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John Bolton likely to turn up heat on Iran and boost oil prices

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  • The appointment of John Bolton as his national security advisor signals President Trump is now looking to pursue a more hard-line approach against U.S. adversaries, like Iran or Venezuela.
  • Bolton, a former U.N. ambassador, has said the U.S. should act pre-emptively against North Korean and Iranian nuclear programs, and his arrival makes it more likely the U.S. will drop out of the Iran nuclear deal.
  • Oil should begin to react to geopolitical pressures around the May 12 renewal deadline for the Iranian deal and when Venezuela goes to the polls later in the month, according to analysts.

President Donald Trump‘s pick for national security advisor signals a willingness by the administration to take a more aggressive stand against U.S. adversaries like Iran or Venezuela —and that could mean higher oil prices in the very near future.

Analysts said the appointment of John Bolton, former U.N. ambassador, makes it even more likely that the Trump administration will withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal when it is up for review in May, and tensions could ramp up against the Middle Eastern country. Bolton succeeds H.R. McMaster, who resigned.

“I can’t think of a more hawkish appointment than John Bolton,” said Helima Croft, global head of commodity strategy at RBC. “He’s a powerful advocate for a confrontational approach.”

Croft also said the appointment leaves the question of whether Defense Secretary James Mattis looks like he’s the only one representing a moderate foreign policy at this point. “Are the Iranians seeing the writing on the wall? Will they curb their activities? His appointment should put the fear of God in them, but who knows.”

Bolton has advocated for pre-emptive action against both Iran and North Korea because of their nuclear programs. His first act may be to successfully encourage Trump to end the Iran nuclear deal, struck with Iran by the U.S., some members of the European Union and other countries as a way to curb its nuclear program in return for ending sanctions on the country, including its oil.

Mattis and former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson had been reluctant to abandon the Iran deal, which also included China and Russia. Further financial sanctions against the country have also been discussed.

Venezuela’s economic crisis is complicating matters and damaging its energy production capabilities. Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro is running for re-election despite the objections of the U.S. and other countries that the election is unfair. Venezuelan oil already is coming off the market, and could continue to decline as the country’s energy infrastructure deteriorates.

“Even if it’s just additional sanctions on Iran, that could hurt investment in the country and reduce flows of their oil. The market would really miss their oil this time around because of Venezuela,” said John Kilduff of Again Capital. “Because of Iran’s advanced ballistic missile capabilities, the other countries have offered additional sanctions to try to keep Trump in the nuclear pact.”

Oil prices were higher Friday, with West Texas Intermediate futures trading over $65, a nearly 2 percent gain. Gold, benefiting Friday from fears about trade wars, could also gain if the U.S. becomes more aggressive, not just with Iran but others like Venezuela or North Korea. Gold futures for April rose 1.5 percent Friday, to $1,347 per ounce.

Croft said May will be important for oil prices, with the Iran deal up for renewal May 12 and the Venezuela election on May 20. “If they go forward with those elections, we could see much more coercive economic policies toward Venezuela. That’s when the oil market might start paying attention,” she said.

“The oil market is underappreciating the importance of the personnel changes,” she added. “They’re underpricing the personnel changes.”

Global oil demand has been improving and the pact between OPEC and Russia has helped steady prices and send them higher. Growing U.S. production from shale fields like the Permian Basin has added supply while Russia and Saudi Arabia have reduced theirs.

Kilduff said geopolitical tensions have moved prices higher recently, including anti-Iranian comments from Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman, who said that if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, so will Saudi Arabia.

In an interview on CBS’ “60 Minutes,” the prince also compared Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, to Adolph Hitler. The prince is currently in the U.S., and met with Trump earlier this week.

Saudi Arabia and Iran are engaged in a proxy war in Yemen, and are at odds on Syria, which Iran has supported.

Croft said if the U.S. drops out of the nuclear deal it could take an even harsher posture toward Iran. “The question is, are we talking about efforts to economically isolate Iran, or are we talking about efforts to change the regime?” she said. “This is where the Permian makes things different. If this had been 2010, oil would be much higher. There’s a view that U.S. short cycle oil makes a difference. We could just make up for anything.”

But Croft doesn’t see proof that U.S. shale could make up for a shortfall in the world market.

“I haven’t gotten any evidence,” she said. “I don’t see any signs that OPEC is going to be quick to rush in and save things.” She said with the changes in Washington, it’s possible there could be 200,000 to 300,000 Iranian barrels off the market by the fourth quarter, and Venezuelan production losses could total 1 million barrels.

Bolton served in the Reagan administration, and President George W. Bush named him undersecretary of state for arms control and international security. Bush also appointed him as his representative to the U.N., which Bolton called irrelevant. Ultimately, Congress blocked his confirmation and he had to step down from that role.

“Bolton is the hawk’s hawk,” wrote Cliff Kupchan, chairman of Eurasia Group. He noted that besides pushing for pre-emptive strikes on North Korea’s nuclear program, he has criticized the planned Trump-Kim Jong Un summit as useless.

“He’s a fierce opponent of the Iran nuclear deal. In 2015, before the deal, Bolton penned an op-ed titled ‘To Stop Iran’s Bomb, Bomb Iran.’ Bolton’s appointment will likely make US policy on both hot-button issues more hardline,” added Kupchan. “At least on the margins, the chance of a strike on North Korea goes up, of successful US-North Korea diplomacy goes down, and the Iran deal is in even more trouble.”

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221 Comments on "John Bolton likely to turn up heat on Iran and boost oil prices"

  1. DerHundistlos on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 1:48 am 

    Greg, thank goodness there’s another here that has no inhibitions telling Davy he’s full of shit and a disgusting hypocrite.

    Davy is constantly whining about being “pricked” on when it is he who initiates the attacks by posting so many lies.

  2. DerHundistlos on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 1:54 am 

    “Perhaps it looks like the Right dominates because they write longer, more coherent stories.lol”

    Like yourself, Clogged? While you may be a Dutch citizen now, I don’t believe for one second you did not spend the majority of your life as an American troll.

  3. DerHundistlos on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 2:02 am 

    “Sure, Davy, even when I provide you with references, as with your last BS lie that Kunstler’s predictions have been “spot-on”. Liar, shall we go through this exercise again to prove my point?”

    “References dumbass then we will discuss the context and the meaning you rabid dog.”

    You know exactly what I’m talking about, Liar. I proved to you time and again the total flop of Kunt’s prognostications. Then, you would find a convenient excuse as a means to try and save face. I went through each one of his 2014 projections- wrong. Then you complained, find something more current. So I shoed his 2016 forecasts. Again each and every one was wrong.

    The problem is you are the most flagrant liar I have ever encountered. How does one argue with a liar. Impossible.

    By the way, I’m still waiting for your military DD-214, Liar Why? You lied and never served one second in the military. Now onder you admire Trump so much. Disgusting liar and hypocrite.

  4. MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 2:15 am 

    Greg

    I know you are so above everyone else that you can’t be included in the rest of industrial civilization..This is why I said you are a cult member..All preppers are..That is why people laugh at them and think they are nuts. You are as delusional as they come and you out numbered by a thousand to one…The odds are not in your favor..Even if we ignore all the nukes plants melting down..If I was you I would set a few bullets aside for you and that fat tub of lard you are married too. And when after the economic collapse happens just take the easy way out!And then you will join your dear leader in Heaven where you can thank, and praise, and worship him for the rest of your existence!

  5. DerHundistlos on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 2:18 am 

    Here you go again, Liar:

    “Der hund what predictions failed miserably and which ones of yours are right? Got references and backups?”

    Here you go liar, Davy (AND THIS IS JUST 2016):

    I predict that in 2016 Ukraine will beg Russia to take it back into the Russian sovereign fold, to become once again a province of greater Russia. WRONG

    The Kurds on Turkey’s southern border to start a civil war by asserting their own nationhood. WRONG

    As 2016 goes on, look for good ole Sarkozy (Nicolas Sarkozy) to flank them both. Sarko is the Devil they know and they will want him back. WRONG

    The same election time-line goes for Germany. Voters there will increasingly revolt against what Mutti Merkel represents. WRONG

    The debt implosion of 2016 and rescheduled Great Depression 2.0 will thrust UK Independence Party’s Nigel Farage into the spotlight to salvage what remains of Old Blighty. WRONG

    My one wild-hair prediction about China for 2016: after Kim Jong-Un pulls some bonehead move against his neighbor to the south, China invades North Korea and installs a more rational management regime there. Kim Jong-Un ends up as a lounge singer in Macao. WRONG

    Shall I continue liar?

    Just for fun, here’s Kunt’s laughable 2013 predictions:

    “So, finally my picks for 2013:

    — Dow 4000 (What!? Did he say that!? Again!?). Even the algos will run squealing into the underbrush this time. WRONG

    — Gold $2500 by 12/31/2013 (and headed higher) after a Q-1 deleveraging swoon. Silver $125. Uncertainty trumps greed and fear. WRONG

    — Two-way Stagflation — massive asset deflation combined with high energy and food costs. Americans go broke fast, go hungry, go nowhere. WRONG

    — California, Illinois, and New Jersey ask broke the federal government for bailouts. The federal government pretends to bail them out. Austerity has a field day. WRONG

    — Despite willingness to do so, the Federal Reserve can no longer “print” money to overcome the deflationary contraction of wealth. They are finally “out of ammunition.” They will try nonetheless. Consequently some nations will stop accepting dollars for trade, possibly the Middle Eastern oil exporters. That would be very bad news. WRONG

    — Shale oil and gas production stop increasing, possibly turns around to decline. The event hugely demoralizes “energy independence” cornucopians. WRONG

    — Gasoline shortages return to the USA on a scale last seen in the 1970s. Cause: broken oil market allocation system. Some regions suffer more than others. WRONG

    — Drought continues in the US heartland. The grain belt withers in 2013. Dixieland cooks like a chicken-fried steak. Food costs go crazy. The American public finally begins to freak out when confronted with $9 boxes of Cheerios. WRONG

    — A major earthquake hits the West Coast. WRONG”

    JIM KUNSTLER: WORLD’S SHITTIEST FORECASTER

    Jim got off to a rip-roaring start in April 1999 by predicting that “Y2K is real. Y2K is going to rock our world… I believe [Y2K] will deeply affect the economies-of-scale of virtually all activities in the United States, essentially requiring us to downsize and localize everything from government to retail merchandising to farming… I doubt that the WalMarts and K-Marts of the land will survive Y2K.”

    I know what you’re thinking: “Man, I wish I had a whole roll of that stuff to wipe with.” And I couldn’t agree more. Kunstler is a real talent, a genuine one-in-a-million find, and he hasn’t let us down in the years since Y2K. He’s made shitty prediction after shitty prediction — to the point that the only proper response is probably a standing ovation with armpit farts for his uncanny ability to not see the future.

    “I’m inclined to predict a gruesome journey down for the Dow Jones into the 4000 range by the end of the year. ” — June 27, 2005

    “I’d called for a Dow-4000 late in 2005. I think that was just an error in timing, and still call for the Dow to sink into that range, or worse, in 2006.” — Jan. 2, 2006

    “Let’s get this out of the way up front: the worst call I made last year was for the Dow to crumble down to 4000 when, in fact, it melted up to a new all-time record high of about 12,500.” –Jan 1, 2007

    “The commercial airline industry is already whirling around the drain. 2006 will send it decisively down that drain. Since we cannot do without aviation in a nation as large as the US (with train service on the level with Bolivia) then the government may have to take over the crippled air routes.” — Jan. 2, 2006

    “But I must say, at the risk once again of sounding extreme, that the structural and systemic sickness in the finance realm is now so severe that it is hard to imagine we will get through the month of December without some major trauma in the markets. In fact, I’d go so far as to predict a thousand-point drop (or more) in the Dow just in this week after Thanksgiving.” Nov. 26, 2007

    “For those of you concerned about my sense of pride — yes, I sure got that eggy feeling all over my face last week after calling for a thousand-point Dow plunge, only to watch it put on the greatest two-day melt-up in five years.” Dec. 3, 2007

    “So I would conclude by again predicting a substantial drop in the Dow and other equity markets.” January 1, 2007

    “I can’t imagine that quite a few major banks will not collapse in the first half of 2008. It is hard to escape the conclusion that many hedge funds will also blow up, given the unsoundness of their counter-parties’ positions, not to mention the frailty of the bond reinsurers.” Dec. 31, 2007

    “Okay, my final comment. After being chastised endlessly about mis-calling the DOW in 2006 (I said 4000), I have learned my lesson about making numerical predictions for the stock markets. So let’s just say there is no fucking way that the DOW, the NASDAQ, and the S & P will not end the year 2008 absolutely on their asses.”

    http://kunstler.com/forecast/forecast_2013_contraction_contagion_and_contradiction/

  6. MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 2:19 am 

    DerHundistlos

    Kunts predictions have been proven correct and only does the case get stronger over time. We have the great recession and the last ten years the US econoy has grown at half the rate it did the prior fifty years before the recession..And of course we have the retail Apocalypse now, mass shootings every nine out of ten days, opoiod crisis, suicide crisis, homelessness increasing every year…This is all the long emergency. The only thing i disagree with Kunt on is that i dont think things can keep going on this way for much more than a decade tops before a total and hard collapse hits.

  7. MASTERMIND on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 2:25 am 

    DerHundistlos

    Here are sixty charts sixty charts of evidence. That kunt has been proven right on his long emergency thesis.
    https://imgur.com/a/OB1w6

    Now go kick rocks! And if you really believed everything was swell and kunt was wrong you would be arguing on a doomer blog.

  8. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 4:30 am 

    “Again, like I’ve said before; Those who are ignorant of history, are destined to repeat it.”

    Those who mistake history for current events may repeat it by self-fulfilling that which is unrelated.

  9. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 4:36 am 

    “Here you go liar, Davy (AND THIS IS JUST 2016):”

    Geeze, der hund you are out there. He made year end predictions. Read his 2005 book the “Long Emergency” and get back to me. It foretold the 08 crisis. While it appears peak oil issues have gone away they are still there. All those issues of a society with an arrangement with no future are still present. We just delayed them. He is spot on exposing the Democratic filth. So using your stupid year end predictions is childish. You are so hurt by Kunstler and me because you can’t believe your team is horrible. BTW, the conservative republicans are horrible too. Get over it and try to fix things quit trying to defend something that can’t be defended.

  10. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 4:41 am 

    “I find it quite fascinating how yourself, Davy, and Boat, constantly use the we, us, our,”
    That is because you do not care about your people. This is why you prick others. You are an empty shell of a guy. You have no connectivity to others. No wonder you moved up in the woods away from everybody. I care for my country and people and I am proud of saying I am here to fight for them. I am also here to criticize them. This is what makes a country and why Canada is not a country. It is not a real country because of people like you greggie.

  11. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 4:48 am 

    “Still awaiting your considerate, coherent, and intelligent rebuttal to Cloggie’s argument Davy. This is, after all, a ‘discussion’ forum.”
    Greggie, think of others and quit being the board policeman. Give others space to talk and quit trying to pack the board with your comments.

    “If you are unable to control your temper, then perhaps you would be better served by spending your time on an anger management forum.”
    Look in the mirror greggie and talk to the therapist. I will continue to hound and disrespect you until you realize what you are doing and that is stalking and pricking me because I upset you. I don’t directly call you out until you call me out. I am not saying this because I am afraid of you are hurt by you. It is quite the contrary. I love kicking your ass. What I am thinking about is the others who you could give a shit about. Give the board policing a rest and let others talk.

  12. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 4:50 am 

    “Greg, thank goodness there’s another here that has no inhibitions telling Davy he’s full of shit and a disgusting hypocrite.”

    Der hund, move up to Canada. There are many others there who hate America. You are perfect match. You and greggie are so much alike, delusional and hypocritical.

  13. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 10:49 am 

    “Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

    -Sir Winston Churchill

    “Those who mistake history for current events may repeat it by self-fulfilling that which is unrelated.”

    -Davy

    Those who mistake history for current events Davy, are obviously a few bricks short of a load. The past, and the present, are not the same thing.

    More delusions.

  14. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 10:54 am 

    “This is what makes a country and why Canada is not a country.”

    Now Davy believes that Canada is not a country? You really are one very confused dude.

    Maybe this will jog a few of those dormant brain cells:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

    Nah, probably not.

  15. fmr-paultard on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 10:58 am 

    greg it’s very difficult to learn from history because eurotard keeps revising it. then complaining about victors writing history.
    but you’re also into nazism so i guess you didn’t learn about their defeat. you think they have another chance?

    how are we going to learn if ISIS keeps coming back with idea of caliphate and nazi’s keeps hope alive for fuhrer #2?

    I think both those ideas are dead and done. i’m guilty of not learning from history but perhaps it should be that simple, that what’s dead can’t be revived?

  16. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 10:58 am 

    “I care for my country and people and I am proud of saying I am here to fight for them.”

    Unless of course, they have different opinions than yourself. Isn’t democracy a wonderful thing.

    “Der hund, move up to Canada.”

    Hardly what I would consider to be fighting for “your” people. Derhund is correct, you are full of shit Davy, and a disgusting hypocrite.

  17. fmr-paultard on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:06 am 

    der come to canada to hang out with rich chinese people. i’m a libtard but i stay behind

  18. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:12 am 

    “Those who mistake history for current events Davy, are obviously a few bricks short of a load. The past, and the present, are not the same thing.”

    Then you and the neder are a few bricks short because this is part of your conspiracy obsession. You are addicted to make believe. The past and present are not the same thing so why do you two play your inference games?

  19. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:15 am 

    “Now Davy believes that Canada is not a country? You really are one very confused dude.”

    You are not a country with a soul greggie because of people like you. The Canadian identity is based on what is anti-American. You are a special case in the way you wallow in tax farm guilt. You hate yourself and your country and take that hate out on Americans.

  20. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:15 am 

    tard,

    My apologies dude, but I’m only fluent in one language, English, and I don’t own a super secret retard decoder ring.

  21. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:17 am 

    “You are not a country”

    That’s a good start Davy. You would be correct. I am not a country, and neither are you.

  22. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:19 am 

    “Unless of course, they have different opinions than yourself. Isn’t democracy a wonderful thing.”

    You said that not me. I have no problem with debates you are the one that is the stalker who pricks Americans. That I don’t like and I throw it back in your face any chance I get.

    “Hardly what I would consider to be fighting for “your” people. Derhund is correct, you are full of shit Davy, and a disgusting hypocrite.”

    What does the dumbass Canadian say…childish rhetoric and name calling. LOL, who is the hypocrite?

  23. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:19 am 

    “The past and present are not the same thing so why do you two play your inference games?”

    Would you mind clarifying the above Davy, because you aren’t making any sense buddy.

  24. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:20 am 

    “That’s a good start Davy. You would be correct. I am not a country, and neither are you.”

    LOL, are you getting mad greggie?

  25. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:21 am 

    not your buddy and you know what I am saying.

  26. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:23 am 

    “I have no problem with debates you are the one that is the stalker who pricks Americans.”

    Then why do you refuse to formulate a considerate, coherent, and intelligent rebuttal to Cloggie’s argument? And one more time Davy, I could give a rat’s ass which tax farm you were born into. It makes no difference to me.

  27. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:25 am 

    “not your buddy and you know what I am saying.”

    If I had any idea as to what you were saying, I wouldn’t have asked you for clarification.

  28. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:26 am 

    “LOL, are you getting mad greggie?”

    Spitting bullets. 🙂

  29. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:29 am 

    “Then why do you refuse to formulate a considerate, coherent, and intelligent rebuttal to Cloggie’s argument?”
    Greggie, his arguments are not considerate, coherent, and intelligent. Nor are your attempts to enable and support his history revisions and conspiracy formulations considerate, coherent, and intelligent. The both of you are soiling the truth for your own personal emotional agendas.

    “And one more time Davy, I could give a rat’s ass which tax farm you were born into.”
    Stop lying greggie, you stalk and prick Americans exclusively because you are an ultra-nationalistic anti-American Canadian.

  30. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:30 am 

    “If I had any idea as to what you were saying, I wouldn’t have asked you for clarification.”

    you know what I am saying but what you are doing is pricking.

  31. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:33 am 

    Let’s try this again, shall we?

    If I had any idea as to what you were saying, I wouldn’t have asked you for clarification.

  32. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:34 am 

    “Stop lying greggie, you stalk and prick Americans exclusively because you are an ultra-nationalistic anti-American Canadian.”

    I do not believe in top down centralized control. It always leads to corruption. No matter what system was in place.

  33. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:37 am 

    Let’s try this again, shall we?

    greggie your pricking again..it is serial and obsessive.

  34. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:38 am 

    “I do not believe in top down centralized control. It always leads to corruption. No matter what system was in place.”

    Let’s try this again, shall we?

    greggie your pricking again..it is serial and obsessive.

  35. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:39 am 

    “The both of you are soiling the truth for your own personal emotional agendas.”

    I used to believe in the official narrative Davy, until I dated a gal who was a professor of history from UBC. I now understand things to be slightly different than what we were told to believe in school. Sorry buddy, but once you start to search for the truth, there is no turning back.

  36. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:40 am 

    “greggie your pricking again..it is serial and obsessive.”

    If I had any idea as to what you were saying, I wouldn’t have asked you for clarification.

  37. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:45 am 

    I can just imagine the nutcase she must have been. I bet you talked history after sex. Professors of history are a dime a dozen, greggie. There are multiple versions of the truth being peddled out there by so called professors. It takes science and proper understanding of which you do not have because you have a personal emotional agenda getting in the way. There is no way for someone like you to know the truth. Saying Hitler was a victim because he didn’t want war is a fine example of this.

  38. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:54 am 

    “It takes science and proper understanding of which you do not have because you have a personal emotional agenda getting in the way.”

    I don’t care Davy, I’m not worried about my precious flag getting all dirty. I’m only interested in the truth. Not government propaganda.

    “Saying Hitler was a victim because he didn’t want war is a fine example of this.”

    Somewhere between 50 and 80 million people were killed during WW2. I’m sure that everyone believed very strongly about what they were killing each other over.

  39. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 11:55 am 

    “I can just imagine the nutcase she must have been.”

    Last time I looked her up, she was at Oxford.

  40. Cloggie on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 12:01 pm 

    Saying Hitler was a victim because he didn’t want war is a fine example of this.

    I said that, with reasons.

    Now make your case that Hitler and Germany got what they deserved:

    – Every city ruined
    – hundreds of thousands murdered in a merciless bombing campaign
    – hundreds of thousands of German women raped by GIs

    Why?

    Because by 1933 ZOG-USA felt strong enough to start a world empire (NWO), that’s why.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/time-life-the-american-century/

    And to create the excuse for their actions they set up a fake war tribunal and invented the holocaust.

    That’s exactly what happened and lying empire Dave knows that to be the truth, because if he had any arguments against that story he would have long brought them forward by know. But he hasn’t. And in the mean time he provides me with the opportunity to have a little fun with my private play thingy. I have him in a virtual headlock and with every post I stomp him in his ugly lying face and there is absolutely nothing he can do about it. And I am enjoying every minute of it. And with every post he gets a little smaller… until he eventually collapses.

    Now here is finally a collapse one can believe in.lol

    And absolutely nobody comes to the defense of poor lying empire Dave, not even his master millikike, who is smart enough to not even bring up the subject, very much unlike lying empire Dave..

  41. Cloggie on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 12:18 pm 

    Build the wall for what? Illegal immigration has dropped by 80 percent since 2000…Trump voters are just ignorant and being mislead by billionaire owned fake news.

    Where’s the Immigration Crisis? U.S. Border Patrol Reports Illegal Border Crossings At Record Low
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2017/12/05/wheres-the-immigration-crisis-u-s-border-patrol-reports-illegal-border-crossings-at-record-low/#21deecfc4b73

    What Mass Immigration Wave?

    https://mobile.twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/967415441839796225

    The new, 5-year American Community Survey estimates data reveals though, that not only newborns are now predominantly minority – Whites are a minority among all children and teenagers under 20

    European America is over, which your tribe that organized its demise, loves:

    http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/immigration.pdf

    But now that it has happened I can live with it to, because we have now reached the point that European-American despair can be exploited and prepare America for the break-up, which would deprive your tribe of the last tool is has to attempt to take over the world.

  42. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 12:32 pm 

    “I don’t care Davy, I’m not worried about my precious flag getting all dirty. I’m only interested in the truth. Not government propaganda.”
    You are interested in your personal anti-American agenda and that is it. You could give a shit about the truth.

    “Somewhere between 50 and 80 million people were killed during WW2. I’m sure that everyone believed very strongly about what they were killing each other over.”
    Is Hitler a victim or not greggie? Spit it out.

  43. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 12:34 pm 

    “Last time I looked her up, she was at Oxford.”
    So what greggie. Does your wife know you are cheating on her?

  44. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 12:36 pm 

    “Now make your case that Hitler and Germany got what they deserved”

    The German people were victims for the most part but not your Nazis. Your Nazi’s killed wantonly, nedernazi. They initiated the civilian carnage then they were given a taste of their own medicine.

  45. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 12:40 pm 

    Most people don’t care to talk about your WWII spam. greggie does because it gives him an opportunity to prick. You are a serial propagandist nedernazi and a blemish to this forum. You are off topic and disrespectful. You lie, distort, and embellish.

  46. Davy on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 12:43 pm 

    “European America is over, which your tribe that organized its demise, loves:”
    Looks like European Europe is over too.

    “Will Germany Still Belong To Germans In The Near-Future?”
    https://tinyurl.com/ybpfj5ft

    “The speed with which the German population is shrinking seems to be even too much for the statisticians of Destatis, the official German bureau of statistics, who posit that by 2060, with a zero level of net immigration, the German population will have declined to 60,2 million. However, our research team has found out that this number is far too optimistic: in 40 years Germany will have a population of 52,6 million people, a considerable 34% drop from the current 81 million inhabitants, and by the end of the century the native German population, the indigenous people without a migration background, will have shrunk even further and be approaching 21,6 million. The explanation that Destatis has mailed us is tantamount to admitting that their projections are unrealistic. If the German elites succeed in maintaining their population at 80 million, in 2060 the majority of naturalized Germans will have no historical relation to the nation’s ancestors who were once proud subjects of the Holy Roman Empire. Moreover, they will stand in the same relation to Albert Schweitzer, Johann Sebastian Bach, Karl Benz and Friedrich Nietzsche as Recep Tayyip Erdoğan stands to the Byzantine emperors. The excessive numbers of migrants will have altered the German nation forever.”

  47. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 1:49 pm 

    “So what greggie. Does your wife know you are cheating on her?”

    My wife knows my old girlfriend. They went to school together Davy.

  48. GregT on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 1:57 pm 

    “The German people were victims for the most part. They initiated the civilian carnage then they were given a taste of their own medicine.”

    So who was it that was given the medicine when Dresden was firebombed Davy? Would that have been the most part German people victims? Or the Nazis?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

    “Critics of the bombing have claimed that Dresden was a cultural landmark of little or no strategic significance, and that the attacks were indiscriminate area bombing and not proportionate to the military gains.”

  49. Cloggie on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 2:12 pm 

    “The German people were victims for the most part but not your Nazis. Your Nazi’s killed wantonly, nedernazi. They initiated the civilian carnage then they were given a taste of their own medicine.”

    What civil carnage are you talking about, Meathead?

    Between 1933 and 1939, both Germany and Britain killed ca. 600 people, mostly because of capital punishment. The US probably killed more, because bigger country (that still had death penalty btw)

    So be specific… what civil carnage are you talking about?

    As an aside to the unsuspecting reader: our Prozark hasn’t a clue what he is talking about, he is just making it up as he goes, desperate as he is to find a moral justification for the unparalled act of agression of the US vs Germany.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/bullitt-reveals-in-april-1939-that-war-has-been-decided-upon/

    Well, Davy, what carnage are you talking about?

    tic-toc-tic-toc.

  50. Cloggie on Tue, 27th Mar 2018 2:26 pm 

    “Looks like European Europe is over too.”

    2060? That’s after WW3 and the demise of the US empire. We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.

    But hey, this is not the first time that Meathead links to the Dutch right-wing site gefira.org!

    https://openmigration.org/en/analyses/getting-to-know-gefira-and-the-identitarians-of-defend-europe-our-interviews/

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