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Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 14:30:57

Within a few decades, according to forecasts used by scientists at Linkoping University, in Sweden, a “peak phosphorus” crunch could represent a serious threat to agriculture as global reserves of high-quality phosphate rock go into terminal decline.

Because supplies of phosphates suitable for mining are so limited, a new geopolitical map may be drawn around the remaining reserves - a dynamic that would give a sudden boost to the global importance of Morocco, which holds 32 per cent of the world's proven reserves.

Beyond Morocco, the world's chief phosphorus reserves for export are concentrated in Western Sahara, South Africa, <b>Jordan, Syria</b> and Russia.

“Quite simply, without phosphorus we cannot produce food."

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<b>Secret contacts to speed up the building of an American military base in Morocco</b>

After the attack on the French tourists in Mauritania, American intelligence had intensive contacts with Moroccan intelligence to speed up the secret ongoing negotiations between the both sides to move their military base from Stuttgart in Germany to an American military base in south Morocco.

The Moroccan side offered a place called “Cap Daraa” in Tanttan province in the Moroccan Sahara, an American intelligence Service delegation and a group of technicians visited the area and took aerial-photographs of the area to determine the exact location of the military base to their final report to the Pentagon.

The Americans preferred a Military base with free access to the sea so they can control the flow of arms to their base, Mauritania refused to host an American military base over the territory.

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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby Cashmere » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 14:41:38

Cid - I love your posts. Keep up the awesome work.

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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby cipi604 » Mon 23 Jun 2008, 16:19:39

I rode few months ago about this problem, now I see that USA is preparing quietly... good to know.
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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby Kylon » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 05:01:44

what we need to do, is stop mining our phosphorous, and start mining theirs.

Morocco would probably love to have all the extra money to come flowing in.

So long as we have large reserves, foreign countries can't threaten us with shortages.

It would make bargaining much easier for the West.
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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby Munqi » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 12:23:06

Completely new to me. Thank you for sharing this.


The bad news just keep on piling up. 8)
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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby mmasters » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 13:08:20

Good one!
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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby btu2012 » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 15:36:56

A little known but very serious problem. Expensive phosphorus and expensive natural gas will contribute to a serious increase in food prices within a 15-20 year timeframe.

Once again it's not just an oil crisis but a general resource crisis plus environmental crisis. As predicted by the Club of Rome over three decades ago.

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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby setag » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 16:10:02

Oh, everyone will be looking for the wonderful phosphorus rock. There is uranium in them there rocks!

The technology to extract uranium from the phosphoric acid in phosphates is developed and Uranium is more lucrative.
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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby bluster2000 » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 23:29:57

Can´t we just piss it up? :oops:

Cid_Yama wrote:Within a few decades, according to forecasts used by scientists at Linkoping University, in Sweden, a “peak phosphorus” crunch could represent a serious threat to agriculture as global reserves of high-quality phosphate rock go into terminal decline.

Because supplies of phosphates suitable for mining are so limited, a new geopolitical map may be drawn around the remaining reserves - a dynamic that would give a sudden boost to the global importance of Morocco, which holds 32 per cent of the world's proven reserves.

Beyond Morocco, the world's chief phosphorus reserves for export are concentrated in Western Sahara, South Africa, <b>Jordan, Syria</b> and Russia.

“Quite simply, without phosphorus we cannot produce food."

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<b>Secret contacts to speed up the building of an American military base in Morocco</b>

After the attack on the French tourists in Mauritania, American intelligence had intensive contacts with Moroccan intelligence to speed up the secret ongoing negotiations between the both sides to move their military base from Stuttgart in Germany to an American military base in south Morocco.

The Moroccan side offered a place called “Cap Daraa” in Tanttan province in the Moroccan Sahara, an American intelligence Service delegation and a group of technicians visited the area and took aerial-photographs of the area to determine the exact location of the military base to their final report to the Pentagon.

The Americans preferred a Military base with free access to the sea so they can control the flow of arms to their base, Mauritania refused to host an American military base over the territory.

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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Sat 28 Jun 2008, 19:59:10

if i was in a Muslim country that had a lot of Phosphorus preserves, i'd be worried.
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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 03:02:17

pedalling_faster wrote:if i was in a Muslim country that had a lot of Phosphorus preserves, i'd be worried.

Perhaps you would pump some radioactive waste into those mines to make them unusable.
Hence you would make invasion by US unlikely.
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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby kublikhan » Fri 18 May 2012, 17:40:28

pstarr wrote:For terrestrial phosphorus to return to the land, to re-enter the biota, there must be a phenomena that is all but dead; the migration of anadromous fish, salmon, herring, shad, etc. back to the land, where their phosphorus is dispersed by bears and eagles for storage in the great trees. Both gone. This is the dispersed general purpose phosphorus, the natural fertilizer in compost etc. that humanity depended on before there were phosphorus mines. Both gone. We have stripped-mined the earth and without lots of energy we will not be able to recover this phosphorus from the oceans.
Couldn't we change our farming/grazing methods to reduce phosphorus runoff? Also, couldn't we harvest the marine biota to get that phosphorus back to land? Extra phosphorus is already causing explosions of algae and jellyfish. Why not put these nasty jellyfish to a more productive purpose? Grind 'em up into fertilizer!

So far, fishermen have been scratching their heads in Japan as to what to do with the jellyfish once they have been scooped-up. So far, they have been made into fertilizer, fed to crabs and sold as salty little novelty snacks!
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Re: Geopolitical map to be redrawn around phosphorus

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 19 May 2012, 00:16:14

The numbers don't work on the jellyfish, too much water content, only the top skin is edible w/ a lot of processing, the rest is 97% water. Impossible to pay for the diesel to run ships for the purpose. Morocco just got lucky. Strange how many previous era power cities are beginning to become central again.
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