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Saudi Arabia Still Unsure of Launch Site for Oil Attacks

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Saudi Arabia said attacks on its critical oil infrastructure were “unquestionably sponsored by Iran” but stopped short of saying the strikes were launched directly from or by the Islamic Republic, claims that could have propelled a drift toward war.

With parts of drones and missiles recovered from the attack sites at Abqaiq and Khurais on display, Saudi Defense Ministry spokesman Turki al-Maliki on Wednesday showed maps aimed at proving the strikes originated from the north and could not have been launched by Yemen’s Iranian-backed Houthi rebels, who shortly after repeated their claims of responsibility.

“Despite Iran’s effort to make it appear so,” the attack didn’t originate from Yemen, Maliki said. “Data analysis of the attack sites indicate weapons of Iranian origin.”

Iran has denied it was involved in the worst attack in Saudi Arabia’s history and President Hassan Rouhani said earlier Wednesday that his country did not want war.

The Saudi defense official’s comments, and moves by the U.S., suggested the two allies were also working to deescalate tensions in the region. President Donald Trump, who had initially declared the U.S. “locked and loaded” for a response, said Wednesday he was tightening sanctions on Iran.

Iran’s economy is already under severe pressure from existing sanctions, though analysts said there were still a number of potential targets for restrictions. Iran is gradually scaling back its commitments under the deal and has said it will not reopen talks without sanctions relief.

Speaking just before landing in Saudi Arabia, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo — while broadly echoing Maliki’s claims on Iranian involvement — signaled he was working to build international diplomatic pressure to deter Iran.

Twenty-five pilotless aircraft and cruise missiles were used to attack the two sites, Maliki told reporters gathered in Riyadh. The weapons were of Iranian origin but Saudi Arabia was still working to pinpoint the exact launch point, he said. The range and accuracy of the weapons were beyond the capabilities of the Houthis, he added.

In comments made immediately after the Saudi briefing, Yemen’s Houthi military spokesman Yehya Saree said some of the drones used were new, with a range of up to 1,700 kilometers, and were launched from three different points inside Yemen. He said the drones fired long-range missiles and warned the United Arab Emirates that it could be also be targeted. The U.A.E. said weeks ago that it was drawing down its role in the Yemen war after four years.

Maliki displayed surveillance video purporting to show drones moving in a north to south direction, however. He said Saudi Arabia was working to share the information with United Nations experts.

“We are working as I mentioned to determine the exact position of the launch point,” Maliki said. “Whether it’s been launched from Yemen, launched from somewhere else, those people they will be held accountable, and this is a decision at a political level in our country.”

Addressing a cabinet meeting, Rouhani said the assault on the oil facilities was carried out by the Houthis retaliating against Saudi Arabia’s military campaign in their country and should serve as a “warning and lesson,” according to state TV.

Iran backs the Houthis, one of several militias it supports around the region, from Lebanon to Iraq. The confrontation has sporadically convulsed the Gulf, with the strikes on oil tankers, an American drone and a key pipeline, pushing the region to the brink of open conflict.

The U.S. and its Gulf allies “assumed the Iranians would take the maximum pressure without any significant reaction,” said David Roberts, an assistant professor at King’s College London who studies the Gulf. “They’ve all been completely blindsided by the potent nature of the Iranian response.”

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49 Comments on "Saudi Arabia Still Unsure of Launch Site for Oil Attacks"

  1. Theedrich on Wed, 18th Sep 2019 8:20 pm 

    No freebies for the land of the freebies.  Yankeeland thinks it is immune from blowback to its mass murders and the starvation techniques it calls “sanctions.”  Now it turns out that it may be risking not just a little oil, but global chaos and worse.  The infantilism and arrogance of the home of the knave are slouching toward consequences whose seriousness is still not recognized by the demigods of DC.  The Empire currently shells out half a $trillion/year to reimburse narcotraffickers for their goodies, and an estimated 400,000 Americans have died from overdoses in the period 1999-2018.  No wonder the masses demand the Communist regime the Democrats are promising.  Meanwhile the elites (when they are not engaged in pedophilia and similar entertainment) insist that the U.S. must impose its way of life on the rest of the world.

    Yet a ThirdWorld country with a few airborne weapons has now made manifest just how brittle the entire world system is today.  Not that this will restrain the potentates of Washington.  They will not recognize their own cancer until after America is dead.

  2. The Truth Shall Set You Free on Wed, 18th Sep 2019 8:50 pm 

    ” The Empire currently shells out half a $trillion/year to reimburse narcotraffickers for their goodies, and an estimated 400,000 Americans have died from overdoses in the period 1999-2018.”

    ++++Explain this reimbursement scheme and cite a source for the 400,000 number.++++

  3. Cloggie on Wed, 18th Sep 2019 10:02 pm 

    Therdrich was too “optimistic”:

    “Drug overdose deaths continue to increase in the United States. From 1999 to 2017, more than 702,000 people have died from a drug overdose. In 2017, more than 70,000 people died from drug overdoses, making it a leading cause of injury-related death in the United States.”

    https://www.cdc.gov/opioids/index.html

    That’s more than Amsterdam.

    In Holland it is 235/year or scaled up to the US (1:20): 4700.

    In the EU (500 million) it is 8200:

    http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/news/2019/latest-update-on-drug-related-deaths-and-mortality-in-europe_en

    All in all a factor of ca. 15 lower.

  4. The Truth Shall Set You Free on Wed, 18th Sep 2019 11:35 pm 

    What’s your point CloggJude? From 1999 to 2017, 880,000 people have died from alcohol. An estimated 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women8) die from alcohol-related causes annually.

    Source: NIH

  5. The Truth Shall Set You Free on Wed, 18th Sep 2019 11:46 pm 

    CloggJude,

    Your antiquated thinking is what’s killing the world. You and Theedrich have been thoroughly conditioned to perpetuate the failed war on drugs- the longest and most expensive war in US history.

    Unfortunately, the only way things will change is when those old people stuck in the past die off.

  6. makati1 on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 12:00 am 

    Some stats:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/americans-spent-nearly-150-billion-illegal-drugs-last-year

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jan/09/how-the-heroin-trade-explains-the-us-uk-failure-in-afghanistan

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/a-conspiracy-theory-that-became-a-conspiracy-fact-the-cia-afghanistans-poppy-fields-and-americas-growing-heroin-epidemic/5533673

    “Fox News had a segment with Geraldo Rivera that shows how the U.S. government (in this case, the U.S. Marines) is involved in Afghanistan’s heroin production with Washington’s approval of course.

    Watch Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgKmJESBFsw

    “Illegal Drugs Cause 250,000 Global Deaths Yearly, Report Finds” (2013)

    https://www.livescience.com/36068-worldwide-illegal-drug-deaths.html

    Interesting that I could not find any drug info newer than 2013. i wonder why?

  7. Bloomer on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 12:28 am 

    Truth…it really doesn’t matter if slightly more North Americans chose to poison themselves with alcohol or drugs. Deaths of despair are still rising. Particularly in white men. Learning how to be working poor and without hope is an adjustment. The brass ring is becoming unattaintable as the elites have stacked the deck against all lower income working people and have eroded the middle class.

  8. Chrome Mags on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 1:06 am 

    “Saudi Arabia said attacks on its critical oil infrastructure were “unquestionably sponsored by Iran” but stopped short of saying the strikes were launched directly from or by the Islamic Republic, claims that could have propelled a drift toward war.”

    Let’s say Iran does financially support Yemen’s military against the Saudi’s, including the recent drone attacks. Is that reason to begin a war against Iran?

    During the Vietnam war, Russia helped supply North Vietnam with arms, but the US never declared war on Russia for their involvement, so why would it be different with Iran?

  9. Cloggie on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 1:24 am 

    “What’s your point Cloggmeister, sir”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/aug/15/drug-poisoning-deaths-in-england-and-wales-at-highest-level-ever-recorded

    4400 in the UK.

    Rough estimate comparative numbers

    US – 15
    UK – 4
    EU – 1

    My point is that I see these numbers as an indicator of public health, or an indicator of public desperation if you will. Or an answer to the question of who will be “the last man standing”.

  10. makati1 on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 1:44 am 

    Chrome, the US is the world’s number one hypocrite.

    I wonder whose manufacturing name is on the weapons used by the Saudis? Why ‘Made in the USA’ of course! Not to mention most of the ISIS weapons, al qaeda, etc.

    You cannot tell me that there is not proof of who did the deed with surveillance able to see a face from satellites. Could have even been a false flag by the Saudis.

  11. makati1 on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 1:55 am 

    Cloggie, the US is a very sick country.

    “The National Center for Health Statistics estimates there were 68,557 drug overdose deaths in 2018. An estimated 47,590 involved opioids, and 31,897 involved synthetic opioids, such as fentanyl and tramadol.Jul 17, 2019”

    “Suicide was the tenth leading cause of death overall in the United States, claiming the lives of over 47,000 people.” (2017)

    “U.S. Life Expectancy Drops for Third Year in a Row, Reflecting Rising Drug Overdoses, Suicides”

    “Spending on illicit drugs in US nears $150 billion annually
    Amount rivals what Americans spend on alcohol.”

    Amerikans are dying, along with their country.

  12. Cloggie on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 2:02 am 

    “Amerikans are dying, along with their country.”

    I think a rebirth is possible, after empire and after splitting the US up in say 5 smaller countries and getting rid of the Washington swamp.

  13. Cloggie on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 2:05 am 

    “Could have even been a false flag by the Saudis.”

    Or Israel, in coordination with KSA. They both have the perfect motive: sicking the 600 pound US gorilla against Iran.

  14. Theedrich on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 2:18 am 

    Cloggie is correct, and Truthie is a stoner.  The U.S. is built on false premisses and a Constitutional suicide pact. One of the primary causes of the American revolution was popular rage against a tax on rum that the English had imposed on the colonies to pay off the debts of the French and Indian War.  Death by reality-blocking alcohol has always been a part of the American absurdity;  modern narcotics are now added to alcohol as a faster route to the same abyss.  Today, as it grows heroin in Afghanistan, Washington is covertly trying to wage Opium Wars against the entire planet, starting with the U.S. itself followed by European civilization.  This can easily be seen by looking at AmeriJew-produced films and TV, in effect the American schoolroom.

    The Limeys destroyed the entire Chinese economy with those wars in the nineteenth century, and now China is returning the favor against the Anglo world.  Truthie aims to help the mass suicide.  Are you getting paid by Sörös, Truthie?

  15. Cloggie on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 2:25 am 

    Soft-Brexit newspaper DailyMail showing signs of remorse for the Brexit drama:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7479513/George-Osborne-says-EU-referendum-never-taken-place.html

    “George Osborne says EU referendum should never have taken place and blasts David Cameron for ‘feeding the idea’ that ‘Brussels was to blame’”

    Today a UK ex-pm will testify in court against the sitting pm about Brexit:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7480587/Sir-John-Major-compare-Boris-Johnson-dishonest-estate-agent-Supreme-Court-today.html

    “Sir John Major will compare Boris Johnson to a dishonest estate agent when he tells Supreme Court today that the Prime Minister acted unlawfully and had ‘ulterior motives’ for proroguing Parliament”

    For the record, I hope and think that Brexit will proceed in order to initiate the break-up and termination of the 1945-West/empire and reconstitute European civilization around Paris-Berlin-Moscow and those Anglos who feel European are welcome to join the club.

    The 2nd and final blow will probably be dealt in the SCS and/or Gulf and/or stepping down of DJT, just like in 1991 the Moscow communists made a last desperate attempt to grab power after Gorbachev was toppled, before Jelzin jumped on a tank and took control of Russia (backed by the US).

  16. makati1 on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 4:04 am 

    Truth, those “old people” remember when the US was a great country. It passed its “sell by” date long ago. Now it is a fascist police state headed for the 3rd world, or worse.

  17. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 4:54 am 

    And the Philippines? My, oh, my. The country is grossly overpopulated. The river systems are used to flush human sewage and plastic pollution into the ocean. More than 93% percent of the original tropical forests and mangroves in the Philippines have been cleared. A staggering 95% of the coral reefs in the Philippines are classified as dead or dying. Based on current trends, in 20 years time the once expansive coral reefs will all be gone. The current population of 109 million is growing steadily by 1.5 million a year with a population forecast of 145 million by 2050. In 1980, the Philippines population was 47 million.
    Extra judicial killings are commonplace as roving para-military groups roam the urban centers in search of victims.

  18. fuckturd juanPaulturd on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:00 am 

    ID theft and socks
    What a stupid life of fact personalities and cyber bullying

    Davy said And the Philippines? My, oh, my. The country is gr…
    The Truth Shall Set You Free said CloggJude, Your antiquated thinking is what’…
    supremacist muzzie jerk said Hey supertard SAWS PBUH are you allowing comments…
    MODS supremacist muzzie jerk said Muzzies should get off forum and report To amputat…
    The Truth Shall Set You Free said What’s your point CloggJude? From 1999 to 20…
    MODS supremacist muzzie jerk said What do muzzies doing on this forum They should be…

  19. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:02 am 

    Davy ID theft by JuanP

    Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 4:54 am

  20. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:04 am 

    MODS, please insitute these small changes tot he forum to rid the forum of JuanP sock puppets and ID Theft

    “https://browserspy.dk/webserver.php
    and fill in peakoil.com, you get that the server is hosted by Cloudflare:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare
    Cloudflare is one of the last bastions of free speech, under lefties also known as “hate speech”. It is very sad that the admin of this site doesn’t seem to want to take the trouble to log in to his server dashboard and active a few presets, enforcing posters to post under a unique username/password combination. That doesn’t eliminate garbage under fake identities, but at least it stops identity theft and that would make a hell of a difference. If possible, you could also enforce that one IP-address can only post under a single identity. Please admin, invest an hour of your time to get this right.”

  21. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:24 am 

    “US Utility-Scale Solar Pipeline Tops 37.9 Gigawatts”
    https://tinyurl.com/y4hdrze8 clean technica

    “The United States solar industry now boasts the largest pipeline of utility-scale solar projects in history with a record 37.9 gigawatts (GW) of contracted solar, according to the latest figures from Wood Mackenzie Power & Renewables and the Solar Energy Industries Association…Corporate procurement has served to bolster the solar industry’s growth with several utilities announcing large solar procurements and corporate off-takers such as Starbucks, Microsoft, and Anheuser-Busch announcing major contracts. According to the report, off-site corporate solar procurement now represents 17% of the new utility-scale solar capacity announced in 2019. “As more companies commit to 100% renewable power, corporate offsite procurement is expected to drive more than 20% of new utility-scale capacity additions from 2019 through 2024,” said Colin Smith, senior solar analyst with Wood Mackenzie. “Cities, states and utilities are already following through on their renewable energy and zero carbon commitments. We’re starting to see procurement occur and expect even more RPS-driven procurement in the near- to mid-term.” Looking forward, Wood Mackenzie is now forecasting a 17% year-over-year growth in 2019 in the United States with 12.6 GW of installations expected to be completed by year’s end.”

  22. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:29 am 

    “A Marine Heat Wave Intensifies, with Risks for Wildlife, Hurricanes and California Wildfires”
    https://tinyurl.com/y42ntndr faster than expected

    “SNIP: An intensifying marine heat wave in the northeastern Pacific Ocean has triggered government warnings about harm to salmon and other fisheries along the U.S. West Coast, and it’s raising concerns about hurricane risks to the Hawaiian islands and wildfire risks in California. The current marine heat wave covers a horseshoe-shaped area about the size of Alaska. It extends from the Gulf of Alaska down the coast of Western North America and westward to Hawaii. In the warmest areas, sea surface temperatures have reached about 5.4 degrees Fahrenheit above average. Marine heat waves occur when sea surface temperatures in part of the ocean rise and stay above the expected seasonal temperatures for at least five days in a row. Scientists say these heat waves are forming more frequently, and they suspect that shifts in winds and ocean currents driven by global warming are a big part of the cause.”

  23. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:44 am 

    “90 Per Cent of Plastic Waste Polluting Earth’s Oceans Comes From Asia and Africa”
    https://tinyurl.com/y4qouarc summit

    “Despite westerners being lectured by climate activists like Greta Thunberg, a study has found that around 90 per cent of plastic waste polluting earth’s oceans comes from Asia and Africa. During her U.S. tour, Thunberg cited “horrifying pictures of plastic in the oceans,” as one of the primary reasons why Americans should listen to her. However, researchers at Germany’s Helmholtz Centre for Environmental Research discovered that a small number of rivers account for the vast majority of plastic pollution and none of them are located in western countries. “The 10 top-ranked rivers transport 88-95 percent of the global load into the sea,” Dr. Christian Schmidt, a hydrogeologist who led the study, told the Daily Mail. “The rivers with the highest estimated plastic loads are characterized by high population – for instance the Yangtze with over half a billion people.” Out of the top ten rivers that produce the most pollution, eight are in Asia and two are in Africa. The Yangtze River in China and the Ganges River in India were responsible for the most plastic pollution.”

  24. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:50 am 

    Thank goodness nobody listens to the mentally unstable.

  25. The Truth Shall Set You Free on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:56 am 

    “Truth…it really doesn’t matter if slightly more North Americans chose to poison themselves with alcohol or drugs.”

    No shit. That was exactly my point by stating, “So what’s your point clogged?” Second, since when is alcohol not considered a drug? More myth making perpetuated by differentiating the two.

  26. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 6:00 am 

    JuanP ID theft
    Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:50 am

    JuanP sock puppet
    The Truth Shall Set You Free on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 5:56 am

  27. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 6:19 am 

    Just in case any of y’all mentally unstable dumbasses forgot, I’m hear to remind y’all.

    I am spending less time on this lame unmoderated forum to concentrate on my own blog. I do want to thank all those who have attacked me with giving me material for growth. I have saved the best of my comments for my new blog. I have years worth of material. I have enjoyed moderating the worst of you and neutering your selfish useless agendas. I will still be here it is just I will be spending more time putting out a blog. I don’t expect much of a following with my blog. This is more a personal effort to assemble what I have learned over the last 10 years of formulating my REAL Green Deep Adaptation. Many of my ideas and lifestyles are not mine. I barrow what ever works. I do not claim anything either. It is an open source effort. Anyone can take what I am offering and use it however you want. Take my title if you like. For the stalkers here I hope you find my blog and visit the comment forum. It will be only lightly moderated to prevent juanpee identity theft and excessive cloggo spamming. LOL. There will be a prize for juanpee and annoymouse if you can stalk my blog. Double LOL. Anyway fuck my enemies and many thanks to those who contributed to my metamorphous.

    I guess I could have joined the moderated section at PO dot com, but I knew I’d get my ass permanently banned. I’ll try not to let the door smack me up the backside on the way out.
    Goodbye to ALL of you dumbasses.

  28. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 6:49 am 

    JuanP ID theft

    Davy said Just in case any of y’all mentally unstable dumbas…

  29. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 6:50 am 

    “Secret Service Wants Jet Skis For Mar-a-Lago & Hamptons As Trump Family “Very Active In Water””
    https://tinyurl.com/yy7s8rty ZeroIQ

    “A Secret Service memo has requested the need for jet skis to protect President Trump’s family and friends — while at vacation properties at President Trump’s exclusive south Florida Mar-a-Lago Club and other properties in the Hamptons. “

    “The memo said the agency needs two jet skis and a trailer to “enhance safety/security for protective assignments on the water.””

    “The agency has requested two Kawaski jet skis that retail for more than $10,000 per unit. The request noted security challenges that special agents face while traveling to President Trump’s golf courses and resorts. ”

  30. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 6:55 am 

    Exceptional comments by Master Theedrich above. Saved to my notes so I can copy and paste them both in there entirety on my own blog that I’m concentrating on so diligently.

  31. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:00 am 

    I AM NOT MENTALLY UNSTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  32. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:05 am 

    JuanP ID theft

    Davy said I AM NOT MENTALLY UNSTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Davy said Exceptional comments by Master Theedrich above. Sa…
    Davy said “Secret Service Wants Jet Skis For Mar-a-Lago &…

  33. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:05 am 

    ok

    maybe just a little bit

  34. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:06 am 

    JuanP ID theft

    Davy said ok maybe just a little bit

  35. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:07 am 

    JuanPaultard, give us some of your muzzie stuff that you are so proud oF. That is a great example of your GED education.

  36. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:23 am 

    I think I might of made JuanPaultard up, but I’m not real sure anymore. It’s all so confusing to me now, but I’M NOT FUCKING MENTALLY UNSTABLE!

  37. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:30 am 

    Oops,sorry everyone. I forgot.

    dumbasses

  38. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:33 am 

    JuanP ID theft

    Davy said Oops,sorry everyone. I forgot. dumbasses
    Davy said I think I might of made JuanPaultard up, but I’m n…

  39. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:36 am 

    MODS, do something about juanP and his many ID thefts and sock puppeteering for the betterment of the forum

    “https://browserspy.dk/webserver.php
    and fill in peakoil.com, you get that the server is hosted by Cloudflare:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare
    Cloudflare is one of the last bastions of free speech. It is very sad that the admin of this site doesn’t seem to want to take the trouble to log in to his server dashboard and active a few presets, enforcing posters to post under a unique username/password combination. That doesn’t eliminate garbage under fake identities, but at least it stops identity theft and that would make a hell of a difference. If possible, you could also enforce that one IP-address can only post under a single identity. Please admin, invest an hour of your time to get this right.”

  40. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:44 am 

    It just doawned on me, If this lame unmoderated forum is unmoderated, than who in Jebusses name are the MODS?

  41. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:46 am 

    I’m so not sure any more.

  42. MODS on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 7:51 am 

    Davy, please do everyone a favor. Concentrate on your own blog.

  43. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 8:22 am 

    JuanP ID theft

    MODS said Davy, please do everyone a favor. Concentrate on y…
    Davy said I’m so not sure any more.
    Davy said It just doawned on me, If this lame unmoderated fo…
    Davy said Did I mention I am spending less time on this lame…
    Davy said Did I mention I am spending less time on this lame…

  44. Davy on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 8:23 am 

    MODS Please make these changes to improve the forum:

    “https://browserspy.dk/webserver.php
    and fill in peakoil.com, you get that the server is hosted by Cloudflare:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare
    Cloudflare is one of the last bastions of free speech. It is very sad that the admin of this site doesn’t seem to want to take the trouble to log in to his server dashboard and active a few presets, enforcing posters to post under a unique username/password combination. That doesn’t eliminate garbage under fake identities, but at least it stops identity theft and that would make a hell of a difference. If possible, you could also enforce that one IP-address can only post under a single identity. Please admin, invest an hour of your time to get this right.”

  45. Cloggie on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 9:18 am 

    OMG, Brexit and no end:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-deadline-irish-backstop-no-deal-stephen-barclay-october-a9111756.html

    “UK ‘cannot meet’ EU deadline for Brexit plan and needs another year, government says”

    October 31, “do or die”

    LOL

  46. Sissyfuss on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 9:21 am 

    OT, with all the surveillance technology and military hardware sold to the Saudis plus the US presence of naval ships and the satellite data they are telling us they haven’t conclusively derived the origination of the drone/missile bombardment. Please, tell us another one.

  47. Cloggie on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 10:18 am 

    Of course they have.
    But (geo)politics is about power and propaganda, not the truth.

  48. Attn: All on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 10:20 am 

    ATTENTION ALL,

    Davy’s various attempts to convince all that he’s really not mentally unstable are totally unconvincing.

    Those of us who have been around for the last couple of years remember his phony claims of emotional damage due to being sent to a “rubber room” for bad behavior while attending prep school.

    TRUTH BUSTED

  49. MODS on Thu, 19th Sep 2019 10:28 am 

    Who is this MODS persona you keep whining to Davy?

    dumbass

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