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Kunstler: Syriasly

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“Peace with Honor” was President Nixon’s anodyne phrase for futzing around as long as possible in Vietnam to conceal the reality that the US military was getting its ass kicked by what we had initially thought was a 98-pound weakling of a Third World country. That was a half-century ago and I remember it now at age 106 thanks to my diet of kale and pepperoni sticks. Not ironically, the long struggle finally ended a few years after Nixon quit the scene, with the last straggling American evacuees waiting desperately for helicopter airlifts off the US embassy roof. And now, of course, Vietnam is a tourism hot-spot.

And so just the other day, the latest POTUS declared (in his usual way) that “we’ll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now.” The utterance sent the neocon partisans in government into a paroxysm. Cries of “Say What?” echoed up and down the Great Mall. Which “other people” was Mr. Trump referring to? The United Auto Workers? Gandalf the Grey? The cast of Glee?

I doubt that the average Harvard faculty member can state with any conviction what the fuck is going on in Syria. Vietnam was like a simple game of Animal Lotto compared to the mystifying puzzle of Syria. And then, of course, once you get handle on who the players are, it’s another matter altogether to descry what US interests there might be.

One angle of the story is whether it is in America’s interest for Syria to become another failed state in a region of several other failed states. Whatever else you might say about US policy in that part of the world, the general result in places like Iraq, Libya, and Yemen has been anarchy and irresolvable factional conflict. In today’s world of nation-states, a central government is required to avoid that fate, and the embattled one in Syria happens to be the regime of Bashar al-Assad. The US has long militated for the overthrow of Assad, but I would also challenge you (and the Harvard faculty) to name any credible party or person who we have hypothetically proposed to replace him with.

You might argue that the Great Age of Nation States is winding down, that the world does not need them anymore, that they are the cause of too much strife and anguish. But then you would have to account for all the strife and anguish that occupied the world when it was composed of petty kingdoms, principalities, fiefdoms, and tribes. And, of course, following that logic you’d also have to inquire into the legitimacy of the US government — which, by the way, California is well into testing these days.

One might also propose that the battlefield of Syria, with its array of militant religious maniac armies, is just a proxy action for the tag-teams of the USA/Israel versus Russia/Iran. If so, the US has not been very clear or honest about it. Anyway, it has hardly been demonstrated that Russia is all that comfortable with Iran extending its influence to the Mediterranean Sea. I would take Russia’s presence in Syria as an attempt to block, or at least moderate, Iran’s influence there — which is one of the arguments for a US/Russia partnership in cleaning up the mess there.

That possible outcome has been hugely compromised by the RussiaRussiaRussia hysteria engineered by the neocon warhawks of the US permanent bureaucracy (a.k.a. the Deep State). The latest ploy by these players is the overcooked story of Vladimir Putin personally moving to poison the Russian/British double agent Skripal (and daughter) in Salisbury, UK. Given the extremely lethal nature of the supposed poison, Novichok, and the method supposedly used (smearing it on the Skripal doorknob), it’s hard to believe that the Skripals were able to walk to the park bench where they collapsed, nor that other persons ranging from the police to the medical examiners didn’t come into contact with the substance and fall ill. But this is the sort of cockamamie melodrama that it has come down to on our side of the gameboard.

The other part of the story worth considering is this: Syria, like other new-ish nations of the Middle East, was able to hugely increase its population in the post-WW2 era due to oil wealth (now all but gone in Syria), and other perqs of modernity like cheap grains for feeding all the newcomers. Dwindling oil revenue and severe drought (arguably induced by climate change) that caused crop failures commenced in 2006. So Syria became a workshop study in population overshoot and resource scarcity — problems that are sure to spread around other regions of the world in the years ahead. Nature’s way of correcting those imbalances is very ugly, and easily mistaken for mere politics.


82 Comments on "Kunstler: Syriasly"

  1. deadly on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 10:10 am 

    Let’s hear it from old George himself, the socialist who actually did do the writing. There is nothing like the real thing.

    In a prosperous country, above all in an imperialist country, left­wing politics are always partly humbug. There can be no real reconstruction that would not lead to at least a temporary drop in the English standard of life, which is another way of saying that the majority of left-wing politicians and publicists are people who earn their living by demanding something that they don’t genuinely want. They are red-hot revolutionaries as long as all goes well, but every real emergency reveals instantly that they are shamming. One threat to the Suez Canal, and ‘anti-Fascism’ and ‘defence of British interests’ are discovered to be identical.George Orwell

    Right from the horse’s mouth.

  2. Plantagenet on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 11:07 am 

    Kunstler is right—-interventing in a civil war in Syria is not something the US should be involved in.

    It was clearly a mistake for Obama to start a war in Libya, begin bombing Iraq again and then send US troops back into Iraq, and finally to intervene in the war in Syria. Lets hope Trump gets US forces out of there as soon as possible.


  3. GregT on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 11:51 am 


    “Sorry, much more complex than your intellectually light melodrama supporting your anti-American agenda”

    makati1 was quoting an article from Written by:

    “Jeremiah Johnson, the Nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United States Army Special Forces (Airborne). Mr. Johnson is also a Gunsmith, a Certified Master Herbalist, a Montana Master Food Preserver, and a graduate of the U.S. Army’s SERE school (Survival Evasion Resistance Escape).”

    Obviously an anti-American. LOL.

    “Billy 3rd world, I already showed you it is worse in Asia”

    You linked to yet another disinfo article from Zerohedge. Zerohedge has been identified by CEPA as spreading Russian disinformation and propaganda.

    CEPA – About

    “CEPA’s StratCom Program is an innovative, on-the-ground effort to monitor, collate, analyze, rebut and expose Russian disinformation in the countries of Central and Eastern Europe (CEE).”

  4. Cloggie on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 2:46 pm 

    “Oceania” was a nation described in George Orwell’s “1984” as being comprised of Britain (called “Airstrip One,”) and the United States. There were two other superpowers, namely Eurasia and Eastasia…“

    Map Orwell from “1984”, touches a nerve, certainly in 2018:

    If you skip political correctness, you could interpret this world map as follows:

    1. pink – Judaic State (Anglosphere)
    2. violet – Christian State (Paris-Berlin-Moscow)
    3. green – Confucian State (China)
    4. yellow – Islamic State

    Turkey is wrong; Ataturk’s secular forces are losing against Erdogan’s rising Islam.

    Brexit confirms role Britain as junior partner USA. Not European.

    Africa and South-America don’t really matter.


    1. mongrelized; Jews and their “goyim” from all corners of the globe. Jewish victory over white America and British. Cosmopolitan, leftist.
    2. White race, moving to the right, nationalism.
    3. Asian race – authoritarian socialism, with national undertones.
    4. Islamic fundamentalism, somewhat color blind, most religious-archaic people on earth.

    Oceania/Anglosphere – Big Brother is becoming reality with NSA and MI6, not to mention “social media” like Facebook and Google.

    NSA HQ:

    British version in Cheltenham:

    Nothing like this exists elsewhere.

    Oh, we’re building a wall to keep out the illegal aliens? …

    A wall will work in the opposite direction as well: to keep the taxpayer-serfs in. …

    Exactly my thoughts. This Wall could easily become dual mode after regime change in Washington. The Wall is build by Trump to make good on his campaign promise to keep third world invaders out. But if the Dems/Deep State return after Trump, it could very well be that the new regime will keep the Wall to keep (white) refugees from fleeing the country.

  5. fmr-paultard on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 3:36 pm 


    You of all people should know there’s no fixin’ stupid.

  6. Boat on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 6:50 pm 


    Those with money or connections have no trouble going over or through any wall. Think poor when thinking lacking mobility. Your slipping into another dream like state of the world works like you want it to.

  7. Cloggie on Tue, 3rd Apr 2018 10:16 pm 

    The Iron Curtain was very effective. The Eastern Block was one giant prison.

  8. Cloggie on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 12:17 am 

    Israel is being flooded by so-called “refugees” from Africa. The Netanyahu government in its infinite wisdom (and arrogance) had decided that these invaders should be send to those countries where resistance against immigration is currently the weakest: Germany and Canada.

    And now all of a sudden Netanyahu has retracted his wish. Apparently both countries did refuse the request from Jerusalem:

  9. makati1 on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 1:44 am 

    Didn’t someone try this long ago (Concorde) and go bankrupt because of the high ticket prices that few could afford?

    “Lockheed To Build NASA A Supersonic Jet Without The Sonic Boom”

    “If everything goes as plan, NASA and Lockheed could usher in a new, quieter era of supersonic air travel, with commercial service available some time in the mid-2020s.

    Another “F35” tax slave supported money pit that will never happen. The Us serfs will not be able to afford gas to go to Walmart by the ‘mid 2020s’. They certainly will not be sonic jetting to Europe or even across the Us.

  10. Davy on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 4:51 am 

    Billy it is all proven tech that is just another example of American technological inovations.
    “Popular Mechanics indicates that the X-plane will be “affordable” using parts from preexisting American military aircraft. ”The supersonic plane is designed to be affordable by using parts taken from other jets, such as the canopy of a T-38, the landing gear of an F-16, and various components from the F/A-18. The engine is a GE 414-400, the same engine used on the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. The contract awarded to Lockheed Martin to build the jet is worth $247.5 million.” “We’re honored to continue our partnership with NASA to enable a new generation of supersonic travel,” said Peter Iosifidis, Low-Boom Flight Demonstrator program manager, Lockheed Martin Skunk Works. “We look forward to applying the extensive work completed under QueSST to the design, build and flight test of the X-plane, providing NASA with a demonstrator to make supersonic commercial travel possible for passengers around the globe.”

  11. Anonymouse1 on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 5:13 am 

    Maybe all those kosher refugees could stay at your house cloggrhaham. You can make them some matzo ball soup, read to them from your torah. You know, show everyone what a fine upstanding humanitarian you are. And if you get tired of them hogging all the humus cloggen-fraud, getting rid of them will be no problem at all. Just tell them your stories from your days in the jewish underground during WWII. They will be begging for the authorities to deport them rather than sit through that shit.

  12. makati1 on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 5:28 am 

    Davy, no it is not “proven”. The F35 is a techie nightmare that YOU are paying for. The Us is so far behind China and Russia in tech there is no comparison.

    Failure to communicate: “Why America’s Two Top Fighter Jets Can’t Talk to Each Other.”

    “The F-22 and the F-35 were built with communication systems that don’t work together, a problem that’s going to take a lot of money to fix. …

    Still, the Air Force doesn’t plan to begin fixing the communications problem until 2021, when the F-22 fleet is scheduled to have the system upgraded.”

    Yep! The Us tech is …. bullshit.

  13. Davy on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 5:49 am 

    “Davy, no it is not “proven”. The F35 is a techie nightmare that YOU are paying for. The Us is so far behind China and Russia in tech there is no comparison.”

    Billy, look at the comment where did this supersonic plane say F35?

  14. Davy on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 5:54 am 

    Billy, any references to where US is so far behind China and Russia or is that just your emotions bubbling up?

  15. fmr-paultard on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 7:47 am 

    Stupid Aswang sitting on a powder keg and not knowing it. Retard Aswang spewing hate for America only ensure supertards carriers won’t come when genocide of foreigners in full effect.
    Accepting welfare for supertards and using phils as slaves is breeding resentments. Our offensive job is to broadcast contrast in poverty in phils to get the killing started.

    Duterte is sending the message that foreigners are not welcome but Aswang and foreigners,are stupid. They don’t get the message. That noble woman gunned down in daylight is,an example.

    Let’s take media offensive to them

  16. fmr-paultard on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 11:10 am 

    duterte total abandonmen of western influence is deep seated inferiority complex. who in their right mind would look forward to dishonest chinese bessides whitey hating africa?

    after duterte another whitey hater will come and eradication will be intense.

    killing their own kind is only a practice, a first step.

    with western institutions and UN keep breathing down duterte’s neck, it only intensify his hate for western instituions and drawing clsoer to comgrade xi.

    we need to intensify campaign to point out difference in stadard of living betwen phils and rich westerners there. get their killing spirit started. we need to go on the offense

  17. GregT on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 11:25 am 

    “we need to intensify campaign to point out difference in stadard of living betwen phils and rich westerners there. get their killing spirit started. we need to go on the offence”

    Fomenting the murdering of your fellow Americans living in the Philippines, just because somebody makes posts on an internet forum that you don’t like, is a little bit over the top tard.

    Would you not agree?

  18. Cloggie on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 12:20 pm 

    Didn’t someone try this long ago (Concorde) and go bankrupt because of the high ticket prices that few could afford?

    Next year it will be half a century ago (1969) that a French-British plane could fly to New York and arrive earlier than it had departed from Paris. In the end the “jet set” declined to cough up $11k for a ticket and the project was killed by an American plane from Continental that lost a piece of metal, minutes before the Concorde took off.

    It is highly unlikely that the US will manage to develop a plane for the ridiculous low amount of 250 million.

    There are some vague plans to pick up flying again with the old Concorde, they even managed to switch on the motors.

    I hope it all fails. We need the world to become bigger, not smaller.

  19. Cloggie on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 12:24 pm 

    we need to go on the offense.

    Merely hurling insults at each other is not going to cut it, supertard.

    How about sending your Wunderwaffe, I mean American women?

  20. fmr-paultard on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 12:30 pm 

    ktnx eurotard the word is offensive for both forms adj. and noun

  21. fmr-paultard on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 12:33 pm 

    if we don’t have the fighters it just means we can’t conduct warfare. but if kim campbell is around and know how to fly the a10 we could be killing tanks left and right.

  22. Cloggie on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 12:38 pm 

    Maybe all those kosher refugees could stay at your house cloggrhaham. You can make them some matzo ball soup, read to them from your torah. You know, show everyone what a fine upstanding humanitarian you are. And if you get tired of them hogging all the humus cloggen-fraud, getting rid of them will be no problem at all. Just tell them your stories from your days in the jewish underground during WWII. They will be begging for the authorities to deport them rather than sit through that shit.

    At some point Anonymouse1 picked up the idea that I must a kosher and with an unparalleled tenacity he keeps entertaining that idea, no matter what. That’s what you get if Louis Farrakhan is not around for proper spiritual guidance.


    Tell me Anonymouse1, does uncle Louis have an opinion about Hitler and WW2?

    Poor koshers, they thought they could use people of color as a weapon against whites. In Europe open antisemitism comes from 98% from Muslims (Euro’s just shut up about what they think, for the moment).

    A smart Jew by the name of Stephen Steinlight had already warned as early as 2001 that promoting immigration from the third world could backfire:

    If you read the article, everything your average Stormfront poster tells you about the connection between organized Jewry and promoting immigration is confirmed in the article, with a brutal honesty.

    Too late.

    James Howard Kunstler is right, America is going to disintegrate as a result of pumping in incompatible people by the 100 million.

  23. GregT on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 2:33 pm 

    “but if kim campbell is around and know how to fly the a10 we could be killing tanks left and right.”

    There’s that royal “we” again.

    I’m willing to bet tard, that not only have you never flown in an A10, that ‘they’ would shoot you dead in a heartbeat, if you ever even tried to fire one up.

    Now run along, be a good tard, and abide by ‘their’ rules, because if you don’t, you’ll find yourself idling away your time in a prison cell, working in a chain gang for the good ol’ boys, or worse.

  24. makati1 on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 7:25 pm 

    fmr, “we need to intensify campaign to point out difference in stadard of living betwen phils and rich westerners there. get their killing spirit started. we need to go on the offense”

    Hmm…. what do you really know about the Ps? Answer only the Western propaganda.

    You are aware that the richest people here are NOT Westerners but Filipinos.

    1. Henry Sy; $9.1 billion 2. Lucio Tan; $4.5 billion 3. Enrique Razon Jr.; $3.6 billion 4. John Gokongwei Jr.; $3.2 billion 5. David Consunji; $2.7 billion 6. Andrew Tan; $2.3 billion 7. Jaime Zobel de Ayala; $2.2 billion 8. George Ty; $1.7 billion 9. Roberto Ongpin; $1.5 billion 10. Eduardo Cojuangco Jr.; $1.4 billion”

    The people buying the expensive condos, etc, are NOT Westerners either. Foreigners cannot own land here. They can lease, and build but not own. Most Westerners here are tourists, married to Filipinas, students, or retired with the SRRV. Not wealthy. Get educated so you don’t sound stupid.

  25. Duncan Idaho on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 7:39 pm 

    Yep, my sister in law, one of the few female Filipina fly fishers that I know of, is currently in the PI.

  26. MASTERMIND on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 7:46 pm 

    The Collapse of Civilization Manifesto

    Peak oil is not a myth -The Royal Society of Chemistry

  27. makati1 on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 11:22 pm 

    Abuse of antibiotics is boomeranging on America…

    ‘More than 23,000 Americans die each year from infections caused by
    germs resistant to antibiotics. While antibiotic resistance (AR) threats vary
    nationwide, AR has been found in every state. And unusual resistance
    germs, which are resistant to all or most antibiotics tested and are
    uncommon or carry special resistance genes, are constantly developing
    and spreading. Lab tests uncovered unusual resistance more than
    200 times in 2017 in “nightmare bacteria” alone. With new resources
    nationwide, early and aggressive action—when even a single case is
    found—can keep germs with unusual resistance from spreading in health
    care facilities and causing hard-to-treat or even untreatable infections. For
    example, CDC estimates show that this aggressive approach could prevent
    1,600 cases of CRE* in one state over three years. Health departments can
    lead the Containment Strategy and act swiftly with health care facilities and
    CDC at the first sign of unusual resistance.”

    Invisible but deadly…

  28. MASTERMIND on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 11:42 pm 

    China was barely a statistical rounding error in 1978, with less than 1 percent of global trade, China rose to become in 2013 the world’s leading trading nation with almost a quarter of its annual flows. Nothing on this scale or speed has been witnessed before in history. Since 1970, Asia’s per capita incomes have increased fivefold. Even in Africa, the world’s worst performing continent, incomes have almost doubled. The west’s median income, meanwhile, has barely shifted in the last half century.

    In arguing for China’s entry to the World Trade Organization, Bill Clinton, the then US president, said globalization was ‘the economic equivalent of a force of nature, like wind or water’. In addition, he argued that China’s entry would reduce America’s bilateral trade defect by binding China to lower tariff rates on its imports. Following China’s WTO accession in 2001, America’s trade defect with China has leapt almost five fold. It is clear, in retrospect, that Beijing had better grasp of the global economy’s dynamics than Washington.

    In terms of purchasing power parity – measured by what you can buy in the local currency – China economy surpassed the US in 2014. Within a decade, give or take a few years, China will overtake America on more conventional dollar measures. By 2050 – a century after its communist revolution – China’s economy is likely to be twice the size of America’s and larger than all the Western economies combined. And by then, India’s economy will be roughly the same size as America’s.

    Edward Luce
    The Retreat of Western Liberalism
    Atlantic Monthly Press, New York – 2017

  29. MASTERMIND on Wed, 4th Apr 2018 11:42 pm 

    UN Population Division Immigration Replacement Plan for US, Europe, and Japan.

  30. Cloggie on Thu, 5th Apr 2018 3:44 pm 

    Forget about silly peak oil. This will put America to the real test:

  31. MASTERMIND on Thu, 5th Apr 2018 5:04 pm 

    Clogg how do you forget peak oil when we discovered the least amount of new oil last year, while using the most oil ever?

    Oil discoveries in 2017 hit all-time low –Houston Chronicle

    Peak oil is not a myth -The Royal Society of Chemistry

  32. Cloggie on Thu, 5th Apr 2018 6:22 pm 

    New book implicates South-African government in being complicit in anti-white farm-murders:

    Right-wing politicians in Holland and Australia fear that an anti-white genocide is brewing in SA:

    Nice opportunity for continental European troops to get its muscles flexed and practice on a very easy target and separate groups of people that never should have been living together in the first place. SA descending into chaos could be a sinister precursor of things to come in the US and a greater challenge for European and Russian military to ensure that in North-America the “right” people don’t lose and as such get the Anglo-Zionist beast tamed once and for all.

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