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OIL TANKER ‘TORPEDO’ ATTACKS IN HORMUZ USA BLAMES IRAN

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THE US said tonight that Iran was behind the “torpedo attack” on an American-linked oil tanker in the Gulf of Oman.

Both the Front Altair and the Panama-flagged Kokuka Courageous – which was reportedly bombed – burst into flames and were forced to evacuate in the troubled region this morning.

 A huge fire rages on board the Front Altair after it was reportedly hit by a torpedo in the Gulf of Oman

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A huge fire rages on board the Front Altair after it was reportedly hit by a torpedo in the Gulf of Oman
 The tanker was one of two ships attacked today sparking an evacuation of all crew members

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The tanker was one of two ships attacked today sparking an evacuation of all crew members
 An aerial picture showing the huge blaze raging on the oil tanker after the attack this morning

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An aerial picture showing the huge blaze raging on the oil tanker after the attack this morningCredit: AP:Associated Press

 


What we know so far:

  • Two oil tankers were seriously damaged in the suspected torpedo attack
  • It’s “highly likely Iran caused the attacks,” one US official has claimed
  • Almost 50 sailors had to be rescued from the stricken tankers in the Gulf
  • Oil prices surged by 3.5 per cent after today’s suspected terror attack
  • Iran’s foreign minister has branded the explosions as “suspicious”
  • The US Navy’s 5th Fleet is now investigating the suspected torpedo attack

And now, in comments bound to ignite tensions between the two countries, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo blamed Iran for the “blatant” attacks.

He said they were part of a “campaign” of “escalating tension” by Iran and a threat to international peace and security.

“It is the assessment of the United States government that the Islamic Republic of Iran is responsible for the attacks that occurred in the Gulf of Oman today,” Pompeo told reporters.

“This assessment is based on intelligence, the weapons used, the level of expertise needed to execute the operation, recent similar Iranian attacks on shipping, and the fact that no proxy group operating in the area has the resources and proficiency to act with such a high degree of sophistication.

“Taken as a whole, these unprovoked attacks present a clear threat to international peace and security,” he said.

Pompeo said the United States will defend its forces and interests in the region but gave no specifics about any plans and he took no questions.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo blames Iran for attacks on oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman in blast at the Islamic state

One US source dismissed the Islamic Republic’s earlier claim that they had rescued all the crew members from both ships branding the report “patently false.”

He said the USS Bainbridge had rescued 21 of the 44 stricken sailors involved in the incident near the Strait of Hormuz.

Earlier, Tehran’s news agency IRNA claimed Iranian search and rescue teams had taken all the crew members to the port of Jask.

The Panama-flagged Kokuka Courageous is believed to have been targeted by a magnetic mine causing a series of massive explosions on board.

Norwegian shipping firm Frontline, which owns the Altair, has denied Iranian reports that the tanker had sunk.

The ship was built in 2016 and is flagged to the Marshall Islands – a US associated state in the Pacific Ocean.

Chartered by Taiwan’s state oil refiner CPC Corp, the huge vessel set sail from the UAE port of Ruwais on Tuesday and was due to arrive in Kaohsiung on June 30.

Speaking to Reuters, the CEO of CPC’s petrochemical division Wu I-Fang said the tanker was “suspected of being hit by a torpedo.”

He said it was carrying 75,000 tonnes of naphtha, a petrochemical feedstock, which trade sources estimate to be worth more than $30 million.

Gulf of Oman attack- 23 oil tanker crew members filmed safe in Jask after suspected attack

Paolo d’Amico, chairman of the tanker association, Intertanko, said concern was rising for other crews braving the powder keg shipping lanes.

He said: “If the waters are becoming unsafe, the oil supply to the entire Western world could be at risk.”

It comes as tensions in the Persian Gulf between the United States and Iran are threatening to reach boiling point.

A Saudi-led coalition has described today’s attack as a “major escalation”.

In recent weeks, Washington has sent a number of battle ships to the region in response to what it says are Iranian threats against American interests and its allies in the region.

The Kokuka Courageous – which is owned by Japanese firm Kokuka Sangyohad – set sail from Al Jubail in Saudi Arabia on June 10 and was due to reach Singapore by June 22.

Oil prices rose by 3.5 per cent following news of the explosions, according to reports.

Iran’s foreign minister Mohammad Javad Zarif branded the explosions as “suspicious” calling them “reported attacks on Japan-related oil tankers.”

He said the incident had happened as Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei was meeting with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, a close American ally.

The US Navy’s 5th Fleet said it is aware of a “reported attack” in the area and is investigating.

A statement said: “US naval forces in the region received two separate distress calls at 6.12 am local time and a second one at 7.00 am.

“US Navy ships are in the area and are rendering assistance.”

 The incident reportedly happened in the Gulf of Oman this morning

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The incident reportedly happened in the Gulf of Oman this morning

Speaking about the attacks, White House spokesperson Sarah Sanders said: “The President has been briefed on the attack on ships in the Gulf of Oman.

“The US Government is providing assistance and will continue to assess the situation.”

The United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations, which is run by the British Navy, urged “extreme caution” and said it was investigating the incident.

“We are deeply concerned by reports of explosions and fires on vessels in the Gulf of Oman. We are in contact with local authorities and partners in the region.”

Authorities do not believe that any British nationals were on the two ships.

A UK Foreign Office spokesperson said: “We are deeply concerned by reports of explosions and fires on vessels in the Gulf of Oman. We are in contact with local authorities and partners in the region.”

This comes after the US claimed Iran used explosives to blow huge holes in four ships – including two Saudi oil tankers – anchored in the Persian Gulf last month.

The ships reportedly had ruptures measuring up to ten foot across  in their hulls as a result of the May 12 sabotage attacks.

Recent US and Iran tensions

  • May 5: USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group and a bomber task force is deployed in Middle East in response to ‘a number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings’ by Iran.
  • May 8: Iran vows to enrich its uranium stockpile if world powers fail to negotiate new terms for its nuclear deal. The US responds by imposing sanctions on Iran’s metals industry.
  • May 10: The US says it will move a Patriot missile battery into the Middle East to counter threats from Iran.
  • May 24: President Trump says the US will bolster its military presence in the Middle East with an additional 1,500 troops.
  • May 12: The UAE says four commercial ships off its eastern coast “were subjected to sabotage operations,” just hours after Iranian and Lebanese media outlets air false reports of explosions at a nearby Emirati port.
 Huge plumes of thick black smoke billow from the massive tanker in the Gulf of Oman following a suspected torpedo attack

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Huge plumes of thick black smoke billow from the massive tanker in the Gulf of Oman following a suspected torpedo attackCredit: AP:Associated Press
 One of the tankers on fire in the Gulf of Oman following the suspected torpedo attack

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One of the tankers on fire in the Gulf of Oman following the suspected torpedo attackCredit: AFP or licensors
 All the crew members of Front Altair have been rescued, a senior company official said

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All the crew members of Front Altair have been rescued, a senior company official said
 An unverified picture which claims to show one of the tankers in the Gulf of Oman on fire

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An unverified picture which claims to show one of the tankers in the Gulf of Oman on fire
 The Front Altair, from the US-linked Marshall Islands, was one of the ships reportedly attacked today near Iran

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The Front Altair, from the US-linked Marshall Islands, was one of the ships reportedly attacked today near IranCredit: Shipspotting.com

 

Two tankers: all you need to know

  • Front Altair was built in 2016 and is flagged to the Marshall Islands
  • It is owned by Norwegian company Frontline and is operated by Dubai-based International Tanker Management
  • The ship was carrying 75,000 tonnes of naphtha, a petrochemical product, worth $30m when it was attacked
  • It was carrying 23 crew members who were all rescued
  • The vessel can carry up to 62,849 tonnes of cargo
  • It weighs a staggering 109,894 tonnes
  • Kokuka Courageous was built in 2010 and is flagged to Panama
  • It is owned by Japanese firm Kokuka Sangyo and is operated by BSM Ship Management
  • The ship was carrying 25,000 tonnes of methanol when it was attacked
  • 21 sailors on board were rescued. One suffered minor injuries

They were targeted near the port of Fujairah in the United Arab Emirates – with one of the tankers due to be loaded with Saudi crude oil bound for the US.

A Washington-based official told the Associated Press that an American military team’s initial assessment indicated Iran or its allies used explosives to blow holes in the ships.

Iran strongly denies involvement in the attacks.

A huge US naval presence has built up in the Gulf over recent weeks amid a fevered standoff between Washington and Tehran.

US intelligence revealed Iran was on the verge of carrying out offensive action to disrupt and attack American and partner interests in the region.

It led to the deployment of US aircraft carriers, Patriot missiles and B52 bombers over recent days.

The general-secretary of the Gulf Cooperation Council described the sabotage as a “serious escalation” in an overnight statement.

Iran’s foreign ministry spokesman called the incidents near the coast of Fujairah on May 12 “worrisome and dreadful” and asked for an investigation into the matter.

US and Iran – a troubled history

  • Before the 1979 Iranian revolution, Iran was one of America’s biggest allies in the Middle East and was led by the US-backed Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi.
  • However, since the seismic revolt, Iran has been led by murderous Islamic fundamentalists and tensions with Washington have remained ever since.
  • On November 4, 1979, the Iranian regime took 52 US diplomats hostage in response to President Carter’s administration allowing Iran’s deposed former leader into America.
  • The hostage crisis lasted for 444 days and also included a failed rescue mission which cost the lives of eight US soldiers.
  • In April 1980, the US ended diplomatic relations with Iran – a break which lasted for more than 30 years.
  • In April 1983, Washington blamed the Iranian-funded terror group Hezbollah for carrying out a bombing attack on the American embassy in Beirut, Lebanon.
  • The assault, carried out amid a brutal civil war in Lebanon, killed 17 Americans.
  • In November of that year, two truck bombs in Beruit killed 241 US peace keepers. The US again blamed Hezbollah for the incident.
  • The Clinton White House, in 1995, placed a total embargo on Iran meaning US companies could not trade with the country.
  • And in 2002, George W Bush included the Islamic Republic in his famous “Axis of evil” speech along with North Korea and Iraq.
 The latest explosions in the region come after four ships were attacked with explosives last month in the Persian Gulf

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The latest explosions in the region come after four ships were attacked with explosives last month in the Persian GulfCredit: Reuters
 The United States deployed an additional warship to the Gulf

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The United States deployed an additional warship to the GulfCredit: AFP

What is the Iran nuclear deal?

The deal is an agreement between the Islamic Republic and a group of world powers aimed at scrapping the Middle Eastern country’s nuclear weapons programme.

It saw Iran agree to eliminate its stockpile of medium-enriched uranium by 98 per cent.

According to the deal, Iran would receive relief from the US, the European Union and the United Nations Security Council on all nuclear-related economic sanctions.

The agreement was reached on July 14, 2015, and was signed by world powers in Vienna, Austria.

However,  on May 8, 2018, President Trump announced the US would withdraw from the agreement – which he has repeatedly called “insane” and ridiculous”.

America’s withdrawal from the deal mean crippling economic sanctions will once again be placed on Iran – further heightening tensions between the two countries.

The Sun



38 Comments on "OIL TANKER ‘TORPEDO’ ATTACKS IN HORMUZ USA BLAMES IRAN"

  1. Sissyfuss on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 3:40 pm 

    This is getting realer by the day, if not for your choice of false flags.

  2. Cloggie on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 3:50 pm 

    The US never forgave that Persia managed to escape from empire. Russia, the same thing.

    Turkey is also preparing to leave the empire:

    https://www.rt.com/news/461784-turkey-rejects-us-ultimatum/

    And don’t count on continental Europe either:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/eu-army-trump-macron-france-europe-military-us-russia-china-defence-a8627176.html

    “Trump attacks Macron’s call for EU army to defend against US as ‘very insulting'”

  3. Theedrich on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 4:58 pm 

    Another false flag, this time by CIA+KSA+Israel.  Of course, Pompeo of the State Dept. claims that “we know” that Iran was the fiend that attacked tankers in the Gulf of Oman because “only” Iran has the capability, etc., etc. and, moreover, because of (that old standby) “secret intelligence” that “we cannot disclose,” so just believe us.

    In other words, more softening up of the American populace to get it ready for war.  The Sinking of the Maine, the Lusitania, the Pearl Harbor ensnarement of Nippon, Gulf of Tonkin — the U.S. government loves to use sea-based excuses to go to war.

    Just have faith in us, all you stooges.  You’ll love the excitement of another slaughter by American “heroes.”  We’ll have the whole thing filmed for your viewing pleasure as we commit another righteous genocide of a target population and wipe out another threat to “American interests.”  Just think:  no more boredom.

  4. Duncan Idaho on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 5:13 pm 

    Indicted congressman’s wife pleads guilty to corruption

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Wife-of-US-Rep-Hunter-to-change-plea-in-13973696.php

    As a repug, this is probably a career plus.

  5. Kevin Cobley on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 5:37 pm 

    Clearly not a “torpedo” any remotely modern torpedo would have broken the back of a large tanker, it would have immediately burned and sunk.
    It’s more likely an amateurish limpet mine.
    this isn’t the result of any Naval attack.
    This website has become impossible to access on Microsoft Edge.

  6. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 5:47 pm 

    TankerTrackers totally rejects the claim of a mine attack..

    https://imgur.com/a/4SdzTzM

  7. I AM THE MOB on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 5:48 pm 

    Theedrich

    Notice that nowadays they are telling lies every single day non stop?

    I think they just don’t care anymore, the mask is off and they don’t care..

  8. Robert Inget on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 6:06 pm 

    At last, another poster using a real name.
    I also happen to agree with Kevin Colbey.

    I AM THE MOB. it’s your turn to stand up and be counted.

    Israeli web site DEBKA comes up with the following;

    DEBKA’s take on the June 13 tanker attacks:

    DEBKAfile’s military sources report that behind Iran’s attempt to throw off suspicion for a string of attacks lies the discovery by US intelligence that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards were responsible for the explosions on two supertankers in the Gulf of Oman on June 13, just as they were for the four tankers sabotaged opposite the UAE port of Fujairah on May 12 and 14. This IRGC war plan consists of three escalating phases of aggression, targeting Gulf oil targets and US, Saudi, Israeli and other American allies in the Middle East. Masterminded by Al Qods chief Gen. Qassem Soleimani, it is aimed at compelling the Trump administration to lift its harsh sanctions on Tehran’s oil exports.

    Thursday’s attack in the two supertankers in the Gulf of Oman signaled the start of the second stage of the program after the first failed to dent Washington’s resolve.
    Iran’s war program is outlined in more detail in the coming issue of DEBKA Weekly (for subscribers) out on Friday, June 14. Click here to subscribe

    Our sources add that Khamenei’s decision to throw down the gauntlet puts President Trump on the spot for picking it up. Trump has until now held to his resolve to avoid a military clash with Iranian forces in the Gulf, the Middle East or in Syria. However, the all-powerful Iranian leader has raised the stakes to prove his theory that America is just a paper tiger and Iran’s strategy of belligerence will pay off and confirm its standing as the leading regional power.

    Against the first round of Iranian attacks, Trump stuck to a policy of military restraint. That policy failed to hold Iran in check. Now it has been seized by Khamenei as a stick for beating Washington. If the US does not use its might to strike back, other adversaries, such as China’s Xi Jinping, Russia’s Vladimir Putin and North Korea’s Kim Jong un, will follow Khamenei’s example.

  9. Duncan Idaho on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 6:40 pm 

    “if Iran cannot export petrochemical products through the Persian Gulf, no-one will do this”. “Either everyone will export, or no-one.”
    –Khamenei

  10. Robert Inget on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 6:41 pm 

    IMO Trump badly needs a powerful distraction.
    Tariffs on China and Mexico and Canada didn’t do it for him.
    Now French are talking about an armed force to protect Europe against America!

    The thing is, can the US fight yet another asymmetric war? Clearly not.

    Certainly not with just two aircraft carriers.

    Iran has the latest Russian and Chinese defensive and offensive weapons. Both nations are Allies.

    Any airstrike on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure with so called conventional weapons will in turn become a nuclear (radiation) war in the first minutes.

    Iran has missile submarines, small fast torpedo/missile launching vessels targeting Israeli nuclear facilities.

    The ENTIRE Mid East becomes a wasteland.
    Millions die painfully.

    Maybe Trump’s idea of hiring John Bolton and Mike Pompeo wasn’t such a great choice
    Maybe he should not have dropped out of the six nation nuclear agreement..

    Maybe we live to see how our con man talks himself out of this mess, Ollie.

  11. Duncan Idaho on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 6:59 pm 

    This website has become impossible to access on Microsoft Edge.
    Microsoft is still cleaning up the mess of its past products.
    You will eventually be able to access it.

  12. makati1 on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 7:17 pm 

    Watching the US edge closer and closer to war with a country that will beat the shit out of it. I hope all you are prepped for that event. It is not going to be like any other “war” in the ME since WW2. The Iranians hold the key to the world economy and therefore, the US debt economy. (The Strait)

    Better a war there than in Asia. Go Trump!

  13. makati1 on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 7:22 pm 

    Duncan, Microsoft is dying along with the US. They are incapable of cleaning up anything. It only gets more complicated and more full of “aps” that are worthless. Like the old days when they changed the looks of a Chevy every year so they could sell more to American suckers.

  14. Duncan Idaho on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 7:27 pm 

    They are incapable of cleaning up anything.

    I was being polite–M$$T is its usual mess.

  15. Chrome Mags on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 9:03 pm 

    How to manuf. trouble:
    Shred agreement with Iran
    Impose sanctions on Iranian oil sales
    Act shocked and horrified by ships hit in Hormuz

  16. Anonymouse on Thu, 13th Jun 2019 11:08 pm 

    Torpedoes are capable of doing, like Kevin points out, immense damage, especially to soft, squishy targets like oil tankers. Torpedoes are quite capable of shredding the hulls of WARSHIPS, that on paper, anyhow, are armored. Look at that picture above. The ‘attack’, was designed to look dramatic, do a little bit of damage, but nothing too serious that wouldn’t cost the owners of the ships in question too much money or time to repair.

    Unless I see an official statement from Iran say, “Yea, that was all us”, I am quite confident, Iran, had nothing to do with any of this. Just like had they nothing to do with that ginned up ‘drone’ attack a month ago either.

  17. Davy on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 4:13 am 

    “Unless I see an official statement from Iran say, “Yea, that was all us”, I am quite confident, Iran, had nothing to do with any of this. Just like had they nothing to do with that ginned up ‘drone’ attack a month ago either.”
    No shit annoy, I am quite confident anything that happens geologically will get an anti-American response from you. That is a no brainer.

  18. Davy on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 4:17 am 

    “This website has become impossible to access on Microsoft Edge.”

    It works on edge on m end. Where it does not work for me these days is on my Iphone.

  19. joe on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 4:55 am 

    Limpet mines are attached using subs not fast boats. Fast boats are noisy and have a huge radar/sonar signature. Total bullshit false flag.

  20. Davy on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 5:42 am 

    “geologically” Geopolitically. friggin autocorrect. LOL but geologically does fit annoy too. Anything that happens with many here is anti-American. It is the go-to for an explanation.

  21. Davy on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 7:21 am 

    “Dire Straits Of Hormuz”
    https://tinyurl.com/y29nxhqs zero hedge

    “Iran is suffocating under US sanctions, a known instigator of such actions via proxies, and threatening the EU with walking away from the nuclear deal if they won’t help it out. An attack like this would be incredibly reckless…unless they are desperate enough to up the ante to see if a war-averse White House will press ahead with another ruinous Middle East conflict ahead of the 2020 elections and in the face of a Cold War with China. If that is the case then expect more provocations and more Risk Off even as Iran calls this all “beyond suspicious”, “economic terrorism”, and “sabotage diplomacy”. The US is divided between neo-cons champing at the bit to take on Tehran, war-averse Trump, and a Pentagon now looking at China–and Russia–as the real threat: notably, CENTCOM has said a war with Iran is not in the US strategic interest”

    “In short, one could argue that the largest risk is that it is the Iranians who are upping the stakes vs. US economic pressure,…in which case the US has very difficult choices to make on both fronts. Jaw-jaw or war-war?”

  22. Anonymouse on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 8:54 am 

    Oh. noes, the exceptionalturd is having twubble with his widdle phone, and cant crank out his signature TURD-salads at the same mind-numbing rate he is used to.

    Suck to be you doesn’t it exceptionaltard?

  23. Robert Inget on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 9:03 am 

    Iran has made its position clear. If it is prevented from using the Straight of Hormuz, then it will prevent everyone from using the Strait.

    What is not clear, however, is if Iran considers across-the-board sanctions on all Iranian exports/trade as a de facto closing of the Straight.

    If this is the case, or if Iran wishes to signal that it believes that is indeed the case, then a low-cost, low-risk move such as the pair of recent attacks on a methanol and on a naphtha carrier may have been exactly the message that Iran wishes to convey.

    The attacks may have also been a way for Iran, assuming it was behind the attacks, to communicate to other states in the area that it may not be in their own self interest to participate in the UAE-Saudi-US axis.

    If I recall my history texts correctly, Iran has not invaded a neighboring for well over two centuries, which certainly suggests that Iran is not an aggressor state. However, this does not mean or imply that Iran, if it feels itself to be under siege, will not share the pain with its neighbors. In fact, Iran has been explicit about this — it does not have the ability or the willingness to take on the US in a conventional war, but it certainly can and will make US regional allies pay dearly in the event of any US attack on Iran. The recent Houthis (counter) attacks against the Saudis make it more than clear that Saudi Arabia’s oil infrastructure is at risk from small but well targeted attacks.

    In a battle of If-You-Fuck-with-my-Trading, I-will-Fuck-with-your-Trading, Iran may have the the upper hand, and it is also probably well aware that Trump’s voter base has no interest in yet another long, bloody regional adventure. Iran can and will use its own Trump card — targeted asymmetric attacks to threaten the Straight of Hormuz — should it deem that US sanctions are but a high-tech device designed to close off Iran’s trading routes.

    One should also not forget that, should push come to shove, Iran and Iraq will put aside their differences, which would open up another whole set of worries for Washington.

    https://www.investorvillage.com/groups.asp?mb=19168&mn=207697&pt=msg&mid=19510682

  24. Robert Inget on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 9:40 am 

    On Wednesday, EIA reported a huge ‘surplus’ of condensate, (NGL) rich crude oil.
    Crude prices fell 4% as a result.
    Thursday, news of attacks on two tankers.
    Oil prices ‘rebounded’ 3.5%.

    Today, attempts are being made to hold the lid on
    crude until the end of Friday’s trading.
    http://www.livecharts.co.uk/MarketCharts/crude.php

    Predictions made here are subject to change AFTER the facts.

    And now, something different.
    Trump has been making withdraws from SPR for months or since Venezuelan crude went away.

    Now, Trump is calling for 15% ethanol instead of
    5% or 10% poorer milage corn.
    Corn fields are dry now and the 40% of farmers who didn’t plant corn, now can. The good news for farmers corn prices improved.

    15% ethanol, because of higher corn prices, will
    jack-up the price of gasoline.
    If a person can buy ethanol free gas, by all means
    buy it. Your milage will improve to the point that you cost will be the same as 15% ethanol. Plus,
    your engine will thank you.

    In winter, 5% ethanol if you are able.

  25. Cloggie on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 12:40 pm 

    “Iran and Iraq will put aside their differences”

    What differences?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/15/world/middleeast/iran-iraq-iranian-power.html

    https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/2019/06/10/strong-turkey-iran-relations-beneficial-for-region-erdogan-says

    “Strong Turkey-Iran relations beneficial for region, Erdoğan says”

    http://iranpress.com/iran-i135495

    “Iran, Turkey can resolve regional problems: Rouhani tells Erdoğan”

    If Turkey and Iran team up, the US empire in the ME is over.

    Turkey and Iran can agree to divide Syria and KSA into sphere of influences among themselves, with Iran becoming the overlord of Shia Iraq and Turkey the Sunni parts (West). Turkey can have most of KSA, if Iran gets the smaller Shia part in the East (with all the oil).

    If the US starts an armed conflict in the Gulf, expect an all out war. Crucial will be the role of Turkey. Signs are that Turkey will choose the side of SCO (Russia, China, Iran).

    This just in:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48620087

    “What Turkey’s S-400 missile deal with Russia means for Nato”

    If Trump wants to end empire, as well as the US, he must attack now.

  26. Cloggie on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 12:48 pm 

    Israel teaming up with British “Natzis”:

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-katie-white-genocide-hopkins-has-powerful-friends-in-jerusalem-1.7365219

    If they do that, you know that the NWO and Israel are with the back against the wall and that they are betting that European populism will win and Israel should prepare for having at least the option to switch from the US to Europe.

    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/iran/.premium-the-american-sanctions-on-iran-are-a-boon-for-russia-and-turkey-1.7246387

    Russia and the European right are laughing all the way to the bank with these US anti-Iranian sanctions, which drives Europe into the arms of Russia. Hence I keep at least the hypothesis alive that Trump is doing this all on purpose, to wreck the empire.

  27. JuanP on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 1:44 pm 

    “Oh. noes, the exceptionalturd is having twubble with his widdle phone,”

    pretty piss poor impersonation of annoy, juanpee

  28. More Davy Identity Theft on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 1:49 pm 

    JuanP on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 1:44 pm

  29. Anonymouse on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 2:55 pm 

    pretty piss poor impersonation of a sane intelligent rational lifeform, exceptionalturd

  30. Theedrich on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 5:09 pm 

    So now the war gods show a grainy, monocolor video.  It shows a small watercraft alongside a large vessel, but it is utterly unclear as to what is going on in the movie.  According to the accompanying agitprop, Iranians on the smaller boat must be detaching some sort of mine from the larger ship.  And of course, all of you imbecilic viewers, you must believe that it was all ordered by the Supreme Leadership Authority of Iran just in order to make the innocent and virtuous U.S. mad.

    Shades of the Tonkin Gulf!  In addition to having just sent an aircraft carrier to threaten Iran with obliteration, the CIA and Pentagon types are now muttering about sending more troops, weapons and materiel to protect the peace-loving Saudis (now genociding the Yemenis) from the dastardly Persians.  And in the process, of course, we’ll be shelling out more billions to the military-industrial complex.

    How wonderful.  Nothing like a good war against a militarily inferior country to make America feel super-duper again.  And it will be so exciting to watch our tactical nukes kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians.  How nice.  America the beautiful.

  31. makati1 on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 6:13 pm 

    Theedrich, your satire is great!

    Cloggie: “Trump is doing this all on purpose, to wreck the empire.” My thoughts also.

    BTW: I have better things to do than wait for PO to upload all of its past garbage with every post or change of article. It takes 45+ seconds for every one. Sometimes minutes, and often exceeds the computer’s waiting time. Is the NSA’s spy equipment antique? Maybe they should get some from China? lol

    The site needs a serious upgrade or it will soon die. My last post of the day. More important and interesting things to do here in the land of eternal summer than wait on PO. All other sites come up and/or reset quickly so it must be PO. Planting rhubarb today. ^_^

  32. Anonymouse on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 8:03 pm 

    CloggJew is a yidiot mak, and a complete fraud as is amply ‘documented’ if I may use the word. The figurehead ‘trump’ loves the idea and notion of the indispensable amerikan empire as much as any ‘good’ jew or member of the uS elites. While he may well nudge certain aspects of the collapse of the amero-israeli hegemony along a little faster because of his tactless and clueless blundering, the notion that he is doing so willfully and with some kind of ‘plan’ in mind, is a fantasy that exists only in CloggJews fevered imagination.

    No one uS ‘president’ will ‘wreck’ the jewmerikan empire, because uS ‘presidents’ are essentially powerless figureheads. Look at trump, what exactly, has he actually accomplished, or changed about the uS? Besides tarnishing amerikas already shitty image and rubbing a lot of celebrity jews and faux progressives the wrong way, he has accomplished, and will, accomplish very little. Unless you count making even more people hate amerika even more than they already did?

    Ok, mission accomplished. Well give him that one.

    For the site? Yes, totally agree. It hardly matters if you have a pototo PC, a shitty hand-me-down Davyphone, or a well-built and tuned PC, PO.com is sllllloooow these days.

  33. makati1 on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 9:14 pm 

    Non, on this one I still agree with Cloggie. Trump is destroying the US daily. You may not want to see it but I do. He has destroyed relationships/treaties/trade built over decades, all in a few months. I also think he will be supported by the very elites that will benefit from the destruction, so he WILL be given 4 more years to finish the job. He has no competition.

    The US is already dying and there is no democracy or freedom left in America, only fast growing debt, poverty, drugs and crime. Third world America is going into isolation with ever increasing speed. Only needs one huge event to tip the scales and the US will be history.

    The US cannot even manufacture over priced weapons that work. So many proofs of that claim. All you have to do is google US weapons failures. The latest is a $13B carrier that cannot even launch the new piece of junk called the F35. The military estimates at least 2027 before it can use that aircraft on carriers. Ans on and on.

    No, the US is a dead man walking. Trump is going to push it on its face before he is finished. Wait and see.

    And, yes, I said I would not post again today but I had a few minutes to wait on something I am printing so, I saw your comment. Always a good one.

  34. Kevin Cobley on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 11:00 pm 

    The Japanese are suggesting the attack was by an explosive carrying “drone”, that no torpedoes, or fast water craft were seen, eliminating the limpet mine.
    It’s also possible a crew member dangled the explosive on a rope over the side of the ship.

  35. Cloggie on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 11:41 pm 

    I believe the Japanese crew much more than the Pentagon. It were drones. “Accidently” a US warship was around to pick up the Japanese crew.lol

    The entire US “history” (criminal record rather) is littered with these kind of vile setups.

    Even the Dutch news was skeptical about the video yesterday.

    Germans are skeptical:

    https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/golf-von-oman-die-technische-seite-der-tanker-angriffe-a-1272486.html

    As per usual, the British support the US:

    https://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/oeltanker-angriff-im-golf-von-oman-jeremy-hunt-macht-iran-verantwortlich-a-1272563.html

    I say: bring it on! This Gulf thingy plus Brexit is the perfect occasion to bring about a violent split within the West and drive continental Europe into the arms of Russia and China, who can’t believe their luck and can demand Europe to remain neutral or else no oil and gas. Add Turkey and Iran to Eurasia and you have a winning coalition. Iranian oil and gas can be shipped to Europe and China via the Caspian Sea.

    Eurasia vs Anglosphere.
    WW3

    War theaters: SCS, Gulf, Venezuela, Ukraine. Skirmishes over the Channel between the British and French.

    Passed 100,000 US casualties, expect uprisings in the US.

  36. Cloggie on Fri, 14th Jun 2019 11:45 pm 

    US populist right is skeptical too:

    https://www.infowars.com/us-releases-smoking-gun-video-of-irans-navy-handling-mine-on-tanker-hull/

  37. Duncan Idaho on Sat, 15th Jun 2019 11:42 am 

    YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE A FELON ON A UNICYCLE TO BE A TAR SAND P-R HACK?

    https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2019/06/convicted-fraudster-appointed-as-policy.html

    (Sorry about the caps- I’m too lazy to correct them)

  38. Cloggie on Mon, 17th Jun 2019 1:24 am 

    BoJo or the rise of idiocracy:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-7147799/JEREMY-VINE-reveals-saw-Boris-make-shambolic-speech-bring-house-down.html

    “Boris Johnson’s party trick rumbled! JEREMY VINE reveals how he once saw the MP make a shambolic, unprepared speech and forget his punchlines but still bring the house down – and 18 months later he repeated the routine”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7147411/Gang-100-youths-bombard-police-bottles-missiles-Lawless-London.html

    “Gang of more than 100 youths bombard officers with bottles and missiles in ‘riot’ near Westfield Stratford City shopping centre as police arrest two over Lawless London’s latest murder”

    Britain approaching the next “2011”? Ah well, with every town on fire, they can’t plot for the demise of Germany. Always look at the bright side of life, tadam, tadam,

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7148119/Tory-donors-secret-talks-Nigel-Farage-Conservative-Brexit-party-election-pact.html

    Alliance Tories-Brexit-party coming up.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7147187/Trump-doesnt-want-war-Foreign-Secretary-Jeremy-Hunt-warns-great-risk-escalation.html

    “Jeremy Hunt warns of ‘great risk’ of Third Gulf War as Royal Marines are readied to be sent to the region after Iran is blamed for oil tanker attacks”

    Brexit + Third Gulf War –> WW3 Eurasia-Anglosphere

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7147767/ANDREW-PIERCE-Old-pal-David-Cameron-helps-Boris-Johnson-race-No-10.html

    “ANDREW PIERCE: ‘Old pal’ David Cameron helps Boris Johnson in race for No. 10”

    Somebody needs a seat in the House of Lords.

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