[theluckycountry]

I heard about that story and read 3 or 4 lines before closing the web page. I don't give a toss what those narcissistic turds do on set or in their private life, all I care for is watching the movies. By nature actors live in a dream world, they are generally of low intelligence and low morals. They have one ability in life, to convince other people that what they say and do is real as they play out the script.

Ask yourself why you even care about such stories? Are you not just some rubber-necker on the highway gawking at an accident, some old lady peeking between the shades to see what her neighbors are up to? Someone was shot and killed in America *Yawn*

[Newfie]

Lucky,

We don’t have TV and almost never see movies, we do read a lot for entertainment, mostly non-fiction.

Yet movies are important because many folk accept movies are reality, or at least something more than they are, fantasies.

THIs Incident is if more interest to me because Baldwin was a big mouth, holier than thow, critic of the Right and of gun owners especially advocating gun safety training. And he did sarcastic comedy skits. So he set himself up.

I happen to agree with the need for additional gun safety training. But this nit-wits hypocrisy probably made matters worse.

Its like when the Pious Preacher gets caught with his pants down, there is some extra anger because of the hypocrisy.

[ROCKMAN]

Newfie - Just a short comment today. There are still too many conflicting stories and perhaps an outright lie or two to paint an accurate picture. But I'm very familiar with weapons and ammo. If the production company didn't go cheap on the weapons and ammo on the set this accident would not have happened. Even if those in charge of the weapons and ammo were blind.

Again I deliver details when more facts come out. But I think that will take a long time since it appears all the players are "lawering" up.

[Newfie]

Please do share what you learn.

[ROCKMAN]

Newfie - Just a hint as more reports from those involved leak out.

Live round: complete with full powder load in the brass and bullet. A bullet is not what a live round is called. It is only the projectile inserted into brass. Live round: brass + powder + bullet

Blank round: brass + powder + paper wad (instead of bullet). Potentially lethal. Powder charge still puts out a very high pressure wave plus very hot gas charge. Blanks have killed before when discharged close to skull. Blows a portion of skull into brain.

Dummy round: brass + bullet. IOW no powder charge. Typically used when "dry firing" during training. Can eventual damage a weapon if trigger is pulled too many times with no round in weapon.

FWI: the Rock has announced no more blanks or dummy rounds to be used in his movies. Actually no real weapons: just rubber or plastic. Those look exactly like the real thing. Will add muzzel flash with computer tech. Same could have been used in "Rust". Just would have cost more. But an insignificant amount less compared to cost of movie. Probably even less then cost of meals provided to cast for one week.

[Tanada]

Access to Judge's order available at link below quote.

Judge Refuses to Strike Script Supervisor’s Demand for Punitive Damages After Deadly Alec Baldwin Film Set Shooting

A California judge on Thursday decided that a script supervisor once employed on the now-scuttled Western film Rust can press forward with demands for punitive damages after actor Alec Baldwin “discharged a loaded gun towards” the supervisor last year.

Mamie Mitchell, the script supervisor, sued Defendants Rust Movie Productions, LLC, Thomasville Pictures, LLC, and individuals Ryan Smith, Langley Cheney, wrote Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Michael E. Whitaker in an order which dealt only with those limited defendants. Additional defendants, including Baldwin, were also named in Mitchell’s original filings. Celebrity attorney Gloria Allred is the lead lawyer for the plaintiff.

Mitchell’s late November lawsuit alleged (1) assault, (2) intentional infliction of emotional distress, and (3) deliberate infliction of harm. The lawsuit claimed the on-set shooting that took the life of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza left Mitchell with severe physical and mental injuries. It bombastically claimed that “Baldwin chose to play Russian Roulette with a loaded gun without checking it and without having the Armorer do so.” Various defendants later argued that claim was a rhetorical flourish that was wholly inaccurate as to the facts.

The aforementioned named defendants — minus Baldwin — collectively moved to strike Mitchell’s request for punitive damages via a motion that was unique and separate from the attempts at wholesale dismissal filed by the other myriad defendants. However, a judge disagreed with the attempt and kept Mitchell’s “prayer” for such damages alive. Thus, Mitchell’s case will advance through additional litigation hurdles.

The judge referred to Smith, Cheney, and the Rust and Thomasville corporate defendants as the “moving defendants” who filed the instant motion to strike the punitive damages prayer that was at issue in this particular ruling.

“Here, Moving Defendants argue Plaintiff’s allegations concerning their failure to take adequate precautions to prevent the gun discharge are conclusory and fail to rise to the level of ‘vile, base, contemptible, miserable, wretched or loathsome conduct’ to establish despicable conduct on their part,” Judge Whitaker wrote.

Mitchell naturally opposed the defendants’ characterization of her lawsuit as defective. She said she pleaded “intentional acts and/or omissions” that proved the defendants’ “utter disregard for [their] consequences” in a manner sufficient to support a punitive damages award, according to Judge Whitaker’s recap of the litigation.

The judge’s decision was based on the pleadings and was not a final decision on the merits.

“For pleading purposes, the Court finds the first amended complaint alleges facts sufficient to establish despicable conduct carried out by Moving Defendants with a willful and conscious disregard of the rights or safety of others,” Judge Whitaker opined.

The judge noted that Mitchell pointed to “the occurrence of prior safety issues” on set. Those issues placed the defendants “on notice of serious firearms-safety-related problems on the set that endangered the cast and crew,” which the defendants “ignored and resulted in [the defendants] deciding not to search for and/or remove any live ammunition from weapons being used on the set.”

The judge continued as follows, but we’ve omitted the legal citations:

Specifically, Plaintiff alleges, “prior to the incident, guns had been misfired on set, including, without limitation, by [Baldwin] stunt double and a prop master who accidentally shot herself in the foot.” Plaintiff also alleges the ammunition, including the gun discharged by Baldwin had regularly been left unattended throughout the filming prior to the incident, and loaded firearms had been used by crew members for target practice by crew members against safety protocols that Moving Defendants should have, but neglected to, enforce. Finally, Plaintiff alleges Moving Defendants intentionally undertook a low budget and cost-cutting scheme that was known to create unsafe conditions for movie production crews that resulted in Moving Defendants’ failure to ensure basic safety protocols with respect to the hazardous use of firearms.

“Accordingly, the Court finds Plaintiffs allegations in the first amended complaint demonstrate alleged despicable conduct carried out by Moving Defendants with a willful and conscious disregard of the rights or safety of others sufficient to withstand a motion to strike,” the judge concluded in what was in essence a reaffirmation of his previous point.

The judge then ordered the defendants to file an answer to the complaint — generally, a point-by-point affirm-or-deny reply to the numbered allegations levied by the plaintiff — within 20 days.

“We are very pleased that the court denied defendants Rust Movie Productions, Thomasville Pictures, Ryan Smith and Langley Cheney’s motion to strike our client Mamie Mitchell’s lawsuit seeking punitive damages against them,” Allred wrote to Law&Crime in response to a request for comment. “The Court found that the Complaint our client filed sets forth factual allegations which ‘demonstrate alleged despicable conduct carried out by the Moving Defendants with a willful and conscious disregard of the rights or safety of others.’ We look forward to vigorously representing Ms. Mitchell to achieve a just result for her.”

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[Newfie]

This case is illustrative. I know of no normal folk, gun advocates, who support Baldwin or his crowd. Firearms afficinados are generally pretty well versed on safe gun handling and Baldwin's attitude would not have been tolerated within the gun community, outliers aside.

To my mind this was a clear and simple case of man slaughter as a minimum.

Where is the Lefts outrage that this stupid SOAB has not yet been charged?

Baldwin is a prominent person, a person who has sought to influence people, as a highly visible he sets an example for others. Not prosecuting him also shows just how corrupt our legal system has become.

2$ because of inflation and the Android does not offer a cents symbol.

[Tanada]

To my mind this was a clear and simple case of man slaughter as a minimum.

Where is the Lefts outrage that this stupid SOAB has not yet been charged?

Baldwin is a prominent person, a person who has sought to influence people, as a highly visible he sets an example for others. Not prosecuting him also shows just how corrupt our legal system has become.

2$ because of inflation and the Android does not offer a cents symbol.

LOL c