radon1 wrote:You know where it takes you? This is basically an official declaration by your general that killing Ukrainians and Russians is a rewarding act from the US perspective. What should it mean, on a reciprocal basis? Have you lost all senses out there at all, or what.
Yes radon, that was a not a neutral visit from a neutral party in a conflict that the US is not involved in.
That was a visit to an ally, and US gov (supposedly) supports Ukraine's right to exist as a nation and have sovereignty and *has a right to its industrial east* (Obama used those words).
OTOH.. Americans hand out little nato medals,
while the Russians hand out rocket launchers, tanks, guns, ammo, communications jamming, surface to air missiles. And Russian Army backup for when the rebels can't win a fight. (like the airport -- how was that fair, those 400 defenders, they'd fought off every attack for 8 months. Volunteers, mostly, some Ukrainian army. And then Russia side just wipes them all out.
That was a nasty, brutal battle. Are all those cyborg guys we see in these videos just all dead, now? All 400? At the hands of Russian Army?
Well no wonder nobody wants to join the army now -- if we're gonna support these Ukrainians then this is no way to run a war, you can't leave troops stuck out there abandoned on a beachhead just to get rolled over by the Russian Army.
Anyway -- I don't know whose side Obama administration is on lately, all these talks they do in Moscow and concessions to Russia on Assad and following Russia around on middle east policy. Then in Ukraine, all the US can do is hand medals out for soldiers wounded by Russia. (I'm talking about the optics of it, honestly Hodges was just doing something respectful from his perspective -- If we had a real commander in chief then a Hodges could be helping Ukraine to win this war, instead of just Russian generals and Russian paratroopers and Russian Army infantry helping the rebels to win the war)
How about getting them some real HELP, not just medals -- the rebels have RUSSIAN help, so where is the American help for these Ukrainians.
Congress passed a law, $350 million in some lethal aid, but O is waiting out the clock on that -- I guess until the last day, if he enforces the law at all, I guess we'll see.
I don't understand why it's not bigger news the 400 cyborgs were all killed. That's kind of sad there, I watched a lot of videos about those guys, those weren't nazis or anything they were just some good decent brave soldiers. That really sucks, they held that place for 8 months and then to just get wiped out en masse by Russian Army.
Thousands of regular Russian Army troops, rocket launches coming down on them, Donetsk posted there was some trick from the Russian backed rebel side where they collapsed the ceiling down on them.
IF WE'RE GONNA BE HANDING OUT NATO MEDALLIONS AT ALL, then let's start handing out some victory to go along with it.
Give these soldiers a fighting chance, and a little help -- it would be FAIR to do, because the other side has all these weapons coming in from Russia PLUS they've got the backup of the Russian Army. And MAYBE Russian air force strikes soon, too -- will Obama just dither and wait until that happens too, and then we can do a press release about more sanctions and how "outrageous" the new Russian attacks are?