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No More Presidents

The inauguration of Donald Trump as president of the United States has unleashed a wave of anger across the country. Faced with the frightening prospect of an authoritarian right wing government, many people have chosen to take their opposition to the streets. In the days surrounding Trump’s inauguration, Washington DC became the scene of continuous disruptions and resistance. On the day after the inauguration, one of the largest international mobilization in recent history took place with an estimated 4.8 million people marching on over 700 cities around the world. These days of action marked a clear rejection of the Trump administration and the global rise of right-wing populism.



115 Comments on "No More Presidents"

  1. Cloggie on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 12:40 pm 

    Faced with a President who for the first time in many decades is clearly insane, the non-indoctrinated few are wondering what the fuck the rest of you are thinking.

    Could you elaborate a little on your assessment of Trump being “clearly insane”?

    Especially the resident right-wingers would be interested in a debate on this fascinating subject.

    Or are you just throwing mud from a safe distance?

  2. Apneaman on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 1:30 pm 

    Antius, your wayback (50,000) grandparents came out of Africa. This is confirmed by DNA, which, like math, is not an opinion. Further all humans except sub Saharan Africans have neanderthal and Denisovan DNA, so what race does that make one? You know many a white folks who have paid to have their DNA tested got some surprising results. Like finding out that they ain’t all white. I had mine tested and I’m all euro/scandinavian with 3% Neanderthal, so how can I claim to be all white when I carry neanderthal DNA. I may have some Denisovan, but they weren’t testing for it at the time. How would I know if you were truly one of my white brothers unless I see your test – see not tell? Who knows what mongrel blood you are carrying? One of the staunchest supports has recent African in his DNA. Anyone in America could have. Only testing can tell.

    White supremacist Craig Cobb 14% Sub-Saharan African

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493491/White-supremacist-Craig-Cobbs-DNA-test-reveals-hes-14-African.html

    White supremacists using DNA tests to prove their ‘whiteness’

    https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2016/10/14/white-supremacists-using-dna-tests-prove-whiteness/

    White Nonsense
    Alt-right trolls are arguing over genetic tests they think “prove” their whiteness

    “And if you believe in the superiority of European culture and white people, then it follows that one of the most important facts you should establish is that you are white yourself.”

    https://news.vice.com/story/alt-right-trolls-are-getting-23andme-genetic-tests-to-prove-their-whiteness

    Methinks it best to get your DNA tested before you join any white supremacist group, because they might make you do the test and it would not be fun if it showed that you weren’t “pure”.

    I just love how the very same science that shows their euro ancestry also proves their monkey people ancestors came out of Africa.

    WHITE POWER! WHITE POWER!

    What I don’t get is why all the white pride when white people are by and large responsible for where the world is today? I mean we created the modern global neo liberal system. You know the one that is collapsing? You would think the supreme race would easily be able to avoid that. If there was anyone around to write history in the future (there won’t be) they would look upon the whites as the biggest fuck up cancer that ever existed. More power, wealth and technology then all the others combined that came before them and more than all the other races combined in their time and they fucking blew it all for a handful of cheap dopamine hits. Real fucking superior. All I hear is cheap excuses, pouty victimization and blaming others for all their fuck ups. Whites became fat and soft and lazy, same as all others who gained great wealth. People who are truly superior don’t need to go around shouting about it. That’s for the insecure and fearful.

  3. penury on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 3:01 pm 

    The way that I learned evolution, we are all (humans) descended from “Lucy” we came out of Africa and colonized the world. Sorry about what we have done to the world, but in my opinion all humans are equal, They are all rapacious murderers of other species and then they kill their own. Skin color or lack of colour does not seem to make a difference only the amount of perceived wealth gathered by each tribe seems to trigger the “I must have it all” gene in the human brain.

  4. John Kintree on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 4:05 pm 

    There probably are selfish genes in our DNA. Since our success as a species is largely related to our being social animals, we must also have genes for cooperation and mutual aid.

    Which kinds of behavior today will maximize our success as a species; building walls, or tearing down towers?

  5. Cloggie on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 6:23 pm 

    Drain the swamp latest:

    Viktory Nuland won’t return at her post after she took her hat on her own initiative, probably because she knew when it was time to hit the road.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/375211-near-complete-housecleaning-senior-diplomats/

  6. shortonoil on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 7:03 pm 

    How many of these protesters are going to be around in a year? This fad is not likely to last any longer than the Hola Hoop. Anyway, if they come back in a year there will probably be more justification for the mass burning of garbage cans. Go long on garbage can manufactures. It would be hard to lose on!

  7. Midnight Oil on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 7:47 pm 

    The beautiful thing about our system of power, is it allows those with pent up grievances an outlet to release their dissatisfaction of the power structure in a controlled manner.
    Hope Occupy Wall Street part II last longer this time around.
    I’ll go long on tuna cans.

  8. kenxxx3000 on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 10:22 pm 

    Apneafag the neadrathal dna makes you white and increases your iq although you also have lucifers dna.

  9. kenxxx3000 on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 10:24 pm 

    Since neandrathals were in europe half a million years before homo sapiens that means they were half a million years more advanced. Thats why homo sapiens ate and raped them.

  10. kenxxx3000 on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 10:27 pm 

    Apneacunt needs to go back to afrika and see what they will do with a half breed neadrathal.

  11. Apneaman on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 10:57 pm 

    kenxxx3000, I hear your mom is big on Africans. She love that big black veiny cock. Maybe you need to get your DNA tested. If it turns out you have African DNA because of mama’s sluming, you’ll have to change your handle to – Tyronxxx3000.

  12. joe on Fri, 27th Jan 2017 11:29 pm 

    Islam= Religion of Arab Supremacy. Islam emerged from the failure of either Roman or Persian leadership to recognise the threat posed by what only appeared to be chaotic Arab politics. So the 2 great powers of the world focused on each other and fought to a standstill and bankruptcy. When Rome/Persia were at their weakest, Islam emerged as a third force to exploit the gaps. Islam has been the same ever since. America and Russia and China the last great pockets of resistance to the Islamic cultural leeches who exploit the goodwill of Christians to promote their agenda, Merkel clasically fell for it in 2015/16 and Europe will die because of it.

  13. Cloggie on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 2:58 am 

    White supremacist Craig Cobb 14% Sub-Saharan African

    Wow, Friday is well-acquainted with all these white nationalist internet heroes like Craig Cobb. Secretly in mom’s basements browsing their sites and listening to their pod-casts, eh? Like a from fear paralyzed rabbit staring in the poachers light, waiting for the fatal blow on his head with a club.

    Apneafag the neadrathal dna makes you white and increases your iq although you also have lucifers dna.

    Friday refuses to reveal his ancestry but loves to attack somebody else his identity, but only if his opponent is white. He suggests that he has no European ancestry by saying he is “Canadian”. [*]

    Apparently he has some Ukrainian ancestry, which accounts for his bad manners and brutal language. So, let’s settle on 25% Ukrainian and 75% Eskimo, the latter would perfectly explain his mortal fear for climate change, because that drama would literally remove the floe from under his feet.

    [*] Canada is not a country but a British colonial resource, that officially got semi-independent as late as 1982. Canada, like all these other British inventions like Iraq, Syria, Czechoslovakia and what not, will fall apart at the first opportunity because of a total lack of coherent national identity. I expect Quebec to go back to France…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l1EYNoHY1A
    (this was the only time in Canadian history that the good people of Mont-Real were enthusiastic about any leader; ah well, ethnicity is the most determining factor in social life, a fact “anti-racist” wannabee world-conquering Anglos would love to brush under the carpet)

    …and the Anglo part to that group with the most resolve, probably the Chinese. Friday is already lying on his belly, offering his a* to any non-white interested.

    In this respect the US is a little better. The country is essentially a spin-off from a major conflict between France/Holland and Britain. The Europeans had by 1763 carved up entire North-America, until the British had the nerve to throw the French out of North-America. The latter were predictably not amused but detected that there were a few locals willing to take the tax farm over from the British, but who were completely unable to ram the latter out of the country all by themselves, not in the least because there were quit a few locals who were loyal to Britain. The Dutch smuggled all the weapons into North-America and the French army finally defeated the British (more French died than Americans).

    America now exists for some 200 years as a country (100 years truly independent and 100 years as a Zionist colony) and meanwhile has developed some still very fragile sense of ethnic identity and a recognizable ethnic phenotype, not at all bad looking btw:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Trump.jpg
    (Essentially the first “ethnic Europeans” on this planet)

    But it is still fragile. 200 years is the time required to have a proper lawn, well according to the British that is, for a real country you need at least 1000 years. But we are working on it. Perhaps we can create a new great European Volk, snatch them away, this time not from the British but from the Soros mob and park them in a global European culture circle. End good, all good.

    http://therightstuff.biz/2016/06/16/behold-i-teach-you-the-amerikaner/

  14. dooma on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 4:48 am 

    Trump announced (amongst many things this week) that he is going to build men and women in uniform new planes, ships and other stupendously expensive machines of war.

    Ahem, who is going to pay for all of this? He lives in a parallel universe.

  15. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 5:46 am 

    I hope there is a “Be Human part II” that gets our shit together and walks us through the gauntlet of death. Trumpism and Occupy Wall Street are extremes and do not represent reality. Both seek changes but fail to understand the consequences. Trump is going to make America real again by making her smaller and more insular. Some of what he is doing I approve of as a means to an end. I don’t like how we are getting there. It is more a desperation than an approval. His intention is to make her great again but he will make America smaller and poorer.

    Trump may well be the American leader that adapts the US towards multipolarism with normalization with Russia. This may be his best achievement for us all. Multipolarism is a reality now. Russia and China have changed the global dynamics. Russia is a world power and has earned it. China is the factory of the world and that is reality. The US can’t top this anymore. If we peruse nationalism of what is best for the US then this is the best by not fighting an established fact of a new “multipolarized” world. A cold or hot war with Russia is not in the interest of either power. The real challenge will be managed trade with China. That will have consequences for all nations.

    Occupy Wall Street is a movement against the excesses of the globalized market based capitalism. What these type groups don’t realize is ending these excesses ends a system that produces goods and services that cannot be matched. A different system will drop production down a level or two. People are going to start dying as all the various carrying capacity lines start crossing into the red zone. Minimum operating levels will be breached. Globalism is a certain way and it is only going to be adapted around the edges which is very little. We can make it a little kinder, gentler, and a little fair. Little is the result. People on all sides need to realize disturbing this complex system will be its end. The very nature of globalism and the reason it is so powerful is its one guiding principle and that is growth with progress. This progress includes economies of scale, efficiency that lowers cost providing more output, and open borders for money and knowledge to flow. Fairness and healthy is not in that definition. If these groups think things are bad now just wait until they kill globalism then the real pain will start.

    Globalism is no longer a valid system for a future of limits and diminishing returns. Our overshoot with population and the corresponding ecosystem stress complicates this. Globalism allows more of the bad that got us here but it is also all that can provide now to keep us whole. Globalism is a catch 22 of we grow and die or we die if we end growing. Currently the dying has not started yet we are near the real shit. We don’t have to do anything but the results will be the same. We walk to the cliff with the status quo with all our delusional techno optimism or we make changes now with consequences that are not as harsh but harsh nonetheless. We are not getting out of this situation whole. This is a trap and we are going to lose the foot in the trap. It is going to slow us down or kill us. There are arguments for either way. We can continue to live as we are with growing affluence for some but the risk of dramatic adjustments to all including the rich. We can adapt now with less affluence for all and take care of as many fairly and equitably as possible like is done on lifeboats. The sad truth is we have to at least halve our population in the next decades. Death and poverty are the catch words of our new world order either way.

    A “Be Human part II” would embrace decay and decline first without blame. We would embrace downsizing with dignity and relative sacrifice. We would realize those who are the lucky ones are not just going to lay down and turn over to see their lives gutted. This is not human nature they will choose a fight instead and all lose in a fight. We can’t expect nations to give up affluence to make other better and watch reverse wealth transfer. This is the fallacy of the current climate agreements and sustainable development of empowering those economies less blessed with more prosperity. This does not work when everyone is in decline. The result is more talk and Trumps and that is just more fantasy. This is about mutual and relative decline. All must suffer together. The same is true of individuals. Some kind of mutual relative sacrifice must be found. We must all learn to live with less and adapt attitudes and behavior. This is about human and natural wisdom and it is the wisdom of saying no to more and saying less is best. The alternative is war at all levels from nations to groups. It is hell on earth and it is close.

    The only way we will get to alternative action from the status quo is through an existential crisis enveloping all nations. There will have to be a common realization that cooperation to mitigate what could be a dire situation must be a common purpose. It is unclear if our system can even survive these changes but if it could it might chose to be wise over war. These changes are coming with or without our change. Civil war looks increasing likely everywhere in different expressions. This is what populations do when they are stressed. We are in the vicinity of dangerous demand destruction, depletion, and social decay. Ideas that accommodate this coming reality should at least be on the table. It is called risk management. All I see now is the usual blame and complain. The important liberal elements of society have been completely corrupted and are wandering lost. This failure is at every level from journalism to science. This is what globalism did with wealth transfer and inequality. It allowed unreality to infect even our most enlightened. These liberal elements should be the ones leading us to innovative change instead they are destroying us. The conservatives are what they are. They may be talked into change if it is realistic. Conservatives tend to be against change and science but they are interested in survival.

    All sides may see a common reason for survival in a crisis that is near. It is likely this will happen at many levels. The national and global level will be difficult except as a macro directional force. This force would be acknowledging the problem and getting out of the way of regions and local to do the adapting they need to do per their local in a global relative sacrifice. Sounds warm and fuzzy I know but we will long for the warm in fuzzy after we are cold and hungry with the little kids dying all around us.

  16. makati1 on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 5:48 am 

    dooma, if it takes as long as the F35 and the cost over runs like same, it will never happen. Many promises.

    Reading one of my SF novels, I came across this joke: “How do you get God to laugh?”
    Answer:”You tell him your plans.”

    I think that sums up the situation. Like those “shovel ready” jobs Obama promised. They never happened. Large construction jobs take years of planning and preparation. They do not happen overnight. Ditto for designing and building military systems unless they want to build obsolete junk.

  17. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 5:56 am 

    Your are going to pay for it dooma. It’s called a US tax on all nations for being dumbass and allowing it in the first place. Bend over for your butt hurt. Australian is just going to be a part of the tail that gets wagged. When a trade war with China develops you will have to cow tow to China. You got into bed with her so enjoy it. Your days of independence are numbered. Sorry reality is coming home to all of us. Probably the US first with dangerous civil conflict but you are on the short list of next. Living in your Aussie dream world is not an option. The same is true for the dumbass hypocritical Canadians who only owe their highest in the world living standards to being next to the Americans. They might not even be a country when shit hits the fan. No wonder they hate the US so much they are terrified.

  18. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 6:58 am 

    How about this Trumpism contradiction. I look forward to him finding an executive order for this problem. BTW, this is a global phenomenon just google over to China to see parking lots of finished and unsold autos that are surreal.

    “US Auto Industry In Crisis Amid “Inventory Bubble”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/us-auto-industry-crisis-amid-inventory-bubble

    “Despite record U.S. auto sales last year, the number of vehicles on car-dealer lots remains near record highs, and, as J.D.Power analyst Thomas King warned this week, 2016 ended with an inventory “bubble” that will require less production or more incentives to clear. With near record high inventories of 3.9 million vehicles…”

    “Of course this massive stockpile hits just as President Trump pressures the auto-industry to onshore more jobs and more production…”

    “But as the industry automates, factories don’t create jobs like they used to, said Marina Whitman, a professor of business administration and public policy at the University of Michigan. “The American auto industry last year produced more cars than it ever had before, but they did it with somewhere between one-third and one-half the number of workers that they had decades ago,” said Whitman, who was an adviser to President Richard Nixon and GM’s chief economist from 1978 to 1992. “The last thing the auto industry needs is more capacity.” she said.”

    “So – produce more to employ more people and please President Trump (only to dramatically worsen the inevitable collapse), or cut workforces and production further (as we have already seen) and face the wrath of Trump’s tweets?”

  19. Dredd on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 7:36 am 

    The inauguration of Donald Trump as president of the United States has unleashed a wave of anger across the country. Faced with the frightening prospect of an authoritarian right wing government, many people have chosen to take their opposition to the streets.

    “No more presidents” and no more polar sea ice either (Polar Sea Ice Trend At Both Poles).

    Which happens first?

  20. joe on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 7:56 am 

    Trump bans all the Shia majority countries where Shias have power, shocking, then adds in some US caused failed states for good measure. Lightweight Trump, very lightweight.

  21. joe on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 8:01 am 

    Also
    Trumps Syria ban is stupid, because Merkel let most of them into Europe, and the other 3 million, Merkel is paying for them to live in Turkey and Turkey is being paid by the EU to turn their country into a massive prison camp for Syrians.
    The refugees get debit cards and get paid every month to stay in Turkey, its a crazy situtation. Otherwise the EU would have collapsed already by now. Instead all they got was a couple of million instead of 5!

  22. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 8:01 am 

    It’s a start Joe, and already causing a stink. The important point is the start. It is better start than your dumbass country is doing.

  23. joe on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 8:05 am 

    Its a start. Its the end too. I thought Trump was a crazy nut with balls, hes looking like a lightweight now. Ohhh, jihadis everywhere are shaking, he just picked on Al Qaedas worst enemies!

  24. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 8:12 am 

    AHH, what part of nationalism don’t you understand Joe? Maybe you “limies” best get with the picture before you are overrun by the problem. I think that is partially what Brexit was. Point fingers all you want but dumbass Obama is gone. There is a new Sheriff in town and I know you Anglos hate that but this is your problem now not a shared one as was once the case. When you pay to play you get what you paid for.

    The US is going to pay for what it did. The Obama/neocon compromise lost the US its leadership role in the Middle East. The US got its ass kicked in Syria. Russia is the sheriff there now. Talk to Putin maybe he will give you some sympathy. All this is just more reason to increase your anti-American hate but now that the world is going nationalistic good luck with that. LOL. Nationalism is tit for tat so have at it.

  25. joe on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 8:15 am 

    Nationalism? Wrong topic. Trump is a lightweight who banned countries America wrecked or who already had little or no links. Sorry dude, its weak.

  26. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 8:28 am 

    LMFAO, obviously you don’t have a clue Joe. Always back to pointing fingers and not seeing past that. Who the fuck cares Joe. You were part of the nation wrecking so bend over dumbass. American foreign policy is a failure. What are you going to do whip our ass, whine and wail? OR, get with the picture and protect your dumbass?

  27. Cloggie on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 10:09 am 

    Here is what Bill Clinton said in 1995:

    http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2017/01/filmpje_bill_clinton_over_de_k.html#comments

    Essentially the same noises Trump makes today.

  28. Apneaman on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 10:58 am 

    Have we reached peak Cheeto yet? Apparently not. All the fan boys are still as giddy as little girls.

    Oh big daddy Cheeto, you’re just so dreamy!

    closet homo clog gets moist with every Cheeto tweet.

  29. Apneaman on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 11:39 am 

    Bring it on big Cheeto bring IT ON!

    Donald Trump’s Great Wall on Mexican border will damage environment in ‘insane act of self-sabotage’

    Making the cement needed for a 1,000-mile concrete wall would emit nearly two million tons of carbon dioxide and cut off endangered animals from part of their territory

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/donald-trump-great-wall-mexican-border-damage-environment-insane-self-sabotage-wildlife-mexico-a7548861.html

    Scientists Warn Trump’s Border Wall Will Be Bad for the Planet

    Project would require twice the concrete of Hoover Dam

    Concrete’s main ingredient is potent source of greenhouse gas

    ““Let’s talk about modernizing electric grids — not building walls,”

    “That’s in part because it’s made by heating limestone, a process that releases carbon, and also because it requires the equivalent of about 400 pounds (181 kilograms) of coal to crank out a single ton of cement.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-26/scientists-warn-trump-s-border-wall-will-be-bad-for-the-planet

  30. Ghung on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 11:50 am 

    Why isn’t KSA on Trump’s list? OBL was a Saudi, and 9/11 (cited as ’cause’ in his order) was carried out by Saudis. Maybe we need to see his tax returns to find out.

  31. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 12:18 pm 

    KSA-oil, Paki’s-doctors, Egypt- alliance, Turkey-alliance. It is called nationalism and you choose your friends based on self-interest. These countries should be worried and likely might reevaluate extremist in their populations or they may be next.

  32. Mark on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 1:07 pm 

    Whether Cheeto Trump is president is really not relevant. Coming economic issues will likely ignite social unrest. DT might exacerbate the process, but it’s likely to happen anyway.

  33. John Kintree on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 1:09 pm 

    Is there anyone participating in this forum who is not a citizen of planet Earth?

    Is there any citizen of planet Earth who will not be affected by the CO2 emissions that will result if the wall proposed by Trump is built?

    I suspect that people who voted for Trump because they liked the idea of the wall actually liked the idea of job security. A greater risk to the jobs of most Americans is probably not immigrants, but automation. Amazing how little was said about the impact of automation on jobs during the campaign for President.

  34. Ghung on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 1:16 pm 

    “….you choose your friends based on self-interest…”

    Yes, Davy you do:

    President Trump’s Muslim ban excludes countries linked to his sprawling business empire:

    ” President Trump’s most recent executive order effectively bans citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S. for at least 90 days — but some Muslim countries were spared from the order’s blacklist, even though they have deep-seated ties to terrorism.

    Conspicuously, Trump doesn’t hold any business interests in any of the countries on the list, but holds major stakes in several of those excluded from it, records show.

    Friday’s executive order, signed at the Pentagon, suspends the issuing of U.S. visas or travel permits to people from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

    Not a single American was killed on U.S. soil by citizens from any of those countries between 1975 and 2015, according to statistics tallied by the conservative-leaning Cato Institute.

    However, the same set of statistics show that nearly 3,000 Americans were killed by citizens from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Turkey in the same time period — with the bulk of those killed being victims of the 9/11 attacks. Yet, people from those four countries are still welcome to apply for U.S. visas and travel permits.

    In a striking parallel, Trump’s sprawling business empire — which he has refused to rescind ownership of — holds multi-million dollar licensing and development deals in all of those countries, raising potential conflict of interest concerns and alarming questions over what actually went into the decision process behind Friday’s executive order…..”

    Gosh, Davy, keep reading about Trump’s ‘self-interests’:
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-muslim-ban-excludes-countries-linked-businesses-article-1.2957956

  35. Hello on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 1:59 pm 

    John Kintree:
    I don’t care much about job security.
    But I care a whole lot about not having to be a foreigner in my on land.

    Visiting the town I grew up in europe is like visiting a 3rd world dump. Thank you immigration!

  36. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:01 pm 

    Who cares Ghung. These are new times of nationalism. It is change and not like we may want it. It is change nonetheless and something had to change because what was happening before was insane. Anything is better than the alternative you turned a blind eye to. Trump could never in a thousand years top the alternative that didn’t even give you a rise when they were wanting to be the leadership. I imagine a certain amount of corruption is just politics was your opinion back then. Now it is the end of the world because you don’t like they guy. Before it was “just politics” I call that BS.

    I am for border restrictions of any kind. I am not a racist either. Make it tough on everyone from now on. We have 100MIL too many people in this country. This is just the start of this process and I am sure it will adapt and change becoming more fair and pragmatic. This is the message phase. If your only concern is Trumps business dealings then it is obvious you could give a shit about other issues. You are just hot and bothered about Trump winning. Well you fucked up and didn’t vote and that is what happens when you don’t vote. Get over it and be a big boy you are one of many to blame for Trump.

  37. Cloggie on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:03 pm 

    Making the cement needed for a 1,000-mile concrete wall would emit nearly two million tons of carbon dioxide and cut off endangered animals from part of their territory

    The temporary extra CO2 emission from the wall has been compensated for by keeping Muslims in their countries and as such reduce air traffic.

    Furthermore, the wall will greatly discourage travel of hundreds of thousands if not millions of Mexicans, travelling thousands of kilometers each year. That has now been prevented by this anti-globalist measure.

    It is a very environmentally sound measure. Checks and balances and stuff. We should all applaud these measures.

    (Not that our resident commies like Friday and Ghung give a f* about CO2-reduction, as long as nations are destroyed, our esteemed representatives of the British Empire (now defunct and slowly turning into a Caliphate) are happy).

  38. Cloggie on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:09 pm 

    http://pamelagellercom.c.presscdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/moscow-muslims-800×450.jpeg

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/697583/Rotherham-abuse-scandal-child-grooming-gangs-industrial-scale-victims-CSE

    Keep the invaders out, they are not our people. We don’t want them, go to Britain and Canada instead.

    This is about a identitarian, continental European future for the US, not a globalist British Anglo-Zionist one. The latter had their 20th century and screwed up big time.

    Ghung/Friday: go f. y.

  39. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:09 pm 

    John, first, I doubt the big bad ass wall is going to be built like most here fantasize about. It might but I doubt it. Some of it will I am sure. Most of the wall will likely be abstract and human. There are ways that both governments can secure this border if they cooperate. Threatening a wall gets everyone focused. Again this is the message phase that we are serious. Now it is time to come to the table and make something work. John, second, why not go over to China and talk to them about ghost cities and highways to nowhere if you are worried about CO2 from concrete emissions. Let’s be fair and equitable shouldn’t we? China has wasted 3 Trump walls on their insanity but little is said about that.

  40. Cloggie on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:11 pm 

    Should have been this picture for London:

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02135/Jumma_2135806b.jpg

    (Russia historically had a large Muslim presence before modern madness began to strike)

  41. Cloggie on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:16 pm 

    Netanyahoo supports Trump and his Wall; he himself gave the good example and it works for 100%:

    https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/825371795972825089

    The Israeli wall:

    http://tinyurl.com/zvd8oru

    Heck, it could even become a tourist attraction, like the Chinese Great Wall, that for thousands of years kept the Mongols out!

  42. Cloggie on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:18 pm 

    I suspect that people who voted for Trump because they liked the idea of the wall actually liked the idea of job security.

    Not really, just don’t fancy too much being forced to fight civil wars, like invariably will happen in ethnic diverse cuntries like Yugoslavia, Iraq and Syria.

    Is there anyone participating in this forum who is not a citizen of planet Earth?

    Go hug a tree, John.

  43. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:25 pm 

    “Trudeau, Sturgeon “Welcome Those Fleeing Persecution, Terror And War Regardless Of Your Faith”
    http://tinyurl.com/zm9sffc

    Friggen awesome, you can have all of them and all the liberal snowflakes, Hollywood assholes, and whoever else is gut shot over real life. Canada can be one great big safe space for pussies.

  44. Apneaman on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:47 pm 

    Davy, we all the US has “different” values than Canada.

    Trump: ‘Torture works’

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/26/donald-trump-torture-works

    American officially sanctioned torture – Abu Ghraib Abuse Photos

    http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=8560

    Torture ‘counter to our values,’ say Canadian military commanders

    We ‘will not be involved in any type of torture, of any detained personnel, or anyone else for that matter’

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-militar-us-torture-1.3953970

    Davy, take a good long look at the pictures that represent America’s and Cheeto’s values (Americans gleefully torturing folks) and then get back to me with your fantasy that Canadians are just as bad. Make sure you raise your kids up with those fine values.

    Savages………..baha

  45. Apneaman on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:50 pm 

    The New Colossus

    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

    “Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she

    With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,

    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

  46. Apneaman on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 3:51 pm 

    Big Daddy Cheeto addresses the nation

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee6-sI9rdtA

  47. Apneaman on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 4:02 pm 

    clog the cock licker making shit up again. Pulled that less Muslim flights straight outta your ass. Dementia is quite common in men in their 70’s isn’t it?

    de·men·tia
    dəˈmen(t)SH(ē)ə/
    nounMEDICINE

    a chronic or persistent disorder of the mental processes caused by brain disease or injury and marked by memory disorders, personality changes, and impaired reasoning.

    or maybe it’s your other condition.

    “Pathological lying (also called pseudologia fantastica and mythomania) is a behavior of habitual or compulsive lying.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_lying

    Thanks fer sharing more of your “Alternative facts.”

  48. makati1 on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 4:58 pm 

    Ap, those same tortures work on Americans also. How soon does that begin?

    “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

  49. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 5:13 pm 

    Talk about values over in makati land hero Duerte just kills em. No need for torture.

  50. Davy on Sat, 28th Jan 2017 5:20 pm 

    “Torture ‘counter to our values,’ say Canadian military commanders”. Canadians don’t do anything with their military so why would they need torture. They have the Americans protecting them.

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