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Is a new US-led war looming with Iran?

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An image grab taken from a broadcast by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) on July 19, 2019 reportedly shows footage from an IRGC drone, showing a map of the route taken by the US amphibious assault ship USS Boxer; the US is about to send troops into Saudi Arabia
An image grab taken from a broadcast by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) on July 19, 2019 reportedly shows footage from an IRGC drone, showing a map of the route taken by the US amphibious assault ship USS Boxer; the US is about to send troops into Saudi Arabia An image grab taken from a broadcast by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) on July 19, 2019 reportedly shows footage from an IRGC drone, showing a map of the route taken by the US amphibious assault ship USS Boxer; the US is about to send troops into Saudi Arabia Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)/AFP

Dubai (AFP)

The United States is deploying troops in Saudi Arabia as tensions soar with its arch-rival Iran raising concerns over navigation in the Gulf’s strategic Strait of Hormuz.

It will be the first deployment of its kind since 2003, when American forces withdrew from the kingdom after a 12-year presence and two US-led wars with Iraq that culminated with the toppling of dictator Saddam Hussein.

Is a new war looming in the region?

– Is this preparation for war? –

Separate statements from Riyadh and the US Central Command, or CENTCOM, say the Saudi deployment aims to ensure stability in the turbulent Gulf.

“Based on mutual cooperation between Saudi Arabia and the United States of America, and their desire to enhance everything that could preserve the security of the region and its stability… King Salman gave his approval to host American forces,” the Saudi defence ministry said.

CENTCOM said the deployment “provides an additional deterrent, and ensures our ability to defend our forces and interests in the region from emergent, credible threats”.

But for Andreas Krieg, a professor at King’s College London, the troop movement “is part of posturing and the US trying to increase its military options in case of a strike on Iran”.

Washington and Tehran have been locked in a standoff since May 2018, when US President Donald Trump withdrew from the 2015 nuclear accord with Iran and began ratcheting up sanctions against the Islamic republic.

Trump and his oil-rich Saudi ally have also accused Iran of attacking tankers and drones in the Gulf since last May.

Iran denies the charges and has threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz — a chokepoint for around a third of the world’s sea-borne oil — if attacked.

Riyadh and Washington have not revealed the number of troops that will be deployed in the kingdom, which lies about 200 kilometres (125 miles) from Iranian shores.

But US media reports said 500 American troops will be based at the Prince Sultan military air base, south of Riyadh.

“Five hundred US troops in Saudi Arabia are hardly a buildup, particularly when we are thinking about a war with Iran,” said Krieg.

“These troops are there to prepare the Prince Sultan air base for potential deployment of an air squadron,” he added.

The base housed thousands of US troops and squadrons of jet fighters from 1991, starting with Operation Desert Storm after Iraq invaded Kuwait, to 2003 when the US-led invasion of Iraq toppled Saddam.

– What is the message? –

Analysts say the deployment is aimed at bolstering ties between Washington and Riyadh — particularly military relations — strained in the past year.

“The Saudis… are saying: if you stick with us we will stick with you,” said James Dorsey, a researcher at Singapore’s S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies.

“The Americans are trying to say: we have your back,” he added.

Trump’s administration has faced anger from lawmakers at home for not doing more to punish Saudi Arabia over last year’s killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi at the kingdom’s consulate in Istanbul.

CENTCOM chief Kenneth McKenzie pledged to work “aggressively” to ensure maritime safety in the strategic Gulf waterway during a visit Thursday to Prince Sultan air base.

The visit came a day after the US House of Representatives voted to block $8.1 billion in arms sales to the kingdom and other allies, in a move likely to be vetoed by Trump.

There has been growing outrage in the US, and around the world, over American arms sales to Saudi Arabia, with critics saying they are being used for its offensive in Yemen.

The UN says the Yemen conflict is the world’s worst humanitarian crisis.

– Is MBS a reliable partner? –

Despite the criticism, Trump has repeatedly hailed Saudi Arabia’s powerful crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, who is also the kingdom’s defence minister.

For the crown prince, also known by the acronym MBS, the deployment “is about showing that the US is still an important security guarantor and committed to Saudi security”, said Krieg.

MBS, he said, has long been trying to divert some US troops from Al Udeid air base in Qatar, home to Washington’s largest Middle East military base.

“It is important for MBS to get some US assets to show that he is relevant as a security partner for Washington,” said Krieg.

Around 10,000 US troops are deployed in Al Udeid, from among some 35,000 stationed in Gulf states including Kuwait and Bahrain, the latter being the home base of the US Fifth Fleet.

Al Udeid was set up in 2005 when the US was looking for a new air base in the region after it pulled troops out of Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia and its allies cut relations with Qatar in 2017 over Doha’s alleged support for Iran and Islamist movements — charges Qatar staunchly denies.

France24



35 Comments on "Is a new US-led war looming with Iran?"

  1. joe on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 9:27 am 

    Obviously MBS is the new Saddam Hussein, a guy being egged on to break every moral law to ensure that he relies solely on the US to stay in power. Usama bin laden attacked America mainly because he didn’t want US troops in Saudi Arabia’s heartland, 911 redo could be round the corner. This crisis is in part a response to the Dems actually voting and arms for war in Yemen. Now Saudi will get arms for defence against Iran and they’ll use em in Yemen. The UAE recently pulled out of the war, cause they know genocide is coming and they dont want blood on their hands, but guess what, at Nuremberg that became a war crime too. Even the Dems will be guilty.

  2. Robert Inget on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 12:35 pm 

    Couldn’t agree w/ ‘Joe’ more. (Including Demo Genocide guilt)

    News: The Muslim world is thinking of boycotting KSA for ‘The Hodge’. While a Google search found nothing on this ‘Hodge boycott’, I habitually listen to BBC all night as my sleeping aid. I heard it there. If I dreamed up this up, ignore. Fake news, perhaps?

    Could Saudis be so powerful as to delete such references?

    So far, ‘Tanker Wars’ score seem to be UK 1 Iran 0.
    The latest grab was a total dud. An empty Swedish ship flying a flag of convenience (GB) on its war to load in Saudi Arabia. Cargo value ZERO.
    OTOH the Iranian ship captured by UK, cargo value, 100 million USD.

    Looks like Iran will need try again. This time, blood will flow.

  3. Sissyfuss on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 1:28 pm 

    We’re just one overly aggressive action from $250 oil which then will plummet from the following economic collapse to more realistic prices for US camel pee.Got Sun?

  4. Anonymous on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 5:04 pm 

    US now exporting 3+ MM bopd. Seems like export markets not so dismissive of the camel piss.

    https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=wcrexus2&f=4

  5. Robert Inget on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 5:57 pm 

    It’s true, Anonymous.
    Exports, (imports) were held back by ‘Bruce’ or Barry, whatever. Wednesday’s EIA repore will show a deficit of over 10 million BB’s (or a half day’s domestic consumption).

    This entire brew ha ha with Iran is completely
    false flagish.

    Israel and the US didn’t bomb Iran ten years ago
    long before Russia’s defensive weapon, S/400,
    fell into Iranian hands. Now, with China and Russia
    (and Iraq) tuned into being Iran’s Allies, any military attack would end painfully for Israel, Sad Arabia and even sadder for the US Dollar.

    This is why we are waging economic war, not shootin. WE (including Israel and Sad Arabia)
    simply cannot afford another trillion dollar losing
    ME adventure.

    The inevitable: However, with so much military hardware in the region conflict by ‘proxy’ seems inevitable.

    The entire effort is to raise oil prices.
    One by one, OPEC enablers are running short of product. Sure enough, economies around the planet are faltering. Not unlike Donald’s smoking lies, instead of understanding how tariffs are killing us, we simply say ‘the world is slowing’.
    The term ‘glut’ is bing tossed around like a dead rat in an Australian bar-room.

    It’s not only Americans that have stopped buying ICE cars. That contagion spread to Europe, Asia and beyond.

    Current change-over is more on the order of going from animal power to machine.
    It took WW/1 to establish ICE as dominant.
    As a child, during wartime, up to age 10, our ice and milk was delivered by horse and wagons.

    The transition will be slow and painful for many.

    Trump’s next move, create another distraction.

  6. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 6:01 pm 

    True Robert—
    The drone shoot down was a wake up call for the US.
    They even put a 737 next to it full of passengers hoping that would be the target.
    Didn’t work, and Iran easily took out the drone (120+ million dollars gone)

  7. Davy on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 6:30 pm 

    “They even put a 737 next to it full of passengers hoping that would be the target.”

    Got a link, Idaho?

  8. makati1 on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 7:23 pm 

    War IS already underway. For now it is an economic war and it is being waged by the US against everyone, even its own citizens.

    The US is like a bully going around the playground, kicking kids to see if he can get a fight started. He needs a fight desperately to keep his rep as a bad guy to be obeyed. But he avoids directly kicking the kids with the real power, China and Russia, so he is currently picking on the #3 power, Iran, even though he knows it too has the power to take him down. Is it arrogance or desperation? Stay tuned…

  9. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 7:29 pm 

    Sure Davy-
    “With the US drone in the region there was also an American P-8 plane with 35 people on board. This plane also entered our airspace and we could have shot it down, but we did not.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Iranian_shoot-down_of_American_drone
    (the P-8 is another version of the 737)

  10. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 7:35 pm 

    “Hours later, the Pentagon confirmed the presence of a P-8 Poseidon aircraft close to the incident.”
    See Davy, you need to be better informed, and use detailed information.

  11. Davy on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 8:44 pm 

    Damn it. Looks like I lost yet another ‘debate’. I do that a lot.

  12. Davy on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 8:47 pm 

    Hey lookie there, mak is still around after all. Looks like I was wrong again.

  13. makati1 on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 9:37 pm 

    Sorry to burst your bubble, Davy, but PO is way down on my priority list these days.

  14. Davy on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 9:57 pm 

    Me too mak.

    Did I mention I won’t be posting comments here much anymore cause I’m concentrating on my lame and obscure blog? I’m pretty sure I might of.

  15. Cloggie on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 11:38 pm 

    “As a child, during wartime, up to age 10, our ice and milk was delivered by horse and wagons.”

    We had them too, as late as in the seventies:

    Melkman:

    https://images.app.goo.gl/aRD634kS95s7bb7k6

    Schillenboer (untranslatable, “peel-farmer”)

    https://images.app.goo.gl/URJFrKRvTMKBhEY76

    Somebody who goes door-to-door to collect organic waste.

    https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schillenboer

  16. Cloggie on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 11:48 pm 

    Brexit about saving British identity? Hahaha, think again. It’s about anti-white Global Britain only:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7270839/Boris-Johnson-likely-appoint-highest-number-ethnic-minority-ministers-Cabinet.html

    “Boris Johnson is likely to appoint the highest number ever of black and ethnic minority ministers to his Cabinet if he becomes Prime Minister”

    According to BoJo’s ex-wife, BoJo is proud of his Turkish roots. He was born in New York. His hero is the half-American Churchill. Exactly the right guy to finish off Britain once and for all.

  17. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 12:59 am 

    In the 70’s we had to walk to the synagogue, using our own feet no less. We had no robotic wheel-chairs or smart-cars made by the fine jews at Goggle back then. I was in my 50s at that point, and could still kind of walk on my own, but only when I felt like it, which wasn’t often to be honest. Now, with robot cars and fridges just around the corner, I wont even have to get off my sodden wrinkled ass to do anything, like get my own powered milk or anything like that. I knew the future was going to be incredible, but I had no idea it was going to be this great. I mean, I dont actually have a robot fridge or car, but I can be anyone I want to be on this internet thing. That is just as good as a robot car that can ferry me to the around the block for no real reason.

    Oy vey!

  18. Cloggie on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 1:28 am 

    Breakfast with the DailyMail, ignoring the black loon from Toronto:

    New temperature records coming up in Northern Europe:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7270533/Heatwave-forecast-hit-UK-week-smash-time-temperature-record-July.html

    “Heat dreams! Tonight could be Britain’s hottest EVER with temperatures not falling below 77F as ‘Moroccan flare’ heatwave roars in, forecasters warn”

    The harvest will be bad again this year thanks to a severe drought, even in Holland. Perhaps more countries will follow the Dutch example and switch to robotized agriculture in greenhouses, that requires hardly any water at all:

    http://d3e1m60ptf1oym.cloudfront.net/c9401844-c35a-11e3-88ed-f2b86e40979d/79091_xgaplus.jpg

    It works even in the desert, with desalinated seawater from solar power:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2017/06/14/sea-water-green-houses-in-the-desert/

    British old school politics disintegrating over Europe:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7270777/Boris-Johnson-set-crowned-Prime-Minister-Tuesday-six-ministers-threaten-quit.html

    “Boris Johnson is set to be crowned Prime Minister tomorrow – but six ministers threaten to quit in protest and a further six Tory MPs could DEFECT to the Lib Dems”

    Half of Britain wants to remain Europe, the other half Anglo.

    Sensible Final Solution of the British Problem: park them in low orbit, economically integrated into Eurosphere, but give them the geopolitical freedom to take back Canada and New England, so we don’t have to… and we can team up with Russia (at an opportune moment) and go for the real North-American meat:

    #DivisionOfLabor
    #BritishEmpireLite

    To my surprise, they are apparently still together, albeit with a reduced set of Wedgwood tableware:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7270075/Destination-Downing-Street-Boris-Carrie-leave-country-pad-ahead-historic-political-week.html

    “Johnson and Carrie Symonds leave his country pad ahead of week in which he is expected to become prime minister and enter No 10 with her at his side”

    Yesterday there was some wishful thinking in the Telegraph about European countries defecting from the EU-line and offering separate agreements. All BS.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7269509/Ireland-warns-Boris-Johnson-tearing-Brexit-deal-cause-trouble.html

    “Nothing has changed! Irish deputy PM warns that the EU will NOT change the backstop and threatens Boris Johnson with ‘trouble’ if he goes for No Deal”

    Britain skillfully set up for war by the US (like in 1939), now against Iran:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7270909/Geopolitical-analyst-Phil-Diacon-details-Strait-Hormuz-chaotic-volatile.html

    “Why the Strait of Hormuz is so chaotic and volatile: Perilous shipping channel is patrolled by 2,000 Iranian speedboats and has earned the nickname Chokepoint Charlie from the British Navy”

    #SpecialRelationshipAlright

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7271001/PETER-OBORNE-blame-warmonger-whispering-Donald-Trumps-ear.html

    “PETER OBORNE: Why I blame ‘warmonger’ whispering in Donald Trump’s ear”

    Iran humiliating the UK by releasing footage of a seized British ship with Iranian flag (bet your last dollar that Iran has an understanding with both Russia and China and got the nod)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7270149/State-TV-shows-Irans-flag-hoisted-seized-British-oil-tanker.html

    “Iran’s flag is hoisted over seized British tanker: State TV broadcasts new footage of Tehran’s forces on the decks of the UK-registered Stena Impero”

    Iran stating the obvious:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7269795/Iran-accuses-John-Bolton-trying-drag-Britain-quagmire.html

    “Iran accuses Trump’s national security adviser John Bolton of trying to drag Britain into the ‘war of the century'”

    There is not a snowball’s chance in hell that Russia+China are going to let the US invade Iran unopposed like they did with Iraq. 2019 could be the year of the Death of the Navies.

  19. Dooma on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 4:10 am 

    US to KSA, “we have your back”. Isreal to the US, “we have our hand firmly inserted in you tuches”.

  20. Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 5:45 am 

    “They even put a 737 next to it full of passengers hoping that would be the target.” “Got a link, Idaho?”
    Duncan Idaho on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 7:29 pm
    Sure Davy- “With the US drone in the region there was also an American P-8 plane with 35 people on board. This plane also entered our airspace and we could have shot it down, but we did not.”
    “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Iranian_shoot-down_of_American_drone (the P-8 is another version of the 737)”
    “Hours later, the Pentagon confirmed the presence of a P-8 Poseidon aircraft close to the incident.”
    See Davy, you need to be better informed, and use detailed information.”

    Come on dumbass, a P-8 is a military asset not a 737. Idaho, either you are a deceptive lying fuck or you are just stupid. You original comment stated a 737 which is a passenger plane, duh, but maybe you don’t know.

  21. ID theft on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 5:47 am 

    Davy on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 8:44 pm
    Damn it. Looks like I lost yet another ‘debate’. I do that a lot.
    Davy on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 8:47 pm
    Hey lookie there, mak is still around after all. Looks like I was wrong again.

  22. Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 5:50 am 

    makati1 on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 9:37 pm
    Sorry to burst your bubble, Davy, but PO is way down on my priority list these days.

    Sorry to burst your bubbly, mak you are not even on my priority list. I lost interest in your stupidity 2 years ago. Basically you are a blabbering old man with nothing new to contribute to what I am looking for. Go play with your pet monkey.

  23. ID theft on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 5:52 am 

    Davy on Sun, 21st Jul 2019 9:57 pm

    Me too mak.

    Did I mention I won’t be posting comments here much anymore cause I’m concentrating on my lame and obscure blog? I’m pretty sure I might of.

  24. Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 5:58 am 

    You are so not on my priority list mak, that I don’t even make comments about you anymore. As a matter of fact, I haven’t made a single comment to you or about you in 2 years and I never talk about your pet monkey that I made up in my deluded head.

  25. Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 6:14 am 

    BTW y’all, the only comments that matter on this lame and obscure forum, are the comments that contribute to what I am looking for. Cause this lame and obscure forum is all about ME.

  26. ID theft on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 6:20 am 

    Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 5:58 am

    You are so not on my priority list mak, that I don’t even make comments about you anymore. As a matter of fact, I haven’t made a single comment to you or about you in 2 years and I never talk about your pet monkey that I made up in my deluded head.

    Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 6:14 am

    BTW y’all, the only comments that matter on this lame and obscure forum, are the comments that contribute to what I am looking for. Cause this lame and obscure forum is all about ME.

  27. Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 6:28 am 

    Did I mention how lame and obscure I think this forum is? I think I might of.

    That’s why I spend every minute of every day checking my cellphone for new comments. Cause this forum is so lame, and so obscure.

  28. ID theft on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 6:29 am 

    Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 6:28 am

    Did I mention how lame and obscure I think this forum is? I think I might of.

    That’s why I spend every minute of every day checking my cellphone for new comments. Cause this forum is so lame, and so obscure.

  29. Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 7:42 am 

    Mak, may I pump your pet monkey, please?

    Humper Pumper Number 9-M

  30. ID theft on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 8:32 am 

    Davy on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 7:42 am

    Mak, may I pump your pet monkey, please?

    Humper Pumper Number 9-M

  31. makati1 on Mon, 22nd Jul 2019 6:24 pm 

    Scanning the headlines this Tuesday AM, I see the US is another day closer to collapse and the world another day closer to total war. Nothing new. There has been a lack of positive news for years now.

    Well, a lot fluff and bullshit if you like to follow worthless celebrities or read about the graft and corruption in the US government, you might consider that as positive, or at least entertaining. A waste of time.

    You American tax slaves might want to check out where your hard earned taxes are going:

    “So Just how Effective is the Most Expensive Military Machine in History?”

    https://journal-neo.org/2019/07/20/so-just-how-effective-is-the-most-expensive-military-machine-in-history/

    “The arms race between Russia and the US started as soon as WWII came to a close, with each party being desperate to outpace its competitor in the struggle to create the most advanced and lethal weapons possible. Then, when the dissolution of the USSR was announced, Washington grew confident of its uncontested dominance in the sphere of military technology.

    However, once Russia’s Vladimir Putin unveiled the brand new capabilities of the latest generation of Russian long-range nuclear capable missiles, it became obvious to pretty much everyone that Washington was lagging behind, as it hasn’t even started the development of such systems, let alone testing and producing them.”

    All the US can do now is produce worthless crap for high prices. Even its old allies are turning to Russian systems because, they work and they are cheaper. How safe are YOU in America? Read on….if you dare.

  32. Cloggie on Tue, 23rd Jul 2019 12:03 pm 

    Expect this to become the new normal:

    European politicians mock Jeremy Hunt’s plan for a ‘European Naval Force’ to protect ships in the Gulf despite Britain’s imminent departure from Europe – while Iran claims the proposal will bring ‘insecurity’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7276615/Iran-angrily-rejects-Britains-plan-European-protection-mission-Gulf.html

  33. Cloggie on Wed, 24th Jul 2019 2:47 am 

    Britain’s “darkest hour”. So you thought Brexit was about saving English England.lol!

    Diversity champ BoJo to present the most diverse cabinet in British history. Brexit essentially is a globalist, anti-white, anti-European revolution.

    Whatever, as long as they leave.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7278895/Rumours-swirl-Boris-Johnson-select-Cabinet.html

    “Is this Boris’s first cabinet? As Johnson prepares to meet the Queen and be crowned PM TODAY names emerge of the Brexiteer-heavy, ethnically diverse top team tipped to help him deliver Brexit in 100 days

  34. Cloggie on Wed, 24th Jul 2019 4:47 am 

    King of debt. Reps and Dems agree once again to raise the debt ceiling:

    https://m.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/usa-wollen-mehr-schulden-machen-donald-trump-ist-der-koenig-im-schuldenstaat-a-1278712.html

    1.7 trillion additional debt in the coming decade.

  35. Cloggie on Wed, 24th Jul 2019 4:52 am 

    What China resents most: US presence in Asia

    https://m.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/china-wirft-usa-gefaehrdung-der-stabilitaet-in-asien-vor-a-1278734.html

    #LetThemLockHorns

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