ralfy wrote:vtsnowedin wrote:ralfy wrote:ICEs are needed to make EVs.
No they are not.
They are used in various mining equipment, some energy sources for manufacturing, and many forms of transport, including container ships and trucks. They are even used in mechanized agriculture and to make more ICEs.
Yes but electric versions of all those things exist with the exception of aircraft. ICEs are at present the cheapest way to go by far but when oil is depleted we do have alternatives.