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Kunstler: Christmas in Flyover Land

Public Policy

Last year, a local guy started renovating a restaurant on Main Street that has been shuttered for at least fifteen years. He’d retired from the army and started a company that made a fortune clearing landmines in faraway lands where US nation-building plans went awry. Wasn’t that a ripe business opportunity! He’s from here and loves the village and married his high school sweetheart — and would like the place to come back to life.

He’s partnered up with another guy who intends to open a bistro with a bar, a fireplace, and supposedly a boutique distillery operation in the back. That would give some people in town a reason to leave the house at 5 o’clock in the afternoon, when the day’s work is done — people like me who work alone all day. It could also give the citizens of this community a comfortable place to talk to each other about their lives and the place where we all live, and what we might do about things here. That’s called local politics.

I’ll refrain from tossing off judgments about the exterior treatment for now. Draw your own conclusions. I haven’t seen the inside and there’s butcher paper taped up on the windows while they finish in there. It looks like they’ll open early in the new year. There hasn’t been a comfortable public gathering place on Main Street in a long time. There’s a “tasting room” at a local small brewery down the block, but it’s hardly bigger than a couple of broom-closets and the New York Liquor Authority has an asinine regulation that literally forbids comfortable seating in such a designated establishment. Stools only. And only a few of those. What kind of culture does that to itself?

Ours apparently. When you get down to it, the sickness at the heart of our nation these days is the result of countless bad choices, large and small, that we’ve made collectively over decades, including the ones made by our elected officialdom. The good news is that we could potentially move in the opposite direction and start making better choices. However deficient and unappetizing you think Mr. Trump is, and how crudely unorthodox his behavior, that equation is what got enough people to vote for him. The strenuous efforts to antagonize him, disable him, and get rid of him by any means necessary — including police-state tactics, bad faith inquisitions, and outright sedition — have prevented the nation as a whole from entertaining a realistic new consensus for making better choices. In fact, it has achieved just the opposite: a near civil war, edition 2.0.

All the people of America, including the flyovers, are responsible for the sad situation we’re in: this failure to reestablish a common culture of values most people can subscribe to and use it to rebuild our towns into places worth caring about. Main Street, as it has come to be, is the physical manifestation of that failure. The businesses that used to occupy the storefronts are gone, except for second-hand stores. Nobody in 1952 would have believed this could happen. And yet, there it is: the desolation is stark and heartbreaking. Even George Bailey’s “nightmare” scene in It’s a Wonderful Life depicts the supposedly evil Pottersville as a very lively place, only programmed for old-fashioned wickedness: gin mills and streetwalkers. Watch the movie and see for yourself. Pottersville is way more appealing than 99 percent of America’s small towns today, dead as they are.

The dynamics that led to this are not hard to understand. The concentration of retail commerce in a very few gigantic corporations was a swindle that the public fell for. Enthralled like little children by the dazzle and gigantism of the big boxes, and the free parking, we allowed ourselves to be played. The excuse was “bargain shopping,” which actually meant we have sent the factories to distant lands and eliminated your jobs, and all the meaning and purpose in your lives — and cheap stuff from Asia is your consolation prize. Enjoy…

The “bones” of the village are still standing but the programming for the organism of a community is all gone: gainful employment, social roles in the life of the place, confidence in the future. For a century starting in 1850, there were at least five factories in town. They made textiles and later on, paper products and, in the end, toilet paper, ironically enough. Yes, really. They also made a lot of the sod-busting steel ploughs that opened up the Midwest, and cotton shirts, and other stuff. The people worked hard for their money, but it was pretty good money by world standards for most of those years. It allowed them to eat well, sleep in a warm house, and raise children, which is a good start for any society. The village was rich with economic and social niches, and yes, it was hierarchical, but people tended to find the niche appropriate to their abilities and aspirations — and, believe it or not, it is better to have a place in society than to have no place at all, which is the sad situation for so many today. Homelessness in America runs way deeper than just the winos and drug addicts living on the big city sidewalks.

I’ve written a ton about the bad choice of suburbanizing the USA and all its subsidiary ill-effects, and yet it’s a subject so rich that you can hardly exhaust it. It has produced an entropic wasting disease on our country so complex in symptoms that all the certified PhD economists and sociologists of the Ivy League and the land-grant diploma mills can barely diagnose the illness, or calculate the pain it has caused. Not a small part of this is the utter and abject absence of artistry expressed in the places we’ve built since 1945.

Our Main Street flaunts that boldly. The 1960-vintage post office looks like a soviet lunch-counter — or, more specifically, the box that it came in. What were they thinking? The video store looks like a muffler shop. The graceful four-story hotel that stood at the absolute center of town, and burned down in 1957, was replaced by a one-story drive-in bank. The façade re-doos of the 1970s and 80s display a mindboggling array of bad choices in claddings, colors, proportioning, and embellishment. It’s as if the entire world of aesthetics had died in the canebrakes of the Solomon Islands in 1944, and afterward nobody realized that something in America had gone missing. It’s particularly dismaying when you see the efforts that earlier generations made to instill some beauty in the things they built, with a few examples still standing for all to wonder at and dote on.

The damage done can be undone. It’s really a question of what it might take and that’s a big question because it will almost surely take a shock to the system. That shock could come as soon as the next two weeks — as not a few observers have predicted — in the form of a gross financial dislocation. The ongoing mysterious action in the “re-po” markets suggests that some kind of black hole has gaped open in the banking cosmos and is sucking literally hundreds of billions of dollars into an alternative universe. Guess we’ll have to stand by on that. The shale oil orgy is probably peaking, and the after-effects of that will be pretty harsh, but it might take a couple more years to play out. The weak leg of the stool these days seems to be our politics, the dangerous deformities of which I set forth in this blog regularly. (Some readers object to hearing about it, of course, for reasons I must regard as  peevish and specious.) Most likely, the shocks will come in combinations from banking, from the rest of the actual economy, and from these deadly “gotcha” politics.

You can see the humble beginnings of change around here, or at least an end to some of the practices and behaviors I’ve described above. The K-Mart shut down last March. It left the town without a general merchandise store — besides the Dollar Store, which sells stuff that fell off a truck somewhere in China. But the chain stores will have to go down if we’re ever going to rebuild networks of local and regional commerce and bring Main Street back to life. And you must be aware that chain stores are going down by the thousands all around the country, the so-called retail apocalypse. These things have to die for a new economic ecosystem to emerge, and it looks like the process is underway. I hope the fast food joints are next. At least we’re getting a new independent bistro in town.

The landscape around here is composed of tender hills and little hollows that precede the Green Mountains of Vermont, ten miles down the pike. Apart from its stunning beauty, it’s not bad farmland, either, and the rugged topography lends itself to small scale farming which is a good thing because that’s the coming trend. I maintain that farming will eventually become the center of the next economy here as life in the USA is compelled to downsize and re-localize. We could make a few things again, too, because a river runs through town with many hydro sites — waterfalls where small factories once stood — and that river leads to the mighty Hudson four miles downstream. The Hudson can take you around the world or deep into the interior of North America via the Erie and Champlain canals that run off the Hudson.

For the moment though, the country faces that set of convulsions I call the long emergency, with politics at center stage just now. The locals, myself included, have strung up the colored lights and set out the effigies of Santa and his reindeer. I love Christmas, the trappings, the music, and the sense that we’re obliged to bring some enchantment into our lives when the days are shortest and darkest. I doubt we can Make America Great Again in the Trump sense, but we can reanimate our nation’s life, and re-enchant our daily doings in it, and learn to care about a few things again.

I’ll be putting together my usual vain and starry-eyed Forecast 2020 the following Monday, with a regular blog in between on Friday. Merry Christmas, readers! And thank you for being here!


94 Comments on "Kunstler: Christmas in Flyover Land"

  1. rocco on Mon, 23rd Dec 2019 9:25 pm 

    Excellent article, but very depressing to read the thoughts of the last few thinking humans in New York State.

  2. Cloggie on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 12:10 am 

    Donnie rants against wind turbines and keeps the US at a distance behind Eurasia, all to the geopolitical advantage of Mackinder’s “World Heartland”:

    “I never understood wind. I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody,” he said.

    “I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous – if you are into this – tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?”

    Rant of a raving lunatic. But at least he attacks the (((media))) bigly and splits America in two pieces for us Europeans. Good man.

    “Donald Trump renews his attack on wind turbines saying they ‘kill many bald eagles,’ knock 50 per cent off house values and calls himself an expert saying ‘I’ve studied it better than anybody’”

    Dutch American sacked as CEO of Boeing after company nose-dived on his watch:

    “Boeing fires CEO Dennis Muilenburg over 737 MAX crisis and just days after Starliner spacecraft mission was aborted – as shares in company rise 3% in early trading”

    On behalf of Airbus: thanks Dennis.

    Giuliani attacks Soros:

    “Giuliani says investigators are ‘jealous a**holes’ and claims Soros is ‘hardly a Jew’ in rambling new interview”

    Hit him hard, Adolphe, errr Rudolphe!

  3. Cloggie on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 12:14 am 

    The strenuous efforts to antagonize him, disable him, and get rid of him by any means necessary — including police-state tactics, bad faith inquisitions, and outright sedition — have prevented the nation as a whole from entertaining a realistic new consensus for making better choices. In fact, it has achieved just the opposite: a near civil war, edition 2.0.

    B-b-but I thought empire dave had said that the conflict was confined to Washington only? Has he been lying?

  4. Cloggie on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 12:54 am 

    For the moment though, the country faces that set of convulsions I call the long emergency, with politics at center stage just now. The locals, myself included, have strung up the colored lights and set out the effigies of Santa and his reindeer. I love Christmas, the trappings, the music, and the sense that we’re obliged to bring some enchantment into our lives when the days are shortest and darkest. I doubt we can Make America Great Again in the Trump sense, but we can reanimate our nation’s life, and re-enchant our daily doings in it, and learn to care about a few things again.

    Kunstler is more of a Teuton than a Heeb, always liked him. He doesn’t fall for the maniacal neocon urge to drive entire nations into war or insane attempts to conquer the entire world, in which “they” almost succeeded after the fall of the USSR and “they” had the US, Europe and Russia.

    (((Charles Krauthammer))) – The Unipolar Moment.

    It’s all over now. Get ready for the Multipolar Moment, after empire.

  5. Davy on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 3:10 am 

    “B-b-but I thought empire dave had said that the conflict was confined to Washington only? Has he been lying?”

    cloggo, nowhere in this country is there anything like a real CW2 with armies and blood. It is confined to digital politics and the cameras are in DC. Normal people are too busy making a living. Different regions still do their thing. San Francisco is a long way from Springfield, MO. If these two places were on the other side of a river competing for livelihood, we could see a CW2 but there are worlds apart. Cloggo, you live in the abstract and distant digital window with fantasy blinds. You are far far away in a land where you should be spending time with your own people. Instead you are self-absorbed Eurotard in Anglo derangement. This is one of those blame games for your own failings and your hurt pride of having your ass kicked years ago when you were not even born. You want so much for a Yankee CW2 that you see it every time you look through that fake news digital window. The country is awash in violence of this sort or that but it has always been the case, cloggo. I do think the country will break apart when globalism collapses and the world descend into a harsher smaller world. Before globalism ends your EU will end so we are following you eurotards down the path to a new and smaller world. It is easier for We Americans to be one big country. That is all we know. You eurotards on the other hand have rich private histories and animosities that are entrenched in your cultures. This ensures the grand PBM you worship will never materialize

  6. Davy on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 3:23 am 

    “It’s all over now. Get ready for the Multipolar Moment, after empire.”

    Cloggo, it was over the moment the tanks rolled into Iraq and then Afghanistan. That was the wrong turn the US took towards unipolar power projection. Empire has been over for years now but you still live that day over and over like an old war veteran wearing his uniform with his many medals. You live the conflict and violence in most of your comments. You glorify war and conflict as if it is daily bread and butter. You manufacture battles and weave together a tapestry of lies to justify this fantasy. The world is an interconnected mess of value chains and individuals striving to get rich and live the good life. Most people are so far down the food chain they are just walked over like the old stones in your town centers. The world is multi-polar now thanks to China and Putin. I don’t think the world has changed much since it became multi-polar. It is still a mess and will remain this way the reason being humans don’t scale unipolar or multipolar globally. They scale in local settings with small populations and consumption habits. This means the global world you are so fond of will end too. Your PBM empire that is an odd concoction of Napoleon and the glories of white European slaughter and conquest is a fraud too just like most of what comes out of your pie hole.

  7. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 3:33 am 

    Hey Clogg

    When is the last time you were touched by a woman?


  8. Davy on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 4:25 am 

    But but Eurasians are going to fight the Anglos and all:

    “Turkey Can’t Handle New Refugee Explosion & Greece Will Be First To Feel Impact: Erdogan” zero hedge

    “At a moment Erdogan has his hands dirty in Syria and is preparing to get more militarily involved in Libya, Turkey’s president has yet again threatened Europe with a refugee horde so large no country will be able to handle it. He’s now specifically threatened Greece as being among the first to bear the brunt of the first waves of refugees unleashed by Turkey. His threats are now centering on the major uptick in airstrikes by Russia and Syria on Idlib province, said to number in the “hundreds” since a new operation began on Dec.16. Since then, tens of thousands of civilians living under al-Qaeda’s Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) have reportedly fled. “Turkey cannot handle a fresh wave of migrants from Syria, President Tayyip Erdogan said on Sunday, warning that European countries will feel the impact of such an influx if violence in Syria’s northwest is not stopped,” Reuters reports”

  9. JuanP on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 4:26 am 

    I’m so depressed

  10. Davy on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 5:01 am 

    I’m so delusional

  11. Davy on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 5:21 am 


    “As you approach the Port of Rotterdam, Europe’s largest, the usual sights come into focus: cranes, barges, shipping containers, seagulls. But down a busy industrial road toward the water, something surprising appears on the horizon: cows. Thirty-five Dutch Meuse-Rhine-Issel cows, to be exact. “Because of global warming, the world is sinking and shrinking,” said Peter van Wingerden, owner and CEO of Floating Farm, the world’s first floating dairy farm…His floating farm is a three-storey structure, where the bottom floor is below sea level. The cows live on the top floor, but can wander down a ramp onto a field on the shore next to their floating home. They feed on discarded grass clippings from local fields and golf courses, as well as potato peels and their favourite beer broth from local breweries. The manure they produce is then used to fertilize local parks and playing fields, including the pitch for one of Rotterdam’s professional soccer teams, Feyenoord. “Cows are the ultimate biomass upcycle machine,” said van Wingerden. “Ours is a circular process going from cow to city to cow.”

  12. Davy on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 5:57 am 

    “El-Erian Warns: “My Main Worry Is Europe” the market

    “Mohamed El-Erian is convinced that the world is nearing a tipping point. According to the internationally renowned economist who coined the term «New Normal», the faith of the global economy depends on a successful hand-off from monetary to fiscal policy and structural reforms. Otherwise, the world will sink into a mire of financial volatility and political collapse, he fears…In his view, Europe is getting much closer to a fateful junction. If the European economy hits stall speed, chances of a recession are increasing, Mr. El-Erian argues. Furthermore, he cautions that the U.S.-China deal will be a short-term truce since trade is no longer just about economics but also about national security…What’s the endgame in this evolution?…I don’t know. I worry that we have entered a period of deglobalization and that’s concerning because neither the global economy nor the financial markets are wired for deglobalization. So I’m not as optimistic as others that the mini-deal between China and the U.S. will lead to a long-term resolution. We have weaponized the economic tools, and the minute you do that, it’s very hard to step back…Why? Many people are saying that European economic data is bottoming out and we’re going to get a V-shaped recovery. But there’s a risk we’re going to see an L-shaped course, and that the Eurozone gets stuck with growth rates of 1% or less. That’s not fast enough, given the structural and financial vulnerabilities. Ironically, Europe is now recognizing that monetary policy is not the solution. People agree that more negative interest rates are likely to cause more harm than good. Also, people have identified policies for a hand-off from an excessive reliance on Central Banks to a more comprehensive growth strategy. But the problem in Europe is politics: They don’t allow for a quick implementation of these sorts of measures.”

  13. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 6:02 am 

    Biden: Trump should release his taxes or shut up about corruption

  14. fwsmj on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 6:05 am 

    Davy on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 5:57 am

    “El-Erian Warns: “My Main Worry Is Europe” the market

    “Mohamed El-Erian

    screw muzzies

    Chad: Muslims murder 14 people in jihad massacre at fishing village

    Dec 23, 2019 3:00 pm By Robert Spencer 4 Comments

    Why do I say “Muslims” did this when it was “Boko Haram”? Because Boko Haram is a Muslim group that is acting on Islamic principles as it understands those principles when it carries out attacks such as this one. The establishment media does all it can to obscure the motivating ideology behind such attacks. I don’t.

  15. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 6:13 am 

    The global fertility crash

    As birthrates fall, countries will be forced to adapt or fall behind.

    Don’t worry there are plenty of third world migrants who can replenish (replace) the ranks.


  16. Sissyfuss on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 8:47 am 

    ” I have studied them better than anybody.” Cloggenhoffen, it must really stain your diapers that an illiterate braggart understands wind turbines more so than even you. The stable genius with the mushroom penis knows all and sees all. Look at how he has brought our country together and made it greater than before. You can really pick them, Clomnicient.

  17. Cloggie on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 11:25 am 

    Sweden moving to the right:

    It looks like they are going to have a *white* Christmas, there up north!

    Merry Christmas to ya all!

  18. Cloggie on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 12:46 pm 

    1100 million Hindus just decided that 400 million Muslims and Buddhists no longer exist:

    “‘This Is Not Just a Muslim Fight.’ Inside the Anti-Citizenship Act Protests Rocking India”

    Looks like something similar to what China does to its Uighurs.

    Welcome to the identitarian world order of the 21st century, soon in a theater near you too.


    Now repeat after me: “diversity is our strength!”

  19. Cloggie on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 1:15 pm 

    German 20:00 news: alltime-record Christmas shopping.

    Oohhh, ze Kollaps, oh ze Rezession! Ze end is near!


    German finance minister asks German population to fly less.

  20. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 1:17 pm 

    Clogg if I was you I would be getting out of dodge soon. Europe is the worlds second largest oil importer. Remember just a few percent shortage in America during the 70’s caused all hell to break lose. Imagine when Europe has a 20 percent or larger shortage.

    Remember the USSR collapsed from an oil shortage. -(CIA 77)

  21. Duncan Idaho on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 1:20 pm 

    “Remember the USSR collapsed from an oil shortage. ”
    The USSR collapsed from a oil surplus.

  22. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 1:24 pm 

    Brandenburg gate 80 years ago vs now

    Suck it clogg!


  23. Sissyfuss on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 2:48 pm 

    Cloggedbiosphere, your identarian colostomy bag of knowledge is leaking again. European countries are beginning down the road of a lowered standard of living and they don’t need more dinner guests at the table. Yes, ethnicity, religion, and lack of cultural similarities play into it but the cause is in the exodus, not the competing cultures.

  24. Cloggie on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 3:50 pm 

    Brandenburg gate 80 years ago vs now

    Well, at least we agree on who really won WW2, right?

    If you sick enough Soviet, Anglo and Polish Lilliputians against the German Gulliver, they might even win the war for you on the basis of sheer numbers, energy and resources:

    But remember, geopolitics is like a soccer competition with every new season new chances… and boy do we have a different league now… and not to your advantage.

    This was the stupid kike who accidentally sabotaged the NWO by promoting Putin to power, in the expectation he would do the bidding of the kosher oligarchs. Now that was a mistake! Poor Berezovski had little choice but to commit suicide… out of pure embarrassment:

    As a result, this time around France, Russia and China are with Germany, against you, if push comes to shove. Don’t take it from me, I might be a Natzi, the ADL has warned you against; take if from one of your smarter water carriers:

    Trust me, in these days you don’t want to be an Anglo or a jew.

    It’s going to hurt a little.

    How did your fellow kike gloat when he had pressured the British in their war guarantee for Poland? Ah yes:

    “There will not be enough Germans left worth bolshevizing when the war is over”

    They knew exactly what they were doing: setting Germany up for the rape.

    But this is 2019.

    All Eurasia needs to do is anticipate CW2 and behave like the Soviets did outside of Warsaw-1944: enjoy a smokey, while Poles and Germans were slaughtering each other, after the Poles, not the brightest bulbs in the Christmas tree, had begun their insurrection a little too early.

    See mobby, it is very difficult for you NOT to act in the interest of Eurasia. I therefore like you. Now let me give you a pat on the back, in a cordial fashion. You’re a good lad. Now give these white suckers a hard time, putting your third world shock troops to good use and completely demoralize whitey, so they will be screaming for continental Europe to intervene… and we can solve the Anglo-Zionist problem the white race has, once and for all.

    We got rid of the Huns and the Mongols. We will get rid of the Khazar menace as well.

  25. Cloggie on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 4:05 pm 

    Hey look, American smarties discover uncle Cloggs 2nd law of geopolitics:

    2: “those who master a new source of energy first, is rewarded “with a century””

    The first law is: “if you want to win a world war, enter it last”.

    “Offshore Wind: Can the United States Catch up with Europe?”

    “Key Findings”

     Europe has more than 90 percent of the world’s total installed offshore wind capacity, and will continue to
    dominate the offshore wind market for years to come.

     Differing estimates say Europe will have 23.5 – 40 GW of offshore wind by 2020, and 43.8 – 150 GW by 2030.

     The United States is expected to ramp up its deployment of offshore wind—with three gigawatts of offshore wind by 2020, 22 GW by 2030, and 86 GW by 2050—which will spur the development of a U.S. supply chain.

     China, Japan, South Korea, India, and Taiwan all have ambitious offshore wind targets, adding up to 35 GW of new offshore wind capacity by 2020.

    European companies have decades of experience installing offshore wind farms, and stand to gain the most from offshore wind’s global expansion.

    Note, this is from an American source.

  26. Kevin Cobley on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 4:22 pm 

    Excusing Trump, a man who Americans elected knowing full well his string of bankruptcies costing ordinary workers many millions, his outright dishonesty on display in full view of the public with his fabricated claims that Obama was born in Kenya.
    Trump is a criminal and traitor cosying up to Russia and North Korea, there aren’t any excuses for him no matter how hard Kunstler tries.

  27. Cloggie on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 4:37 pm 

    There is still a chance the US will fall apart without violence, just like the USSR did:

    “White America is quietly self-segregating”


    “California population growth slowest since 1900 as residents leave, immigration decelerates”

    Translation: whitey is fleeing eastwards and the invading messicans are taking over.

  28. makati1 on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 6:10 pm 

    Kevin, Trump is just what the US needs at this point in time. Someone to shake up the pot, expose the lies, and basically, destroy what is left of the imperial bully, Amerika. I hope he gets another four years to finish the job.

    If you think any of the psycho freaks running against him will save the US, you are really a fool. They just stole another trillion dollars of YOUR future in the new spending spree. What is a few million when they can waste trillions?

    Fun to watch from foreign shores. Pass the popcorn.

  29. makati1 on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 6:14 pm 

    BTW: If you are over 50, you know he paints an accurate picture of Amerika.

  30. REAL Green on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 8:06 pm 

    Hay Cloggmeister Sir! How’d you git those REAL Neat little box type thangs on yer erlier comment? Davys goin even more nuts then usual over that.

  31. The Board on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 8:48 pm 

    Please everyone. Do not feed the Davy troll.

  32. I AM THE MOB on Tue, 24th Dec 2019 11:27 pm 

    The most of the popular Christmas songs, including “White Christmas”, “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer”, and “Let it Snow” were all written by Jews.

    This is why they run the world. They are the brightest.

  33. makati1 on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 12:34 am 

    MOB, they are the most arrogant and greedy, not the brightest. Actually Asians have higher average IQs.

    “…countries with the highest IQs adhere to Far-Eastern belief systems such as Buddhism, Taoism and Shintoism.”

    “…the more you know about religion, the less likely you are to be religious.”

  34. Anonymouse on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 12:56 am 

    I AM THE DAVYMOB, has always had a soft spot in his soft little head for the jew. Also helps explain why he has always been so fond and protective of his precious kloggjude.

    Rats have a sort of intelligence and tend to work together in their little rat-packs as well. That doesn’t mean anyone should admire or shower them with praise either, DAVYMOB. At the end of the day, they just vermin no matter how ‘successful’ they appear to ignorant missura hicks like you, MOBsock

  35. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 1:34 am 


    That is because Asian countries cherry pick their top students to be counted for their IQ results.

    Asia and esp china is nothing more than a bunch of docile sheeple. They have given us shit in terms of science and art. They never have and never will.

  36. Anonymouse on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 3:35 am 

    blow jobs for my boys on Christmass. Love you mak and juan

  37. JuanP on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 3:36 am 

    OOps, Anon, you spilled Christmas rong. dumbass but thanks fur the oral sex. my favorite

  38. Cloggie on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 3:40 am 

    The most of the popular Christmas songs, including “White Christmas”, “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer”, and “Let it Snow” were all written by Jews.

    This is why they run the world. They are the brightest.

    I AM THE KIKE has dropped his pretense of “being of Scottish descent” and goes full blast kosher and volunteers to put a little piece of yellow cloth on his chest, so I don’t have to do it.

    What took you so long?

    OK, so if I understand you correctly, all it takes to claim the title “smartest people in the world” is to write “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer”.

    Uhuh. Standards are dropping faster here than WTC1-2-7, demolished by the Mossad.

    Haendel, a German, not a jew. Runs circles around Rudolph the Reindeer.

  39. Davy on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 4:02 am 

    “This is why they run the world. They are the brightest.”

    cloggo, you ever done business with a Jew? If so get back to me on the brightest. Jews are recklessly ruthless in business. They drive off business with bad Jew behavior. They end up doing business together in their group enclaves. You should admire Jews for the way the discriminate against outsiders. They are definitely not inclusive. They are also ignorant of good business practices that cultivate employee and customer loyalty. That is just my experience with a few I dealt with. The full spectrum of brightness is much wider than you IQ blinded people understand. IQ alone is not very sophisticated an indicator of brightness. A more sophisticated measure of brightness would be a blend of skills and talents of course narrow-minded extremist can’t understand blending because blending violates their narrow intelligence parameters.

  40. Anonymouse on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 4:09 am 

    Kloggjude does business with jews all the time dumbass. He buys his Depends undergarments(tm) in bulk, and all the discount off-brand humus he can stand from his fellow tribe-creatures. I know this is hard for you wrap your pea-brain around davy turd, but kloggjude has 1st hand knowledge of what it means to deal with the jew. You might say it is in his blood, thin and sickly as that is.

  41. Anonymouse on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 4:16 am 

    blow jobs for all my little elves BTW

  42. JuanP on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 4:16 am 


  43. Gaia on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 4:17 am 

    Annoy, are you queer?

  44. Anonymouse on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 4:17 am 


  45. Cloggie on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 4:52 am 

    “cloggo, you ever done business with a Jew?”

    Uh no, thanks to Dolfie there are hardly any left here.

    And the remaining ones are all in parties dedicated to the multicultural destruction of the Netherlands:

  46. Shower Time on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 5:09 am 

    A Jew will always tell you what happened to him, but never why.

  47. Davy on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 5:09 am 

    “Uh no, thanks to Dolfie there are hardly any left here.”

    So you are admitting you have little experience with them personally. The extent of your experience is like with the US and that is from extremist sites that tell you what you want to hear.

  48. JuanP is stupid on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 5:11 am 

    OH, dear, stupid is up

    This is from stupid:
    Shower Time said A Jew will always tell you what happened to him, b…

  49. on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 6:36 am 

    The sad reality of what is happening is I have weaponized the bad behavior of taking people identities and using multiple fake handles. This then gets used against me and the result is a forum any normal person with a rational and intelligent mind will avoid. I don’t care because for me this is about a turf war and I have nothing better to do with my meaningless widdle life.
    I like to think this is my own private forum to say and do as I please. It isn’t.

    I want, no, I DEMAND this place to submit to my will. They won’t.

    If I don’t get what I want then nobody does cus i think i’m special.

    I’m not.
    I don’t care to contribute either I just want to have this place to myself and play my mind games and copy and paste off topic spam and pretend i’m neutering everyone else.

    Insane huh?

    Obviously, this is driving people off but who cares. I don’t cus i’m a liar and a hypocrite. And a selfish dumbass.


  50. I AM THE MOB on Wed, 25th Dec 2019 6:37 am 

    Are Jews Smarter Than Everyone Else?

    “In Commentary in April 2007, Charles Murray, the coauthor of The Bell Curve (1994), again made the claim that “Jews are smarter” than everyone else (Murray, 2007). In The Bell Curve, he and his late (and Jewish) coauthor, Richard Herrnstein, first presented their argument about the intellectual superiority of “Ashkenazic Jews of European origins,” who “test higher than any other ethnic group (Murray and Herrnstein, 1994). Jews in America and Britain have an overall IQ mean somewhere between a half and a full standard deviation above the mean, with the source of the difference concentrated in the verbal component.”

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