[Cog]

Inside every doomer is a serial killer busting to get out.

Be careful with those personal confessions of yours.

Really?

Didn't you just say this a couple of posts ago:

Should be jail climate-change deniers?

That would be enjoyable, just to see the look on their face.

Doomers are natural social engineers with a dark side. The either want to imprison, kill, sterilize, or otherwise destroy most of the human population to create some sort of mud-hut utopia.

[vtsnowedin]

Here's a question that might move this thread forward to some sort of answer. Think about this first before you answer. I do have a direction for this question in mind. More questions will follow.

Which is more valuable for humanity? Money, or energy?

Bonus question: Which of those two answers is more important to humanity today?

Easy question. The answer is energy.
Money is just a medium of exchange which we use to buy or sell real things such as energy or food or someones labor. The pieces of paper or the balance on your credit/debit card only have value if you can buy something like a gallon of gas with it.
Bonus question is energy also.
Now compare energy to food or water or shelter and clothing and the question becomes more difficult.

[onlooker]

Okay guys I see that I am beating a horse to death here pardon the pun. But yes have to agree, we are the virus afflicting Earth and we must to a large degree be eradicated. I hope I am not giving some megalomaniac any ideas here or for that matter Ibon or Vox haha. Seriously, though I must admit I now cling to Ibon's thesis that consequences are the solution in order not to just get seriously depressed. Maybe, I just am rooting for my kind to make it. Is that sick? I do not know considering how my kind as behaved throughout our history. Maybe some of us are like parents no matter what our child does we are ready to forgive and forget.

[Newfie]

Inside every doomer is a serial killer busting to get out.

Be careful with those personal confessions of yours.

Really?

Didn't you just say this a couple of posts ago:

Should be jail climate-change deniers?

That would be enjoyable, just to see the look on their face.

Doomers are natural social engineers with a dark side. The either want to imprison, kill, sterilize, or otherwise destroy most of the human population to create some sort of mud-hut utopia.

How do you define "doomer"?

[dohboi]

" I now cling to Ibon's thesis that consequences are the solution in order not to just get seriously depressed"

Well, thanks for being honest that, for you at least, 'clinging to' Ibon's thesis is more an (entirely understandable) emotional response rather than a rational assessment of its merits.

We all need to find comfort where we can get it. But I hope we can continue to distinguish that needed function from reasoned assessments of what seems most likely to unfold.

As to the depression thing, I've long said that if the sorry state of the world doesn't at least occasionally drive you to serious depression (or drinking...), then there is likely something seriously wrong with you!!

[snoopdog]

Non-European man not interested in this stuff. We don't live the life, man. How we can stop what we never started?

[dohboi]

If you make over about $35,000 a year, you're almost certainly 'livin' the life.' (IIRC, something like that level of income puts one in the top 1% of global earners.)

Same if you do any flying, drive much, eat much meat (that you didn't raise yourself)...

Ancestry does not exempt one from ongoing harms we are doing.

But of course, there are some who have done much more, and classes of people who bear much greater current and historic responsibility than others.

[Timo]

Inside every doomer is a serial killer busting to get out.

Be careful with those personal confessions of yours.

Really?

Didn't you just say this a couple of posts ago:

Should be jail climate-change deniers?

That would be enjoyable, just to see the look on their face.

Doomers are natural social engineers with a dark side. The either want to imprison, kill, sterilize, or otherwise destroy most of the human population to create some sort of mud-hut utopia.

Hey! I just said it would be fun to incarcerate the deniers, not KILL them!

[snoopdog]

If you make over about $35,000 a year, you're almost certainly 'livin' the life.' (IIRC, something like that level of income puts one in the top 1% of global earners.)

Same if you do any flying, drive much, eat much meat (that you didn't raise yourself)...

Ancestry does not exempt one from ongoing harms we are doing.

But of course, there are some who have done much more, and classes of people who bear much greater current and historic responsibility than others.

How can be, bro? We no ras clats living like the man. Most non-Europeans, even in Babylon

[dohboi]

If the shoe don't fit, don't wear it.

CO2, though, is blind to race, class, and every other human social distinction distinction.

[ennui2]

As to the depression thing, I've long said that if the sorry state of the world doesn't at least occasionally drive you to serious depression (or drinking...), then there is likely something seriously wrong with you!!

I would agree with that statement.

There came a point for me where I simply didn't have the energy left to feel fearful and depressed or obsessing on schemes to game may way through the bottleneck. Only by virtue of entering into this zone am I able to deal with all of the latest environmental doom without crawling into the fetal position.

The older I get the easier it is to deal with because I just have to wrestle with ordinary mortality anyway, but I still feel bad for what my daughter will need to confront, as she's nowhere near a Sarah Connor type.

[snoopdog]

If the shoe don't fit, don't wear it.

CO2, though, is blind to race, class, and every other human social distinction distinction.

Naa badda mi. Dis is babylon problem.

[AdamB]

Can we stop/slow our assault on Earth, if so how?

Can we? SHOULD we?

[Lore]

Can we stop/slow our assault on Earth, if so how?

Can we? SHOULD we?

Yes we can, as far as slowing it down and making it less severe. As for the last question, only if you want life to continue on the planet resembling something like it is today.