eastbay wrote:No mention of this from al Jazeera (English), Reuters, CNN, or BBC.
... still waiting.
Turkish forces do not cross Iraqi border; military action still continues
SIRNAK - The Turkish army has not crossed the border of Iraq, however, the military offensive in the region, including bombardment of PKK bases just across the border, still continues.
Aaron wrote:Iraq is a quagmire (giggity giggity) because the US has to "sell" it's actions at home.
Our emerging Gynocracy can't tolerate anything worse than a hangnail, so it becomes impossible to secure a country which has been bathed in blood for decades.
Our politically correct "humanism" is seen as weakness in this part of the world, and is directly responsible for the difficulties the US has experienced in securing the country.
Want to see an end to violence in Iraq?
Send the Gurkhas in to kick some ass, & all this resistance will evaporate overnight. Because those boys don't mess around. No "take a knee" platitudes or ethnic diversity will bind these warriors.
Gurkhas - When you absolutely, positively have to kill every living thing within sight.
Fighting any kind of conflict bound by mom's apron strings is a sure formula for failure.
Way to go security moms...
You rock!
threadbear wrote:Aaron wrote:Iraq is a quagmire (giggity giggity) because the US has to "sell" it's actions at home.
Our emerging Gynocracy can't tolerate anything worse than a hangnail, so it becomes impossible to secure a country which has been bathed in blood for decades.
Our politically correct "humanism" is seen as weakness in this part of the world, and is directly responsible for the difficulties the US has experienced in securing the country.
Want to see an end to violence in Iraq?
Send the Gurkhas in to kick some ass, & all this resistance will evaporate overnight. Because those boys don't mess around. No "take a knee" platitudes or ethnic diversity will bind these warriors.
Gurkhas - When you absolutely, positively have to kill every living thing within sight.
Fighting any kind of conflict bound by mom's apron strings is a sure formula for failure.
Way to go security moms...
You rock!
The "rules of engagement" have been broken several times, as far as we know. Journalists aren't allowed open access to, or are afraid to enter battle zones. Kids have been ass raped at prisons like Abu Graib, photographed and then sent back to their villages, blackmailed into informing on their friends and families.
Military operations are often outsourced now, to corporate security which provides yet another layer of separation between the military's policing acts and accountability for them.
Bushco is accomplishing exactly what it set out to do--apply the Salvadoran solution to Iraq, but go even further and use the clusterfu** as an excuse to occupy for decades and expand into other countries in the Middle East, if need be.
Aaron wrote:
Agreed
But the Turks won't quibble with an Iraqi "pound you in the ass" prison.
Summary execution right on the spot is more their style.
These people have been treated like animals for decades... generations, and they will not respond to western nice/nice values... except with violence & resistance.
So yeah I suppose it is a perfect way to remain in theater.
Madpaddy wrote:BREAKING NEWS: TURKEY INVADES IRAQ
eXpat wrote:Today is Wednesday and we have already the Cyclone Gonu and a Turkish invasion to Iraq!, WTF! what's gonna happen by Friday! This is THE popcorn week...
do we at PeakOil.com see into the future or is there some serious delay going on with oil prices?
Aaron wrote:threadbear wrote:Aaron wrote:Iraq is a quagmire (giggity giggity) because the US has to "sell" it's actions at home.
Our emerging Gynocracy can't tolerate anything worse than a hangnail, so it becomes impossible to secure a country which has been bathed in blood for decades.
Our politically correct "humanism" is seen as weakness in this part of the world, and is directly responsible for the difficulties the US has experienced in securing the country.
Want to see an end to violence in Iraq?
Send the Gurkhas in to kick some ass, & all this resistance will evaporate overnight. Because those boys don't mess around. No "take a knee" platitudes or ethnic diversity will bind these warriors.
Gurkhas - When you absolutely, positively have to kill every living thing within sight.
Fighting any kind of conflict bound by mom's apron strings is a sure formula for failure.
Way to go security moms...
You rock!
The "rules of engagement" have been broken several times, as far as we know. Journalists aren't allowed open access to, or are afraid to enter battle zones. Kids have been ass raped at prisons like Abu Graib, photographed and then sent back to their villages, blackmailed into informing on their friends and families.
Military operations are often outsourced now, to corporate security which provides yet another layer of separation between the military's policing acts and accountability for them.
Bushco is accomplishing exactly what it set out to do--apply the Salvadoran solution to Iraq, but go even further and use the clusterfu** as an excuse to occupy for decades and expand into other countries in the Middle East, if need be.
Agreed
But the Turks won't quibble with an Iraqi "pound you in the ass" prison.
Summary execution right on the spot is more their style.
These people have been treated like animals for decades... generations, and they will not respond to western nice/nice values... except with violence & resistance.
So yeah I suppose it is a perfect way to remain in theater.
Fierce battles rage Thursday between the Turkish army and Kurdish PKK rebels on both sides of Turkish-Iraqi border. A Turkish Black Hawk shot down over Iraq
Heavy casualties are reported on both sides. Turkish tanks have also been hit. The PKK Kurdish Workers Party turns out to have been ready for the major Turkish operation, well-armed with anti-tank and shoulder-borne missiles for shooting down Turkish warplanes and helicopters. Despite Ankara’s blackout on the scale of operation against the Kurdish rebels on both sides of the border and the scope of the Turkish incursion of Iraq, DEBKAfile’s military sources report the situation as of Thursday, June 7:
PKK bands, who stole earlier into southeastern Turkey from Iraq and locally, are hitting Turkish concentrations behind the lines and impeding their thrust into Iraqi Kurdistan to destroy rebel hideouts. The Turkish army is therefore fighting on two fronts: in the southeastern Turkish Gabar, Cudi and Bakok mountains and River Cehennem, as well as in northern Iraq.
An expert on Turkey at the Washington Institute for Near East policy, Soner Cagaptay, is quoted by the New York Sun as estimating there are now 250,000 soldiers massed at the Qandil mountain range on the border with northern Iraq, including heavy artillery and tanks. An Iraqi official cited 100,000. DEBKAfile’s military experts estimate 80-90,000.
The Turkish news agency Cehan reported Wednesday that three F-16 Falcon fighter bombers had carried out bombing raids on positions of the PKK in northern Iraq. Artillery deployed at the border with Iraq had fired at “pinpointed targets.”
Aaron, it's not an excess of estrogen that got us into our present quagmire. It was an excess of testosterone on the part of your home state's most famous son. If you want him back, fine, otherwise be careful what you wish for, it might come home to roost in your back yard some day.
Aaron wrote:Don't be deceived by believing the spin doctors... this silver-spoon EastCoaster posing as a Texan.
Sabibaby wrote:and even with a brief spike of $66+ today not much response from the market.
Oil near 9-month high above $71 on Turkey Iraq raid - LONDON (Reuters) - Oil prices steadied at $71 a barrel on Thursday, near a nine-month high, after a raid by Turkish troops into northern Iraq revived worries over exports from the Middle East, which pumps a quarter of the world's oil.
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