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Hope my reply doesn't upset people worried about refineries. I'll be brief. See this from Helen Disler in Australia:
Farmers Are Becoming More Interested In Changing Their Methods
Listen as Alan Broughton introduces his book:
"Sustainable Agriculture V Corporate Greed"
"It's not just in the realm of consumers and councils and all that, that these changes are starting to take place in agriculture.It's happening with farmers too. There's a rapidly growing movement I think of farmers who are becoming more interested in changing their methods, because the old methods cost a lot, and they basically don't work anymore, for a lot of people".
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Half to most farmers are losing money. They are being forced to look at purchased inputs. Gabe Brown says that he has to buy his own ball caps, because the salesmen no longer come around.
Change might happen faster than we think.
Don Stewart