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A month into his presidency, Donald Trump lamented that the US no longer wins wars as it once did.

“When I was young, in high school and college, everybody used to say we never lost a war,” Trump told a group of US governors last February. “Now, we never win a war.”

Dominic Tierney, a professor at Swarthmore College and the author of multiple books about how America wages war, may know the reason why.

He believes the US can still successfully fight the wars of yesteryear — World War-style conflicts — but hasn’t yet mastered how to win wars against insurgents, which are smaller fights against groups within countries. The problem is the US continues to involve itself in those kinds of fights.

“We’re still stuck in this view that war is like the Super Bowl: We meet on the field, both sides have uniforms, we score points, someone wins, and when the game ends you go home,” he told me. “That’s not what war is like now.”

The US military is currently mired in conflicts in countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. It’s hard to see any end in sight — especially an end where the United States is the victor, however that’s defined.

A lightly edited transcript of our conversation follows.

Alex Ward

During his first year in office, Trump got the US more deeply involved in wars, with the goal of defeating terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Somalia. But has this put the US on course to end these fights?

Dominic Tierney

Victory may be asking a lot.

Since 1945, the United States has very rarely achieved meaningful victory. The United States has fought five major wars — Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan — and only the Gulf War in 1991 can really be classified as a clear success.

There are reasons for that, primarily the shift in the nature of war to civil conflicts, where the United States has struggled. Trump himself recognized this: He said on the campaign trail numerous times that we used to win wars and we don’t win anymore. And he has promised to turn the page on this era of defeat and said that we were going to get sick and tired of winning.

But will he channel that observation into winning wars? I doubt it.

The nature of war continues to be these difficult internal conflicts in places like Afghanistan, where the United States has struggled long before Trump ever dreamed of running for president.

Alex Ward

So what constitutes victory in war today, and has that changed from the past?

Dominic Tierney

The famous war theorist Carl von Clausewitz argued that war is the continuation of politics by other means. So war is not just about blowing things up — it’s about achieving political goals.

The United States, up until 1945, won virtually all the major wars that it fought. The reason is those wars were overwhelmingly wars between countries. The US has always been very good at that.

But that kind of war has become the exception. If you look around the world today, about 90 percent of wars are civil wars. These are complex insurgencies, sometimes involving different rebel groups, where the government faces a crisis of legitimacy.

The US has found, for various reasons, that it’s far more difficult to achieve its goals in these cases. The three longest wars in US history are Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan — all from recent decades, all these complex types of civil wars.

Alex Ward

On its face, this seems to be a paradox: The US can win on the battlefield against a major military force, but we can’t seem to win these smaller wars.

Dominic Tierney

Yes. And even more surprising: It’s when the US became a superpower and created the best-trained, strongest military the world has ever seen, around 1945, that the US stopped winning wars.

The answer to the puzzle is that American power turned out to be a double-edged sword.

The US was so powerful after World War II, especially after the Soviet Union disappeared, that Washington was tempted to intervene in distant conflicts around the world in places like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

We ended up intervening in countries where we had little cultural understanding. To illustrate this, in 2006 — at the height of the Iraq War — there were 1,000 officials in the US embassy in Baghdad, but only six of them spoke Arabic.

In addition, the US military has failed to adapt to this new era of war. The US military has this playbook for success against countries: technology, big-unit warfare, and so on. And when we started fighting insurgents, it was natural that we would turn to that same playbook.

Alex Ward

So we might not have much cultural understanding of the places where we’re fighting, but we have greater technology and better fighting forces. Why can’t we overcome this obstacle?

Dominic Tierney

The reason, again, comes down to the difference between an interstate [more traditional] war and a counterinsurgency, or nation-building mission.

One difference is that we cannot easily see the enemy. In an interstate war, the enemy is wearing uniforms, we know where they are on a map. In a counterinsurgency they are hiding in the population.

Now, the US military is capable of hitting any target with pinpoint accuracy using the latest hardware. But what if we don’t know where the enemy is? A lot of that technology, which is really impressive, turns out to be irrelevant.

Alex Ward

It seems like we have two problems here. We haven’t corrected our way of thinking to deal with insurgencies or civil wars, and then we keep getting involved in those kinds of wars, despite the fact that we’re ill-prepared to deal with them.

Why do we keep falling into this trap?

Dominic Tierney

One answer is we basically believe in illusions — the idea that nation-building and counterinsurgency will be avoided.

Look at Iraq, where the United States believed it could topple Saddam Hussein and basically leave as quickly as possible. We would overthrow the tyrant and then the Iraqi people would be free to create their own democracy. That was based on massive overconfidence about what would happen after Hussein fell.

So why do we go to war if we hate counterinsurgency and we struggle at it? The reason is the White House convinces itself it doesn’t need to stabilize or help rebuild a country after a war. But it’s not just the Bush administration — think of the Obama administration too.

Barack Obama was a very thoughtful president and talked at length about his foreign policy thinking. At the heart of the Obama doctrine was “no more Iraq War.” And yet he basically made the same mistake in Libya, where there was very little planning for what would occur after Muammar Qaddafi was overthrown in 2011. In fact, Obama went on the record saying that the Libya intervention was his worst mistake a president.

Alex Ward

So if it really is a bunch of wishful illusions and incorrect assumptions, how do we avoid that? We have tons of evidence that things don’t go our way when we get involved in these kinds of wars. We don’t seem to learn from our mistakes.

Dominic Tierney

We don’t learn very well from history. Presidents convince themselves that the next time will be different.

The lesson Obama took from Iraq was not to allow any US ground forces to get involved in nation-building. Since Obama was willing to support regime change, the end result was going to be the overthrow of Qaddafi with no real plan to stabilize Libya.

If a thoughtful president like Obama — who was very cognizant of the errors of Iraq — can do that, it suggests that any president would be capable of doing that.

Alex Ward

It seems like one of the problems is that we’re involving ourselves in these wars with little preparation. How do we solve that?

Dominic Tierney

We need better language training, cultural training, more resources for special forces — and that would mean less money spent on nuclear attack submarines, for example.

Second, once we improve America’s ability for stabilization missions, we deploy the US military with greater care and fight fewer wars. That means when we do fight, we have a better plan to win the peace.

Alex Ward

But then there’s another problem: Sometimes groups like ISIS arise, and US leaders and many Americans want the military to take them out. So when the president is faced with the option to target a group like ISIS with airpower, some would argue that it’s better, politically, to do that.

Dominic Tierney

The US doesn’t think several moves ahead. The US military is good at taking out bad guys. But the removal of the bad guy creates a power vacuum, and that power vacuum is filled by somebody else.

In Afghanistan, we created disorder and then the Taliban returned — the power vacuum there was also filled by ISIS. And in Iraq, the vacuum was filled by militant groups, most notably al-Qaeda in Iraq. In Libya, the vacuum was filled by a complicated range of militant groups.

The mood in the US is: “We just killed ISIS, let’s go home and close the book on the ISIS war.” Well, there’s more to the story.

Alex Ward

The Trump administration says it will pay less attention to defeating terrorists and will now focus more on battling back growing Chinese and Russian power.

That new strategic focus means we’ll change the kinds of weapons we buy and the kind of training our troops do. But I don’t see the US stopping its fight against terrorism. Does this preparation for a different style of war — while still fighting another — put the US in an awkward position?

Dominic Tierney

I think it does.

There is a desire to shift from difficult nation-building missions toward countering great-power challengers like Russia and especially China. But this isn’t very new. The Obama administration wanted to pivot to Asia and the China challenge. And then what happened? We ended up being engaged against ISIS.

I tend to think that the pivot to China is sort of like Waiting for Godot — it never arrives. And I think the United States is going to get drawn back into these civil wars and these kinds of messy conflicts, particularly in the broader Middle East. The odds of conflict between the US and China are very low; the odds of the US engaging in another civil war in the next five years are extremely high.

Alex Ward

Based on this conversation, victory in war seems to be how we define it, or, rather, will it to be. The US sets its victory goals low, but we don’t even meet those lower goals. Why can’t we get over this hump?

Dominic Tierney

We’re still stuck in this view that war is like the Super Bowl: We meet on the field, both sides have uniforms, we score points, someone wins, and when the game ends you go home. That’s not what war is like now. Now there are tons of civilians on the field, the enemy team doesn’t wear a uniform, and the game never ends. We need to know there’s no neat ending.

The costs of this problem have been so catastrophic for the United States, in the form of thousands of military lives and billions of dollars spent. It’s time we fundamentally rethink our vision of what war is.

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363 Comments on "America doesn’t win wars anymore"

  1. CloggedDavy on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 4:43 pm 

    Oh my, we’re all scared to death over this , CloggedDavy-LOL.

    Another fake orange haired fat boy article intended to appease the deplorable base (i.e. CloggedDavy).

    What a group of clueless losers.

  2. Rick on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 4:56 pm 

    “Gaia”, I am deist.

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  5. Davy Sock Fraud on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 6:12 pm 

    JuanP harassment on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 5:29 pm

  6. makati1 on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 6:20 pm 

    Juan, please refrain from stealing ID’s.

  7. Cloggie on Thu, 8th Aug 2019 10:12 pm 

    “The expansion of long-distance transmission lines is seen as one of the greatest obstacles to Germany reaching its target of increasing the share of renewables in power consumption to 65 percent by 2030. Three high-voltage power lines, the A-Nord, SuedLink and SuedOstLink, are already planned or under construction to transport wind energy from Germany’s north to the country’s industrial heartlands in the south and west.”

    The renewable energy transition will come in leaps and bounds, but it will come. Because there is no acceptable alternative. The developing climate scare is entirely playing into its hands.

  8. Cloggie on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 1:43 am 

    Revolution in the UK?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7339173/ROBERT-HARDMAN-asks-happen-Corbyn-took-cab-tell-Queen-hes-taking-over.html

    “As John McDonnell proposes a revolutionary coup against Boris Johnson, ROBERT HARDMAN asks: What would happen if Jeremy Corbyn took a cab to see the Queen to tell her he’s taking over?”

    A vote of no confidence is a very realistic prospect, if BoJo will attempt to take the UK out of the EU without a deal and park the country in American geopolitical orbit, which is what his intention is, in line with the wishes of the majority of the older, white, tax-paying part of the population and listen to Vera Lynn records till kingdom comes and read propaganda books like these:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/books/article-7338193/The-hero-sent-hell.html

    “The hero who sent himself to hell: Author reveals how a Polish soldier agreed to be captured by the Germans and sent to Auschwitz as the ‘eyes and ears’ of the resistance”

  9. I AM THE MOB on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 5:31 am 

    Rеfugееs integrating ‘faster than expected’ into Germany’s labour market

    https://www.thelocal.de/20190806/refugees-are-integrating-faster-than-expected-into-germanys-labour-market

    Now its baby time!

    HAHA!

  10. Cloggie on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 6:43 am 

    “Rеfugееs integrating ‘faster than expected’ into Germany’s labour market”

    Unfortunately for I AM THE KIKE, that only applies to these 1.5 million 2015 invaders. Meanwhile the borders are hermetically closed, thanks to Merkel and “2015” we have the AfD and a white nationalist government in Italy.ROFl

    And thank god, still no wall in the US, so the Anglos are going to “win” the race to the bottom —> CW2. Europe saved, US smoldering pile of ruble. Exit Angllo-Zionism.

  11. Robert Inget on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 10:49 am 

    Trump Says He’s Received ‘Beautiful’ Letter From North Korea’s Kim

    President Trump on Friday said he received a “beautiful” letter from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un as the country continues to test ballistic missiles, alarming U.S. allies in the region.

    Trump told reporters as he left the White House for a fundraiser in the Hamptons that the two men could meet again in the future to discuss denuclearization.

    Trump and Kim have held three face-to-face meetings that have yet to yield concrete plan to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula.

    North Korea has in recent weeks launched several test missiles, which watchdogs say violates a United Nations treaty.

    Trump has downplayed the tests, insisting he has a strong personal relationship with Kim.

    (comments?)

  12. Davy on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 10:52 am 

    So bob, sounds like you want hostilities, you know because that will make Trump look bad. That seems to be all you care about. Let have the US look bad and especially Trump is you MO.

  13. Duncan Idaho on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 10:52 am 

    (comments?)
    The Fat Boy has been bankrupt 6 times.
    Kim is having a simple time conning the dude.

  14. fmr-paultard AKA Davy ID Theft on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 1:19 pm 

    Davy on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 10:52 am

    Most obvious due to nonsense.

  15. Cloggie on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 3:14 pm 

    Why am I not surprised?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7341765/Donald-Trump-Bill-Clinton-sex-Jeffrey-Epstein-exposed-Virginia-Roberts-Ghislaine-Maxwell-court-documents-unsealed.html

    Donald Trump and Bill Clinton never had sex with any of Jeffrey Epstein’s girls says former sex slave, who reveals she met Al Gore through Ghislaine Maxwell in unsealed docs”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339133/Jeffrey-Epstein-wanted-impregnate-sex-slave-18-raise-child-Ghislaine-Maxwell.html

    “Jeffrey Epstein ‘wanted to impregnate sex slave, 18, and raise their child with Ghislaine Maxwell, but teen was able to escape after she was flown to Asia to pick up underage girl for pedophile’”

    Via our resident kosher I AM THE MOB we have more than enough insight in how this tribe operates.

    Oopsie, more Windsor rumblings:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7342169/Prince-Andrew-exposed-Teen-sex-slave-alleges-pair-intimate-Ghislaine-Maxwells-London-home.html

    “Prince Andrew named in unsealed Epstein documents: ‘Sex slave’, then 17, alleges she was intimate with royal at Ghislaine Maxwell’s London home while second young woman claims she was groped by prince at paedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s house”

    Would a nice sight, this time Andrew in handcuffs rather than his teen victims.

  16. Cloggie on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 3:22 pm 

    Priceless! What’s the name again of the mayor of Londinistan?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7340663/Multi-million-pound-Holocaust-memorial-outside-Parliament-set-rejected-amid-complaints.html

    “Multi-million pound Holocaust memorial outside Parliament is set to be rejected amid complaints it would spoil the view just months after the government pledged a further £25m to the project”

    Let’s first find out if the event happened in the first place, shall we?

    We all know what the first prerequisite is of true justice:

    An independent judge.

  17. Cloggie on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 4:09 pm 

    Salvini calls for new elections in Italy, because he knows he will gain massively, even 40%, which in the Italian context could mean an absolute majority:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-02/salvini-s-league-continues-to-climb-in-poll-edging-close-to-40

    “Salvini’s League Continues to Climb in Poll, Edging Close to 40%”

    Personally I hope he doesn’t and will need Berlusconi to form a government, who is steictly pro-EU:

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/908338/Berlusconi-Italy-election-2018-EU-army-Brussels-Berlusconi-nuevo-look

    “EU ARMY: Berlusconi backs ‘common defence’ to make Europe a ‘world power’”

    Salvini, Berlusconi and Putin are big buddies. Expect large Italian pressure to drop EU anti-Russian sanctions.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/k7fd8FvfeTYgNhkW9

    https://images.app.goo.gl/NJeyLoGx9o9Tkj5s7

  18. Cloggie on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 4:31 pm 

    Watching BBC News… the majority of BBC talking heads are non-whites. England maybe majority white, but the upper layers of society are globalist and BoJo/Farage will only increase the speed of globalisation.

    It is high time for us continental Europeans to say goodbye to our Anglo friends and make a complete U-turn, exploiting Brexit to the hilt.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/09/how-matteo-salvini-pulled-italy-to-the-far-right

    “How Matteo Salvini pulled Italy to the far right”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-afd/german-far-right-party-ahead-in-east-before-regional-votes-idUSKCN1UU06O

    “German far-right party ahead in east before regional votes”

  19. I AM THE MOB on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 8:55 pm 

    Unite the Right participant!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBgY2OoXoAElr61.png

    that’s not how you wear a bike helmet

  20. makati1 on Fri, 9th Aug 2019 11:08 pm 

    I’m glad I am not paying for this: “Officially, the Department of Defense (DoD) maintains 4,775 “sites,” spread across all 50 states, eight U.S. territories, and 45 foreign countries. A total of 514 of these outposts are located overseas, according to the Pentagon’s worldwide property portfolio. Just to start down a long list, these include bases on the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia, in Djibouti on the Horn of Africa, as well as in Peru and Portugal, the United Arab Emirates, and the United Kingdom. But the most recent version of that portfolio, issued in early 2018 and known as the Base Structure Report (BSR), doesn’t include any mention of al-Tanf. Or, for that matter, any other base in Syria. Or Iraq. Or Afghanistan. Or Niger. Or Tunisia. Or Cameroon. Or Somalia. Or any number of locales where such military outposts are known to exist and even, unlike in Syria, to be expanding.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-empire-reality-greater-united-states/5686035

    The only tax I pay in the US is when I visit and buy something. The only tax I pay here in the Philippines is a VAT tax, again on those things I buy. Free from Federal, State, Local, Real estate, etc. taxes finally!

  21. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 5:12 am 

    The U.S. Needs More Nukes
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/opinion/russia-nuclear-treaty-inf.html

    WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT!

    Don’t make us George Bush this button, over nothing..

  22. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 6:05 am 

    The English Lech Walesa is having a rough time in prison:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7343717/Jailed-EDL-founder-Tommy-Robinson-solitary-confinement-no-contact-inmates.html

    “Jailed EDL founder Tommy Robinson is ‘in solitary confinement at Belmarsh amid fears Muslim prison gangs will target him’ after losing 40lbs ‘through starvation’ during first stint in prison”

    But remember folks, in times of change, the prisons of the outgoing power (in this case the globalists) are the antichambres of the corridors of power of the future.

    https://tinyurl.com/y634bpsc

  23. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 6:10 am 

    The U.S. Needs More Nukes

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/09/opinion/russia-nuclear-treaty-inf.html

    The Jews such as the author of the article Bret Stephens…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Stephens

    …won’t give up on their US tax farm without a fight.

    WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT!

    Probably not.

    It’s going to hurt a little before the sun sets for ever over your tribe.

    I mean, who still talks about that other tribe of knuckelheads from the depth of Eurasia, the Huns?

    See?

    Nobody!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

  24. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 6:36 am 

    “Don’t sit on that red button, Sajid!”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7343135/Embarrassment-Sajid-Javid-visited-National-Grid-just-hours-huge-power-cut.html

    “Are you sure you didn’t touch anyhting, Chancellor? Sajid Javid visited the National Grid just hours before a huge power cut”

    To be fair to Sajid, the grid wasn’t exactly invented in his native Pakistan. Cultural thingy.

    Development of the global electricity grid:

    https://edisontechcenter.org/HistElectPowTrans.html

    1879 – US
    1882 – Germany
    1884 – Britain
    1884 – Italy
    1893 – Sweden

    …and of course, as of 1891, when the Jewish Philips family came to town, my hometown Eindhoven in Holland, provided the world with the most light bulbs, not to be confused with tulip bulbs:

    https://www.philips.com/content/corporate/en_AA/about/company/our-heritage.html/

    #WhereWouldWeBeWithoutEindhoven?

    In Holland, Eindhoven for that reason is known as the Lichtstad (light town):

    https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eindhoven

    https://www.bestemminginbeeld.nl/bibspotter/2011/11/20/cfb85/original.jpg

    Outside the Netherlands, that title is attributed to Paris, for reasons unknown.

  25. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 7:09 am 

    ‘Never again is now.’ Jewish leaders protest ICE in Seattle

    https://www.kuow.org/stories/hundreds-protest-ice-in-seattle-never-again-is-now

  26. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 7:21 am 

    “‘Never again is now.’ Jewish leaders protest ICE in Seattle”

    Israel is doing exactly the same thing as Trump-USA:

    https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/israeli-cabinet-approves-detention-centre-for-illegal-immigrants-1.19912

    “Israeli cabinet approves detention centre for illegal immigrants”

    Let these Seattle Jews mind their own business and protest Israel (they won’t: one standard for the Jews and one for everybody else).

  27. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 7:25 am 

    Allowing unlimited immigration means losing your country. Go ask American Indians:

    https://www.amazon.com/American-Indian-Holocaust-Survival-Civilization/dp/080612220X

    But floppie’s tribe wants us to lose our country.

    Immigration is THE #1 political issue in our times and it will change the political landscape and the old libtard order/US empire (change as in: evaporate).

  28. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 8:45 am 

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/rude-awakening/

    Four more years!

  29. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 9:06 am 

    Omen for his tribe:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7344181/Billionaire-Jeffrey-Epstein-dies-suicide-inside-Manhattan-jail-cell.html

    “Billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, 66, kills himself in his Manhattan jail cell, 24 hours after files in his case were unsealed and two weeks after he was placed on suicide watch ahead of his sex trafficking trial”

    The great Zionist dream of total power, of owning everything, not just billions, but even the bodies and souls of pretty under-aged white girls, that dream, or white nightmare rather, is coming to an end.

    The International Jew just hanged himself.
    Good-riddance to him.

    Just like the Jew who brought Putin to power, in the expectation he would do the bidding of The Tribe:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boris-berezovsky-died-in-a-bathroom-locked-from-the-inside-the-final-hours-of-a-russian-oligarch-8547301.html

    He didn’t.

    Didn’t I AM THE MOB repeatedly claimed he was ready to “die for his ideals”?

    What’s keeping you?

    You see, it’s over.
    Do yourself (and us) a favor… and go quietly in the night.

  30. Robert Inget on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 9:16 am 

    O.T. O.T.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/10/jeffrey-epstein-the-wealthy-financier-accused-of-child-sex-trafficking-commits-suicide-nbc-citing-sources.html

    BOTH Left and Right conspiracy theorists will picnic over this highly volatile breaking news story.

    Epstein was on suicide watch.
    Dozens of powerful politicos of Both parties wanted this
    cretin dead.

    So, now we MAY have a new scandal; ‘Who killed the child molester?’

  31. Davy on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 9:24 am 

    “Dozens of powerful politicos of Both parties wanted this cretin dead.”

    Yea, but it is the politically correct incorrect rabid liberal finger pointers who are now going to have to accept the fact they are the same trash they make the other side out to be. Stinking hypocritical liberal trash needs a good thrashing as if the whole Russia gate fiasco was not enough. This shit is amazing.

  32. Duncan Idaho on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 9:28 am 

    Interesting Epstein observation:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/08/epstein-suicided.html

  33. Duncan Idaho on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 9:39 am 

    None of the still-hospitalized survivors of the El Paso mass shooting wanted to meet with Trump during his visit to the city

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/None-of-the-8-still-hospitalized-survivors-of-the-14290178.php

    Lucky Trump is a psychopath, or this could off hurt him.

  34. Robert Inget on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 9:55 am 

    OK, I see ‘C’ posted Epstein story with a typical, for him, hate twist.
    Killing Jews has lost some glamor lately since Trump’s
    ONLY real friends, primary advisors, lawyers, family members,
    business partners, head of Israel, largest contributor, are all Fascist Jews.

    Trump’s wives, but Not miscreant mistresses), are non Jewish immigrants.

    All This MUST present a huge dilemma for his white ‘Cristian base’.

    Life is so complicated. Top Communist dictator Joseph Stalin
    was a famous anti Semite. Stalin may have killed off more Soviet Jews (in more subtile ways) than Hitler.

    It appears I need to amend the last line of my former post.
    ‘Who killed the Jew?’ ‘Who cares?’.

  35. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 10:15 am 

    Epstein is dead..That was dumb..Trump would have likely pardoned him with honors..

    Just read the lawsuit about Trump and Epstein back in 2016..From a girl who said they brutally raped her at age 13..Very graphic..

  36. Davy on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 10:47 am 

    “Just read the lawsuit about Trump and Epstein back in 2016..From a girl who said they brutally raped her at age 13..Very graphic..”

    MOB, that was Clinton not trump, dumbfuck

  37. Davy on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 10:54 am 

    Oops, sorry for losing my shit again everyone.

  38. Davy on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 11:27 am 

    Your up a little late today juanpee troll. You missed out on the whole morning with your I’d theft and sock nonsense. Did you get hammered out of your mind last night juanpee? Lol, chronic untreated depression leads to self medication.

  39. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 11:52 am 

    “The great replacement”

    https://i.redd.it/6gxddfp5xlf31.jpg

  40. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 11:54 am 

    Davy

    • the original suit, Katie Johnson v. Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, filed in California in April 2016

    • Jane Doe v. Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, filed in New York in June 2016

    • the second Jane Doe v. Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, filed in New York at the end of September 2016

    http://thememoryhole2.org/blog/doe-v-trump

  41. Davy on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 12:37 pm 

    http://thememoryhole2.org/blog/doe-v-trump

    “Russ Kick is good at saving stuff that the government wants hidden.”
    –Rachel Maddow

    fake news dumb fuck. Anybody Rachel is talking about is compromised. Much of what you puke here MOBster is likewise shit.

  42. I AM THE MOB on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 12:42 pm 

    Davy

    You aren’t refuting the evidence..You are just trying to slander the messenger..Arguments are based on their merits..

    I know everything you don’t like is fake news. And everyone from Zerohedge is real news.

    I don’t think you have the cognitive ability to make that judgement based on your posting history.

  43. Davy on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 12:51 pm 

    “You aren’t refuting the evidence..You are just trying to slander the messenger..Arguments are based on their merits..”

    dumb fuck, the fake facts speak for themselves with all the hallmarks of the fake news left anything but trump trap.

  44. Cloggie on Sat, 10th Aug 2019 1:03 pm 

    “The great replacement”

    https://i.redd.it/6gxddfp5xlf31.jpg

    That picture tells folks in Eurasia that the US will become just as much as a “super-power” as, say Brasil.

    Floppie’s tribe solved a lot of problems for Eurasia:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOMsCUeZ6rw

    White despair in America will grow to the tune that white Americans will greet Greater European soldiers, all 640 million of them, as true liberators!

    No need to bomb American cities, just stand by and separate the hotheads and rake in 120 million or so “cowboys”…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVzQSEIh-gM

    … who can provide great services in helping to contain China, “after the break”.

    And once a large part of America falls into our European hands (again), England will automatically morph back into the “King Edward 1”-mode:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Expulsion

  45. Cloggie on Sun, 11th Aug 2019 12:34 am 

    “Clinton body count”

    Trump suggest the Clinton’s could be involved into the death of Epstein:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7345167/President-Trump-retweets-conspiracy-theories-Clintons-involved-Jeffrey-Epsteins-suicide.html

    “Trump retweets conspiracy theory saying the Clintons were involved in Jeffrey Epstein’s death – and that Bill visited the pedophile’s Caribbean island – but does not make a statement about the suicide of his one-time friend”

  46. Cloggie on Sun, 11th Aug 2019 2:10 am 

    Now even the British queen is in despair with her own “political class”:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7345259/Queen-tells-aides-disappointment-current-political-class.html

    “Queen’s fury at her politicians: ‘Dismayed’ monarch tells aides of her ‘disappointment in the current political class’ and their ‘inability to govern correctly’ amid Brexit turmoil”

    BoJo has promised to make Britain the “Greatest Country on Earth”. That’s going to take a while. His first concern should be to keep his country together, because you can’t have a “Greatest Country” if you have no country in the first place.

    Perhaps he will be out of a job after October 31, for instance because the queen sacked him, after a vote of no-confidence.

    CNN, somewhat surprisingly (to me) adopts a skeptical tone regarding the Brexit farce and it’s quiet sympathy is apparently with the Europeans:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/10/europe/europe-isnt-scared-of-boris-johnson-analysis-intl-gbr/index.html

    “Europe isn’t that scared of Boris Johnson”

    It appears that CNN still believes in the West and would prefer to keep its empire together, rather than take its losses and at least make Britain safe for globalism.

  47. Cloggie on Sun, 11th Aug 2019 3:01 am 

    Like 100 years ago, it is again Italy that responds first to the growing “communist threat”, this time not of the Soviet but of the US variety, that pushes for mass immigration from the third world, open borders and One World under command of Washington.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/matteo-salvini-italy-elections-far-right-europe-immigrants-northern-league-populism-a9051156.html

    “How Matteo Salvini is manufacturing a political crisis to push Europe down a dangerous far-right path”

    “Dangerous” for who? Well, for Anglo-Zionism of course, including their “Independent” mouth-piece.

    https://thesaker.is/anglozionist-short-primer-for-the-newcomers/

    Expect other European countries to follow: Germany/AfD, France/Front National. Eastern Europe, including Russia already is white nationalist.

    But in western Europe it is Italy that is clearly leading and defecting from empire and switching to Moscow, that is no longer seen as a threat, like 100 years ago, but as a white beacon of hope.

    No wonder that the Dutchman Pim Fortuyn, who could have been the first populist government leader in the western world as early as 2002, 14 years before Trump, wanted to be buried in Italy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPy2_rG6mdQ

    (I made a similar video, last year ago, when I made a detour to pay my last respect to him, on my way from Venice to Romania)

    The murder, carried out by a green-leftist Volkert van der Graaf, was no doubt supported by some western intelligence agency:

    https://www.spreekbuis.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/telegraaf.jpg

    Dutch deplorables tried to set the houses of parliament on fire that night, but unfortunately were stopped before major damage was caused.

    The funeral of Fortuyn was a huge national event:

    https://tinyurl.com/y62c5v7q

    In 2002 Holland stopped being one of the most liberal countries.

  48. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 11th Aug 2019 5:18 am 

    Clogg

    Why don’t you pull up the future world population data from the UN on Wiki. So you can see if the great replacement is likely to happen. Oh wait, its been removed. I guess white genocide won’t be televised!

    HAHAH!

  49. Cloggie on Sun, 11th Aug 2019 5:43 am 

    Why don’t you pull up the future world population data from the UN on Wiki. So you can see if the great replacement is likely to happen. Oh wait, its been removed. I guess white genocide won’t be televised!

    HAHAH!

    The only group that runs a serious risk of being genocided would be yours, in that America of yours. I mean, your underlings may be a little slow intellectually, but they have already proven with the Indians that they don’t hesitate to pull the trigger. Don’t cry victory too early.

    I mean, 1/8 of the Kristallnacht, carried out by one man, respect!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/us/active-shooter-pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting.html

    Europe is currently being sealed off. In fact you could accuse Merkel of involuntary white nationalist behavior in that she sinned against the “boiled frog principle”: mass immigration yes, but not at a too high a pace, otherwise the deplorables could wake up. And that is what happened in 2015. The Anglo-Zionist big-whigs were a little slow in understanding what they had just done:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/22/hillary-clinton-europe-must-curb-immigration-stop-populists-trump-brexit

    Too late!!!

    The AfD is now a fact and probably will win in East-Germany next month, after the FN won already earlier this year in France and FvD in Holland. Expect Salvini to win next month in Italy. Putin, as you already know, won in Russia in 2000.

    And now we have a China that has placed its bets on Eurasia with its trillions-project New Silk Road.

    And Australia is a nice, defenseless prey for the Red Dragon. And Britain is no longer available to sabotage Europe from within.

    Since 1933, Anglos and Soviets quietly teamed up to destroy Europe.

    I leave it to you as an exercise to figure out who will be teaming up against who in a couple of years time in WW3+CW2.

    2000 million Eurasians against 330+65+30+30=465 million Anglos (many of them coloreds). Now it is your turn for some XXL suffering, after inflicting endless suffering on Eurasia over the past century.

    Happy dying!

  50. I AM THE MOB on Sun, 11th Aug 2019 5:43 am 

    Moscow protests right now!

    https://i.redd.it/vxmuexosamf31.jpg

    Take back what is yours! Down with Vlad the bad!

    HAHA!

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