onlooker wrote:Efficient for whom? For the bureaucracy yep. As for the masses imagine a virtually unlimited virtually free source of energy for everyone. Suddenly the mundane material cares and concerns become much less of a problem. Oh and no hefty fees in fact NO fees. Yep I know does not equate to the spirit of capitalism, where is the profit to be made?
Cog wrote:Zero point energy LOL.
So where are you going to get the lithium for the billions of batteries to store power when the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't' blowing? In fantasy land apparently.
Centralized energy production is much more efficient than billions of individual power producing operations. Unless we are simply talking about having a few led lights so you don't trip over something at night.
Hawkcreek wrote:[
Distributed energy production is possible, and drive through the southwest and you will see just how many rooftops are sprouting PV panels.
It is happening at the same time that some are hollering it isn't possible. Kind of funny.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Just because it is possible doesn't mean it is practical, cost wise.
The installation costs for solar panels aren't going away any time soon. I can't apparently even get solar shingles installed from a reputable dealer with a great reputation, at least according to the web searches I do. (Plenty of hits for states like CA though).
It's not that such technologies are "impossible", it's that in a world where voters and politicians which cater to them refuse to make meaningful steps toward mitigating climate change, aside from early adopters who don't care about price, it's not economically practical.
This is the main reason why I think in the short run, BEV's are a joke. What middle class family can afford a $30,000ish BEV AND the solar installation to charge it? Until they can, running a BEV on coal isn't exactly brilliant carbon footprint reduction, nor pollution management.
Hawkcreek wrote:I learned to work on cars when I was young and too broke to afford a mechanic. I expect the new class of young, broke people will be the ones who will adopt decentralized power, and BEV's.
All the old lazy f**kers will just have to stay at home, freezing in the dark.
You know the guy died in a lunatic asylum right?
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Outcast_Searcher wrote:So let's see. If a baby boomer points to lots of spoiled millenials living in their parents' basements rent free, that is politically incorrect. But calling older people who have real health problems like bad hearts, lots of joint pain, etc. "lazy" if they don't do their own auto maintenance is brilliant commentary.
Meanwhile my point about real world costs stands. If those costs come way down and BEV's prove to be competitive with traditional cars, given the costs of decentralized electricity, then I expect things to start to change at more than the early adopter fringe.
By the way, in the real world, older people who want mobility are expected to lead the adoption of the self driving car. (The world where fracking is leading to big oil gluts, not us running out of oil real soon now). http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... ed-seniors
Hawkcreek wrote: I think that more than 70% of senior health problems are caused by laziness and poor diet choices -- all things that seniors CHOOSE. I have made many changes to my own diet because of information I have learned about cardiovascular health.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Hawkcreek wrote: I think that more than 70% of senior health problems are caused by laziness and poor diet choices -- all things that seniors CHOOSE. I have made many changes to my own diet because of information I have learned about cardiovascular health.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I think that until you are in someone else's shoes and actually experiencing what they are experiencing medically, it's far easier to judge and dismiss than to understand.
So call me a coward or lazy, but IMO, I have good reason not to do my own auto maintenance, and I see it as more bad luck than a character flaw. (And no, I don't blame anyone else, and haven't asked for special treatment or special help).
Hawkcreek wrote:So I understand that some people can't, or choose not to cause themselves pain by working on stuff, that others are trained to work on.
I do still believe, however, that 70% of seniors would be much better off if they engage in activities at which they start off being totally incompetent at. I know, I ended that sentence with a preposition. I suck at grammar.
Ending a sentence with a preposition was a stupid rule since its (mis-)conception by the idiot Robert Louwth in 1762. It is finally falling out of the official prescriptive grammar books. According to legend, when his secretary scolded Churchill about this usage, he came back with: "That is the kind of nonsense up with which I will not put!"
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