[evgeny]

DAVIS: Double-talk with Russia U.S. should reverse diplomatic course
According to the consensus of Western media, the Russian government seeks to weaken the West, desires to resurrect a new version of the Soviet Union, and tramples on the freedoms of its own people. By contrast, the United States stands for freedom, peace and prosperity for all nations. Regarding the situation in Georgia, the Russians are the aggressors — much like Hitler when he took Czechoslovakia in 1938 — and we simply seek to defend the weak. The only problem with this view of things is that it grossly misrepresents the complicated truth. If this distortion is not quickly rectified, our own actions could unwittingly contribute to a grave crisis — if not war — between the United States and Russia.

By perpetuating the myth that every action taken by the Russian Federation is driven by an irrational lust for power and antagonism toward the United States, while all our actions are right, just, and reasonable, we work against our own self interest. The unpleasant fact of the matter is that American foreign policy and diplomacy over the past two decades has contributed to the trouble we find ourselves in today, and if not reversed quickly — and I mean reversed, not simply altered — the United States may one day find itself facing the possibility of being involved in a major war; a war that should never be fought.

Since the West's condemnation of Russian actions in Georgia, Moscow has threatened Poland over the latter's decision to host missile interceptors on their soil, has threatened Ukraine against joining NATO, has promised to give sophisticated anti-air missile defense capabilities to Iran, has agreed to military cooperation and sales to Venezuela, and openly discussed the possibility of using Cuba as a refueling stop for its long range bombers. No American would dispute that these things run counter to American national interests. But when we protest to Moscow our complaints fall on deaf ears. We have lost the ability to influence Russian policies, partially as a result of our own double standards.

We argue that Russia ought not sell weapons abroad, but we are the world's leader of such sales; we tell Russia they should not do business with Iran while we provide military advisors to Georgia; we tell Russia under no circumstances can they have any military presence in Cuba, but we dismissively tell Russia they have nothing to say about our expanding a military alliance to their very borders. Any rational person, who was neither Russian nor American, would view this situation as a farcical double standard. And yet the bulk of American foreign affairs pundits and former governmental officials defend these positions as being perfectly reasonable.

The tragedy of the situation is that such actions are viewed as imperialistic by much of the rest of the world, and after decades of this behavior, has resulted in the loss of American influence abroad, even among our friends and allies, as our word is no longer trusted. It is of critical importance to the future health and benefit of the United States that we reverse this situation immediately.

Associated Press Russian soldiers crowd atop an armored vehicle as they leave their positions heading toward Georgia's breakaway province of Abkhazia. Hundreds of Russian forces withdrew from positions across western Georgia on Saturday.

Had we not diplomatically bludgeoned Russia into submission on virtually every important issue over the nearly two decades since the dissolution of the USSR, Russia would almost certainly now be more willing to work with us internationally on matters of mutual national interest. If carried too far, this deteriorating relationship - where politicians from both countries condemn the actions of the other as immoral and unjust - could one day result in a miscalculation involving a red line; such miscalculations have resulted in unintended war many times throughout history. I can say without reservation that a war between the United States and Russia would have no winners; all would lose and potentially hundreds of thousands (or more) could be killed.

For the benefit of the United States, for our ability to influence the actions of our friends and competitors throughout the world on matters of real significance, and to give our people the best chance of living in a world of peace, American foreign policy and diplomacy must immediately change course and begin to treat others with genuine respect, recognize others have legitimate security interests and cease this counter productive penchant for double standards. Our children will forever condemn us if our hubris were to result in a war that should never have been fought, requiring them to spend the rest of their lives trying to rebuild what our foolish pride destroyed.

Army Maj. Daniel L. Davis, a cavalry officer, fought in Desert Storm and served in Afghanistan. link

[evgeny]

member of the Council on Foreign Policy, scholar and political scientist Steven Cohen, lamented "Izvestiya":
- The situation is deplorable. Unfortunately, the official position and the Council and the United States as a whole - NATO must come to Ukraine and Georgia. And it has another conflict. U.S. wants relations with Russia, which will be based on their representation and their interests. Saakashvili - a fully American project. And for me it is quite clear: the war in South Ossetia - a response to the threats emanating from the policy. This is a war between Russia and America, which had violated its promises. And the biggest problem in our relationship - that the U.S. has no opposition on the issue of expanding NATO eastward. This is a terrible mistake.

According to Cohen, his view is of "no more than four people in the whole Council."
- U.S. is not ready to abandon the expansion of the alliance - even at the expense of their own interests - lamenting scientist.

When Will the People in America wake up? The idiots in the White House is screwed our country.

[evgeny]

Sarah Peylin victory in Iraq

Alaska Governor Sarah Peylin in an interview with CBS telekanalau tried to justify increasing American troops in Afghanistan. As an argument it has that same line has helped Washington win in Iraq. "

News of the sincere faith, the Republican candidate for vice president in the victory of American troops there and then overflew the local media. This was not the first unsuccessful interview Pelin, which did not fail to write a publication Washington Post. The newspaper notes that Peylin allowed such a serious lapse in the third interview after only a month after the agreed to naparnitsey Senator John McCain in the elections.

Such statements beginning to affect the ratings candidate for the vice-presidents. The survey public opinion, conducted this week by order of NBC and Wall Street Journal, showed that 57% of Americans believe Sarah Peylin illiterate in the field of foreign relations. Most of the respondents would not risk to power in the hands of Rights, which has no expertise in the area of defense policy.

[evgeny]

New version

Hey, isn't that the pot lid that VC guy was holding his guts in with in Apocalypse Now?

No, This is Fedor Emelianenko the best MMA fighter in the world. His nick name "The Last Emperor." Search Google (His nick name Last emperor) or (Fedor Emelianenko).

[Nickel]

New version

Hey, isn't that the pot lid that VC guy was holding his guts in with in Apocalypse Now?

No, This is Fedor Emelianenko the best MMA fighter in the world.

Okay, but that's still the pot lid from Apocalypse Now.

[evgeny]

New version

Hey, isn't that the pot lid that VC guy was holding his guts in with in Apocalypse Now?

No, This is Fedor Emelianenko the best MMA fighter in the world.

Okay, but that's still the pot lid from Apocalypse Now.

You can watch some video action here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7QclQuq1Rs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i0iZcLIrTQ&feature=related


Fedor only loss in MMA (illegal elbow)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TBNzO8521I&feature=related

Last Fedor fight : Fedor defeats Sylvia(former 2 times UFC champion) in 36 sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Z8Jw6ySP4&feature=related

[evgeny]

The US has no missile shield.


well they do .....the THADD system is up , the sea based mid course based on Aegis is up and running . fort greenley and vandenberg are operationnal ,there is no particular reasons to shoot with kinetic , a quite simple retrofitting of nuclear warheads would improve interception chances by a factor of thousands , stripping bare the decoys ,the X band radars of Thule , Varno and Flyingdale provide a pretty good trajectory calculation for any missile intercept
already the Russians strategic bombers and cruise missiles have pretty much zilch prospect , don't forget than a first strike would eliminate 90% of the Russian weapons on stand by , leaving the remains to overcome misfire and thoroughly messed up targetting programs no more than a third and often less of the strategic submarine force is at sea , even for them they might find the U.S. hunter killers too much to handle

This outline is typical of the various scenarios studied by both sides during nearly fifty years , little warning , surprise give an overwhelming advantage to the attack , that's why there were so many nukes , to guaranty the possibility of a devastating response no matter what .
The reduction in delivery vehicles was a budgetary consideration not a military one , the errection of an anti missile shield would , for an U.S. attack , be equivalent to having several hundreds of missiles more , that's why the Russians are mad at the U.S. anti missiles plan in eastern Europe and of the Bush administration withdrawing of the anti ballistic treaty


The chance of Russia striking the U.S. is ludicrous , they just don't have the nuclear muscle to make a devastating first trike it would take all their assets to be ready at the same time , in secret , which is impossible .
As for China they have barely 200 nukes and are barely a nuclear power , though are improving their missiles branch pretty fast

the Pentagon is looking at the mother of all budget cut , it probably never , short of WW3 , have so much money to spend ,
the present administration has no scruples and no reputation to protect .

If you think this is a crazy nightmare , wake me up when Palin is sworn in

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Only one country in the world can annihilate the United States: Russia.

Russia has 5,669 active nuclear warheads and 9,300 in reserve or 15,000 total. Of these, 3,339 are strategic nuclear weapons that can do enormous damage to widespread areas of the American homeland and kill millions of people. Of these, 1,800 nuclear bombs are mounted on Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles against which there is no defense. Russia can destroy the United States of America and much of its population.

Why does this basic fact elude most discussions of U.S./Russia relations? Should this not be a major, even the first consideration?

Of course, the U.S. has 5,163 active nuclear warheads and 4,775 in reserve and can strike back. This basic fact of mutual assured destruction had much to do with keeping the Cold War from becoming hot. But we now know there were some close calls. When tempers run hot, people do foolish things. No one really wanted World War I either but it ended up decimating a whole generation of Europeans anyway and provided the grievances for a repeat in World War II. The U.S. has the missiles to threaten but it cannot do anything to stop Russian ones once launched.

There is simply no comparison to the potential damage from a ragtag army of terrorists and what Russia could do to the U.S. The former can blow up a few buildings and kill a few thousand. Russia could kill tens or hundreds of millions of Americans. The relative dangers are very different and demand different policies.

[Maddog78]

Fedor is one helluva MMA fighter, no arguement there.

[Pretorian]

Fedor is one helluva MMA fighter, no arguement there.

Well if a Ukrainian dude is listed as one of the Russia's top assets against NATO military, that pretty much sums it up

[Maddog78]

Town of birth: Luhansk, Ukraine

Oh yeah.
He is Russian now though.
Wonder when he made the switch?

[Pretorian]

Town of birth: Luhansk, Ukraine

Oh yeah.
He is Russian now though.
Wonder when he made the switch?

town of birth has little or nothing to do with it; he has a Ukrainian name. Thats very unlikely that someone with a Ukrainian second name born in Ukraine is not Ukrainian; he may love Russia and hate his kind with deepest passion, he is still Ukrainian whether he likes it or not. And nothing will ever change that.

[evgeny]

Town of birth: Luhansk, Ukraine

Oh yeah.
He is Russian now though.
Wonder when he made the switch?

town of birth has little or nothing to do with it; he has a Ukrainian name. Thats very unlikely that someone with a Ukrainian second name born in Ukraine is not Ukrainian; he may love Russia and hate his kind with deepest passion, he is still Ukrainian whether he likes it or not. And nothing will ever change that.

And what difference between russian and ukrainian people?

[evgeny]

Fedor is one helluva MMA fighter, no arguement there.

Well if a Ukrainian dude is listed as one of the Russia's top assets against NATO military, that pretty much sums it up

In this war gonna be only 2 country(Russia and USA) not a NATO military.
Are you really think , they are ready commit a suicide for a USA?

[Nickel]

Fedor is one helluva MMA fighter, no arguement there.

Well if a Ukrainian dude is listed as one of the Russia's top assets against NATO military, that pretty much sums it up

In this war gonna be only 2 country(Russia and USA) not a NATO military.
Are you really think , they are ready commit a suicide for a USA?

As much as I've always thought it was a mistake for us to encroach on Russia's sphere of influence, I also think it would be a mistake for the Russians to underestimate the will of the governments and even the general populace of NATO nations to man the lines if it comes to that. I don't say with any great relish or enthusiasm, but with the sense of doing what has to be done -- supporting the general welfare and security of the allied nations -- in the fervent hopes that in so doing, our resolve itself will prevent war. Unlikely, but what else do we have?

I personally do not want to fight Russia over pretty much anything short of an actual invasion of Canada or our traditional allies. I certainly have no desire to fight Russia just to show them "who's the boss" where Georgia, a former SSR, is concerned. But I don't call those shots, and Russia needs to be just as careful as we need to be not to underestimate the needs, the will, and the capacities of the other.

[RdSnt]

I quite agree Nickel.
However, I trust Putin to manage his side of the realpolitik board much better that the Bush league.

Fedor is one helluva MMA fighter, no arguement there.

Well if a Ukrainian dude is listed as one of the Russia's top assets against NATO military, that pretty much sums it up

In this war gonna be only 2 country(Russia and USA) not a NATO military.
Are you really think , they are ready commit a suicide for a USA?

As much as I've always thought it was a mistake for us to encroach on Russia's sphere of influence, I also think it would be a mistake for the Russians to underestimate the will of the governments and even the general populace of NATO nations to man the lines if it comes to that. I don't say with any great relish or enthusiasm, but with the sense of doing what has to be done -- supporting the general welfare and security of the allied nations -- in the fervent hopes that in so doing, our resolve itself will prevent war. Unlikely, but what else do we have?

I personally do not want to fight Russia over pretty much anything short of an actual invasion of Canada or our traditional allies. I certainly have no desire to fight Russia just to show them "who's the boss" where Georgia, a former SSR, is concerned. But I don't call those shots, and Russia needs to be just as careful as we need to be not to underestimate the needs, the will, and the capacities of the other.

[evgeny]

Since there is a quote about Russia I let myself to give a qoute of Mark Twain about America:

It was wonderful to find America, but it would have been more wonderful to miss it.


Russian don't looking for battle, but we never forgive insults, meanness and lie.

[evgeny]

Fedor is one helluva MMA fighter, no arguement there.

Well if a Ukrainian dude is listed as one of the Russia's top assets against NATO military, that pretty much sums it up

In this war gonna be only 2 country(Russia and USA) not a NATO military.
Are you really think , they are ready commit a suicide for a USA?

As much as I've always thought it was a mistake for us to encroach on Russia's sphere of influence, I also think it would be a mistake for the Russians to underestimate the will of the governments and even the general populace of NATO nations to man the lines if it comes to that. I don't say with any great relish or enthusiasm, but with the sense of doing what has to be done -- supporting the general welfare and security of the allied nations -- in the fervent hopes that in so doing, our resolve itself will prevent war. Unlikely, but what else do we have?

I personally do not want to fight Russia over pretty much anything short of an actual invasion of Canada or our traditional allies. I certainly have no desire to fight Russia just to show them "who's the boss" where Georgia, a former SSR, is concerned. But I don't call those shots, and Russia needs to be just as careful as we need to be not to underestimate the needs, the will, and the capacities of the other.

A blood conflict between the US and Russia carries the unique potential to kill every human being in the US and Russia, within a few days.

Nothing else approaches the gravity of this possible combat, not Iraq, not Afghanistan, not global warming, not Medicare Part D, not drilling in ANWR. In the run up to any war, it has been infallibly proved, that no one should rely on a paper capability, words, not reality. It is lethally dangerous to sign a North Atlantic Treaty, requiring all to fight if one is attacked, then learn that others were just kidding, when the blood flows.

[evgeny]

A shattering moment in America's fall from power

The global financial crisis will see the US falter in the same way the Soviet Union did when the Berlin Wall came down. The era of American dominance is over



http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/28/usforeignpolicy.useconomicgrowth

[evgeny]

Fedor is one helluva MMA fighter, no arguement there.

Hear that of Fedor told his colleagues:

- Bee Jay Penn, twice champion UFC: «The Fedor my favorite».

- Kvinton Jackson, a former champion in the UFC polutyazhelom weight: «Fedor the best fighter, regardless of weight category. Only Bee Jay Penn can be compared with him ».

- Randy Kutyur, quintuple champion in the UFC Heavyweight Title: «The best fighter in the world heavy weight, probably Fedor».

- Mauricio Segun Hua, winner of Grand Prix Pride: «The Fedor best. If his fight with Randy Kutyur place, I would put on Fedora. Randy a great fighter, but I choose Emelianenko »

- Kevin Rendelmen, former champion UFC: «S Fyodor does not compare anybody»

- Rodrigo Nogueira, UFC champion and a former champion in PRIDE Heavyweight Title: «To win Fedora, you need first to kill him. Then again, to kill. And then try to send him on the floor ».

-Tim Silvia a former 2 times UFC Heavyweight champion:<< Fedor-not human >>.

[sparky]

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To evgeny

Priviet , your numbers are formally correct but miss the point .

- The Russian nuclear deterrent is much weaker than the paper strength would indicate , maintenance is a big problem ,the mainstay of the nuclear forces is the missiles , there is few spares so the stored ones will remain in their cocoons while the U.S. arsenal is in top condition.
I do not consider a Russian first strike but an U.S. one , the rolling propaganda barrage in the western media has been relentless ,planned and was started by Dick Cheyney "Riga speech "
It indicate an active campaign of brain washing to paint Russia as a danger , it's the first and necessary step in justifying a pre-emptive strike against an imminent aggression

there is an old Marxist principle well drilled into any Russian officer older than forty that
" as capitalism is devoured by it's own crisis , it lashes out with further military adventurism "

Putin certainly doesn't seems to ignore it , there is a big effort underway to repair the Russian deterrence .
the START disarmament are due to expire in December 2009 , in November there will be some bilateral talks on an extension or a new treaty , so far the Americans are stalling , we'll see .

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