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Boomer generation must address climate change now

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I can understand the concern over Oregon’s cap and trade bill. I can also understand that it is controversial. However, as a professional engineer licensed in two states and a small woodland owner, I am not sure that the issue of energy use and climate change is fully understood by most.

Please look at the big picture: world population, 7.7 billion; United States population, 327 million; Oregon population, 4.25 million; 2014 world energy consumption, 372.39 quad BTU; United States yearly energy consumption, 97.9 quad BTU. In other words, our energy consumption is totally out of proportion to the rest of the world. We are “the haves.” There are a lot of “have nots” in the world. Then, consider that Oregon lives in the “Goldilocks Zone,” where we won’t be impacted as much by climate changes as other areas of the world. However, please understand that there are 7.7 billion people in the world and only 327 million in the United States. A lot of those people in the world will have to go somewhere else. In fact, some of our southern border immigrants are climate refugees. They cannot grow food due to lack of rainfall. Oregon has a population of 4.25 million. The metro area of Phoenix has 4.27 million. If only a quarter of the population of Phoenix became a climate refuge and moved to Oregon, our population would grow 25 percent.

We have not planned for that growth rate. In fact, since I deal with it on a daily basis, our land use regulation system has ensured that we will continue to have to drive our cars from work to shopping to home in an endless triangle, and subdivisions will continue to expand into our valuable farm land.

In the 1970s, I saw the barn burnt down in King City for the shopping center, now you can drive from that shopping center through subdivisions to within a mile of Forest Grove. This is unsustainable, but our land use system has mandated this model. Cities historically grew from a summer trading spot to a year-round store, to a village, to a city, then to Detroit. What historically was a natural progression is now a planning and zoning nightmare. I deal with it daily. I am also a tree farmer. I have been planting trees since the 1950s with a 90- to 95-percent survival rate. Now, I am lucky to have a 50-percent survival rate and have replanted one area three times now. Some of my mature trees are dying. Something has changed. In conclusion, my generation (I am on Social Security) will continue to enjoy our life style. My generation’s children will experience climate unrest in their golden years, and their children will experience an uncertain future. Our responsibility is not “business as usual.” We need to not only change how we do things, but need to make huge changes in how we do things. Our world is changing, it is up to us to anticipate it and act on behalf of those that follow. Having the Republicans running away and hiding is not the solution. Leonard Rydell is a Newberg resident

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80 Comments on "Boomer generation must address climate change now"

  1. Sissyfuss on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 9:25 am 

    Lived in Oregon, beautiful country but now too expensive. As far as changing the way we do things, the ruling class knows only BAU and convinces the proles it’s in their best interest to go along. As far as tree health, some research is stating that the increase in ground level ozone from our cars and factories destroys the trees ability to cycle through their seasonal transformations. Oh, and the heat index for the weekend in Michigan is going to reach 107°. I’m having flashbacks of living in Florida during a record setting summer decades ago.

  2. Davy on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 9:55 am 

    Sis, you live in UP I believe. Wonderful country. !!

  3. Duncan Idaho on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 10:27 am 

    “Oregon has a population of 4.25 million. The metro area of Phoenix has 4.27 million.”
    I’m an Oregon resident– and I can’t imagine living in Phoenix. But Oregon does have its share of F350 driving rednecks.

  4. Davy on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 10:32 am 

    “But Oregon does have its share of F350 driving rednecks.“

    But also blind lying liberal extremists, snowflake identity confused idiots, and Anifa fucks. All in all Oregon was a wonderful place and now raped of reason.

  5. JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 11:38 am 

    Learn how to get your foul mouth under control juanpee or go away.

    juanpee ID Theft
    Davy on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 10:32 am

  6. claes on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 11:39 am 

    DavySkum is such the asshole he can’t resist being a first class douche.

  7. juanpee Identity theft on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 11:46 am 

    JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 11:38 am

  8. JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 11:54 am 

    Senate Bill Would ‘Properly Identify’ Antifa As ‘Domestic Terrorist Organization’
    Profile picture for user Tyler Durden
    by Tyler Durden
    Fri, 07/19/2019 – 10:16
    A new resolution introduced by Senators Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Bill Cassidy (R-LA) would “properly identify” Antifa as “Domestic Terrorists.”

    Introduced Thursday, the resolution defines Antifa as “a movement that intentionally combines violence with the group’s alt-left positions,” and “represents opposition to the democratic ideals of peaceful assembly and free speech for all.”

    The measure then lists several examples of Antifa behavior, including:

    Assaulting conservative journalist Andy Ngo in February and June of 2019, putting him in the hospital.
    Doxxing ICE employees.
    Confronting an ICE officer when he went to pick up his daughter from summer camp, as well as plastering “his name and photo” on flyers outside his home labeling him as part of the “Gestapo.”
    Explicitly rejecting the authority of law enforcement to
    “protect free speech and stop acts of violence.”
    ⚠️READ: Senate Resolution proposal presented to designate ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist group. https://t.co/Wr68qPMIBd pic.twitter.com/Em9uOg5HeG

    — NewsChute (@NewsChute) July 19, 2019
    After Ngo was beaten and robbed by members of Portland’s Antifa cell, a GoFundMe established for the journalist raised $195,680 out of its original $50,000 goal after an outpouring of support.

    First skirmish I’ve seen. Didn’t see how this started, but @MrAndyNgo got roughed up. pic.twitter.com/hDkfQchRhG

    — Jim Ryan (@Jimryan015) June 29, 2019
    As noted by The Blaze, however, labeling Antifa as “Domestic Terrorists” may also require an entirely new law.

    federal law does not have the same clear-cut designation for domestic terrorism organizations that it does for foreign terror organizations (FTOs), explained Andy McCarthy in a 2017 column at National Review.

    “There are federal-law processes for designating foreign and international terrorism because defending against foreign threats to national security is primarily a federal responsibility,” McCarthy explained, because foreign operatives have fewer civil rights protections than American citizens and that the best weapon against domestic terror is local law enforcement, not federal. -The Blaze

    Portland, meanwhile, is mulling a ban on wearing masks at protests in an effort to crack down on Antifa violence.

  9. juanpee ID Theft on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 11:59 am 

    JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 11:54 am

  10. muhamadbinpedoalameriki-akafmr on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 12:00 pm 

    Big permacultism pulled a sun tzu’s on me using occasional”dumb ass” and fantastic flying goat stories. All for covering big FGM muzzie lovin’. NASTY But now I’m allah juiced fmr it’s starting to sting
    Then there were occasion when the heat got intense with telling big muzzie beard pbuh to ban me groom jihadwatch
    And finally a break through all out resistance to my posting. Because I reverted to 7th century superior muzzie monkey
    “You are the best 7th century superior monkey of humanity Allah ha created”

  11. JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 12:16 pm 

    For anyone that cares, I’m going to bed now. I’m looking forward to another very long day of totally fucking insane sock puppetry and stupid identity theft.
    I love this shit and I hate all you guys. It makes me feel so much better about my pathetic waste of a life.
    dumbasses

  12. juanpee ID Theft on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 12:30 pm 

    JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 12:16 pm

  13. JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 12:39 pm 

    I am spending less time on this lame unmoderated forum to concentrate on my own blog. I do want to thank all those who have attacked me with giving me material for growth. I have saved the best of my comments for my new blog. I have years worth of my own material that nobody else will ever read.

  14. juanpee on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 12:40 pm 

    Your a LIAR JuanP!

  15. muhamadbinpedoalameriki-akafmr on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 4:23 pm 

    Big permacultism pulled a sun tzu’s on me using occasional”dumb ass” and fantastic flying goat stories. All for covering big FGM muzzie lovin’. NASTY But now I’m allah juiced fmr it’s starting to sting
    And now big ozark is creating diversion with starting “blog”. Its all part of deception a soft false flag if you will.
    But still other supertard starting with S is saying maintain opposite strategy 6th army. Ignore him. 6th army engaged every strong fortification on way to stalingrad allowing Soviets to regroup but by then fuhrer was in full command of war theater
    Then there were occasion when the heat got intense with telling big muzzie beard pbuh to ban me from jihadwatch
    And finally a break through all out resistance to my posting. Because I reverted to 7th century superior muzzie monkey
    “You are the best 7th century superior monkey of humanity Allah ha created”

  16. Davy AKA muhamadbinpedoalameriki-akafmr on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 4:59 pm 

    Just a friendly reminder to my message of 10 June 2019…..

    With thanks to my many sock puppets and ID theft, I am spending less time on this lame unmoderated forum to concentrate on my own blog. I do want to thank all those who have attacked me with giving me material for growth. I have saved the best of my comments for my new blog. I have years worth of material. I have enjoyed moderating the worst of you and neutering your selfish useless agendas. I will still be here it is just I will be spending more time putting out a blog. I don’t expect much of a following with my blog. This is more a personal effort to assemble what I have learned over the last 10 years of formulating my REAL Green Deep Adaptation. Many of my ideas and lifestyles are not mine. I barrow what ever works. I do not claim anything either. It is an open source effort. Anyone can take what I am offering and use it however you want. Take my title if you like. For the stalkers here I hope you find my blog and visit the comment forum. It will be only lightly moderated to prevent juanpee identity theft and excessive cloggo spamming. LOL. There will be a prize for juanpee and annoymouse if you can stalk my blog. Double LOL. Anyway fuck my enemies and many thanks to those who contributed to my metamorphous.

    I guess I could have joined the moderated section at PO dot com, but I knew I’d get my ass permanently banned. I’ll try not to let the door smack me up the backside on the way out.

    Goodbye to ALL of you dumbasses.

  17. JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 5:52 pm 

    I’m looking forward to another very long day of totally fucking insane sock puppetry and stupid identity theft.
    I love this shit and I hate all you guys. It makes me feel so much better about my pathetic waste of a life.
    dumbasses

  18. JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 5:57 pm 

    mak has been absent for a long time now. I wonder if he is sick or worse?? I am worried.

  19. More juanpee Identity Theft on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 6:23 pm 

    JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 5:52 pm

    JuanP on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 5:57 pm

  20. muhamadbinpedoalameriki-akafmr on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 11:22 pm 

    Big permacultism pulled a sun tzu’s on me using occasional”dumbass” and fantastic flying goat stories. All for covering big FGM muzzie lovin’. NASTY But now I’m allah juiced fmr it’s starting to sting
    And now big ozark is creating diversion with starting “blog”. Its all part of deception a soft false flag if you will.
    But still other supertard starting with S is saying maintain opposite strategy 6th army – Ignore him. 6th army engaged every strong fortification on way to stalingrad allowing Soviets to regroup but by then fuhrer was in full command of war theater
    Then there were occasions when the heat got intense with telling big muzzie beard pbuh to ban me from jihadwatch
    And finally a break through all out resistance to my posting. Because I reverted to 7th century superior muzzie monkey
    “You are the best of humanity allah every created in the form of 7th century superior muzzie part ape part pig”

  21. muhamadbinpedoalameriki-akafmr on Fri, 19th Jul 2019 11:42 pm 

    how long before big muzzie FGM NASTY self detonate in the hall of congress?
    “you’re a muzzie monkey part pig allalh command you to kill unbelievers and be killed, allah purchased you”
    and are we goig to dellare muzzies combattants after this?

  22. pointer on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 5:20 am 

    It is too late. It is like being on a bus that has already gone over the edge of a cliff. No point even in being alarmed. Probably the only thing that makes sense is to make yourself as comfortable as possible, say your goodbyes, and wait for impact.

  23. Davy on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 6:10 am 

    “VPPs with smart inverters offer crucial flexibility to the changing grid”
    https://tinyurl.com/y39r7fq2 renewable energy world

    “EV charging has created demand patterns causing an even steeper and faster ramp-up in the evenings than the PV duck curve…This is causing the grid’s balancing act to be increasingly complex. PV incentive structures evolving towards self-consumption as it incentivizes system owners to consume more of the energy they produce. This is leading to consumers installing EV chargers, solar batteries, and other smart energy devices to better leverage the production of their PV systems. However, in order for these distributed energy resources to truly offer any value in terms of self-consumption and grid stability, they need to be smartly managed both locally and at the macro level. Key to managing these new flexible energy resources is the smart inverter, which acts as an energy manager for PV, storage, EV charging, and other smart appliances, in addition to grid interaction. At the local energy system level, the inverter can be programmed to maximize self-consumption, such as storing excess solar energy in a battery for later use or shifting consumption to match PV production. While at the grid level, the inverter can manage these underlying demand-flexible resources to support grid stability, such as discharging batteries into the grid to meet demand or pausing EV charging to decrease demand. Due to the inverter’s location as an interface between the local energy system and the grid, it also plays a strategic role in the deployment of virtual power plants (VPPs). VPPs pool PVs, batteries, and EV chargers in the cloud to instantly and automatically modify generation or consumption in order to stabilize grid frequency and voltage and more efficiently meet demand.”

  24. Davy on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 6:11 am 

    I am wondering how making the grid more complex is innovation? Are we at diminishing returns with our modern grid? The grid is already under pressure from wear and tear with infrastructure that is dated. I can see doing some of this innovation if at the same time an effort is made to lower complexity with efforts at adapted intermittency living. Rural locations can be taken off the grid in regards to baseline power and adapted to the intermittency of renewables. They can be adapted seasonally also. A minimum of baseline power could be maintained for critical system. This then would be an adapted hybrid system.

    In some of these locations excess power could be sold to the grid with renewable generation and battery feeders. These rural locals could be power and storage resources. In addition, these rural locations can be engaged in food and biomass production. These efforts would give rural areas new resources to produce and that would be embraced intermittency to contribute to the grid but also the food chain. They would be both a feeder of power like a battery but also a demand limiter. These locations would adapt their living to the intermittency of what they produce and sell off their resulting production and virtual storage.

    It is apparent that rural areas make up a much smaller footprint than urban and suburban areas but in this time of grid complexity this rural inverter resource could enhance grid operator options. Rural agricultural areas are better able to live with intermittency than more urban areas. This can be further enhanced by embraced localized living. If grids are going to increase complexity then it should be focused based on value. Trying to make the whole system technologically complex may be setting the system up for failure.

    Adapted rural intermittency then needs protection from the delocalizing efforts of market-based capitalism. This market-based capitalism sells cheaper price due to economies of scale, monocultures and on demand baseline power but could be adapted to subsidize locals engaged in seasonality and intermittency. These local areas cannot make this transition if their efforts are penalized by forces of market-based capitalism. This means their food production and their consumption must be supported through subsidies and barriers. These locals could then engage in protected localism. This will allow rurals to engage in power production, biomass production, and demand management efforts that then can be harnessed by grid operators as another inverter resource. These areas can be a virtual storage resource through multiple varied efforts. Instead of only focusing on techno options we need effort at the harnessing of behavior and location to benefit grid complexity.

    This could be taken a step further globally by tempering the efforts at sustainable development that is essentially trying to bring new customers into the market-based capitalism system of modern life. Leave these less developed areas in lower development and subsidize their advantages. Give these areas a minimum of baseline power to support critical systems and harness their demand management potential and power production potential.

  25. Davy on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 6:28 am 

    “Germany’s renewable energy program, Energiewende, is a big, expensive failure”
    https://tinyurl.com/yxnsybrv energy skeptic

    “After reading this post, or better yet the original 44-page document, you’ll understand why the Green New Deal is a bad idea. This is a cautionary tale worth paying attention to…Germany’s electricity rates have skyrocketed to the highest levels in the EU because of the Energiewende debacle. Other news about Energiewende: Germany’s Federal Audit Office has accused the federal government of having largely failed to manage the transformation of Germany’s energy systems (Energiewende program), and will miss its targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions, energy consumption and the share of renewable energy in transport. At the same time, policy makers had burdened the nation with enormous costs. The audit further concluded that the program is a monumental bureaucratic nightmare. The build-up of renewables benefited from more than $800 billion in subsidies. The country has not just been burning coal; it has been burning lignite, one of the dirtiest fuels on the planet. In fact, in 2016, seven of the 10 worst polluting facilities in Europe were German lignite plants. When it’s windy and bright, the grid is so flooded with power that prices in the wholesale market sometimes drop below zero. Transport consumes 30 percent and mining & manufacturing 29% of Germany’s power, but for each, only 4 percent of its energy comes from renewables. Households use 26% of power, but only 13% of it comes from renewables, and Trade, commerce and services 15% but just 7% renewables. Germany’s carbon emissions have stagnated at roughly their 2009 level. The country remains Europe’s largest producer and burner of coal, which generates more than one-third of Germany’s power supply. Moreover, emissions in the transportation sector have shot up by 20 percent since 1995 and are rising with no end in sight.”

  26. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 6:48 am 

    ““Germany’s renewable energy program, Energiewende, is a big, expensive failure””

    That rubbish is written by this incompetent…

    Alice Friedemann

    …who also wrote: “41 Reasons why wind power can not replace fossil fuels”.

    I dealt with that 12-year old nonsense here:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2018/12/28/prejudices-from-amateurs-against-wind-energy/

    America and oil will go down hand-in-hand.

    Friedemann should worry about Israel instead and leave energy matters to those who invented the immense scientific and technological civilization in the first place:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/origin-scientific-accomplishments/

    Friedemann, like Heinberg, is an amateur, yearning for a tall doomer tale, to escape the anonymity where she belongs.

  27. Sissyfuss on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 8:14 am 

    The only thing worse than a progressive to Clinfowars is a progressive woman. The chauvinist oinker wants them barefoot and pregnant to keep them from challenging his desire to be Lord of the manner. Those days are over but the prince of Nazi propaganda refuses to evolve culturally. Another insecure male who cannot see beyond a woman’s naughty bits to discover an actualized human being capable of living free .

  28. Davy on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 8:21 am 

    ““Germany’s renewable energy program, Energiewende, is a big, expensive failure”” “That rubbish is written by this incompetent…Alice Friedemann”
    LOL, attack the source instead of explain why it is not a failure. Cloggo, Alice’s numbers are accurate. Germany’s goals are unrealistic in relation to expectations. Germany is just like all the other fake greens both individuals and nations, you included, that want to run the same system by different means. We are in an energy trap. We can make the trap less entrapped or more. Your ideas just make the trap worse.

    “…who also wrote: “41 Reasons why wind power can not replace fossil fuels””
    The same reason that energiewende is a failure explains why wind power cannot replace fossil fuels in the current economic and social paradigm. With small populations and different mindsets in adaptable locals, I would agree it is possible. The techno optimistic affluent modern version will be a failure just like the failings of energiewende.

  29. Davy on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 8:28 am 

    “The only thing worse than a progressive to Clinfowars is a progressive woman. The chauvinist oinker wants them barefoot and pregnant to keep them from challenging his desire to be Lord of the manner.”

    A moderate progressive woman then I am in agreement with you sis. The rabid violent identity feminist who are consumed by anger we are seeing today is a failure. These people are definitely “me too” but in the narcissistic deranged way of people lost in anger and resentment of a neurotic ego. Womanhood is being destroyed by these women. In any case the mentally violent and irrational feminist are destine to be consumed by collapse. Like it or not a woman’s place will be back to procreating and home economics when the world falls apart. It is not like it will be much better for the men dying as cannon fodder and toiling in the fields and primitive factories they are destine for.

  30. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 9:17 am 

    “LOL, attack the source instead of explain why it is not a failure.”

    Simple: Germany has ca. 43% electricity from renewables and is “despite that” economic “Weltmeister” in about everything…

    Surpluses wherever you look.

    So what does Friedemann mean… “German electricity is too expensive”? By what measure?

    But the Friedemann’s of this world will always find ways to attack Germany.

    Fortunately her colony is going down the drain.

    There was indeed lately some (highly exaggerated) negative news about the German energy transition because of the stereo-typical “not-in-my-backyard” attitude.

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2019/05/04/energy-transition-in-germany-stagnating/

    Every German loves the Energiewende, but begins to whine of a turbine or new gridlines need to be built in his backyard. Value-of-his-home thingy. The problem can be solved by building more offshore wind parks.

    But the main problem is the stagnation with building the Suedlink, that is bringing renewable electricity from North- and Ost-Sea to the South.

    Building new capacity is absolutely NO problem. Developers are hand-wringing lining up for the privilege to build new parks “for free”, without a single government dime, purely with money available in the markets (pension-funds and the like).

    US-transition:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/09/analysis-cost-of-u-s-transition-to-100-renewables-4-5-trillion/

    “ANALYSIS: COST OF U.S. TRANSITION TO 100% RENEWABLES – $4.5 TRILLION”

    Absolutely peanuts, that’s 2-3 months worth of US GDP. But the US government refuses to pick that road. Too much listening to loons like Friedemann and floppy’s infamous “Google engineers”.LOL

    But I’m OK with that. Puts a geopolitical competitor like you at a safe distance, while we Europeans acquire all the patents, skills and companies. So please America, by all means, talk yourself into the grave.

  31. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 9:52 am 

    Europe risks irrelevance in the age of great power competition
    https://www.ft.com/content/c4f8d89c-a898-11e9-90e9-fc4b9d9528b4

    Europe is already irreverent..Just like Clogg..The Nazi carnival barker!

    LOL

  32. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 10:27 am 

    “Europe risks irrelevance in the age of great power competition”

    Paywall.

    /shrug

    You just googled a headline and came up with an Anglo source. Who cares. The only one who risks irrelevance is the US. Boeing, energy transition (or lack there off), high political instability, if not CW. Massive deficits. You better worry about your own problems.

    Four more years! LOL

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/final-voyage/

    “Final Voyage”

  33. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 10:41 am 

    On topic:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7267725/Climate-scientists-signal-alarm-Arctic-heatwave-hits-northernmost-settlement-planet.html

    ‘This is unprecedented’: Climate scientists signal alarm as Arctic heatwave hits the northernmost settlement on the planet, causing temperatures to reach 70 DEGREES for the first time ever

  34. Davy on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 11:49 am 

    “Simple: Germany has ca. 43% electricity from renewables and is “despite that” economic “Weltmeister” in about everything…Surpluses wherever you look..So what does Friedemann mean… “German electricity is too expensive”? By what measure?”
    Cloggo, remove wind and solar from the 43% equation. This is important because this is where most of the new growth is expected to come from. 43% is electricity not primary power. Tell us again how much coal Germany burns? It is obvious to all who have studied the matter that Germany has some of the highest electricity costs in the world. It has also been written about that Germany renewable effort is stalling. Why it is stalling is it is hitting the ceiling of grid penetration when everything gets more difficult and more expensive. This is all happening at a time when Germany’s economy is in decline. This is not an optimistic picture for the bold goals of energiewende.

    “There was indeed lately some (highly exaggerated) negative news about the German energy transition because of the stereo-typical “not-in-my-backyard” attitude. Every German loves the Energiewende, but begins to whine of a turbine or new gridlines need to be built in his backyard. Value-of-his-home thingy. The problem can be solved by building more offshore wind parks.”
    Offshore wind still needs grid lines, cloggo. You can’t expect all the new growth to be off shore. There is a huge built out wind power complex on land in Germany that is nearing its useful life. This will have to be dealt with.

    “Building new capacity is absolutely NO problem. Developers are hand-wringing lining up for the privilege to build new parks “for free”, without a single government dime, purely with money available in the markets (pension-funds and the like).”
    Bullshit, with renewables stalling and the economy in decline it is a tough go to meet the bold goals that have been established. It is more like they will likely not be met.

    “ANALYSIS: COST OF U.S. TRANSITION TO 100% RENEWABLES – $4.5 TRILLION” Absolutely peanuts, that’s 2-3 months worth of US GDP. But the US government refuses to pick that road. Too much listening to loons like Friedemann and floppy’s infamous “Google engineers”.LOL”
    WTF, $4.5 trillion is peanuts??? Cloggo, you have zero business and economic sense.

    “But I’m OK with that. Puts a geopolitical competitor like you at a safe distance, while we Europeans acquire all the patents, skills and companies. So please America, by all means, talk yourself into the grave.”
    More of cloggo’s stupid dishonest chauvinism. It gets old when you play the we are better than you card. Cloggo, I have great admiration for what the Germans have achieved with renewable energy. I am not impressed with their unrealistic goals This is a failure and you will eat crow someday as you always do eventually as your fantasy evaporates into thin air.

  35. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 12:49 pm 

    Germany’s renewable energy program, Energiewende, is a big, expensive failure

    “The goal of Energiewende was to make Germany independent of fossil fuels. But it hasn’t worked out. The 29,000 wind turbines and 1.6 million PV systems provide only 3.1% of Germany’s energy needs and have cost well over 100 billion Euros so far and likely another 450 billion Euros over the next two decades. And much more than that when you add in the extra cost of maintaining fossil generation systems to back up the lack of wind and sunshine from seconds to weeks.

    Because of their extremely low energy density and need for a great deal of space, forests are being cut down, pits dug, and filled with hundreds of tons of reinforced concrete for wind turbines to stand on, 5 acres per turbine. With the forest no longer protecting the soil, it is now vulnerable to wind and rain erosion.

    Because wind and solar farms get a guaranteed price for 20 years, they have no need to innovate, do research, or please customers, who paid them 176 billion euros for electricity with a market value of just 5 billion euros from 2000-2016. This is money that taxpayers could have used to build bridges, energy efficient buildings, or renovate schools, which would create even more jobs than the wind and solar industry claims so they can tout themselves as good for society, perhaps they aren’t so great when you look at other ways and jobs that could have been created with all the subsidies (Vernunftkraft 2018).

    Germany’s electricity rates have skyrocketed to the highest levels in the EU because of the Energiewende debacle.”

    http://energyskeptic.com/2019/germanys-renewable-energy-program-energiewende-is-a-big-expensive-failure/?fbclid=IwAR34_eXCWUmQG2kOTo1UfDuBR9S09mwqDc-9luBT8yVdGhP9r3LefRxOIkU

  36. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 12:58 pm 

    Proud “aryans” in Halle, Germany

    https://i.redd.it/q88sn2na0hb31.png

  37. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 2:55 pm 

    Proud Aryan Uebermensch from East-Germany:

    https://images.app.goo.gl/HxD1Se3HnCXyaik4A

    Half a century moonlandings: German engineering genius, exploited as slave labor by the Great Satan, the world’s smear bunnies and hypocrits.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/07/19/world/science-health-world/wernher-von-braun-apollo-hero-rocket-builder-hitler-father/#.XTNw9sqxWfA

    But now it is your turn to be on the receiving end of history. All self-inflicted. Karma is a bitch.

  38. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 3:01 pm 

    BBC News: Moscow protest: Thousands demand fair elections

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49057803

    You will never see fair elections with a billionaire elite like Putin running things..

  39. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 3:02 pm 

    Clogg

    That link is moldy over 50 years old..

    Now Germany is a third world zoo..

    LOL

  40. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 3:04 pm 

    We’re almost there:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7268059/Iranian-Revolutionary-Guard-commandos-drop-helicopter-hijack-British-tanker.html

    “Hunt warns Iran to ‘reverse illegal seizure’ of British ship as Tehran releases dramatic footage of moment balaclava-clad commandos abseiled from helicopter and hijacked the tanker in ‘tit-for-tat’ strike”

    The war that will bring down Anglo-Zionism. The war that will show that navies in the 21st century are fake news. The war that will destroy Middle Eastern oil and gas infrastructure. The war that will drive Europe into the arms of Russia. The war that will bring renewable energy to victory via €300,- oil. The war that will trigger CW2. The war that will terminate empire.

  41. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 3:07 pm 

    “Now Germany is a third world zoo..”

    Only parts of Berlin.

    Germany and the rest of Europe is not nearly as much as a “third world zoo” as the Great Satan.

    You won the race to the bottom, pall, meaning you lost geopolitically.LOL

    Now do us a favor and attack Iran.

  42. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 3:44 pm 

    Clogg

    No comment on the epic fail of Germany’s renewable production?

    LOL The biggest waste of tax payer money in world history!

    LOL

  43. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 3:46 pm 

    Clogg

    Don’t we will make sure Europe collapses into civil war 3..And then we will put our foot on your throat (again)..

    LOL

  44. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 5:36 pm 

    “And then we will put our foot on your throat (again)..
    LOL”

    When empire dave said “we kicked your ass”, he became my deadly enemy, after years of relatively cordial debate.

    I have absolutely no illussions about most Americans. Absolutely the scum of the earth. Murderous, lying, sadistic trash. Fortunately the geopolitical constellation is such that the US+UK are totally isolated and are facing the rest of the world, where everybody knows that Vietnam has shown that Americans can only take 40,000 casualties before they cry for their mummy. And today they are even more gay snowflakes than in the seventies. And then the country is teetering on the brink of CW2:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/cw2-brewing/

    Your strategic situation is completely hopeless.

    Let the fun begin!

    Eurasia-Anglosphere

    The war to end all wars!

    (well for a century or so)

    LOL, Iran rubs it in:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7268059/Iranian-Revolutionary-Guard-commandos-drop-helicopter-hijack-British-tanker.html

    “Hunt warns Iran to ‘reverse illegal seizure’ of British ship as Tehran releases dramatic footage of moment balaclava-clad commandos abseiled from helicopter and hijacked the tanker in ‘tit-for-tat’ strike”

    You have to give it to Bolton, he maneuvered the British into a fantastic mess, namely into a proxy war against Russia and China. The whole world is keen to see how British surface vessels will match against Iranian hypersonic missiles.

    Remember the HMS Sheffield?

    https://historylists.org/other/list-of-6-british-ships-sunk-during-the-falklands-war.html

    That was against f* Argentina and eighties French missile technology. And the UK would have lost if the Argentines had acquired additional Exocet missiles.

    But this is fourty years later. We’re talking hypersonic missiles and this time supply will be unlimited. Iran has all the cards and US useful idiot UK has exactly none.

  45. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 5:46 pm 

    Iran fallout:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49059700

    “British Airways flights to Cairo cancelled”

  46. Cloggie on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 5:51 pm 

    Anti-Trump leak has surfaced:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7268519/STEVEN-EDGINTON-19-journalist-exposed-memos-UKs-man-Washington.html

    “Why I helped expose the British ambassador’s cables: Journalist, 19, behind Trump scoop comes forward to reveal his motivation and fears he is being targeted by security services”

    As a 19-year-old freelance journalist with a passion for politics, I was looking for a big project through which to develop my career.

    He correctly should fear the UK secret service, that could learn a thing or two from the Russians about how to deal with traitors.

  47. Davy on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 6:19 pm 

    “When empire dave said “we kicked your ass”, he became my deadly enemy, after years of relatively cordial debate.”

    cordial debate?? You call hate, anger and resentment on a daily basis with messages of death, civil war and destruction, cordial? You are one fucked up dude, cloggo. I have every reason to despise you. You are a rotten dishonest person that wants everything around me destroyed.

  48. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 6:55 pm 

    20 thousand people are demonstrating in Moscow right now

    https://i.redd.it/pxhz79dsigb31.jpg

    Take back what is yours! Russian Revolution 2.0 loading….

  49. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 6:58 pm 

    Clogg we beat your region into the ground in WW2..And that is why our economy boomed right after for 40 years..

    And history always repeats..

    Poor ugly and trashy European whites..They are the low brow white people..

  50. Davy on Sat, 20th Jul 2019 7:35 pm 

    Oops, sorry for losing my shit again everyone. That’s what happens when your filled with hate, anger and resentment like I am. You lose your shit. A lot.

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