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With Saudi Arrests, Crown Prince Shows He Can Force Change. But It’s Not Democracy

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The Saudi prince behind the weekend’s unprecedented arrest of high-level Saudi officials and businessmen is known as young and brash, and has even been called reckless. He is also known to be in tune with Saudi Arabia’s youth; those under 25 make up a majority of the country’s population.

The prince’s latest high-risk move has gotten rave reviews from Saudis on Twitter, the country’s most popular social media outlet. Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, or MBS, as the 32-year-old leader is known, is gambling that he can modernize the ultra-conservative kingdom by consolidating power and mobilizing a generation of young people, say Saudi analysts inside and outside the kingdom.

“Did MBS just pull a red wedding?” asked one supporter on Twitter, comparing the weekend’s purge to a bloody family massacre on Game of Thrones.

Arrests began on Saturday, hours after the prince was named to head a new anti-corruption commission. The roundup included 11 princes, sitting and former cabinet officials and one high-profile businessman — billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, one of the world’s richest men, who has extensive investments in Western companies including Twitter, Apple and the Four Seasons hotel chain. The detentions were headline news on Al Arabiya, a Saudi-owned news channel.

These high-profile targets were previously considered untouchable in the Saudi kingdom and follow other controversial moves, including a royal decree allowing women to drive and limits on the power of the religious police.

It does not mean Saudi Arabia is opening up to democracy. The country’s rulers are unelected monarchs with a record of jailing critics and members of the Shiite minority. And the purge — action taken by a single leader — is very much in keeping with Saudi royal tradition. But the sweep of arrests marks a change.

“It is unprecedented, more for the speed and the scale,” says H.A. Hellyer, a fellow at the Royal United Services Institute in London and the Atlantic Council. Mohammed bin Salman is sending a message, he says: “This guy is in charge and nobody is off the table.”

The crown prince is a Saudi-educated son of the current King Salman bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud Salman. In a surprise move, he was elevated in June to become next in the succession, replacing his older cousin.

“His position is already secure. It’s not like he was being challenged. Everyone suspects he will be announced as the new king. But you can always consolidate more,” says Hellyer.

In one of his first TV interviews after his June promotion, Mohammed bin Salman pledged to tackle endemic corruption in the kingdom. “No one who got involved in a corruption case will escape, regardless if he was a minister or a prince,” he warned.

It turned out to be no idle threat.

“Many of them have been known as deeply corrupt,” said a Saudi official who supports the crown prince and requested anonymity to discuss the arrest list — which includes former CEOs of Saudi Telecom and Saudi Airlines, four sitting cabinet ministers and high-profile business leaders from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia’s business capital on the Red Sea coast. Some had close personal relations to the crown prince.

These high-profile arrests send a powerful message, said the Saudi official. Business as usual is over, he said, with this “shock to the system.”

It has been shocking indeed in a kingdom used to a glacial pace of change. While Mohammed bin Salman launched the blitz of arrests, he also announced elements of an anti-corruption campaign that appears designed to win public approval, especially among Saudi youth.

His anti-corruption commission launched a new probe into an old corruption case involving damage after floods devastated the Red Sea city of Jeddah in 2009. Torrential rains washed away thousands of homes and killed more than 120 people.

“No one was held to account there for the damage after the floods,” said the Saudi official who asked for anonymity. “Fighting corruption is always popular.”

The devastation in Jeddah was blamed on corrupt real estate practices and spurred a grassroots political movement that launched the career of a female activist, 38-year-old Rasha Hefzi. She won a seat on the Jeddah local council in 2015, when women could run for office for the first time.

The government has announced new trials with as many as 320 defendants, including some already acquitted by local courts.

The young prince is dismantling the old Saudi Arabia, says the government official, at least in how it makes decisions. “The consensus-based system is over,” he said, referring to Saudi Arabia’s traditional governance that involved a slow process of consensus within the royal family.

For the hard decisions, “We need the support of the majority of the people,” he said.

The new populism in the kingdom has the backing of the Trump administration — in particular, Jared Kushner, who reportedly has a close personal relationship with the crown prince.

But Mohammed bin Salman is playing a high-stakes game and there are grave risks, says F. Gregory Gause, head of the international affairs department at Texas A&M’s Bush School of Government and Public Service.

“The biggest risk here is to Prince Mohammad’s Vision 2030,” he says, a far-reaching reform plan to reduce Saudi Arabia’s dependence on oil and diversify the economy.

“If some of the leading figures of the Saudi private sector can be detained in this way, it introduces enormous uncertainty into the investment environment,” says Gause. “Capitalists do not like uncertainty.”


58 Comments on "With Saudi Arrests, Crown Prince Shows He Can Force Change. But It’s Not Democracy"

  1. joe on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 10:38 am 

    Is nobody interested that they arrested the Chairman of the Bin Laden Group? Fuck me, the western media is being criminal in its whitewashing of these events, scared shitless in case oil price rises force interest rate rises which will cause the another stock market bubble to burst.

  2. Anonymouse1 on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 10:40 am 

    As always, as if on cue, uS propaganda rushes to support the current leader of the Yid-friendly regime in Riyadh. Note how propaganda Radio describes him, to paraphrase, as a brash, progressively (but not really), reformer(but not really), who is in ‘tune’ with the ‘youth’ of arabia (but not really), who is a new broom, sweeping away all the retrograde dinosaurs of the old guard.

    Of course, NPR has to gamely admit, none of this its very ‘democratic’, whatever NPR means by that, who knows? The important thing isn’t who this rag-head is arresting, but that he is solidly on Tel Aviv’s and washingdum’s payroll. His ‘democratic’ credentials, or lack thereof, are immaterial.

    NPR for its part, camouflages the uS’s endorsement of the status-quo, by framing tel aviv’s (new) man in Riyadh, as a youthful, forward looking populist. LoL.

  3. Richard Nanes on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 5:35 pm 

    “to support the current leader of the Yid-friendly regime in Riyadh”. Mr. Anonymouse, why are you this type of language. Your apparent hatred for Jewish people seems is quite obvious. Your comments IMHO lowers yourself to me and probably many other readers.

  4. Go Speed Racer on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 7:56 pm 

    Piece of shit driverless bus crashes 2 hours
    after they turn it loose.

    Not all of us are so phucking stupid that we
    want driverless cars. Just the super rich
    Trillionaire leeches who make us all
    go to work, job is digging our own graves.

  5. makati1 on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 8:04 pm 

    Richard, the Jews are responsible for most of the problems today, directly or indirectly. They are gaining more haters with every push for their “promised land”. They should have been forced to live scattered as they were prior to the world wars.

    Question: If Israel is so good and important, why do most Jews NOT live there?

    After all, isn’t that what all of this is about? Give their land in the ME back to the natives and give the Jews Madagascar. Send them ALL there, and don’t let them leave, or have connection with the outside world, … ever.

  6. MASTERMIND on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 8:13 pm 

    Madkat good grief now you are attacking the jews…You are a nonstop hate machine..Question for you though..Do you really think the US will collapse quietly into the night?

  7. Apneaman on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 8:15 pm 

    GSR, great link. If clog see it he will counter it with 17 ‘by 2030’ links.

    I was just thinking if we were at the crash site we could pull all the seats and make one hell of a bonfire. They’re really just little sofas on metal frames.

  8. makati1 on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 8:27 pm 

    MM,if you go back, my comment is not new. In fact it is years old. Capitalism/Jews/Empire are all the same topic. Jews are running the empire and killing America. So, yes, I AM against them. And what I said holds. So what?

    US: ~7,000.000 Jews (~2% of the population)
    Ps: ~200 Jews (~0.0000002% of the population) (WIKI)

    Another reason I like the Ps. LOL

  9. MASTERMIND on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 9:14 pm 

    Madkat how exactly are the jews ruining america? That sounds like pure paranoia…And Israel is the only free democratic country in the entire middle east..Muslims,Christians, anyone is welcome to live in Israel or travel their anytime..Jews are not allowed inside any muslim countries…You have been reading way to much fake right wing news…

  10. GregT on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 9:31 pm 


    Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews.

  11. makati1 on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 9:46 pm 

    And that indicates? They obviously support the “Zionists” by their lack of opposition. Just as all Americans are guilty of the crimes committed in their name by the Empire. All will suffer for the actions of the few.

  12. makati1 on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 9:49 pm 

    MM, I gave refs to that declaration a few days ago. Did you miss it?

    I am not going to do it a second time, but if you google Famous Jews in the US or Jews in US Government or Jews in Hollywood (propaganda) or Jews in Finance…etc. You can see for yourself.

  13. GregT on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 10:26 pm 

    Plenty of Jews are opposed to Zionism Makati.

    And plenty of Christians, for example, not only support Zionism, but are in fact Zionists.

  14. makati1 on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 10:58 pm 

    Ah, but Nuttyyahoo is still in charge and they support him, or he wouldn’t be. Israeli leadership is insane and taking the US insane leadership with them … and us … to a possible nuclear, extinction event.

    Call them what you will, they should all be exterminated before they manage to do it to the rest of the world. Or, at the very least, the Empire should be financially reduced to 3rd world status, and soon, so they don’t have the ability to do more than survive. The rabid dogs need to be put down, today!

  15. MASTERMIND on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 11:23 pm 

    Madkat your sources are always bullshit..the burning platform, zerohedge, etc…You just search for whatever you want to find..For example “Greedy Jews”…Then a webpage called ‘” pulls up and you read and believe whatever it says and share it as proof…

  16. MASTERMIND on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 11:25 pm 

    Madkat: SHAME ON YOU….Rabid dogs…WoW…You should visit the holocaust museum….

  17. Apneaman on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 11:31 pm 

    Saudi government may confiscate up to $800 billion in anticorruption crackdown

    *Nothing new under the Sun*

    Proscription – ancient Roman notice

    “Proscription, Latin proscriptio, plural proscriptiones, in ancient Rome, a posted notice listing Roman citizens who had been declared outlaws and whose goods were confiscated. Rewards were offered to anyone killing or betraying the proscribed, and severe penalties were inflicted on anyone harbouring them. Their properties were confiscated, and their sons and grandsons were forever barred from public office and from the Senate.”

    Same shit, different century.

  18. makati1 on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 11:44 pm 

    MM. I am German by ancestry, what can you expect? LOL I also see what they have done, and are doing to my country, America. If I could, i would personally take all of them to the South Pole and strand them with only a knife for each to defend themselves against the others. Then wait for the carnage to begin. And it would not be long to wait. Fresh meat and warm clothes. Their ‘religion’ would evaporate the first day. Animal survival of the fittest would prevail.

    I stand by my comment.

    As for my references, they are as good as any you can produce from your propaganda factories called colleges/universities. Paid for professors writing whatever the government/corporation pays for.

    The real world will prove my assertions correct. Wait and see.

  19. fmr-paultard on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 11:50 pm 

    because we’re tards we hang out in intarweb and it’s natural dwelling of SENTAPBs. supremacist extremist nazi tard antisemitic preachers bumpskied are virus which leech off the host and have no problem killing it if host is weak. That’s why MSM is in charge and SENTAPBs is fell of the earth. If their confabs are bumpskied hardly anyone notices.

    I’m not the only former paultard, i also just became a historian. The intardweb is double sworded and it lays bare for anyone to see the level of extremism. SENPTAPBs in historical context are responsibles for genocide. all their talk about islam is setting them up for genocide. It’s not the “elites” or the “globalists” that do it. It’s always them.

    To bumpski them is an act of love since they don’t care about killing the host and kill themselves in the process.

  20. fmr-paultard on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 11:56 pm 

    it’s inhumane to hunt helpless animals. the hunting ground should be at SENTAPBs confabs and this is a fair and level ground game because the risk to hunter is high.

  21. fmr-paultard on Wed, 8th Nov 2017 11:59 pm 

    back in the day the intarweb was full of liberals and usenet was full of ideas and sex. and richard stallman was defending liberty, the freedom to write code. that was light years ahead of any fight for freedom. today intardweb is infested with SENTAPBs inheriting the space of free software that stallman helped to nourish

  22. MASTERMIND on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 12:31 am 


    Ann Frank wrote in her diary that “Dead people receive more flowers then alive ones because regret is more powerful then gratitude.”

    Maybe you should think about that..You don’t want to be an old man who dies alone with….Regret…

  23. MASTERMIND on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 12:35 am 

    Our modern civilization is about to come to a very sudden end. The vast majority of humanity will never understand what happened.

  24. Cloggie on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 12:39 am 

    “Madkat how exactly are the jews ruining america? That sounds like pure paranoia.”

    Usually “masterminds” provide answers rather than posing stupid questions that reveal your total lack of understanding of your owm society.

    First begin to research the origins of the Fed. Your money supply is in private hands, their hands. That means that dollar interest payments are essentially a global kosher tax.

    Oh and Wallstreet is under kosher control as well.

    With that money they can and do corrupt your entire politics. US politics is bought and paid for by kosher money. all the major campaign donors are kosher, every candidate has a handler.

    Next they own the media, so they can brainwash you hours per day, read: in accepting multicult and race-mixing. Bye-bye white America.

    The opening of US borders in 1965 for mass immigration from the third world was entirely their work, read this for the details:

    The US is now on its way to become a third world country with ditto standards and income level.

    But the nightmare has yet to begin for white America. These thirld worlders were imported for a reason, namely as a proletariat that can and will be set up against white America in the coming anti-white revolution, where every aspect of white civilization and its history is going to be demonized. Apneaman, himself a jew, gleefully quoted yesterday a poll that said that a majority of US youngsters want socialism or even communism. Expect US society to explode soon in a situation very similar to Petersburg 1917, where whites will try to prevent the implementation of a communist system, resulting in a civil war a la de one in `Russia 1917-1922. Oh and the communist leaders in Russia were dominated by koshers as well.

    Oh and then there is foreign policy. Said koshers have been instigating war after war to use US resources in setting up a global empire. The first victim was Germany that was completely destroyed; the rest of Europe was en passant colonized as well (but that is coming to an end soon). After 1945 the US was until 1990 mostly occupied fighting a Cold War for no other reason than that Stalin had removed the jews from power in the USSR. In 1990 that battle was won and the US could colonize Russia as well via jewish oligarchs and could merrily focus on new victims to colonize: since the US had lost Iran since 1981, neighbor Iraq was the first target, which failed. Other targets: Ukraine, Libya, Syria.

    But now it is over. China is rising fast, Russia reborn and the European populist right is growing and pro-Russia. The US presidency is in populist hands, the dollar reserve currency is under strong global attack so dark days are ahead for the remaining local empire supporters like Davy, boat, supertard, antifa-mastermind and a few more, who have great trouble to make sense of it all.

    Short message: the f* is going to be taken apart in WW3 c.q. CW2 or both.

  25. Apneaman on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 12:48 am 

    clog, I see you are back from your mirco-penis support group. Feel better?

  26. makati1 on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 1:21 am 

    MM, no regrets. I have 73 years of living in the real world as my guide to my thoughts and comments. Some 660,000 hours. How many did you spend to get your narrow, brainwashed ideas? lol

    As for that “very sudden end”, so be it. It will be caused by the very Jews who are pushing for war. They too will die. All things must end. Especially empires.

  27. makati1 on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 1:24 am 

    Good summary. Cloggie. I get tired trying to teach real history to the brainwashed.

  28. Davy on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 4:24 am 

    “First begin to research the origins of the Fed. Your money supply is in private hands, their hands. That means that dollar interest payments are essentially a global kosher tax.”

    More loony tune shit from the other extremist anti-American. The realities of the Fed are quite different. You are stuck in a early 20th century unreality for the reality of the 21st century.

    “Oh and Wallstreet is under kosher control as well.”

    BS, there are influential Jews but no “under control”. More extremism from the anti-American Jew baiter. Notice how he failed to give any references even extremist ones.

  29. Davy on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 4:27 am 

    Mad kat and dumb n dutch, the too extremist crazy old men who daily stratify this board into extremist POV. They both are now in a support group. I call that desperation.

  30. deadlykillerbeaz on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 4:38 am 

    I could write about the members of the tribes of Israel, twelve of them, two hours each day for each tribe, those from the House of Judah and those from the House of Israel.

    Martin Luther wrote a screed entitled ‘The Jews And Their Dirty Lies’. You know how they lie all of the time.

    There are Ten Commandments, Holy Moses carries them down from the mountain top and God Himself gave instructions what to do and not do, only to Moses though, nobody else could watch.

    Don’t lie, you lying bastard.

    Don’t kill, not that you can’t though. War is a good excuse as any to start killing people. Too many of them anyway, so killing them is a good business model. Thou shalt not kill is merely a suggestion, you can kill, people are doing it all of the time. Just one of those things living in this world of woe that takes place night and day. War is God’s answer to cull the herds, the subhumans don’t deserve to live a full life, get rid of them. War is good bidness and bidness is good. It’s a boom industry and its booming all of the time.

    Don’t covet, not anything, if it isn’t yours, it isn’t yours. Don’t steal a thing, especially oil.

    Don’t commit adultery, don’t do it. Unless it is Donald Trump, he can commit adultery, an indulgence granted. Probably deserves sainthood for being a US President, a job nobody can do.

    You have to get a divorce before you can find another woman and have your fun. If the woman commits adultery, she can be stoned to death.

    Stoning has its pluses and with God’s blessings, stoning people to death is not a great sin. You can’t pick them off with an automatic assault weapon when they’re in church though, that is too great a great sin. Somebody will shoot you. That’s what happens when you kill people at a church.

    Don’t have any other gods, not a golden calf, not a private jet, not billions of dollars, too many gods on this earth, one is enough.

    Then along came Abraham and Sarah and Hagar and the rest is history, the story of wretchedness began.

    People need to be enslaved before they are killed, God said so.

    Then John Newton sang Amazing Grace and the world was saved again.

    Too many people on this planet anywho, so they need to sin to be saved then be enslaved then killed.

    Capitalism and industrial civilization should be destroyed, they represent everything contrary to the Ten Commandments. There ain’t no money in it for 99 percent of humanity, only the one percent can be well-heeled, the money has to be in the right hands, theirs. You can go fight their wars and be happy.

    We need more killing fields and fewer oil fields.

    A final solution of some kind is really necessary. Arbeit Macht Frei and all that groovy stuff to bring an end to the world as we know it.

    Let’s all pray that the Jews get the ball rolling and all those worthless goyim just go away, gone and gone for good.

    Killing them all is a good plan.

    We can strike the no kill commandment, and the don’t covet commandment, and the don’t bear false witness commandment, strike all of them.

    Don’t listen to God, He’s another lying bastard.

    Call it forced change.

    Time to force change on the entire planet and a super-sized global war will have a positive outcome for humans.

    The Saudis should be commended for taking action and solving a problem. Along with the Jews, the forced change can get legs. the ‘kill them all’ plan is the way to go. No sense in body counts either. Mass open graves so the buzzard populations show some growth. Go long buzzards. Plenty of bones to pick, so enjoy!

    Kicking ass works. With a good plan to terrorize the entire human population, traumatize everybody, a die-off can be realized.

    Just a matter of time to have a real nice world war that kills off ninety percent of the population. It would be a nightmare and a dream come true.

    All of the dead will end up in hell, so it is a worthy cause.

    Hell would be full and a die off in hell would have to happen too.

    Life can get complicated and death can be even more complicated.

    What is Satan going to do with all of those lost souls who are dead already and overcrowded in hell? Just too many wicked souls in hell now, don’t need any more of them, they’re all idiots.

    Have to empty hell, send them all up to heaven, God can deal with their sorry worthless hides.

    Blaming the Jews is so old, it is just plain stupid. Try a new scapegoat, don’t be a Judas Goat, an Old Adam, and don’t be brainwashing people with anti-jewish propaganda, it’s dumb.

    Better to blame God, He started it all. We didn’t start the fire sings Billy Joel.

    Verstehen sie mich?

    Have a good day.

  31. Yorchichan on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 6:19 am 


    If Jews are to blame for the mass immigration of Muslims into Europe from MENA, can you please explain why they would want this? The Muslims appear to hate Jews far more than white Christians do, so why would Jews want Muslims sharing the same streets? Would they really want the destruction of White Christian society even if it guaranteed their own persecution?

    The Naïveté of Jewish Support for Massive Muslim Immigration

  32. Go Speed Racer on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 7:45 am 

    Holy smokes Makita,
    At this rate you could start your own company….
    Making lampshades and selling ovens.

    Life is better if ya just stay out of that battle.
    Especially since it was already fought 1941-1945.

  33. Go Speed Racer on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 7:52 am 

    Hi sleep Apneaman, LOL “by 2030 links”.
    Yeah there sure is a lot of that. Comes from all
    the government researchers who don’t ever actually
    solve anything. They just collecting welfare checks,
    really big ones that put 3 kids thru college.

    Yeah the chairs in the bus have more metal but
    we could still bonfire the chairs. Afterwards all
    that leftover metal we can throw it into the truck
    and get money at the scrap yard.

  34. Cloggie on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 12:16 pm 

    “If Jews are to blame for the mass immigration of Muslims into Europe from MENA, can you please explain why they would want this?”

    They want to destroy us and take our place. It is about power. They tell themselves that they are “Gods Chosen people” that someday will “inherit the earth”.

    Muslims may be a menace for jews but Muslims are nowhere near taking over the West. The jews will use competing ethnic groups in the West as an excuse to implement a dictatorship to “keep the lot together”.

    Don’t take it from me, they admit to what they are up to:

    Paul Krugman admitting what they are up to with whitey:

    And the list goes on and on.

    One should almost feel sorry for the fate of the likes of Davy, boat, etc. because they have no clue what the future has in store for them because they have no clue about history.

  35. Apneaman on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 1:12 pm 

    GSR, one of the main reasons the US has been the undisputed top dog since 1945 is because of government research and government funded research. AKA, taxpayer funded. Do you have any idea how expensive it was to get all them Nazi scientists set up in the US at the end of the war? That’s just one of a thousand examples.

    There are many problems with the way science is funded and the system is run, but the government researcher meme is mostly bunk and blown all out of proportion via conservatard think tanks.

    Data check: U.S. government share of basic research funding falls below 50%

    “For the first time in the post–World War II era, the federal government no longer funds a majority of the basic research carried out in the United States. Data from ongoing surveys by the National Science Foundation (NSF) show that federal agencies provided only 44% of the $86 billion spent on basic research in 2015. The federal share, which topped 70% throughout the 1960s and ’70s, stood at 61% as recently as 2004 before falling below 50% in 2013.”

    I think that besides declining net energy, the dumb system that scientists are forced to operate in has contributed to the stagnation in real innovation.

    The Trouble With Scientists
    How one psychologist is tackling human biases in science.

    “Sometimes it seems surprising that science functions at all. In 2005, medical science was shaken by a paper with the provocative title “Why most published research findings are false.”1 Written by John Ioannidis, a professor of medicine at Stanford University, it didn’t actually show that any particular result was wrong. Instead, it showed that the statistics of reported positive findings was not consistent with how often one should expect to find them. As Ioannidis concluded more recently, “many published research findings are false or exaggerated, and an estimated 85 percent of research resources are wasted.”

    Don’t forget that thanks to government funded research a few generations of us were the healthiest in all of the history of civilization. No smallpox, polio, dying from simple bacterial infections and on and on. Humans are really going to miss their antibiotics – evolution is a bitch.

  36. Davy on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 1:32 pm 

    Dumb n Dutch, jew baiting his Nazi self over and over. Dumb, you are so intellectually lame. The Jews are only one of many power centers these day. You are so bent on your Jewish conspiracy that you are oblivious to the current global reality. Your fantasy and revisions of the past are a joke. You and Mad Kat are two ridiculous old men who are warped with hate and prejudice. Both of you are subhuman.

  37. MASTERMIND on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 2:30 pm 

    Davy, Madkat and davy are what several decades of involuntary celibacy do to someone…It ain’t pretty.. Madkat is so strange as well..Sometimes he makes excellent arguments that are hard to deny..Then two seconds later he will go off the freaking rails into paranoid conspiracy land..And start posting tons and tons of fake news…I guess what I am saying is “that boy ain’t right”….

  38. Apneaman on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 3:14 pm 

    The U.S. and Saudi Arabia Are About to Make More Disastrous and Idiotic Mistakes – Part 1

    The U.S. and Saudi Arabia Are About to Make More Disastrous and Idiotic Mistakes – Part 2

  39. Apneaman on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 4:32 pm 

    Learning to Love McCarthyism

    Good article that demonstrates how every country has internet operatives – government, industry & true believers. Also contains this dead on description of clog scum:

    “Those of us who operate on the Internet are familiar with harassment from “trolls” who may use access to “comment” sections to inject propaganda and disinformation to sow confusion, to cause disruption, or to discredit the site by promoting ugly opinions and nutty conspiracy theories.”

    Learning to Love McCarthyism

    Of course the Russians are meddling and hacking and spying, but not anymore than they always have and definitely not as mech as the west does who has many times the resources they do.

    For example:

    The Russian Spies Who Fooled Seattle

    “Before Russian espionage became part of our daily news diet, Russia was already working to infiltrate American politics and life, and few Americans noticed that its undercover agents lived among us.”

    “There the man in the shorts—later identified as a Russian agent using the alias Richard Murphy of New Jersey—handed Michael Zottoli from Seattle two items: a flash memory card and a bag that held $150,000 in cash.

    Within nine months they’d both be behind bars.”

    “They were arraigned on charges of money laundering and failing to register as agents of a foreign government. Yet the spies were shown leniency. All were allowed to return to their motherland in exchange for four U.S. spies being held in Russia.”

    “in exchange for four U.S. spies” – just like in the cold war which never really ended and just like the way espionage has been going on since the very moment there was more than one city state way back with the Sumerians. And it will continue until the humans are gone.

    They are undoubtedly making mountains out of molehills, but anyone who thinks the Russians are not playing the great game as per usual is being blinded by their hate and understandable desire to see change. The alt right retards are morons with their Putin-Russia worship. Guess what? Putin don’t give a shit about you either so best to give up those fantasies that supporting him will somehow (never explained, but implied) rescue you from the deep state, establishment, MIC security-survaliance state — call it what you will. You are stuck with what you have. You and your neighbors and fellow countrymen will need to start some shit on your own.

  40. Boat on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 4:38 pm 


    The R&D gov budget will go from 135 billion to 155. Apple has 300 billion in cash, Buffet has 100 billion cash in his fund, Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft etc can throw billions at any project.
    Any decent sized company can tear any product apart and steal the latest tech or go buy a smaller company for the latest trick. Hell Netflix announced adding a billion for content. That means a 6 billion budget. Don’t fret the R&D, The US will be fine.

  41. Boat on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 5:00 pm 


    The US countered the Jews with massive Catholic Latino immigration. You should try it. Why did you pick non Latino?

  42. makati1 on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 6:08 pm 

    MM, my “conspiracies” are closer to the truth than your fantasies. Only time will tell and will separate conspiracy from fact. Think Kennedy or 9/11. Americans have been force fed propaganda for so long they do not recognize truth if it disagrees with their programing. Your idea of ‘fake news’ proves my point.

    Thanks for the compliment though. I try to apply logic, common sense and my experience when I comment. I post how I see the world from my viewpoint here in Asia.

  43. Davy on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 6:12 pm 

    mad kat, you are a conspiracy for what is human.

  44. MASTERMIND on Thu, 9th Nov 2017 7:48 pm 

    Davy, Look its madkat…He has gone off the rails about the jews again..

  45. Cloggie on Fri, 10th Nov 2017 2:44 am 

    “Good article that demonstrates how every country has internet operatives – government, industry & true believers. Also contains this dead on description of clog“

    TalmudTurd clearly doesn’t like me exposing how his tribe tries to ruin European civilization in Europe and North-America through mass immigration and calls it “trolling”. And although I am the most outspoken here, the smarter ones here all at least hinted that your tribe has too much power: Theedrich, makati, Greg, Antius, TheNationalist. And even our representative of the Toronto BLM chapter Anonymous1 loves to gloat about the Jewknighted states. The intellectual second tier here like empire cheerleaders Davy, boat, “mastermind” and supertard have simply no clue, although Davy and boat admit that they want to see immigration halted but are careful to remain within pc bounds and mumble about “carrying capacity”.

    So it looks like you are the only real troll here apneaman. And boy what a terrible year it has been for that empire of yours. You lost the presidency and all the big foreigners like Trump: Putin, Xi and Macron (but not Merkel). And then there is the Syria disaster. No, things don’t look good for you at all.

  46. Davy on Fri, 10th Nov 2017 5:32 am 

    dumb n dutch, many here admit you are an intellectually compromised Nazi and spread hate and disinformation on what it means to be human. You are also stupid (dumb) when it comes to anything relating to the economy. You constantly revise history with dubious links without referencing with words to support your assertions. You speak of a fantasy future as if it is here. You are a typical propagandist just like mad kat. You two old men I call “The Dementia Men” hard at making themselves look like a fools. You have some good alternative energy info but please how hard is that. You have zero real wisdom and people like you are the reason this world is dying quickly.

  47. Davy on Fri, 10th Nov 2017 5:43 am 

    Is There Any Way Out Of The ECB’s Trap?

    “The ECB faces the Devil’s Alternative that Frederick Forsyth mentioned in one of his books. All options are potentially risky. Mario Draghi knows that maintaining the so-called stimuli involves more risks than benefits, but also knows that eliminating them could make the eurozone deck of cards collapse. Despite the massive injection of liquidity, he knows that he can not disguise political risks such as the secessionist coup in Catalonia. The Ibex reflects this, making it clear that the European Central Bank does not print prosperity, it only puts a floor to valuations.”

    “Risks are relevant. This week I had the opportunity to speak at the Federal Reserve Bank of Houston and I explained that the ECB repurchase program exceeds net sovereign bond issuances in the eurozone by more than seven times. Throughout the US QE (quantitative expansion) of the Federal Reserve, it never reached 100% of net issuances. Now that the ECB “reduces” these repurchases to 30 billion euros per month, it will continue to be more than 100% of net issuances.”

    “Ask yourself a question. Would you buy bonds from a heavily indebted state that has stopped its reform impulse with a 10-year yield of less than 2%, if the ECB did not buy them back? Exactly. No. With more than 8 trillion dollars of bonds with negative yields, the risk of a bubble is huge, because it would lead to large nominal and real losses in thousands of pension plans that only invest in low risk fixed income assets. The interest expense savings that many states boast of, has been largely at the expense of pensioners and savers. The ECB has fallen into its own trap because now it cannot be rigorous with the limit that it established in the absence of a healthy secondary market at these prices.”

  48. Davy on Fri, 10th Nov 2017 5:59 am 

    More traps

    “Perpetual Notes – China’s New Way To Hide Debt (Call It Equity)”

    “Perhaps sensing that nobody in the Middle Kingdom was paying attention, we noted two days ago his lengthy essay published on the PBoC website. It contained another warning that latent risks are accumulating in the Chinese system, including some that are “hidden, complex, contagious and hazardous.” He also highlighted “debt finance disguised as equity” as a concern. Talking of which, there’s a new growth market in the gargantuan Chinese corporate debt market – we are referring to perpetual notes. Are you ready for the clever part about perpetual notes – they are debt but it’s permissible under Chinese accounting regulations to classify them as “equity” – et voila, corporate gearing has fallen. According to Bloomberg. Under pressure to trim borrowings, China’s companies have found a way to reduce their lofty debt burdens — even if some of the risk remains. Sales of perpetual notes – long-dated securities that can be listed as equity rather than debt on balance sheets given that in theory they could never mature — have soared to a record this year as Beijing zeros in on leverage and the threat it poses to the financial system. The bonds are so popular that issuance by non-bank firms has jumped to the equivalent of 433 billion yuan ($65 billion), more than seven times sales by companies in the U.S. “Chinese issuers love perpetual bonds because they are under great pressure to deleverage,” said Wang Ying, a senior director at Fitch Ratings in Shanghai. “Sophisticated investors should do their homework and shouldn’t be misled by the numbers in accounting books.”

  49. Cloggie on Fri, 10th Nov 2017 6:13 am 

    Poor Davy wants to eat his cake and have it too. Not going to happen. Davy, boat and Siss want to close their borders, as if their opinion cares in oligarch dictatorship USA and continue to call everybody a “nazi” who wants to close his borders too.

    “many here admit you are an intellectually compromised Nazi and spread hate and disinformation on what it means to be human. ”

    Only the empire cheerleaders like you and boat and self-described commie Siss. But the empire is running out of steam and so is the dollar. Prepare yourself for a hard landing and subsequent crash of the empire. And you deserve a hard time after the immense suffering you caused worldwide as of 1917.


  50. makati1 on Fri, 10th Nov 2017 6:40 am 

    Cloggie, Americans support their plundering. murdering government, so they all deserve what is coming. I just read that the government is actually flying many Puerto Ricans to the US. I bet most stay … on the welfare roles, of course. The Us is going down, no matter how much some here deny it.

    Of course, the deniers will, well deny it as ‘false news’.

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