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Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby Revi » Wed 20 May 2015, 10:29:51

We just went to see Mad Max, and it was an awesome movie. Totally stripped down to a gigantic death race across the devastated landscape after everything collapses. I was a little discomfited by the fact that they still had thousands of gallons of oil to waste, but then I just let the movie play out. I thought it had undertones of peak oil, and then I read this article which interviewed George Miller, its creator.

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/2015-3 ... -come-true

I think Mad Max is a metaphor for where we are at in our culture right now, at the peak.

We have the fossil fuel worship already with Nascar and other venues, the crazy exploitation of women is happening around us with the Isis crisis, and thousands of people are willing to die for oil right now.

I really think this new Mad Max is about our culture, not a post apocalyptic one.

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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby Revi » Wed 20 May 2015, 10:31:51

Here's the trailer for the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEJnMQG9ev8
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Wed 20 May 2015, 11:40:12

"...really think this new Mad Max is about our culture, not a post apocalyptic one." I can go along with that thought. Remember the front page story about Mad Max and the pic they had of that wild horde driving towards the camera? As I said then: Just squint a little and it's easy to imagine those road warriors flying black ISIS flags.

It still amazes me that so many don't realize that we are in that mad world already. Maybe if they hadn't banned photographing those shiny metal caskets coming through Dover Americans would have a better grasp of the situation. Or maybe just more photos of all those bodies being left behind in the various oil centric war zones in the ME.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby Pops » Wed 20 May 2015, 13:04:05

Revi I saw a review that said radiation, not gasoline, is a bigger factor in this version.

Sounds like the guy has been reading PO.com.

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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby dolanbaker » Wed 20 May 2015, 13:16:16

Mad Max isn't really a peak oil metaphor, but it will be, when most of the remaining oil has gone.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Wed 20 May 2015, 13:19:20

"In this new version the good guys are transporting mothers-milk to the 'Green Place." Interesting: so the goal worth killing for is to deliver fossil fuels to a "green" place? Maybe in the next movie they'll be fighting over a shipment of solar panels going to a Green Place. Naa...just wouldn't be the same listening to the hum of those electrified road warriors running down the road. They might even put silencers on the weapons. Way too quiet...I might fall asleep in the movie theater.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby Lore » Wed 20 May 2015, 13:21:53

pstarr wrote:The original Road Warrior was a battle for for . . . oil. It also made sense: the hippie-good-guys/gals refined a little oil. The bad guys used a little oil (in a few crummy beaters) to steal the good guys big oil tanker. Oil was precious: who doesn't remember Mel Gibson capturing a few lousy ounces of gasoline in his a rusty hubcap.

In this new version the good guys are transporting mothers-milk to the 'Green Place.' And the bad guys have way too much oil. It looks like monster truck night at the local dirt track. What is that about?


I have to agree, my wife and I went to see it and we were both shaking our heads when we left. Another Transformer movie, lots of stylized non-stop effects, but zero plot and acting.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Wed 20 May 2015, 13:39:05

Here's an even less gentle review of the movie:

The New Mad Max Film Is So Feminist My Scrotum Killed Itself

Guess what’s got my large intestine in a septic knot today, MANmerica? The extreme pussification and dude-slicing feminism that has taken Mad Max: Fury Road—a movie that should have been about two greased up male torsos in a UFC fight on the back of on a loud motorcycle—into a crotch-kicking misandrist fantasy starring some dyke named Furiosa who doesn’t even show us her tits. THE BETAFICATION OF AMERICA CONTINUES. MAD MAX HAS BEEN RUINED.

Much like a first date with my ex-wife Diane, the Mad Max: Fury Road trailer tricked me into believing that it would be one thing, when in fact it was something else entirely. Diane indicated to me that she would laugh at most of my jokes (Family Guy quotes repurposed for everyday situations. Giggidy!) and tell me that my dick was big, like a porn dick. MMFR led me to believe that the fire tornado in the trailer and the man’s name in the title meant that I wouldn’t have to listen to a woman talk. Wrong, and wrong. Charlize Theron talks SIGNIFICANTLY more than Tom Hardy. She’s in the middle of the poster. She fights. None of the hot sex slaves take their shirts off. THIS MOVIE IS MORE FEMINAZI THAN THE SHE-STAFFEL.

Here are more egregious omissions in this bloody tampon of she-nima:
·beefy, leather-wearing guys who are mortal enemies don’t get so close to each other that they almost kiss
·there is no follow-up scene to the almost-kissing scene where the main character looks at gratuitous female nudity to remind the viewer (me) that this movie isn’t about some gay shit; it’s about DUDES
·the fire tornado doesn’t burn my ex-wife Diane to death while her faggot boyfriend cries
·Tom Hardy doesn’t make soulful eye contact with the camera as he takes a long, lusty, and most importantly MAN ONLY shower
·nobody’s dick is a literal gun

I THINK ABOUT MEL GIBSON’S TORTURED BLANK 1979 EYES WHEN I HUMP MY ARMCHAIR! MAKE ME A SANDWICH! Anybody who has seen the original three Mad Max movies knows that women exist for one of four man-created reasons: to be raped so Mel Gibson can get mad, to be sexual partners with a guy trying to kill Mel Gibson, to be murdered so Mel Gibson can get mad, and to force Mel Gibson to fight in the Thunderdome. They have character names like “Nurse,” “Nightrider’s Girl,” “The Captain’s Girl,” and “Victim.” ALL OTHER REASONS ARE A PERSONAL AFFRONT TO ME AND THE SACRED LEGACY OF MAD MAX, WHOSE HAUNTED EMOTIONAL EMPTINESS I RELATE TO ON A VERY DEEP LEVEL DESPITE THE FACT THAT MAD MAX WATCHED HIS FAMILY DIE IN A HOPELESS FUTURE HELLSCAPE AND THE WORST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO ME WAS THAT SOME GIRLS SAID THEY DIDN’T WANT TO BUMP UGLIES BACK WHEN I WAS A TEEN.

GEORGE MILLER BASICALLY KILLED MY DOG IN FRONT OF ME.
TOM HARDY HAS BETRAYED ME.
CHARLIZE THERON HAS MENSTRUATED ALL OVER MY MASCULINITY.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby jesus_of_suburbia » Wed 20 May 2015, 15:09:25

I have to agree, my wife and I went to see it and we were both shaking our heads when we left. Another Transformer movie, lots of stylized non-stop effects, but zero plot and acting.

It's a summer blockbuster produced to rake in cash. What were you expecting? An art-house film.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 20 May 2015, 15:33:31

Revi wrote:I think Mad Max is a metaphor for where we are at in our culture right now, at the peak...... the crazy exploitation of women is happening around us with the Isis crisis

What do you think?


I think the crazy exploitation of women by ISiS reflects the teachings of the Koran and the ancient and magnificent ME Islamic cultures------which is not the same as western culture like that shared by most folks in the EU and USA.

As far as the movie---the whole premise is that Mad Max is occurring in a post-apocalyptic world some time after the collapse of the global economy and society, so of course it can seen as a science fiction style metaphor for the post-peak world.

But a more interesting question is ---- when will we reach peak "Mad Max"? The original mad Max pics were low budget----but each subsequent film is bigger and more expensive and more over-the-top. Clearly we haven't reached peak Mad Max yet....

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Each film is bigger then the last---remember when "Mad Max" started the film was just about a guy with a dog and a motorcycle and look at Mad Max now-----so when will we reach peak "Mad Max"?
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby Lore » Wed 20 May 2015, 16:53:26

I heard there is an agreement to produce 3 more films on the franchise. I pretty much peaked with this one.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Wed 20 May 2015, 17:24:09

Lore wrote:I heard there is an agreement to produce 3 more films on the franchise. I pretty much peaked with this one.


THREE MORE MAD MAX FILMS??!!?!?!?

Hmmm....

My guess for the sequels is:

#1 Mad Max: Waterworld in which Mad Max battles sea-going evil doers featuring a long chase scene filmed in the Great Barrier Reef with fighters zooming around in sooped-up speedboats etc.

#2 "Mad Max in Outer Space" in which Mad Max finds an old rocket base, blasts into outer space and battles space-going evil doers in a long chase scene involving scooped-up space shuttles, flying saucers, laser weapons, etc.

#3---"Mad Max vs. Godzilla" in which Mad Max returns to his roots in the desert and battles Godzilla to save a peaceful Australian aborigine village hidden in at an oasis in the Australian outback.


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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby dolanbaker » Thu 21 May 2015, 03:11:09

More like "Mad Max Keiser" ;)
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 21 May 2015, 09:30:00

All I know is I laughed out loud every time I saw the guy in bright red playing guitar, dangling in front of the truck...

http://www.businessinsider.com/mad-max- ... man-2015-5

But seriously, I don't know why anyone has a problem with Charlize's character. She probably got to her station in that society by being tough and smart. And, she had the memory of a better life which spurred her on to helping the breeders escape theirs.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby Pops » Thu 21 May 2015, 10:31:58

WildRose wrote:But seriously, I don't know why anyone has a problem with Charlize's character.

Old white guys used to run the world.
We miss it.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 21 May 2015, 11:49:16

Pops wrote:
WildRose wrote:But seriously, I don't know why anyone has a problem with Charlize's character.

Old white guys used to run the world.
We miss it.


Yeah, okay...some old guys don't seem to mind, though, like my hubby - I think he likes the strong ladies. :)
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby ennui2 » Thu 21 May 2015, 15:17:38

The critics are almost universally positive on this, and yet there does seem to be some mega-backlash over the rambolina aspect. I don't know why, considering that tough female heroes have been popular as far back as Sigourney Weaver in Aliens.
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Re: Mad Max as a metaphor for the peak?

Unread postby drgoodword » Sat 23 May 2015, 01:01:37

@ROCKMAN

Just an fyi, that "less gentle review" is a tongue-buried-very-deeply-in-cheek parody review from feminist site Jezebel.com.
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