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Saudi Writer Was Killed and Dismembered in Istanbul Consulate by Hit Squad Deployed by Saudi Leadership

Top Saudi leaders deployed a 15-man hit squad to lie in wait for dissident writer Jamal Khashoggi inside Riyadh’s consulate in Istanbul, The New York Times said in an explosive story.

Among the assassination team was a forensic expert who brought a bone saw to dismember Khashoggi’s body after killing him, the Times reported on Tuesday, citing an unidentified “senior official” as saying.

Al Jazeera could not immediately verify the news report.

The hit squad finished the murder operation within two hours and departed Turkey for various countries, said the Times’ source, citing information from “top Turkish officials”.

“It is like Pulp Fiction,” the senior Turkish official was quoted as saying, referring to the graphically violent 1994 Hollywood movie by director Quentin Tarantino.

Accusations the Saudi leadership directly ordered the alleged assassination of Khashoggi will put further pressure on the United States and other allies to demand a transparent investigation, with possible serious repercussions to bilateral relations if it does not come to fruition.

Saudi officials have denied any involvement in Khashoggi’s disappearance and alleged murder, saying he left the consulate on October 2. Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has demanded that Riyadh prove his departure from the building.

The Turkish government hasn’t provided formal evidence that could back up the spate of anonymous allegations that the Saudi writer was killed inside the Istanbul consulate.

Daily Sabah, a Turkish newspaper with close ties to the government, named and published photos on Tuesday of the alleged 15-member Saudi assassination team accused of travelling to Istanbul on the day Khashoggi disappeared. The suspects are wanted by Turkish authorities for questioning.

‘Explaining to do’

American Senator Bob Corker, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said on Tuesday that “everything today points to” Khashoggi’s murder last week inside the Saudi consulate.

Corker told The Daily Beast his view was reaffirmed after viewing classified intelligence about the disappearance.

“It points to the idea that whatever has happened to him, the Saudis – I mean, they’ve got some explaining to do,” Corker was quoted as saying.

Al Jazeera’s Patty Culhane, reporting from Washington, DC, said the deluge of news reports will increase pressure on the US government to act.

“This was a prominent American columnist who is beloved among a small group of the intelligence elite in Washington, DC, and they are speaking out. This story is making front-page news. It is being greeted by a sense of outrage, and that is only growing as each story reveals new information,” she said.

‘Lay hands on him’

Meanwhile on Tuesday, the Washington Post – for whom Khashoggi wrote columns after fleeing Saudi Arabia over fears of retribution for his critical commentary – reported that US intelligence had intercepted communications of Saudi officials planning to abduct the prominent journalist.

“Saudis wanted to lure Khashoggi back to Saudi Arabia and lay hands on him there,” the Post quoted a person familiar with the information as saying.

It was not clear whether the Saudis intended to arrest and interrogate Khashoggi or to kill him – or if the US warned Khashoggi he was a target, the source told the newspaper.

Khashoggi entered the consulate on October 2 to handle a routine paperwork issue but he never came out, according to family and friends, as well as Turkish authorities.

WATCH

US steps up pressure on Saudi Arabia over Khashoggi disappearance

The US resident has written articles over the past year during his self-imposed exile that were critical of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

Khashoggi, 59, has had a long career as a senior journalist in Saudi Arabia and also as an adviser to top officials.

Powerful crown prince

But since the emergence of bin Salman, 33, as the centre of power in the kingdom last year, Khashoggi has been openly critical of the monarchy.

He assailed the prince’s reforms as hollow, accusing him of introducing a new Saudi era of “fear, intimidation, arrests and public shaming”.

Robert Pearson, a former US ambassador to Turkey, said the case could change the relationship between the US and Saudi Arabia.

“They must give a transparent explanation very quickly, otherwise the tide will quickly turn against them. It’s now been a week and nothing has been shown to prove about his (Khashoggi’s) safety,” he told Al Jazeera.

He noted 47 US senators recently voted to ban US arms sales to Saudi Arabia – four short of a majority.

“It is beginning to reach a genuine crisis point now, which can be solved very quickly if the Saudis are really on the spot,” said Pearson.

“The arms sales bill, the war in Yemen – those are the kinds of things that can turn very quickly into a political statement that will damage Saudi’s relationship with the United States, and damage Saudi’s reputation worldwide.”

al jazeera



86 Comments on "Saudi Writer Was Killed and Dismembered in Istanbul Consulate by Hit Squad Deployed by Saudi Leadership"

  1. Here we go again on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 9:14 am 

    No better than their Uncle Sam….after all

  2. Anontarded1 on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 9:30 am 

    yeah this guy is still alive and since when do people trust turkey anyways? they’re strong on allahland there

  3. JuanP on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 9:46 am 

    The US, Israeli, and Saudi governments are the three largest terrorist institutions in the world. This should not surprise anyone; it is par for the course.

  4. Anontarded1 on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 10:08 am 

    yeah junatard you kinda ignoring all the killings of opositions by “muh putin”

  5. mohammed bin fuckface on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 10:19 am 

    Imagine the chorus of condemnation that would be sung by Trump, May, Netanyahu, and mohammed bin fuckface if a journalist had gone missing from an Iranian embassy.
    I hope mohammed bin fuckface hangs by the neck ASAP.

  6. Sissyfuss on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 10:24 am 

    ” It is like Pulp Fiction.” No, I would say it’s more like Reservoir Dogs. Another Tarantino bloodfest.

  7. Richard Guenette on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 11:24 am 

    My sincerest condolences goes out to the victim’s family. This journalist was no criminal. I hope that more journalists from around the world continue to expose the Saudi Royal Family.

  8. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 11:32 am 

    Romney calls family separations ‘dark chapter’ in US history

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news-campaigns/410708-romney-calls-family-separations-dark-chapter-in-us?amp&__twitter_impression=true

  9. Cloggie on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 2:19 pm 

    I’m amazed that the NYT is putting a strain on the essential imperial relationship USA-KSA-Israel.

  10. Anonymouse1 on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 3:09 pm 

    In other news, PO.coms comment section was killed and dismembered by a two man (autistic) shit squad deployed by George Soros.

    Or inspired by him at any rate, right nederyid\exceptionaltard?

  11. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 3:15 pm 

    IEA’s Birol Says Expensive Energy Is Back

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2018-10-09/iea-s-birol-says-expensive-energy-is-back-video

    Peak oil zombie is back! Call up Heiny and Kunt! We are getting the 08 band back together!

  12. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 3:25 pm 

    125 year old Sears, once the world’s biggest retailer, now faces bankruptcy

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/125-year-old-sears-file-bankruptcy-report-n918446

  13. Cloggie on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 3:37 pm 

    “IEA’s Birol Says Expensive Energy Is Back”

    Order your turnkey windpark in Europe now and avoid the rush.

  14. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 4:52 pm 

    Clogg

    He was talking about oil which can’t be produced by wind..You dimwit

  15. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 4:53 pm 

    Hillary Clinton: You ‘cannot be civil’ with Republicans, Democrats need to be ‘tougher’

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/10/09/hillary-clinton-cnn-interview/1578636002/

  16. Davy on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 5:59 pm 

    “China Has Already Lost This War…”
    https://tinyurl.com/ycre2njq

    “What was once the world’s fastest growing economy, destined to overtake the United States at any moment, is now poised, not simply to cool off, but to begin to shrink in size.”

    “China’s currency is in free fall. China’s foreign exchange reserves fell more than expected in September 2018 to a 14-month low as the yuan weakened against the dollar. China’s stock market is crashing. It has lost $2 trillion in value already this year. China, which overtook Japan as the second largest stock market in the world only a few years ago, has now officially fallen behind Japan. The losses show no signs of abating. Chinese investments in the US plummeted 92 per cent in the first nine months of 2018 from their peak two years ago. In New York, where Chinese money was once driving real estate prices through the roof, the Chinese are now selling and going home. In the second quarter of 2018 Chinese investors sold $1.29 billion worth of US commercial real estate. During the same time period, Chinese investors bought only $126.2 million of property, according to data firm Real Capital Analytics. This marked the first time that these investors were net sellers since 2008. Meanwhile, back home, China is on pace for a record year in corporate-bond defaults. Chinese companies have reneged on about $2.5 billion of public bond payments so far this year. As the economy downshifts and the threat of US tariffs hangs over everything, Chinese companies increasingly simply cannot pay their debt.”

    “Companies aren’t as eager to have production in China,” says Nathan Resnick, CEO of startup company Sourcify. “We run production runs in India, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Philippines and Mexico right now. Labor costs are actually more affordable outside of China, so for products like apparel where there is a lot of cut-and-sew labor, most companies are moving out of China anyway,” he says.”

    “China, which lives or dies based on exports cannot lose access to the American market and even begin to replace those sales elsewhere. There are on the other hand an almost endless number of other locations other than China, including the United States, to which manufacturers can move their factories and shift production. China was already seeing the beginnings of this shift before the trade war began. The confrontation with the United States simply intensified the trend.”

    “Chinese influence around the world, heavily dependent on the availability of funds to invest, will decline precipitously. Chinese plans for massive defense spending will be still born. Outposts in the South China Sea once taken as harbingers of relentless expansion will instead stand as high-water marks for a nation facing the harsh reality of economic contraction.”

  17. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 6:14 pm 

    Davy

    Nobody reads your fringe links or cares what you think..Please stop wasting space with your fake news..You are an unsophisticated moron..

  18. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 6:16 pm 

    Davy

    You want to believe China is going to lose the trade war..Here are some facts for you, since I know you are the most ignorant on this board.

    China has not had a recession in over 25 years..And has not grown below 6% a quarter..

    You are so fucking dumb..You actually think Trump is doing something good..

  19. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 6:18 pm 

    Davy

    China was barely a statistical rounding error in 1978, with less than 1 percent of global trade, China rose to become in 2013 the world’s leading trading nation with almost a quarter of its annual flows. Nothing on this scale or speed has been witnessed before in history. Since 1970, Asia’s per capita incomes have increased fivefold. Even in Africa, the world’s worst performing continent, incomes have almost doubled. The west’s median income, meanwhile, has barely shifted in the last half century.

    In arguing for China’s entry to the World Trade Organization, Bill Clinton, the then US president, said globalization was ‘the economic equivalent of a force of nature, like wind or water’. In addition, he argued that China’s entry would reduce America’s bilateral trade defect by binding China to lower tariff rates on its imports. Following China’s WTO accession in 2001, America’s trade defect with China has leapt almost five fold. It is clear, in retrospect, that Beijing had better grasp of the global economy’s dynamics than Washington.

    In terms of purchasing power parity – measured by what you can buy in the local currency – China economy surpassed the US in 2014. Within a decade, give or take a few years, China will overtake America on more conventional dollar measures. By 2050 – a century after its communist revolution – China’s economy is likely to be twice the size of America’s and larger than all the Western economies combined. And by then, even India’s economy will be roughly the same size as America’s.

    Edward Luce
    The Retreat of Western Liberalism
    Atlantic Monthly Press, New York, 2017

  20. Davy on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 6:26 pm 

    you have any links to reference? slop? Your whining means little because like others here you are intellectually irrelevant.

  21. makati1 on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 7:10 pm 

    MOB, Davy is a sinophobe. He foams at the mouth when anyone points out that China is growing and the US is contracting. He still refuses to even consider that the US is being taken down deliberately from within and China is the new world leader.

    sinophobe: One who fears or hates the Chinese . WIKI

  22. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 7:48 pm 

    Davy

    China hasn’t had a recession since 1976..They have gone 40 years straight sailing..

    Source: World Bank
    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG?locati&locations=CN

    Maybe if you weren’t such an imbred farmer you could have looked this up yourself..

  23. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 10th Oct 2018 8:13 pm 

    Fed’s Kaplan sees risk of higher oil prices ahead

    Dallas Fed President Robert Kaplan said Tuesday he sees a risk of higher oil prices in coming years as U.S. shale production may not be able to meet global demand.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-kaplan-sees-risk-of-higher-oil-prices-ahead-2018-10-09?link=MW_latest_news

  24. deadly on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 1:04 am 

    The Dow Jones lost 831 points yesterday, Hurricane Michael ripped through the Gulf and made landfall, and all anybody talks about is some journalist who got shot and dismembered for being a messenger.

    Don’t those Saudis have better things to do?

    What’s this world coming to?

  25. Davy on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 5:35 am 

    “MOB, Davy is a sinophobe.”

    I am reporting the news and China is in it and for the most part China’s situation is not reported here. It is usually bad news on the US by extremist with an agenda. Tell me how smart that is? It isn’t and this is why people like you, billy, and not very intelligent and instead shallow. You are binary about east and west. That is what matters to you not the not the truth. Actually with you billy, it is a personality issue. You likely had a failed life in the US and now spend your days in hate and resentment. You will die a bitter old man. MOB is all about liberal and conservative which is very dumb because the world is so much more than politics. Both of you are all about yourselves and how smart you think you are. I know what happens in China affects the world more than any other country except maybe the US. What I am seeing is economically China’s effect is more important than the US now because it is a credit and growth driver. So you can whine and moan but I will be posting China articles whenever I can to keep this board fluent in current economics. If this upsets you billy, well that is a plus because you are a disgusting individual. MOB is just as bad or maybe even worse because he is a lewd and perverted kid.

  26. Davy on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 5:45 am 

    “China hasn’t had a recession since 1976..They have gone 40 years straight sailing..”

    Typical binary response out of a kid who has no clue about economics. For the MOB it is about better number low or high he does not understand. I posted an article without comment for review. You decide to make it into a point of view good or bad instead of the news on what will be ahead because of it. Your stupid response about no recession since 1976 show how little you understand about economics. Anyone that understands the issues knows this is precisely the problem. China has built up structural problems for decades without correction. Recessions are good when they happen as part of the economic cycle. If they are allowed to happen properly they cleanse the economy of bad debt and mal investment. This is the reason china is so messed up. Malinvestment is everywhere. Their financial system is overloaded with bad debt and nonperforming loans. Collateral has been rehypothecated many times making many loans naked to default for creditors. Recession when they are shallow and regular clean the system up. They enforce rationality over exuberance, greed, and irrational policy. You wouldn’t know that because you got your fake PHD in your head. MOB, you are a fraud and almost every one of your comments is part of your fraudulence.

  27. peakyeast on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 7:36 am 

    I read most links that people refer to and Davys here is just as relevant as many others.
    Thanks Davy for bringing it here.

    Chinas economy – as well as the world economy is about as sustainable as a rocket launch in an endless gravity well.

  28. Anontarded1 on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 7:47 am 

    peaky(pbuh swt), supertard (pbuh swt) is a moderate. he brings good info.

    guys, al baghdadi is ordering killing of his followers, why is alt-tard media silent?

  29. joe on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 10:01 am 

    Stupid Saudis, they should have just sprayed Novachok on they guys letter box, then stand there looking dumb when everybody could see what they did. Cause nobody has done that yet…..

    Anyway, look out for the whitewash and eventual burial of this story. Journalists have a very risky job. Especially if they cover corruption and criminals. So it kinda makes sense that the Saudi government would kill him. It also means that they are close to the end if they must go to such extremes to get people. Maybe it’s time for a new Shariff of Mecca.

  30. Davy on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 10:53 am 

    Joe, journalist are corrupt and criminal. So criminals watching criminals???

  31. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 11:25 am 

    Look at energy, not money.

    The financial system will be manipulated until energy shortages hit..

  32. Davy on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 11:43 am 

    Wow, that was bright. Nothing like a one liner to explain the whole picture. Anymore wisdom for us slob? Lol.

  33. Yorchichan on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 12:58 pm 

    MOB

    Look at energy, not money.

    The financial system will be manipulated until energy shortages hit.

    Our current financial system is predicated on an ever increasing use of energy. You can see how the financial system is now struggling merely because the use of energy is no longer increasing rapidly enough. Once energy use stops increasing (and I agree with you that day is not far away), it’s game over for the financial system. No amount of manipulation will save it.

    Whether a new financial system can be quickly substituted after this one collapses, or whether we’ll all die following a short period of martial law, I don’t know. An attempt at the continuation of trade after financial collapse is a certainty, because many people are not going to just give up and die. But can governments pull it off? It must be clear to even the dumbest of the elite that financial collapse is coming, so I assume the elite have plans we are not a party to.

  34. Davy on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 1:22 pm 

    Our current energy system is predicated on continued financial health. The two aspects of the human system go hand and hand together. Neither can be separated out as more important in regards to the other. Peak oilers get lost in their energy meme and want a simple explanation for the dangers ahead. These systems are not simple and nor the collapse process.

  35. Sissyfuss on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 6:07 pm 

    Davy, this journalist was not corrupt. A good friend of Chris Hedges he had the temerity to criticize the human rights record of the Saudis. And Trump doesn’t want to do anything to anger them after an American journalist was murdered by our wonderful allies. It stinks from top to bottom.

  36. makati1 on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 6:24 pm 

    Trump has to kiss the Saudi ass or they will switch to Yuan and kill the US economy.

    “Oh! What a Tangled Web We Weave/When First We Practice to Deceive!” – Sir Walter Scott

    The Us is always trying to deceive everyone with lies and distractions. The results are coming home soon.

  37. Theedrich on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 9:56 pm 

    Yankeeland is the world’s &#x2116 1 merchant of death.  On Tuesday, 2018 Oct 2, a legally registered American resident alien, Jamal Khashoggi, a Washington Post columnist of Arabian provenance who wrote against the current regime in SandNegroLand, reportedly walked into a Saudi Consulate in Istanbul (Constantinople) to get a document for his wedding, and came out literally in pieces.  According to both Turkish authorities and the Washington Post, Saudi henchmen, including head forensic medic Salah Muhammad al-Tubaiqi, interrogated, tortured, murdered and then bone-sawed the critical columnis into pieces, transporting his body parts thence out in a black Mercedes van to the Saudi consul’s residence.

    On Wednesday, 2018 Oct 10, during an interview with President Trump, Shannon Bream of Fox News asked him whether in view of the apparent murder he would suspend the sale of American weaponry to Araby.  This sale had also been objected to by 47 U.S. senators because of the Saudis’ obvious war crimes in slaughtering innocent Yemeni civilians in the kingdom’s conflict with Yemen.  The Prez answered that whatever happened was still unverified, but that, in any case, we still needed to go through with the sale because many American defense workers depended on it for their jobs.

    The following morning (Thursday, 2018 Oct 11), following the President’s signing of a “Save Our Seas” bill in the White House, a reporter asked POTUS the same question as Bream had.  In answer, he reconfirmed the fact that he was going to go through with the sale of military equipment to the Saudis, justifying it with the statement that it was worth $110 billion and would support many American jobs.  He mentioned en passant that, if the report of the nastiness turned out to be true, his government would arrange “something,” but that in no case would he stop the deal.

    Because in America money is the most important thing in the world.

  38. Theedrich on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 9:58 pm 

    That’s № 1.

  39. Cloggie on Thu, 11th Oct 2018 10:14 pm 

    “Davy, this journalist was not corrupt. A good friend of Chris Hedges he had the temerity to criticize the human rights record of the Saudis. And Trump doesn’t want to do anything to anger them after an American journalist was murdered by our wonderful allies. It stinks from top to bottom.”

    It’s called Raison d’État, national interest.

    “Jamal Khashoggi” wasn’t American btw.
    Perhaps in your book.
    You know the saying: “if everybody is an American, noboy is an American”… and ‘poof’ sez your country, before you can say ‘Hitler’.

  40. Sissyfuss on Fri, 12th Oct 2018 9:02 am 

    Revisionist, your hackneyed,altright but wrong piss poor postulations are as dead wrong as your boy Adolph. No amount of dialogue can move your consciousness a nanometer off its preposterous perch. You’re right and everyone that disagrees with has to be identified as incompetent to relieve your threatened persona. It is your brand of superiority that will lead us to war and destruction just as your hero did decades ago. And you will enjoy it because that is the nature of the narcissist, of which you are a textbook example.

  41. Anontarded1 on Fri, 12th Oct 2018 9:20 am 

    guys please listen to sis (pbuh swt), he has direct line to uppertards who maintain this site. he can haz u banned in a sex.

  42. joe on Fri, 12th Oct 2018 10:22 am 

    The law of diminishing returns is apparently in action in the US/Saudi relationship. Turkey took an unusual step of publishing the images and names of the men is says were involved they also announced the existence of audio which can show he was killed and chopped up. However the most explosive part of this whole thing is at the end (and this is how stories get buried), the US intelligence was aware of a plan to lure this guy to Saudi turf.
    Jeff Bezos will not be happy Trump let one of his employees get executed. CNN has already pulled out of the Vision 2030 relaunch. This has already cost Saudi very dearly.

    “https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/12/recordings-prove-jamal-khashoggi-killed-turkish-investigators-claim”

  43. Cloggie on Fri, 12th Oct 2018 4:16 pm 

    “Revisionist, your hackneyed,altright but wrong piss poor postulations are as dead wrong as your boy Adolph. No amount of dialogue can move your consciousness a nanometer off its preposterous perch. You’re right and everyone that disagrees with has to be identified as incompetent to relieve your threatened persona.”

    Like Davy, Siss will NEVER engage in a real debat, the best sign they have no arguments.

    Read this:

    http://sam.gov.tr/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Perceptions_Summer2016-4.pdf

    It goes much further than anything I have brought forward here over the past years.

    When the fog of victors propaganda will have disappeared, everything will turn into its opposite.

  44. Davy on Fri, 12th Oct 2018 4:25 pm 

    “Like Davy, Siss will NEVER engage in a real debat”

    no need to debate an extremist revisionist. Better just to moderate your most egregious lies with a good neutering.

  45. Richard Guenette on Fri, 12th Oct 2018 5:05 pm 

    Makati1, your comments are well-informed.

  46. Free Speech Forum on Fri, 12th Oct 2018 7:47 pm 

    Does anyone get the feeling that the Uniparty has been bought off by the elites?

  47. Cloggie on Sat, 13th Oct 2018 12:25 am 

    “no need to debate an extremist revisionist. Better just to moderate your most egregious lies with a good neutering.”

    Intellectual gnoom, loser and compulsory liar. You have no arguments, you “moderate” and “neuter” nothing. You and Siss cowardly run from real debate because you both know you would lose it. You and Siss represent the present day largest mass-murdering machine on the planet, but don’t want to have that true.

    The truth will eventually be pressed in your face like a cream pie that has been lying in the sun for six weeks… “after the break”, when you have to face the ruin of your society after decades of mass immigration of hostile foreigners, that millimind, soros and streisand will use as a weapon against you.

    https://youtu.be/kNrj87Q-4Yk

  48. makati1 on Sat, 13th Oct 2018 2:23 am 

    Richard, I try to present the real world as I see it. I have no delusions about the US or the place I now live. The future is going to be bumpy and painful everywhere, but more so in the places with the most to lose. The pain is already being felt in the US or there would not be so much chaos.

    I have come to understand the One World goal and it necessitates taking down the Us and much of the West to a level closer to that of China and, maybe, India. That is a radical thought and seems to be denied by most Americas. Too bad. Their loss.

  49. Davy on Sat, 13th Oct 2018 4:59 am 

    “Makati1, your comments are well-informed.”

    Of course gregt is going to say that billy and you love to read these things.

  50. Davy on Sat, 13th Oct 2018 5:04 am 

    “Intellectual gnoom, loser and compulsory liar.”

    translation: neder’s moderation is extremely effective and because of the neutering of so many distortions and revisions the neder resorts to name calling. For me when extremist call me names, use socks, or steal my handle this is a compliment. It means mission accomplished. These fruit cakes can’t debate the real issues so they resort to social media games.

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