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"A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash"---was it right?

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Oil Crash Movie

Unread postby skyemoor » Wed 21 Mar 2007, 11:23:07

I saw the US premiere of this documentary last night at the Swiss Embassy. My impressions:
    * This is intended for general audiences. There are no long lists of statistics and endless graphs, though some statistical information is shown or mentioned by the interviewees (including Hubbert's 1975 interview).

    * Brief titles are used when displaying credentials for the interviewees, so PhDs, CEO status and the like are absent. This could lead some to not understand the weight of the input by persons like Campbell and Simmons.

    * Convincing shots of abandoned oil fields and the people who had been dependent on them helped to reinforce the idea that oil wells really do exhaust.

    * Realistic estimates about the availability of other sources of energy to replace oil burst the bubbles of many in the audience, including my guest.

I invited a well-known video journalist to join me (who has two V8 SUVs himself) and he was completely moved by the experience; one could see the gears turning. He expressed concern for the welfare of his children and the state of the economy in the near future. I have mentioned some statistics to him in the past, but seeing this footage and hearing from the experts directly, with a carefully woven story, made for a convincing slamdunk.

Producer Gelpke was on-hand to field questions, and while not a scientist or geologist, was quite adept at handling questions. To my question about the peaking of North American natural gas, he said he understood that to be the case and could greatly slow the extraction of oil from Canadian Tar Sands, limit near term hydrogen production, and place the Country at greater risk for foreign energy dependence.

The film will be shown on cable (Sundance was mentioned) on or around April 19th(?). It will be available for wider screenings in May with DVD sales shortly thereafter. I will be purchasing the DVD.
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby MattSavinar » Wed 21 Mar 2007, 23:17:40

skyemoor wrote:I invited a well-known video journalist to join me (who has two V8 SUVs himself) and he was completely moved by the experience; one could see the gears turning. He expressed concern for the welfare of his children and the state of the economy in the near future. I have mentioned some statistics to him in the past, but seeing this footage and hearing from the experts directly, with a carefully woven story, made for a convincing slamdunk..

It will be interesting to see if he emails you with some article touting "insert panacea here" as the solution. My guess is he might simply because to think otherwise might create too much dissonance for him. His brain is likely working hard to delete, deny, or rationalize out of existence what he just saw.
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby skyemoor » Thu 22 Mar 2007, 08:05:58

Back on the subject of this thread, the movie and its effects;
MattSavinar wrote:It will be interesting to see if he emails you with some article touting "insert panacea here" as the solution. My guess is he might simply because to think otherwise might create too much dissonance for him. His brain is likely working hard to delete, deny, or rationalize out of existence what he just saw.

He was able to see through the everyday "gee, isn't this normal?" mindset. Indeed, at one point last year, he even started biking to work until winter set in. This movie was a crucial tipping point for him, and I'll be around to help him resist backsliding.

But for others who might casually see this film and not have someone around to lend moral support and disinformation debunking, you are right; they'll have a moment of insight, guilt, and a search for answers. Then 2 days will go by and they will forget all about it because oil, errr, corn is being turned into ethanol and consequently SUVs should retain their rightful place in our overconsumptive culture, errr, "American Way of Life".

By the way, I don't know if you've had a chance to see the final version, but your segments were effectively focused and to the point. The producer kept inserting them at key intervals throughout the film. One minor point; in future shoots, background clutter (boxes, etc) could distract people's attention away from concentrating on you and what you have to say.
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby Dukat_Reloaded » Sun 01 Apr 2007, 06:51:52

I am currently downloading this movie off http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 01 Apr 2007, 09:59:54

Like dude, where is the download button?
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby some_guy282 » Sun 01 Apr 2007, 11:42:26

vision-master wrote:Like dude, where is the download button?

You have to register with the site. They don't require e-mail activation so I made some BS username with a fake e-mail address to register. It's a torrent file. It took a couple of hours to download for me. Of the three documentaries I've seen (this, End of Suburbia and Crude Impact) I think this one is the best.
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 01 Apr 2007, 13:20:53

No workie. Besides, my browser blocked a cookie https://paypal.com . What's up with that?
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby some_guy282 » Sun 01 Apr 2007, 13:47:02

I dunno. The torrent file is small. Only 28kb. PM me your e-mail address and I can e-mail it to you.
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sun 01 Apr 2007, 14:29:43

some_guy282 wrote:I dunno. The torrent file is small. Only 28kb. PM me your e-mail address and I can e-mail it to you.

I had downloaded that torrent file as well. How to work with it further? I cannot open it, therefore I cannot continue with film download. Maybe some additional software is needed to make it working? Any ideas?
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby some_guy282 » Sun 01 Apr 2007, 15:01:19

Yes. You need torrent software to get it to work. I use BitTorrent. But there are others like Bit Comet, etc....

If you look on Google or download.com you can find plenty.
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby simontay78 » Sun 01 Apr 2007, 19:37:11

EnergyUnlimited wrote:
some_guy282 wrote:I dunno. The torrent file is small. Only 28kb. PM me your e-mail address and I can e-mail it to you.
I had downloaded that torrent file as well. How to work with it further? I cannot open it, therefore I cannot continue with film download. Maybe some additional software is needed to make it working? Any ideas?

you can also use the program "utorrent"
1. download the utorrent file...
2. it will prompt you to use your torrent software
3. the torrent software will download the real file in p2p method.
4. Find files that have lot's of "SEED" instead of Leeches as the more people share the file the faster you can download.
Good luck!
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby simontay78 » Sun 01 Apr 2007, 20:10:06

There are many torrent search page that can find this video!! I recommends www.torrentscan.com

using Mininova i found that file with 44 SEEDS and 139 leechers!! Seems like the interest is growing!
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Mon 02 Apr 2007, 09:44:33

Many thanks some_guy282 and simontay78.
I will download software recommended by you and hopefully I will get it all to work :) .
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Re: A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash

Unread postby Dukat_Reloaded » Mon 02 Apr 2007, 11:56:19

I liked the movie, one thing which was odd was near the end of the movie they were talking about processing ethanol while showing clips of palm oil plantations and palm fruit being processed.
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Re: Oil Crash Movie Review

Unread postby oilcanboyd » Sun 08 Apr 2007, 14:57:48

Just to let everyone know, as of April 4th the movie can be rented at all rogers video outlets in Canada.

BTW, Matt, I liked the "katrina bunker"

As soon as I can purchase one from Rogers, I will be off to "early adopt" our city council on this matter.

Over all, I thought the movie was a good informative well thought out doc to move this problem on the front burner along with Gore's movie. All we need is 4 or 5 dollar CDN /Liter of gas through a hickup in the system and may be an acadamy award in two years.
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Re: Oil Crash Movie Review

Unread postby killJOY » Sun 08 Apr 2007, 15:17:15

I can't believe how long it's taking this film to reach general release.

About the comment:
I don't see this film having much of an effect honestly.
I'm working with a kid now on a short script about peak oil. (He dumped his film major after learning about peak and is trying to become an organic farmer.)

He's worried about a too-doomish film "turning people off" and the necessity of "offering suggestions or hope" at the end. My advice is, if you don't personally see any hope, then why pretend to offer suggestions? Dumb people will always say, "What should we do?"

Neither he nor I will make any money off of this movie. It's simply not going to make a difference in peak awareness or preparedness.

"Then why bother making the movie?" he said.

"Because you want to. What other reason is there?"

I'm hoping to make it a short horror film. Funny, too.

How many films have had the guts to say, "OK. Here's the situation. We have no fucking idea how to fix it. Figure it out by yourselves. By the way, there might be a die-off."
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A Crude Awakening

Unread postby Newsseeker » Sat 21 Apr 2007, 09:12:45

Has anyone seen this film? Is it good? HBow much doomer porn is in it? I know it has Savinar but who else is there?
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Re: A Crude Awakening

Unread postby some_guy282 » Sat 21 Apr 2007, 10:03:36

I've seen it. Personally I think it's the best documentary intro to Peak Oil I've ever seen. Who else is it in? Hmm... Matt Simons, David Goodstein, Campbell, Roscoe Bartlett....other than Matt those are the big ones that I recognized going into the film.
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Re: A Crude Awakening

Unread postby Newsseeker » Sat 21 Apr 2007, 10:03:49

...also is this film better than End of Suburbia?
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Re: A Crude Awakening

Unread postby killJOY » Sat 21 Apr 2007, 10:06:53

The distributors of this film have been absolutely irresponsible in getting it out.

The only place I know to buy it is on Matt Savinar's site.
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