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Russian Troops Reportedly Descend On Venezuela To Help Protect Maduro’s Regime

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Russia has reportedly sent a contingent of shadowy private military contractors to Venezuela to help President Nicolás Maduro fend off a challenge to his authority from the President of the country’s National Assembly, Juan Guaido. It’s unclear what their exact orders might be, but whether they’re in the country to protect Maduro himself, assist government security forces, stymy a U.S. military intervention, or something else, these mercenaries only add an additional layer of complexity to the still-evolving crisis.

On Jan. 25, 2019, Reuters reported that individuals linked to the now infamous Russian private military company Wagner were in Venezuela. The story cited Yevgeny Shabayev, the head of the Khovrino Cossack organization, who has his own background as a soldier of fortune and routinely speaks to the international press about Russian mercenary activities, as well as anonymous sources.

Cossack organizations in Russia are quasi-official, semi-autonomous bodies of Slavic peoples that have historically contributed armed personnel to serve in wars and as internal security forces at the direction of the government in Moscow. Many of these groups continue this tradition today to varying degrees, sending individuals to fight on behalf of pro-Russian interests in conflicts in Chechnya, Georgia, and Ukraine.

“Our people are there directly for his protection,” Shabayev told Reuters, adding that the mercenaries were there specifically to prevent rogue members of Venezuela’s security forces from detaining Maduro. He also claimed that Wagner had around 400 individuals in the country.

Radio Svoboda capture

A screen grab from an interview Yevgeny Shabayev gave Radio Svoboda, a Russian language news service that is part of the U.S.-government operated Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, in 2018.

After being in the grips of a devastating economic crisis for years, Venezuela plunged into an all-new period of upheaval on Jan. 23, 2019, when President of the National Assembly Guaido declared himself Interim President of the entire country and quickly received recognition from the United States, Canada, and a number of countries in Latin America. Maduro, who has long accused the U.S. government of plotting his overthrow without providing any hard evidence, has refused to step aside and still commands the loyalty of the vast majority of the country’s military and national police.

In addition, Maduro has called for U.S. diplomats and their staff to leave by tomorrow, Jan. 26, 2019. The United States has ordered nonessential diplomatic personnel to leave the country, but has refused to shut down its Embassy and other facilities entirely, arguing that Guaido is the country’s legitimate leader and has asked the U.S. government to stay. An emergency United National Security Council meeting on the issue is scheduled for tomorrow.

AP Photo/Rodrigo Abd

A caravan of US government vehicles leaves Simon Bolivar International Airport in Caracas after dropping off nonessential US diplomatic staff, who took a commercial flight back to the United States without incident on Jan. 25, 2019.

The Wagner mercenaries had already begun arriving earlier in the week before this standoff emerged, according to Shabayev. Other sources who spoke to Reuters said that the total number of contractors was far smaller than Shabayev’s estimate and that they had arrived in multiple groups, including one that only touched down “recently.” These individuals also did not confirm that these personnel were guarding Maduro.

Maduro’s regime is a major regional ally of Russia’s and publicly available information shows a relatively steady stream of Russian government and Russian-registered aircraft flying to and from the country since the beginning of December 2018. Reuters reported that two Russian Air Force aircraft, an Antonov An-124 and an Il-76, had been in Venezuela between Dec. 10 and Dec. 14 and that another Il-76 had been in the country between Dec. 12 and 21, but these are almost certainly unrelated to the deployment of any Russian mercenaries.

Russia sent a pair of Tu-160 Blackjack heavy bombers to Venezuela between Dec. 10 and Dec. 14 with supporting personnel and equipment on board an An-124 and an Il-62 airliner. The report of an Il-76 during this timeframe may be a mistaken reference to the Il-62. The other reported Il-76 in the country around the same time could have been supporting that mission or otherwise delivering Russian-made weapons and other military equipment to the Venezuelan government as part of existing contracts.

More to the point, it would be unusual for the Russia military to so visibly deployment of members of Wanger. This group, and others like it, exist specifically to give the Kremlin a plausibly deniable means of intervening in sensitive conflicts. Russia exploited these murky links and very promptly disavowed a group of Wagner mercenaries after the U.S. military killed hundreds of them in a skirmish in northeastern Syrian in February 2018.

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A chart showing various Russian private military companies, including Wagner, as well as the Cossack organizations, all of which have ties to the Russian government and have been involved in numerous proxy conflicts.

Reuters’ own sources said that the contractors used chartered aircraft to take them from unspecified locations where they had been conducting operations to the Cuban capital Havana. There they boarded commercial flights bound for Caracas.

That’s not to say that the Kremlin isn’t directly involved in their deployment or that they haven’t been potentially overseeing their activities closely. On Jan. 23, 2019, a Russian government Il-96-300 belonging to the country’s Special Flight Detachment also appeared in Havana after taking a somewhat circuitous route from Dakar, Senegal via Asunción, Paraguay.

Russia’s Special Flight Detachment also operates the specially configured Il-96-300PUs that fly President Vladimir Putin around and a similar in form and function to the U.S. Air Force’s VC-25A Air Force One presidential aircraft. The reason for the plane’s trip to Cuba or stops before arriving in Havana are unclear. Paraguay has recognized Guaido and Senegal has not publicly announced its support for either Venezuelan leader.

It could potentially have something to do with the movement of Wagner personnel from Africa to Venezuela. In March 2018, there were images and reports that the group was training personnel or otherwise conducting operations in Central Africa Republic (CAR). Two months later, images appeared showing what appeared to be the same personnel near that country’s border with Sudan.

Then, in December 2018, purported Wagner mercenaries appeared on the streets of the Sudanese capital Khartoum, reportedly to help put down massive protests against the government there. Both CAR and Sudan are essentially on the other side of the continent from Senegal, but that country could still have served as an intermediate stop for any individuals heading toward Venezuela.

So far, no photos or video of any Russian mercenaries in Venezuela have appeared online that might help confirm their presence in the country and the scope of their deployment. But it would make good sense and be in line with the Kremlin’s increasing use of groups such as Wagner as a low-cost, readily deniable force for supporting its partners overseas without serious risk of becoming embroiled directly in any particular conflict. These proxies have become a cornerstone of Russia’s so-called “hybrid warfare” tactics.

Mercenaries linked to the Russian government have bolstered pro-Russian separatist groups in Georgia and Ukraine, helped prop up Syrian dictator Bashar Al Assad when his regime was at its most fragile, and more recently helped Sudanese strongman Omar Al Bashir in trying to quell major nationwide protests. Venezuela’s Maduro is one of Russia’s few major allies in Latin America and it is certainly in the Kremlin’s interests to keep him in power.

Even just giving Maduro a more reliable security detail, as Shabayev said was the case when talking to Reuters, could be important. He was the target of an assassination attempt using explosive-carrying drones in August 2018. There were reports that some Venezuelan security forces had sided with anti-government protesters or otherwise abandoned their posts in the days leading up to Guaido’s announcement that he was assuming the role of Interim President.

There remains no clear indication that the U.S. military is planning to intervene in the crisis, or even deploy forces to provide additional security at the American embassy in Caracas or other diplomatic sites. Still, it seems hard to believe that there has been no crisis response planning or movement of forces into position to better respond to various contingencies already.

A U.S. Air Force C-17A Globemaster III transport, using the callsign Reach 543, was visible using online flight tracking software making a highly unusual trip from Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia area into the Carribean on Jan. 24, 2019. It disappeared from radar before reaching its final destination, but was seen heading back to the continental United States just hours later.

Norfolk is home to one of the U.S. Marine Corps’ Fleet Antiterrorism Security Teams, a crisis response unit also known as a FAST Company. There are two more FAST Companies at the nearby Naval Weapons Station Yorktown in Yorktown, Virginia. Marine FAST elements regularly deploy overseas to bolster security at American embassies and other diplomatic facilities, as necessary. There is a major U.S. Navy SEAL presence at Dam Neck in Virginia, which is also close by.

USMC

A FAST Company Marine stands guard during a training exercise.

Regardless, the presence of Russian contractors could change the risk calculus for any such operation. They could also present a deterrent to any potential U.S. government plan to try to more forcefully eject Maduro from power.

Maduro’s Russian benefactors could have sent the mercenaries to guard the Venezuelan leader for fear that he may be increasingly at risk of ending up like the late former Panamanian President Manuel Noriega. In 1989, the United States launched Operation Just Cause into Panama to oust Noriega after a protracted crisis that has many similarities to the present situation Venezuela, including a disputed election.

The murder of an off-duty U.S. Marine by Panamanian forces at a roadblock and the decision by Panamanian authorities to detain and abuse a U.S. Navy lieutenant and his wife, incidents that both occurred on Dec. 16, 1989, helped provide additional justification for the invasion two days later. There is a risk of similarly dangerous alternations in Venezuela now if Maduro orders government security forces to remove the remaining Americans from the Embassy in Caracas or any other diplomatic facilities.

In the ensuing operation in Panama more than 30 years ago, American special operations forces rushed to detain Noriega. Noriega initially evaded capture by fleeing to the Vatican embassy in Panama City, where he endured 10 days of American psychological warfare tactics before finally surrendering on Jan. 3, 1990.

Russia could also use the mercenaries as a way of testing the waters for their own larger, overt military deployment on behalf of Maduro, similar to its use of “Little Green Men” ahead of taking over Ukraine’s Crimea region in 2014. As noted, Russia has a vested interest in keeping its ally in power in Venezuela. After the deployment of Tu-160 bombers to the country in December 2018 there was a report that Venezuelan authorities had offered the Kremlin a more permanent basing deal.

This would give the Russian an unprecedented ability to challenge the United States in its own hemisphere, the implications of which you can read more about here. Having a formal base in the country could only provide Russia a more permanent foothold to help support Maduro’s regime in the future. Sending the bombers to the country in the first place was a very visible signal of continued Russian support for the government in Caracas.

Still, if Reuters’ report is accurate, Russia’s active involvement in the crisis seems relatively limited in size and scope for the moment. But, at the same time, we’re only three days into the confrontation between Maduro and Guaido and their respective domestic and international supporters and neither side appears to be inclined to back down.

Whether any Kremlin-linked mercenaries that are actually in Venezuela turn out to be key to ensuring Maduro remains in power or are a prelude to a larger Russian intervention remains to be seen.

the drive



50 Comments on "Russian Troops Reportedly Descend On Venezuela To Help Protect Maduro’s Regime"

  1. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 8:23 am 

    You know it is bad when Maduro can’t even trust his own military for personal security. This is high stakes for Russia and China that stand to take a sizable haircut for a poor economic and political strategy. Putin is likely making a poor policy decision here. This is not a civil war like Syria where fault lines can be exploited. This is a failed state going down. This error may cost him political clout in the aftermath. It is obvious the people are fed up and Maduro is unable to change this situation even with Chinese and Russian support. The military is barely on his side and all it will take is the reality of a fall for the military to fold behind the opposition. A few hundred Russians are just going to ensure Maduro gets out of Venezuela safely. The people will make this decision and this decision is coming soon.

  2. JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 8:24 am 

    I agree Davy. Almost all of South America is behind Maduro going.

  3. Sissyfuss on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 10:02 am 

    Venezuela could be the next Viet Nam, with the Russians and the US testing out their latest gear. China is the wildcard.

  4. Cloggie on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 10:04 am 

    Americans in Ukraine and Russians/Chinese in Venezuela.

    I’ll scratch your backyard if you scratch mine.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/world/americas/venezuela-news-maduro-russia.html

    Venezuelan army apparently still backs Maduro, quite a significant little factoid as any former Egyptian president, now in jail, can confirm.

    Venezuela is still the country with the largest oil reserves in the world, albeit of inferior quality.

    I mean, WW3 has to start somewhere.

  5. Truth Buster on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 10:17 am 

    Good Morning Sunshine Davy,

    How’s your little ebony twink friend doing, Pablo? You remember. You passed out in Forest Park in St. Louis while trolling for male tricks. To get up the courage you told us how you consumed a quart of Ripple in 10 minutes. When you woke, Pablo was painting your toenails. I hope you have thanked Pablo for saving you from being rolled. You could have very well ended up in North St. Louis or East St. Louis butt naked.

    Please tell those of us who care how living together as a couple is working out. Any age issues considering you’re a 60 year old and Pablo’s 17? Sugar daddy in exchange for pleasures of the flesh?

    ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE & SPECIAL.

  6. Truth Buster is pervert JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 10:46 am 

    Wow, what a sexual deviant juanP is. His wife reads his posts also so man, what a dirty girl she must be.

  7. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 10:48 am 

    “I mean, WW3 has to start somewhere.”

    You can’t wait can you!! Too bad it may boomerang into your backyard.

  8. JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 10:55 am 

    “Cocaine And Cash: How Maduro Stays In Power “Cocaine, Payola” reads the headline of a new Bloomberg report detailing why and how Venezuela’s top military brass will likely remain loyal, at least for the near term, to the Nicolas Maduro regime. As intense international pressure led by the United States builds aiming to topple Maduro in favor of “interim president” Juan Guaido — and as what’s now an “open secret” of Washington’s direct attempts at fostering a military coup — a key question is just how cohesive and loyal will the military remain. it is unlikely that the government will fall without the army changing its loyalty from the top down. While the lower ranks of the Venezuelan army attempt to survive on what amounts to $10 a month, the generals remain fiercely loyal as they live large on personal criminal fiefdoms granted by Maduro in the form of “narco-state” perks ranging from drug-running, contracts for hundreds of social housing projects, overseeing ports, money laundering, to fraud. Per the Bloomberg report: Vladimir Padrino is Venezuela’s defense minister. Gerardo Rangel is a major general in the army. Nestor Reverol is a former National Guard commander who oversees the Interior and Justice Ministry. They are also, according to the U.S. Treasury, drug runners and graft-schemers who operate within the criminal enterprise that is the Nicolas Maduro regime.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-25/cocaine-and-cash-how-maduro-stays-power

  9. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:10 am 

    We never would have screwed over Venezuela if they didn’t have oil.

  10. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:16 am 

    Bloomberg is a mouthpiece for the US ZOG Juan.

  11. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:33 am 

    Where do you think the US opioid crisis originated from Juan?

    I’ll give you a clue.

    We didn’t invade Afghanistan in order to find Osama Bin Laden’s command center, and we sure as hell don’t give a shit about Afghani women’s rights and freedoms.

  12. Identity pervert JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:41 am 

    Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:10 am
    Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:16 am
    Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:33 am

  13. JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:47 am 

    “His wife reads his posts.”

    Davy, dear, at least I have a wife. We already know all about your domestic affairs.

    Wonder what the deplorables in the Ozarks think of your “alternative” living arrangement?

  14. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:57 am 

    Flushed a covey!!

    That got you to show your ugliness

    I live a real life unlike your disgusting playboy life you pretend in Miami Beach.

    Get help JuanP. I know you have been triggered since July but get over it pussy. Man up with some nuts.

  15. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:58 am 

    Murdering Latin American socialists and installing fascist governments across the region is a bipartisan issue. Liberals and conservatives both have a long history of supporting it.

  16. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:58 am 

    “Watch Live: Yellow Vests Rage For 11th Straight Week; Organizers Plan Night Rallies, Human Chain Of 50,000”
    https://tinyurl.com/ybwaalsh

    “France’s Yellow Vests are out again en masse – taking to the streets of Paris and other cities across the country for the 11th straight week of anti-government protests despite rainy conditions.”

  17. JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 12:01 pm 

    “Venezuela crisis: Maduro given ultimatum by European leaders Spain, Germany, France and the UK have warned Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro that he must call elections within eight days – or they will officially recognise the opposition.”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47014322

  18. Boney Joe on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 12:02 pm 

    good find juan

  19. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 12:14 pm 

    “Russia, China, India, & Iran: The Magic Quadrant That Is Changing The World”
    https://tinyurl.com/y7mb7rxn

    “At the height of the US unipolar moment, Bill Clinton was leading a country in full economic recovery and the strategists at the Pentagon were drawing up plans to shape the world in their own image and likeness. The undeclared goal was regime change in all countries with unapproved political systems, which would allow for the proliferation of us-made “democracy” to the four corners of the earth. Clearly Eurasian countries like Russia, India, China and Iran were on top of the to-do list, as were countries in the Middle East and North Africa.”

    “Soon there will be a breaking point, not so much militarily (as the nuclear MAD doctrine is still valid) but rather economically. Of course the spark will come from changing the denomination in which oil is sold, namely the US dollar.”

    “China is increasingly clashing with Washington; Russia is increasingly influential in OPEC; and India may finally decide to embrace the Eurasian revolution by forming an impenetrable strategic square against Washington, which will shift the balance of global power to the East after more than 500 years of domination by the West.”

  20. JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 12:18 pm 

    Good find Davy

  21. Cloggie on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 12:24 pm 

    Soros gone nuts, seeks trouble with Trump, Xi and Putin:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-26/china-responds-george-soros

    Good luck George, but we just cancelled your life insurance.

  22. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 12:29 pm 

    Thanks Juan. I take great pride in being fair and balanced.

  23. JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 1:19 pm 

    Davy, did I tell you I have an advanced GED education? I am beach smart too.

  24. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 1:37 pm 

    Juan, did I tell you that mommy and daddy bought me the best education money can buy, but money can’t fix stupid?

  25. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 2:23 pm 

    Clogg

    Russia denies allying with Iran, says Israel’s security a ‘top priority’
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-denies-allying-with-iran-says-israels-security-a-top-priority/

    Putin has Israels back! He does what he is told!

    LOL

  26. JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 2:25 pm 

    I am back, bitches! I just got back from a surfing vacation in Costa Rica. I am recharged and refreshed, and ready to continue fucking with the Exceptionalist and his multiple personalities for the foreseeable future.

  27. Cloggie on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 2:59 pm 

    Italian government attacks Dutch government for allowing human trafficking with Dutch ships:

    https://www.geenstijl.nl/5145976/salvini-grijpt-rutte-bij-ballen-inzake-seawatch/

    Salvini rocks!

  28. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 3:19 pm 

    NY daily news mocks Trump as “Cave Man”

    https://i.imgur.com/BwSPCg5.jpg

    Pelosi has Trump by the balls..And Mueller has Stone now..

    LOL

  29. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 3:20 pm 

    Clogg

    Salvini is an anti vaxxer..And his country will bankrupt soon..I glad they enjoy the migrants from Libya!

    LOL

  30. Cloggie on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 3:35 pm 

    “Pelosi has Trump by the balls..And Mueller has Stone now..
    LOL”

    Pullosi and Trump can be trusted to together turn the state of the union in a ruin, to the delight of the world.
    LOL

  31. Anonymouse on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 3:36 pm 

    Juan, dumbass, you have told us about your surfing trip maybe 20 times. Give it a rest.

  32. Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 3:48 pm 

    That was me Anonymouse, obv. JuanP hasn’t made a single post in days.

  33. dissident on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 3:52 pm 

    If there were Russian troops in Venezuela the USA would be having an apoplectic fit.

    Maduro is a loser and waste of space, but that does not give the USA any authority (moral or legal) to appoint some “opposition leader” as the head of state.

    Maybe Russia should find some opposition leader in the USA and declare them the true president. But that would be violating due process wouldn’t it. Keep your noses out of Venezuela exceptionalistanis.

    BTW, the USA was openly recruiting the Soviet underworld to enable regime change in the USSR. The USA has been openly allied with Al Qaeda in Syria and only pretending to fight Daesh (ISIS) which was gaining control over most of Syria until Russia showed up and helped the Syrians kick their a**es. You can bet your last penny that the USA has been involved in all the criminal strife in Venezuela designed to create shortages and discontent.

    Maduro should grow a spine and haul the US appointed clown before the courts for high treason. Acting as an agent of a foreign power is the definition of high treason. No amount of whinging about who should have won the election removes this fact. And most Venezuelans would rather have something than nothing, like they had during the good old days of the 1990s.

  34. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 4:17 pm 

    3 men get at least 25 years in prison in Kansas plot to kill Somali migrants

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/26/us/kansas-somali-bomb-plot/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29

    These guys were going to blow up an apartment that rented to immigrants..And then they were going to rape the wife and daughter of the owner. So other apartment owners wouldnt rent to immigrants..They wanted to “Wake people up”

    This is where deluded white nationalism takes you.

  35. Identity theft pervert JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 4:17 pm 

    Davy on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 3:48 pm

  36. More Davy Sock Puppetry on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 5:59 pm 

    Identity theft pervert JuanP on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 4:17 pm

  37. juanpee sock puppet on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 6:05 pm 

    More Davy Sock Puppetry on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 5:59 pm

  38. makati1 on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 6:05 pm 

    Juan, stop this madness, please

  39. twocats on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 6:17 pm 

    sooo annoying. anyway…

    Venezuela – I’m probably the lone voice in support of Maduro and elected government. But I’ll make a fair compromise – I’ll support new elections in Venezuela (keep in mind they JUST HELD ELECTIONS!!!!), but I’ll support new elections and international monitors in Venezuela…. wait for it…. if we have new elections and international monitors and international scrutiny of our congressional districts (democrat and republican) in the United States.

    How is Maduro any worse than the Republicans in this country? the Dems and Repubs are just as bad when it comes to third parties.

    bu,bu,bu,bu,but twocats you just defeated us with our own logic!!! Damn You!!!!

  40. JR on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:35 pm 

    So, no mention of the 700+ mercenaries in Florida to help enact the Venezuelan coup? Why not?

    The US needs to mind it’s own goddamned fucking business. End of story. What they’re doing is ILLEGAL.

  41. JR on Sat, 26th Jan 2019 11:36 pm 

    Seriously – WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THIS WEBSITE?

    The shit that gets posted here is straight out of the propaganda machine.

  42. Davy on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 2:13 am 

    Hi JR, what country are you from friend?

  43. JR on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 2:40 am 

    I am not your friend you fucking moron, and dont see how that is any of your business to begin with.

  44. Davy on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 4:29 am 

    JR, that was not me it was JuanP. JuanP decided in July of 2018 to make his whole time spent here on this forum as an attempt to censor me through harassment. This started under his handle and with sock puppets. In October he started taking my identity. This identity theft has been daily since. He occasionally steals others but primarily mine. He makes a comment that says something on rare occasions. I mentioned this only because you are either returning after being absent or new. I just started seeing your handle. I initially tried to document the identity theft and debate his socks. There are many of them. Later after a few months of this I decided to play his games of identity theft and sock puppets. I also attacked his friends that cheered him on. Now I have decided to take a break from this. I may go back to it but for now I am planning on just indicating identity theft and sock puppetry and give a daily report at the end of the day of his bad behavior. I am doing this to try to clean things up around here. Pure comments on topic and with debate are good. Putdowns are inevitable and fine if they are within an “on topic” debate. We are dealing with emotionally charged issues. This will be my new policy for now. This forum is about dead and taken over by a few narcissistic extremist and now we have JuanP who has taken the forum to a new low.

  45. Davy on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 4:55 am 

    “Venezuela – I’m probably the lone voice in support of Maduro and elected government.”
    The Maduro government is not legitimate and is now a danger to the Hemisphere and destroying his people. He is basically a corrupt narco-state bribing his military to stay in power. There is no due process of law or political respect. Russia is there to play geopolitical games as is China. China is mainly after the oil and is not there for the people. Business is business but China is basically engaging with a regime to prop them up and take oil in return with onerous arrangements. The reason these arrangements are onerous is the funds are going to corrupt ends and not being reinvested in the oil industry for the most part. The people are not a concern. The US has historically perpetrated bad behavior in South America. It has not acted wisely in Venezuela. It is now again going to meddle in the countries affairs but considering the Russo/Sino connection and the illegitimacy of the Maduro regime is this of great consequence? No, because there is an opposition that needs friends and support. Ideally free and fair elections with international monitors would be called for but this country is too far gone for that. It is likely this will turn into another civil war but likely not be drawn out like Syria. Venezuela is in its militaries hands. Maduro has them payed for currently but for how long? Venezuela is a very important country because of its oil reserves and strategic position in South America of course. This problem must be brought to a conclusion for all and especially many of its innocent people. I have known a few Venezuelans over the years. They are great people.

    “How is Maduro any worse than the Republicans in this country? the Dems and Repubs are just as bad when it comes to third parties.”
    My god Twocats, that statement shows just how bias you are. If you want to know how “just as bad” the Dems are read this:
    “Clinton’s 2016 Strategy Revealed: Overwhelm FBI With Trump-Russia Narrative Until Something Stuck”
    https://tinyurl.com/y95wr8fy
    Bitch all you like about ZH but this article slamed the Clinton crimes of the Democrats.

  46. Davy on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 5:22 am 

    JR, that was me. I decided in July of 2018 to make my whole time spent here on this forum as an attempt to censor posters who do not agree with my right-wing politics through harassment. This started under my handle and with sock puppets. In October I started taking others’ identity. This identity theft has been daily since. I occasionally steal others but primarily JuanP. I make a comment that says something on rare occasions. I mentioned this only because you are either returning after being absent or new. I just started seeing your handle. I initially tried to document the identity theft and debate my own socks. There are many of them. Later after a few months of this I decided to play games of identity theft and sock puppets. I also attacked those that cheered against me. Now I have decided to take a break from this. I may go back to it but for now I am planning on just indicating identity theft and sock puppetry and give a daily report at the end of the day of my bad behavior. I am doing this to try to clean things up around here. Pure comments on topic and with debate are good. Putdowns are inevitable and fine if they are within an “on topic” debate. We are dealing with emotionally charged issues. This will be my new policy for now. This forum is about dead and taken over by my narcissistic extremism and now I have taken the forum to a new low.

    JR, with this clarification, where might you be from, friend?

  47. JuanP identity theft on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 5:40 am 

    Davy on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 5:22 am

  48. Davy identity theft on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 6:29 am 

    Davy identity theft on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 5:40 am

  49. JuanP identity theft on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 6:41 am 

    Davy identity theft on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 6:29 am

    Davy identity theft on Sun, 27th Jan 2019 5:40 am

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    Acai fruit (pronounced Ah-Sigh-ee) is the hottest nutritional secret to be revealed to the modernized world. Harvested in the Amazon Rain Woods, from palms, the Acai berry berry has been used for centuries by local tribes.

    Recently, scientists learned that the very dark purple pigments in The acai berries contain anthocyanidins, anti-oxidants that contribute to their very high ORAC (oxygen-radical absorbance capacity) value. ORAC is a new description of antioxidant potential.

    Pertaining to years, it was assumed that blueberries had the highest ORAC value. We all have now know that Acai berries have 2 times the ORAC value of blueberries. Therefore, Acai can be considered the Smart Berry for Good Well being!
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