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At this time we do not know the outcome of the meeting in Moscow between Merkel, Hollande, and Putin.

The meeting with Putin was initiated by Merkel and Hollande, because they are disturbed by the aggressive position that Washington has taken toward Russia and are fearful that Washington is pushing Europe into a conflict that Europe does not want.  However, Merkel and Hollande cannot resolve the NATO/EU/Ukraine situation unless Merkel and Hollande are willing to break with Washington’s foreign policy and assert the right as sovereign states to conduct their own foreign policy.

Unless Washington’s war-lust has finally driven Europeans to take control over their own fate, the most likely outcome of the Putin-Merkel-Hollande meeting will be more meetings that go nowhere. If Merkel and Hollande are not negotiating from a position of independence, one likely outcome after more meetings will be that Merkel and Hollande will say, in order to appease Washington, that they tried to reason with Putin but that Putin was unreasonable.

Based on Lavrov’s meeting in Munich with the Europeans, the hope for any sign of intelligence and independence in Europe seems misplaced.  Russian diplomacy relied on European independence, but as Putin has acknowledged Europe has shown no independence from Washington.  Putin has said that negotiating with vassals is pointless. Yet, Putin continues to negotiate with vassals.

Perhaps Putin’s patience is finally paying off. There are reports that Germany and France oppose Washington’s plan to send weapons to Ukraine. French president Hollande now supports autonomy for the break-away republics in Ukraine. His predecessor, Sarkozy, said that Crimea chose Russia and we cannot blame them, and that the interests of Americans and Europeans diverge when it comes to Russia. Germany’s foreign minister says that Washington’s plan to arm Ukraine is risky and reckless. And on top of it all, Cyprus has offered Russia an air base.

We will see how Washington responds to the French statements that European interests with regard to Russia diverge from Washington’s. Washington does not recognize any valid interest except its own.  Therefore, it has been fruitless for Russia to negotiate with Washington and Washington’s EU vassals.  To come to an agreement with Washington has required Russia’s surrender to Washington’s terms.  Russia must hand over Crimea and Russia’s warm water port, and Moscow must stand aside while the Russian people in eastern and southern Ukraine, the “break-away” provinces, are slaughtered.  Russia must support the hostile regime in Kiev with loans, grants, and low gas prices.

That is the only deal Russia has been able to get from Washington, because the EU has supported Washington’s line. With French presidents reportedly now saying, “We are part of a common civilization with Russia,” Europe is on the road to independence.

Can Europe stay on this road, or can Washington bring Germany and France back in line? A false flag attack could do it. Washington is a control freak, and the neoconservative ideology of US hegemony has made Washington even more of a control freak. Europe with an independent foreign policy means a great loss of control by Washington. If Washington retains or regains control, I see two clear options for Russia.

One is to disengage totally from the West.  The West is a morally depraved  and economically bankrupt entity.  There is no reason for a decent country like Russia to wish to be integrated with the evil that is the West.  Russia has the option of abandoning the dollar payments system and all financial relationships with the West.

By trying to be part of the West, Russia made a strategic error that endangered the independence of Russia.  Russia found herself dependent on Western financial systems that gave Washington power over Moscow and allowed Washington to place economic sanctions on Russia.

It was Russia’s desire to be part of the West that made possible Washington’s sanctions and Washington’s propaganda against Russia.

It was Russia’s desire to be accepted by the West that produced the weak Russian response to Washington’s audacious coup in Kiev.  Washington is using Ukraine against Russia. After seizing control in Kiev, it is unlikely that Washington will accept a peaceful solution in which the “break-away” provinces are permitted to become autonomous republics of Ukraine.

Is negotiation with Washington possible when Washington only wants conflict?

Russia’s other clear option is to destroy NATO by ceasing to sell energy resources to NATO members. The countries would choose energy over NATO membership.

Why should Russia empower its obvious enemies by meeting their energy needs?  Russia could also encourage Greece, Italy, Spain, and Portugal to default on their loans and rely on Russia, China, and the BRICS Bank for financing. China holds a massive amount of dollars. Why not use them to break up Washington’s European empire?

Russia could also default on its loans to the West. Why should Russia pay an enemy that is trying to destroy her?

If Europe cannot gain its independence, at some point Russia will either have to surrender to Washington or demonstrate decisive action that causes the Washington’s European vassal states to understand the cost of vassalage to Washington and decide to abandon Washington in the interest of their own survival.

Alternatively, Russia can forget about the West and integrate with China and the East. Considering Washington’s hegemonic posture, there is no counterparty for Russia’s diplomacy.

Predictions are difficult, because policies can have unintended consequences and produce black swan events. For example,  the Islamic State is the unintended consequence of Washington’s wars in the Muslim world. The Islamic State was created out of the Islamist forces that Washington assembled against Gaddafi in Libya. These forces were then sent to overthrow Assad in Syria.  As Muslims flocked to ISIS’s banner and its military prowess grew, ISIS realized that it was a new and independent force consisting of radicalized Muslims.

Radicalized Muslims are tired of Western domination and control of Muslim lands.  Out of ISIS’s self-awareness, a new state has been created, redrawing the Middle Eastern boundaries created by the British and French.

It is curious that Iran and Russia regard the Islamic State as a more dangerous enemy than Washington and are supporting Washington’s moves against the Islamic State. As the Islamic State is capable of disrupting Washington’s policy in the Middle East, Iran and Russia have an incentive to finance and arm the Islamic State. It is in Washington, not in the Islamic State, where Sauron resides and is gathering up the rings in order to control them all.

In their attempts to negotiate with Europeans, Putin and Lavrov should notice the total unwillingness of the EU to negotiate with its own members. Right in front of our eyes we see Merkel and Hollande driving their fellow Greek EU compatriots into the ground.

The EU has told the new Greek government that the EU doesn’t care a whit about Greece and its people. The Europeans only care that they don’t get stuck with the cost of the bad loans the German and Dutch banks made to Greek governments in the past.

As I described in my book, The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism, one purpose of the “sovereign debt crisis” is to establish the principle that private lenders are not responsible for their bad judgment. Instead, the peoples of the country who were not parties to the loans are responsible. The EU is using the crisis not only to protect powerful private interests, but also to establish that over-indebted countries lose control of their fiscal affairs to the EU. In other words, the EU is using the crisis to centralize authority in order to destroy country sovereignty.

As Washington and the EU do not respect the sovereignty of Greece, one of its own, why does the Russian government think that Washington and the EU respect the sovereignty of Russia or Ukraine? Or of India, Brazil and other South American countries, or China. Currently Washington is trying to overthrow the governments of Cuba, Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Argentina.

Washington respects no one. Thus, talking to Washington is a waste of time. Is this a game Russia wants to play?

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. His latest book, The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West is now available.

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65 Comments on "Is Peace or War at Hand?"

  1. Rodster on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 6:29 am 

    Hopefully saner heads will prevail in DC but don’t count on it. The Neocons have subscribed themsleves to the Wolfowitz Doctrine, believing they can actually win a nuclear confrontation.

    The problem is, this is all about world domination and saving the Petrodollar. It’s as simple as that. The USSA has become the evil empire in it’s quest for world domination. It happens to all Empires. In it’s declining state, they persue violence if coercion doesn’t work.

    It happen to Saddam Huessain, Muammar Gaddafi. This is what the US has become. As GWB said, “either you are with is or against us”. So we are down to thuggery and violence.

    The USSA purposely went into Ukraine to 1) destabilize, 2) overthrow 3) create a civil war and 4) bring NATO closer to Russia’s doorstep. Mission accomplished. The question is WHY?

    Simply because Russia along with China have become a threat to the USSA’s path to world domination.

    So it’s all up to the crazies running Washington if they want peace or war. When you choose to create problems for others then blame them along with making up lies as the USSA has done, it shows how reckless and dangerous the USSA has become.

  2. Davy on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 6:54 am 

    Agenda’s on all sides distort the truth. The blame game is not the truth. There is no yin without yang as a basic of life. Why would geopolitics be any different? Infowars is an agendist site just as fox news is. If following this article we had a Fox news article then had a moderator whose sole mandate is to sift through the facts both sides bring to the table and determine a fair and balanced view point then these nitwits (Fox news and Infowars) have utility. Taken alone they are tabloid and contribute to further instability.

    We know not what is going on behind the scenes fully. This is a game of brinkmanship with nuances with all the aspects of social and economic game theory. Russia is a criminal mafia state run by a dictatorship of the oligarchs. The US is a cable of public private thieves and criminals. Europe is a weak amalgamation of nationalities that have little ability at running a federation of conflicting national policies economic and social. These European states are a mixture of the same Russian and American devils. Europe has always been the weak link of geopolitics because of its importance and its weaknesses.

    The US does not belong in this mess as a spoiler of anything Russian. Russia is in the wrong by supporting a rebel movement and ripping apart a country because of self-interest. The Russians have done everything possible to disrupt US leadership rightly or wrongly. Why would the US not want to play the game? Russia and Ukraine have the kind of relationship that is optimum for civil war. They have some bad blood from history. They have a legacy of communist mapping distortions. Russia will likely win ultimately because Ukraine is their neighbor and Europe needs Russian energy. This will come at a very high cost for Russia and Europe mainly for the people. Oil is becoming uneconomic signaling demand and supply destruction. Russia’s economy is no longer in the position to operate with low oil prices. Ukraine is a failed state that will be broken apart eventually. It cannot survive in the situation it is in.

    This big global power play is so far above the petty agendist policies of Infowars and Fox news. This is the kind of article the moron anti American crowd here eat up. We know all too well the idiocy of the Fox news crowd. I include them both together here because they are two sides to a coin. I can’t wait to hear all the anti-American experts spout the party line. The reality of the situation is a geopolitical crisis in the heart of a critical node of BAU that is TBTF. All parties are playing a high stake game of poker. The global population are the victims and can only lose. I am the first to agree the US has no right nor reason to be a spoiler in this crisis.

    This crisis is all about a bumpy plateau giving way to a bumpy descent with the corresponding economic and social tensions. If all is well and everyone were happy why would there be this conflict? Conflicts are bad for business. This is an example of global descent. The product of which will be demand and supply destruction of a BAU ready to bifurcate from a global world towards a more local world. Time frame is unknown but the trajectory is certain.

    This and many other examples of instability are a canary in the coal mine of descent. Nothing about this conflict points to growth and prosperity. Nothing about this conflict points to a winner and losers. All lose in a interconnect world of delocalized locals depending on a codependent global in conflict.

    Play your blame game anti Americans. Feel good with the hate and resentment. They are some of the most enjoyable of human feelings. Lust for war and conflict and you will feel your pulse rise and heart patter just like the most hard core porn does you.

  3. Ted Wilson on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 6:57 am 

    Its the Saudis who are supporting Al Qaeda and IS to drive the USA out of the Middle East.

    They know very well that is US spends too much money on defence, its economy will go down.

    Without Saudi funding Islamic State would not have captured so much territory so fast.

    Instead of taking on them, US is trying to pull Russians and Chinese.

    US does not want Saudis to cut the oil supply. 1970s is still fresh in the minds of Americans.

    What if Russians cut their Oil Supply.

  4. Rodster on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 7:10 am 

    TW- “What if Russians cut their Oil Supply.”

    What if the Russians supplied military arms to the Mexican drug cartel?

  5. Makati1 on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 7:25 am 

    The UFSA is the terrorist empire, committing suicide as it blunders around the world like a drunk with a gun in a bar room. I would like to see the EU give the finger to DC and walk away. Putin has the EU by the throat and they are beginning to feel the pain. They remember WW2. The fault lines of the Empire are widening. I only hope they fracture before the missiles fly.

  6. Makati1 on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 7:28 am 

    Rodster, I suspect that the CIA is, and has been, doing that for a long time.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/deep-events-and-the-cia-s-global-drug-connection/10095

  7. Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 7:36 am 

    Obama’s new defense secretary supports arming Ukraine. US anti tank missiles will help the Ukrainians turn back the Russian tank attacks in eastern Ukraine

  8. Davy on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 7:46 am 

    Wow, instantly two hits of both of those agendas I spoke about. The hate filled Maksterr and Roadstar pouring out their bile of division and conflict. Then we have Planter towing the US MSM line with US doing the morally right thing arming the poor Ukrainians. I wish I would get points for predicting I would have had a profitable morning.

  9. paulo1 on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 7:49 am 

    I think it would be good for all sides if the EU breaks with Washington’s agenda. But let’s call it the elite agenda, for Washington no longer represents the US public and has not done so for decades. They pretend to, and whip up sentiment enough to get the poor or misguided to sign up for the ‘volunteer army’, but I cannot think of a time past ’63 when citizens were actually front and foremost on the agenda of Govt.

    If Hollande and Merkel break away, the McCains will shake their fists and complain, but they are so long into the sunset it isn’t even funny anymore. (Go home and die already, John McCain). If the US had to retrench and finally accept, “they really do not like or trust us anymore”, then that dialogue might well find its way into the 2016 debate and a coherent and planned path for future generations might actually emerge in a foreign policy based on demonstrable values and not on simple(ton) rhetoric.

    Right now vested interests simply lurch from one crisis event to another, and their hubris and contempt for other cultures and beliefs are causing a great deal of the World’s problems right now.

    Imagine what the reaction would be if China or Russia told the US how to behave in their sphere of influence, let alone give them ultimatums?! And threaten to provide weapons to those who oppose?

    The USA is a terrorist organization and long past its time for a comeuppance. If it doesn’t happen soon, they will drag us even further into wars and misery big the big red button always lurking in the wings. The current cloaking of righteous opposition to ISIS simply does not take into consideration that ISIS would probably not exist if Iraq had not been dismembered and left to regroup in disarray. You drone a wedding party and you make enemies forever. Go home, already. They’ll sell you the freaking oil. Look what you’ve wasted trying to control what you cannot and should not.!! The world is not your’s to control.

    As my four year old neighbour used to say in his sing-song kids voice, “you’re not the boss of the world”.

  10. Rodster on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 8:02 am 

    The USSA since the Ukrainian crisis been accusing Russia of invading and destabilizing Ukraine. WELL, where’s the PROOF? Where are the satellite pictures? All we have seen from the Evil Empire is propaganda along with a Presstitute media parroting what DC wants them to say.

    Give Europe some credit as they are beginning to see what the USSA is after. They want to destroy Russia from within but first they need to get a little closer by controlling Ukraine.

    As Arsenio Hall used to say: “things that make you go hmm”? Why is it that Hunter Biden is now a Board Member of the largest energy producer in Ukraine? Why is it the Presstitute media hasn’t called impropriety (VP’s Son) or wrongdoing on that?

  11. Go Speed Racer on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 8:04 am 

    Lets blow up the Ukraine. Time to prove to the world, what fat people on pot & welfare are capable of.

  12. Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 8:20 am 

    @Paulo

    You’re wasting your time bashing McCain. He doesn’t control US foreign policy. The decision to arm Ukraine and just what weapons to send is made by Obama together with his defense secretary and John Kerry et Alia

  13. GregT on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 9:52 am 

    “The problem is, this is all about world domination and saving the Petrodollar. It’s as simple as that.”

    It doesn’t get much simpler, does it. Putin gave a speech in which he didn’t dice words. The NWO will not succeed without international cooperation, and especially not without Russian involvement. He was crystal clear about Russia wanting peace above all else, but that the Russians were ready, willing, and able to defend themselves against the empire if forced to do so. The DC oligarchs have corrupted the UN and NATO, but in the end the Europeans will come to their senses. The emperor really is wearing no clothes. Let’s all hope that Hollande and Merkel are successful in diplomatic relations, because if they are not, the next world war will be fought in North America.

  14. Apneaman on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 10:27 am 

    Team America are bunch of insane spoiled brats that would rather see the world end than lose their power. Handily, they have a religious nut job ally next door to help bring on the end times.

    http://www.watershedsentinel.ca/content/harper-evangelical-capitalism

  15. Davy on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 10:42 am 

    Greg, Putin talks eloquent but he will do what ever he needs to do to achieve his goals. He has plenty of history of lies. There are no polotician who’s speeches that can be believed. If one believes poloticians today they are believing in a world of fantasy and make believe. Putin is the most eloquent and sophisticated of poloticians and also the richest. His riches are a testament to the success of his lies.

  16. Perk Earl on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 11:38 am 

    Unless there is a new cheap liquid energy source to replace oil as it depletes, and US politics moves farther to the right (already with an R House and Senate), and an R prez likely to be elected in 2016, things are bound to get very militaristic to attempt to substantiate US global military superiority and to distract the middle class form their continued descent and widening divide from the ballooning super wealthy.

  17. Davy on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 11:51 am 

    Perk, what about the influence of the tea baggers? They may prefer a more isolationist policy that requires less money, money we don’t have. In all probability we will be drawn into wars that are not of our choice but demand our attention. At some point the trend must be back within our boarders by necessity. The time frame as always is uncertain but surely will follow BAU’s decline.

  18. apneaman on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 12:01 pm 

    Right now, the average Russian citizen only cares that NATO continues to missile creep closer to his border. Which is what you would be doing too Davy if you lived there. How would you feel if Kentucky put missiles on the border pointing at you and yours? Would it make you want to have a discussion about Mitch McConnell’s bank account? You have to argue Putin’s bank account, because you would look even stupider if you tried to argue the bigger picture that a 144 million Russians do not have every right in the world to be seriously pissed and worried. For many people in N America we still have the luxury of wasting half the fucking day chatting on the web about others lives that we could never understand unless we lived it.

  19. GregT on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 12:05 pm 

    Davy,

    For me, this isn’t about choosing flags. I’m only interested in the truth, and what our media has been ramming down our throats, is as far removed from the truth as could be possible.

    It isn’t Putin that is the biggest threat to world peace and security. Black is white, up is down, and out is the new in. If we allow these evil people to continue to get away
    with their atrocities, they are going ignite WW3. Sorry, but I’m not a big fan of billions of people being vaporized. They have brutally murdered enough innocents already.

    Enough is enough.

  20. bobinget on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 12:17 pm 

    May I gently remind some of you here?

    It’s V. Putin’s Russians, Not Obama’s Americans being
    outrageously agressive, denying all responsibility, in Ukraine.

    It’s Obama, calling for diplomacy, not military intervention in former USSR Ukraine.

    Putin is recklessly playing with millions of lives with a goal of ultimately controling oil distribution and pricing.

    American’s in reactionary mode. The US, currently bombing; Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, S. Sudan, Afghanistan. Soon, we might add
    Libya, Nigeria and Iran.
    Our cup runneth over, don’t ya think?

    Pop quiz: What widely used mineral do above named countries have in common?

    Part 2:
    Does Ukraine currently export native petroleum?
    If your answer is no, why should we bother?

    “Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not a private set of facts”.

  21. GregT on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 12:46 pm 

    “It’s V. Putin’s Russians, Not Obama’s Americans being
    outrageously agressive, denying all responsibility, in Ukraine.”

    It was the US state department that instigated the Maidan uprisings which lead to the violent coup that overthrew the democratically elected government in Ukraine. Yanukovych could have been removed by popular vote in the next election. There was no need to ignite a civil war other than for geopolitical motives. Millions did not need to be forced from their homes. Crimea would have still been a part of Ukraine, and tens of thousands of innocent people would not have been slaughtered. With all of the high tech surveillance equipment available, why has their been no evidence presented of Russian military involvement? Why would Poroshenko wave Russian passports as proof of Russian military involvement, when everyone knows that active military personnel do not carry passports?

    “It’s Obama, calling for diplomacy, not military intervention in former USSR Ukraine.”

    The US has been calling for lethal military aid. Not diplomacy. Russia has been asking for diplomacy from the beginning. They have been asking for recognition of the rights of the people in Eastern Ukraine to self determination.

    “Putin is recklessly playing with millions of lives with a goal of ultimately controling oil distribution and pricing.”

    Putin has done nothing but react to a situation imposed on Russia by western powers. The latest rounds of oil pricing are out of Russia’s control, and are causing untold damage to the Russian economy.

    “The US, currently bombing; Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, S. Sudan, Afghanistan. Soon, we might add Libya, Nigeria and Iran.”

    Correct. Perhaps now would be a good time to stop overthrowing governments, and causing further instability. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

    “Does Ukraine currently export native petroleum? If your answer is no, why should we bother?”

    Ask Hunter Biden about Burisma Holdings.

  22. JuanP on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 1:08 pm 

    I want to know who were those snipers in Kiev shooting people on both sides of the conflict, killing dozens. I want to know who organized, financed, and executed the Odessa Massacre. I want to know who shot down flight MH17. I want to know why the Kiev Nazi Junta can commit genocide and ethnic cleansing with total impunity and the support and approval of the USA and Europe. I am afraid the truth will never be ascertained.

    I believe the East will last longer than the West, causing the West to lose more in the fight in the long run. We deserve it for having caused this mess. I believe the American-Russian war will destroy NATO, the EU, the Euro, the Dollar, and the USA. If we couldn’t beat illiterate cave dwellers running around in flip flops with AKs in almost 15 in Afghanistan or Iraq, I don’t think it is smart to pick a fight with Russia.

    I am adapting and preparing accordingly, planning to eventually go back to Uruguay. But for now, we like our life here, in Miami Beach, better.

  23. JuanP on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 1:09 pm 

    That was 15 years.

  24. paulo1 on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 1:19 pm 

    Plant

    I am aware McCain is not Govt. I am also aware he whips up pressure on the right for military intervention. He lost the election, plus he is an idiot from Arizona. He can go home and put his head on Sarah Palin’s lap.

  25. Davy on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 2:49 pm 

    Greg, this is not a flag waiving issue at all. I agree the U.S. is the biggest danger to the world currently through its Ukraine policy. Yet, Putin is a criminal, was a criminal, and will be a criminal. He is only honest when it suits his agenda. He selectively uses the truth and eloquence for his agenda. I will not buy into a good Putin. “Putin’s Way” is just the tip of the iceberg. No telling how many he has had killed. He proves his corruption through his ill gotten gains from raping and pillaging Russia. He is reported to be the richest politician in the world.

    Somehow here on this site if you have any balance in regards to the U.S. you are a flag waiver. If you criticize the other side you are a flag waiver. What if the table is turned the same logic can be used on the anti Americans. I am making a point that Putin’s Russia is a mafia of corrupt Oligarchs barely better than the U.S. den of thieves.

    No flag waiving on my part. No accusations of flag waiving. I am seeking fairness and balance. It is bad enough my country is criminal. When people here rightly accuse the U.S. but then glorify the opposition I can’t stand by and let that slide. If the truth is what is wanted it has to be approached in a fair and balanced way.

  26. Davy on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 2:55 pm 

    Paulo, I agree with you on McCain. He lost his mind over in Vietnam and now he is a loose cannon. God forbid he could have become president. Our political system is full of loons that is why the deadlock and paralysis is a positive. Less done less damage done.

  27. Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 3:40 pm 

    @bob. Your claim that Obama isn’t calling for military intervention is clearly false. So far Obama has intervened militarily in Somalia Yemen Nigeria Libya Iraq and Syria. And that’s after escalating the war in Afghanistan

    AND Just last month Obama nominated a new sec of defense who has spoken out again and again for the U.S. to arm the Ukraine so they can retake eastern Ukraine and the Crimea

  28. steve on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 4:02 pm 

    How do I find out who is the douche bag that wrote this report…? Can anyone with a computer be an expert automatically? Where is this information coming from? Was this person in the cabinet meetings? Does he she have some insider information and if so please show us so you at least have some credibility….I am starting to wonder where the truth lies these days….half the people on here believe everything they read as long as it fits their personal meme….

  29. synapsid on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 4:40 pm 

    “Is Peace or War at Hand?”

    The answer is “Yes.” Does this nitwit know what a comma is?

  30. GregT on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 4:45 pm 

    Steve,

    A list of Dr. Roberts achievements can be found here:

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/pages/about-paul-craig-roberts/

  31. yoananda on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 6:24 pm 

    “Obama’s new defense secretary supports arming Ukraine. US anti tank missiles will help the Ukrainians turn back the Russian tank attacks in eastern Ukraine”

    first sentence without “oil glut” from as far as we can tell.

    lol

  32. Makati1 on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 6:47 pm 

    I see the sides are drawn from the comments above. Just as expected.

    JuanP don’t wait too long or you may still be in the UFAS when the missiles fly or the borders close. I am debating on my two week trip to the States this spring. It may be my last one.

  33. Davy on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 7:08 pm 

    Mak, I like your new phrase for morons “UFAS”. It fits your nitwit mind and shows a nitwit creativity. I think most of my American brothers would appreciate it if you stay in your adopted jungle hang. We have no use for idiots that can’t get over a failed life. You can’t blame us for your stupidity. As much as you would like to find blame somewhere and anywhere why should we accept responsibility for your failures that belong at your own doorstep?

  34. GregT on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 7:48 pm 

    What the heck is UFAS?

  35. Davy on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 7:53 pm 

    Greg, most likely “The United Fascist American States”. I am just trying to think like Mak and that feels like his train of thought.

  36. redpill on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 8:02 pm 

    Has there been a peep out of the former Ukrainian President, Viktor F. Yanukovych?

    I see Interpol has placed a “red notice” on him.

    “An Interpol “red notice” — the most urgent issued by the international criminal police group — requires governments “to seek the location and arrest of wanted persons with a view to extradition or similar lawful action”.”

    http://news.yahoo.com/interpol-issues-global-wanted-notice-ex-ukraine-leader-152013197.html;_ylt=AwrSyCRTt9pU90UA3T7QtDMD

  37. GregT on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 9:13 pm 

    What ever happened to Yulia Tymoshenko? You know, the gas Princess? The richest woman in Ukraine, who made her fortune siphoning money from natural gas flowing into Ukraine from Russia. The woman who was imprisoned for 7 years and made to pay back 188 million dollars in restitution. Oh yah, I forgot. They let her out after they overthrew the democratically elected government.

    All of these oligarchs are corrupt, and all of them made their fortunes at the expense of the Ukrainian people, including Poroshenko, who’s ties have always been to Moscow.

    The West has merely picked whatever corrupt Oligarch that would do their bidding in their plans to open up Ukraine to Western interests. None of them have the best interests of the Ukrainian people in mind. The corruption runs rampant not only in Ukraine, but in the other countries that fomented the coup. All to make a few people filthy rich. There are even willing to stoop low enough to murder thousands of innocent people to make their fortunes. Despicable.

  38. Makati1 on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 9:26 pm 

    GregT… UFSA … not USFS. Just woke up and my first cup of coffee had not kicked in.

    UFSA = United Fascist States of America. The current government in all it’s corporate glory.

  39. Makati1 on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 9:29 pm 

    Ah, Davy, name calling is so childish. You cannoty rbut my UFSA observations with facts so …

    BTW: I don’t read your long rants. They sound too much like the Government BS.

  40. Speculawyer on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 11:24 pm 

    Wow, this board reads like Alex Jones rantings.

  41. Speculawyer on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 11:42 pm 

    “The West is a morally depraved and economically bankrupt entity. There is no reason for a decent country like Russia to wish to be integrated with the evil that is the West.”

    LOL! And Russia is such a paragon of virtue. It is nothing but a massive kleptocracy of oligarchs selling Russia’s natural resources. (Metals, diamonds, oil, gas, timber, etc.)

  42. Plantagenet on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 11:42 pm 

    Some of it sounds like Alex jones

    Some of it sounds like the kind of nutty Russian propaganda Putin has been ordering his state organs to produce

  43. Speculawyer on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 11:47 pm 

    Oh FFS. Infowars. Why would any bother reading let alone republishing such nonsense. The home of 9/11 truthers, endless ‘false flag’ conspiracy theories, aliens, and male enhancement products.

  44. GregT on Tue, 10th Feb 2015 11:51 pm 

    “Wow, this board reads like Alex Jones rantings.”

    Ignorance is bliss Spec, right up until the point that the two by four of reality smacks you squarely between the eyes.

    Then it isn’t much fun anymore. Especially if you didn’t bother to put a first aid kit together.

  45. GregT on Wed, 11th Feb 2015 12:05 am 

    “Why would any bother reading let alone republishing such nonsense.”

    Because some people are actually ‘smart’ Spec. Unfortunately, an extremely tiny minority.

    About the Author:

    Dr. Roberts has held academic appointments at Virginia Tech, Tulane University, University of New Mexico, Stanford University where he was Senior Research Fellow in the Hoover Institution, George Mason University where he had a joint appointment as professor of economics and professor of business administration, and Georgetown University where he held the William E. Simon Chair in Political Economy in the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

    He has contributed chapters to numerous books and has published many articles in journals of scholarship, including the Journal of Political Economy, Oxford Economic Papers, Journal of Law and Economics, Studies in Banking and Finance, Journal of Monetary Economics, Public Choice, Classica et Mediaevalia, Ethics, Slavic Review, Soviet Studies, Cardoza Law Review, Rivista de Political Economica, and Zeitschrift fur Wirtschafspolitik. He has entries in the McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Economics and the New Palgrave Dictionary of Money and Finance.

    He has contributed to Commentary, The Public Interest, The National Interest, Policy Review, National Review, The Independent Review, Harper’s, the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, Fortune, London Times, The Financial Times, TLS, The Spectator, The International Economy, Il Sole 24 Ore, Le Figaro, Liberation, and the Nihon Keizai Shimbun. He has testified before committees of Congress on 30 occasions.

    Dr. Roberts was associate editor and columnist for The Wall Street Journal and columnist for Business Week and the Scripps Howard News Service. He was a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate in Los Angeles. In 1992 he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism. In 1993 the Forbes Media Guide ranked him as one of the top seven journalists in the United States.

    President Reagan appointed Dr. Roberts Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and he was confirmed in office by the U.S. Senate. From 1975 to 1978, Dr. Roberts served on the congressional staff where he drafted the Kemp-Roth bill and played a leading role in developing bipartisan support for a supply-side economic policy. After leaving the Treasury, he served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense and the U.S. Department of Commerce.

    Dr. Roberts was awarded the Treasury Department’s Meritorious Service Award for “his outstanding contributions to the formulation of United States economic policy.”

    In 1987 the French government recognized him as “the artisan of a renewal in economic science and policy after half a century of state interventionism” and inducted him into the Legion of Honor.

    He is listed in Who’s Who in America and Who’s Who in the World.

    But of course people should listen to you Spec, cause you know better.

    Right.

  46. GregT on Wed, 11th Feb 2015 12:39 am 

    “The home of 9/11 truthers, endless ‘false flag’ conspiracy theories, aliens, and male enhancement products.”

    38% of Americans have some doubts about the official account of 9/11, 10% do not believe it at all, and 12% are unsure about it;
    46%, nearly one in two, are not aware that a third tower collapsed on 9/11. Of those who are aware of Building 7’s collapse, only 19% know the building’s name;
    After seeing video footage of Building 7′s collapse:
    46% are sure or suspect it was caused by controlled demolition, compared to 28% who are sure or suspect fires caused it, and 27% who don’t know;
    By a margin of nearly two to one, 41% support a new investigation of Building 7′s collapse, compared to 21% who oppose it.

    http://rethink911.org/news/new-poll-finds-most-americans-open-to-alternative-911-theories/

    False flag conspiracies are as old as man himself. Anyone that hasn’t been able to figure that out yet, probably shouldn’t be leaving the house unsupervised.

    The United States Government ran a program called project bluebook, originating from the tens of thousands of UFOs reports made by pilots during WW2.
    The government then went on to fund SETI, the search for extra-terrestrial intelligence
    Astronauts during the US space program routinely reported UFOs.

    Male enhancement products? Why not. Every male has one to enhance. A great way to make money.

  47. Northwest Resident on Wed, 11th Feb 2015 1:34 am 

    “The home of 9/11 truthers…”

    I never bought into the 9/11 “conspiracy theories” until I saw this video. Since watching that video, I’m open to the possibility that 9/11 was a planned event with intent to rally the world populations for support or at least neutral attitude for invasion of Afghanistan and then Iraq, and to justify positioning American troops and military hardware in and around the entire strategic oil producing areas. Yeah, I know, shocking and hard to believe, but there is a certain logic to it.

    Oil, Smoke and Mirrors

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVzJhlvtDms

  48. Makati1 on Wed, 11th Feb 2015 2:46 am 

    Truth can be a hard thing to grasp when your happy future depends on the lies being true. You cannot convince a man (woman) against their will, but that 2X4 of reality is already in motion.

  49. Davy on Wed, 11th Feb 2015 5:43 am 

    Mak, I care not one bit about what you do and I pray you will disappear into your jungle hang. You are a blemish to this site. There are those like Greg and Juan who have profound problems with many things American but they are fair and balanced. They show a sophistication and respect for others feeling here. They have friends here that they know have their opposing views. You have an agenda and preach propaganda using selective facts. You are mean and disrespectful to others here and your only friends are your fellow agendist. I read everyone here out of respect and community. I like to get the heartbeat of this site.

    I am guessing by reading all your posts you are in a deep subconscious act of resentment for a failed 60 years in the US that left you nothing but a social security check. I imagine your kids can’t stand you and are happy you are gone. I also imagine the locals in Makati get bored with your rants. I am not even sure you have a jungle hang as your so called refuge. Probably an internet fantasy that you can project digitally.

    Mak, you talk how I can’t rebut your UFSA. This is true I believe that is what the US has become. See Mak, I am not about agendas and propaganda I am about the truth because that is the only way I can successfully navigate this momentous period of change. I acknowledge the bad and the good of both sides. Unfortunately I have to stress many negatives I would normally not just to balance your bile. You are a flag waiver, you are an agendist. You have to rebut anything positive for the west and in particular the US. You glorify Asia, Russia, and the other Brics. That is not the truth and that is wrong. You are no better than those you hate.

    Your position makes you look ridiculous because it is old and stale propaganda that most here with a brain ignore. The anti-Americans eat it up and there are many here. The mature ones pick through your facts but reject your anti American agenda as childish. I use name calling Mak because you name call my country unjustly and unfairly so by extension you are calling me names. You are no longer an American. You are an anti-American. I can’t wait until you disappear into the jungle to your final resting place because at 70 you won’t make it a year.

  50. Davy on Wed, 11th Feb 2015 5:47 am 

    Greg with all due respect your Dr. Roberts is precisely the people that my agendist radar picks up. People like him with so many titles and achievements are often the worst offenders to the truth. They are often specialist that have no understanding in general of reality especially post BAU. These people are proud and vain. I do admit they have good facts to sift through and should be read. This is not the first time you posted his bio.

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