[dissident]

The clowns in the kangaroo Kiev Rada are spontaneously generating renaissance art.

[SeaGypsy]

Brilliant Dissident! So true...

[Cid_Yama]

Looks like a Norman Rockwell painting.

[Donetsk]

Donbass mineral resources

gold

There have been reports Ukraine is going to start gold mining. Experts estimate Ukraine’s gold resources at 400 tons in the Carpathian Mountains and 500 tons in the Donbass region. Some gold is also believed to be in the Crimea and Dnepropetrovsk regions.

coal

Donetsk coal basin, one of the largest coal deposits in Europe

diamonds

In the North of Azov massif kimberlitic pipes with small fragments of diamond crystals identified.

oil and gas

reserves of 1200 million m3, 15 gas-bearing structures found with probable reserves of 30 billion m3. 118 billion m3 of methane

And a treasure trove of other minerals. Here's a couple links, translations not great.

link

link

Also, huge untapped deep water reserves

And rare earth elements

Also the largest concentration of industrial production in Europe.

Donbass mineral resources

gold

There have been reports Ukraine is going to start gold mining. Experts estimate Ukraine’s gold resources at 400 tons in the Carpathian Mountains and 500 tons in the Donbass region. Some gold is also believed to be in the Crimea and Dnepropetrovsk regions.

coal

Donetsk coal basin, one of the largest coal deposits in Europe

diamonds

In the North of Azov massif kimberlitic pipes with small fragments of diamond crystals identified.

oil and gas

reserves of 1200 million m3, 15 gas-bearing structures found with probable reserves of 30 billion m3. 118 billion m3 of methane

And a treasure trove of other minerals. Here's a couple links, translations not great.

link

link

Also, huge untapped deep water reserves

And rare earth elements

Also the largest concentration of industrial production in Europe.

As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about. Diamonds&gold? Really?
These reports are 30-35 years old. If Soviet Union, with all of it's love for false grandeur, economic headlessness and millions of slaves did not even TRY to develop any of this, you think anyone else will?

There is no oil and gas, in amounts that you are mentioning, is laughable.

Coal has been a drain since 1970s at the very least. My father worked these mines all his life. These mines are up to 1200 meters deep. Bloody tropics down there, 365/24/7. How much do you think it costs to dig coal down there? Aside of cash costs, each million of tons comes with 2-3 cadavers and a few dozen invalids.
The only profitable way to dig coal, modern very tiny digs , is extremely low-yield and extremely dangerous ( 20-30+ cadavers per million of tons), thus currently illegal. Well, there are a few profitable "proper " mines, but all of them were bought for a few nickels by Donetsk oligarch Renat Akhmetov ( the guy who made the war in Donetsk possible, and basically started all this trouble , with FSB's help of course, in hopes for more power through federalisation)

One of the battalions of the so called "DNR", "Vostok" is headed by his security chief. Allegedly, he funds this battalion and personnel's main purpose is to look after his things ( which they do ) while he is hiding in Kiev.

Soils are a bit worse than Ukraine's average, and definitely not better than,say, Rostov region
Water ? Never heard about any meaningful water reserves, but I have little doubts that USSR had spent 10-15 years for no good reason, digging channels to supply Donetsk region with Dnieper's water.

[AgentR11]

And yet you guys are willing to destroy your hopes of a Western European life, and suffer an unending series of defeats in order to keep Crimea and Donbas within Ukraine. If you are EU material, then you must believe its economic value is worth the catastrophic damage your nation suffers, or else you wouldn't proceed as you are.

So, is Donbas and Crimea valuable, or not. If its not, you prove you are unworthy of European culture and association by your actions; if it is valuable, you are a simple liar; which, honestly, in a time of war is absolutely fine.

[Cid_Yama]

:
Ukraine to begin gold mining this year
May 29, 2013

The Ukraine will begin large-scale commercial gold mining this year, reports BullionStreet.

The country is estimated to have resources of about 400 tonnes in the western Carpathian Mountains and 500 tonnes in the southeastern Donbas region.

The areas around the central city of Kirovohrad, the southeastern city of Dnipropetrovsk and the Crimea are said to have additional deposits.

In three to five years, the country is forecasted to output at least one tonne of gold.

Currently, the Ukraine does not produce its own gold and imports about five tonnes annually. The government estimates it can reduce imports by one-third as a result of domestic production.

link

30 years ago, huh? More like just before the Coup.

The diamonds are mentioned on the Donetsk Region State Administration site which I provided a link to. Oil and Gas figures also mentioned on that site.

Might help if you actually read the links before posting.

You just demonstrated YOU don't know what you are talking about. Moron.

[Quinny]

...but Cid, surely a Donetsk native would know better

[radon1]

https://twitter.com/poroshenko/status/5 ... 8473631744

[AgentR11]

One of the battalions of the so called "DNR", "Vostok" is headed by his security chief.

"Its" "kinda" "like" "quoting" "everything" "because" "scare" "quotes" "are" "scary" "or" "at" "least" "indicate" "your" "disapproval".

Scare quotes in social media will not win this war for you. You need competent commanders and professional soldiers; not twitter accounts.

nb.. Love that yall managed to deliver classified tech into the hands of the DNR by the way. Thanks. *NOT*

Idgits in Debaltstev-eo managed to leave an anti-mortar radar system behind, not even opened. This is what I mean when I say sending weapons to Kiev is pointless; they need professional soldiers loyal to the Rada and the President; not random draftees and private battalions loyal to Oligarch X.

[Withnail]

Idgits in Debaltstev-eo managed to leave an anti-mortar radar system behind, not even opened. This is what I mean when I say sending weapons to Kiev is pointless; they need professional soldiers loyal to the Rada and the President; not random draftees and private battalions loyal to Oligarch X.

That's called being a proper country, but Donetsk and the rest of the Ukie morons don't understand this and think private armies of bandits are just as good.

[radon1]

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/kor ... eally.html

Korsun massacre anniversary - what really pushed Crimea away from Ukraine

Eight buses with Crimeans, who participated in Kiev in Antimaidan rallies, were returned home [after their opponents have won]. Near Korsun in Cherkasy oblast, the convoy was ambushed by the armed thugs from the Right Sector. As became known later, the Nazis were aware of the movement of the column and were expecting the Crimeans.

The captured buses were burned, their passengers were brutally tortured, beaten and humiliated. Several people were beaten to death and murdered.

POW's exchange between Ukraine and Donbass

http://youtu.be/WkBpYKH7d6k

[Donetsk]

...but Cid, surely a Donetsk native would know better

And only a moron would not understand that a Donetsk native does not need freshly googled links to be aware of natural resources of his region. Wouldn't you agree, Quin?

[Donetsk]

One of the battalions of the so called "DNR", "Vostok" is headed by his security chief.

"Its" "kinda" "like" "quoting" "everything" "because" "scare" "quotes" "are" "scary" "or" "at" "least" "indicate" "your" "disapproval".

Scare quotes in social media will not win this war for you. You need competent commanders and professional soldiers; not twitter accounts.

nb.. Love that yall managed to deliver classified tech into the hands of the DNR by the way. Thanks. *NOT*

Idgits in Debaltstev-eo managed to leave an anti-mortar radar system behind, not even opened. This is what I mean when I say sending weapons to Kiev is pointless; they need professional soldiers loyal to the Rada and the President; not random draftees and private battalions loyal to Oligarch X.

What made you think it was unopened? Did you pack it or smthing
May be it was packed for departure.

[Withnail]

What made you think it was unopened? Did you pack it or smthing
May be it was packed for departure.

Here in the civilised world, you can tell when stuff hasn't been opened before. What with it being packed in sealed bags and polstyrene and stuff.

Now go get your shine box, boy. This radar detector needs a good polish.

[Donetsk]

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/korsun-massacre-anniversary-what-really.html

Korsun massacre anniversary - what really pushed Crimea away from Ukraine

Eight buses with Crimeans, who participated in Kiev in Antimaidan rallies, were returned home [after their opponents have won]. Near Korsun in Cherkasy oblast, the convoy was ambushed by the armed thugs from the Right Sector. As became known later, the Nazis were aware of the movement of the column and were expecting the Crimeans.

The captured buses were burned, their passengers were brutally tortured, beaten and humiliated. Several people were beaten to death and murdered.

POW's exchange between Ukraine and Donbass

http://youtu.be/WkBpYKH7d6k

How were they tortured? They had to sing their National Anthem? Poor anti-maidanites... Anything else?
And we both know perfectly well that absolute majority didn't give a damn about this incident.

[Donetsk]

And yet you guys are willing to destroy your hopes of a Western European life, and suffer an unending series of defeats in order to keep Crimea and Donbas within Ukraine. If you are EU material, then you must believe its economic value is worth the catastrophic damage your nation suffers, or else you wouldn't proceed as you are.

So, is Donbas and Crimea valuable, or not. If its not, you prove you are unworthy of European culture and association by your actions; if it is valuable, you are a simple liar; which, honestly, in a time of war is absolutely fine.

What kind of sick mind determines whether his land is worth fighting for based on a potential cash flow? A Western European one? I kind of doubt it, really. May be that's the way in Texas, I dunno.
While at it , mind reminding me when Bulgaria and Romania are supposed to get a " Western European life"? From what I know, life is pretty much shit there. They needed a war to reach Kiev by quality of life.

[radon1]

http://to-collapse.beforeitsnews.com/eu ... 78794.html

CIA puppet regime in Kiev close to collapse

Der Spiegel also shows that the overriding fact that provoked Merkel to go to Moscow and launch the Minsk process was the encirclement of up to a quarter of the effective combat troops of the Ukrainian army by the rebel militia at Debaltsevo.

Der Spiegel says Merkel launched the peace initiative in order to save what Der Spiegel calls “the heart of Ukraine’s army” from destruction. Der Spiegel even talks about the Europeans (ie. Merkel and Hollande) trying to “protect” the Ukrainian military at Debaltsevo. Der Spiegel’s words are:

“The Europeans……. insisted on an immediate cease-fire out of concern for the volatile situation facing the Ukrainian military.

An article by Niall Ferguson in the Financial Times says it was Putin who invited Merkel and Hollande to Moscow in order to divide the West and prevent the US sending arms to Kiev. An editorial in the London Times says the same thing. Der Spiegel shows this is untrue.

[Cid_Yama]

We, of course, knew all along. We're like the librarians in Soylent Green.

And frankly, it was more like three quarters. Their army has effectively ceased to exist.

Der Spiegel's article may have been an attempt to make the world believe there is more of Kiev's forces left than there actually is.

[radon1]

http://www.thicktoast.com/the-west-is-dumping-kiev/

The West is Dumping Kiev

To those pundits I say, you have no idea what kind of political capital the US and EU are spending to justify Ukraine’s Nazi fetish. Consider the recent UN resolution to fight the “glorification of Nazism”. In November of 2014, Russia proposed this resolution through concern for the demonstrations of Nazism in Kiev.

If you were born and raised in western Ukraine, perhaps you don’t realize what the big deal is. Having grown up in the United States, I can tell you that Hitler is the epitome of evil. His name is invoked for the maximum “devil” impact possible, when trying to put the verbal smack-down on someone.

Here is the crux of the matter: ultimately, the United States government is accountable to its people. Sure, the US runs rampant, causing destruction and chaos around the world, but there is 1 key element to this charade that must be understood: the United States must put up a facade of being the “good guys”. This is non-negotiable. The US population is lulled to sleep, giving the government a blank check to do whatever it wants, but only if we’re being the “good guys”.

Now put yourself in the mindset of western governments, trying to justify its war in Ukraine. They try to demonize Putin. How? By giving him the maximum evil smack-down, Hillary compares Putin to Hitler. David Cameron compares Putin to Hitler. The Luthuanian president compares Putin to Hitler. While not directly, Obama’s adviser compares Putin to Hitler. Prince Charles compares Putin to Hitler. John McCain said the following:

If Putin is allowed to go into a sovereign nation on behalf of Russian-speaking people, this is the same thing that Hitler did prior to World War II.

So here you have the entire western narrative collaborating in an attempt to demonize Putin by comparing him to Hitler. This is powerful, effective, its tasty to the people of the United States, it looks like the west is scoring a major propaganda victory, until …

This poster was hung in front of the Kiev city council building in March of 2014.

Can you imagine the fury in the west as all the Bandera-worshiping fools in Kiev blew the story by brandishing Nazi symbols, SS wolfsangel, swastika, throwing sieg heils and actually worshiping Hitler.

Now back to that UN resolution against the glorification of Nazism, mentioned above. Putin is quite clever. He noted the US position on supporting Nazis in Ukraine and decided to let it be cemented in stone. There were only three countries that voted against the UN resolution against glorification of Nazism: The United States, Canada and Ukraine.

The US was put between a rock and a hard place, damned if they do and damned if they don’t. If they condemned Nazism, they come under condemnation for having supported 1000s of Nazis during the cold war. They would be called into account for their support of the Kiev coup. On the other hand, if they voted against it, they enrage average US citizens who are against Hitler and Nazis.

[Strummer]

That Hitler poster is photoshopped, but there was a Bandera poster for a while there.