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Why The Coming Oil Crunch Will Shock The World

General Ideas

My years working in corporate strategy taught me that every strategic framework, no matter how complex (some I worked on were hundreds of pages long), boils down to just two things:

  1. Where do you want to go? (Vision)
  2. How are you going to get there? (Resources)

Vision is the easier one by far. You just dream up a grand idea about where you want the company to be at some target future date, Yes, there’s work in assuring that everybody on the management team truly shares and believes in the vision, but that’s a pretty stratightforward sales job for the CEO.

By the way, this same process applies at the individual level, too, for anyone who wants to achieve a major goal by some point in the future. The easy part of the strategy is deciding you want to be thinner, healthier, richer, or more famous.

But the much harder part, for companies and individuals alike, is figuring out ‘How to get there’. There are always fewer resources than one would prefer.

Corporate strategists always wish for more employees to implement the vision, with better training with better skills. Budgets and useful data are always scarcer than desired, as well.

Similar constraints apply to us individuals. Who couldn’t use more motivation, time and money to pursue their goals?

Put together, the right Vision coupled to a reasonably mapped set of Resources can deliver amazing results. Think of the Apollo Moon missions. You have to know where you’re going and how you’re going to get there to succeed. That’s pretty straightforward, right?

So, it should be little surprise that the opposite, a lack of Vision and/or Resources, leads to underperformance — and, eventually, decline. Think Kodak or Xerox. Or third-generation family wealth that has dwindled away to nothing. In a changing world, refusing to change with it is a losing strategy.

A great strategy aligns people’s interests and motivations with the available resources. More importantly, it provides a meaningful framework for action, one that gives a sense of purpose that will motivate everyone through difficult or trying times.

The grand goal of defeating the Nazis provided sufficient motivation for people to buy war bonds, scrimp on consumption, plant victory gardens, and go without nylon. A large part of our national resources were dedicated to the larger strategy of winning the war. Because of the strategy everyone shared, practically nobody complained of this repurposing as a ‘time of sacrifice’ or as an imposed burden.

Given the right framework and the means to achieve it, people will literally crawl through mud in freezing temperatures — and find it deeply satisfying. But given zero context or insufficient resources, people quickly become demoralized or rebellious (just observe how quickly most folks get royally pissed off at having to sit on the tarmac for a few extra minutes before their airplane takes off.)

Strategy matters. A lot.

A Nation Adrift, A World In Denial

Here’s why I’m harping so much on strategy: the US is operating without a viable one.

We neither have a compelling Vision of where we want to go, nor any sense of the Resources required to change with the many transitions underway around us.

The current ‘strategy’ (if we can be so generous as to call it that), is nothing more than “business-as-usual” (BAU).

The US is assuming it is always going to have more cars and trucks on the road this year than last year, more goods sold, a larger economy, more jobs, and the world’s most powerful military. That’s the BAU model. And it has largely worked for the past century.

But it can’t work going forward. And the longer we pursue it, the more of our future prosperity we ruin.

Why? Because the future of everything is dependent on energy. More specifically: net energy.

Having a powerful military consumes a tremendous annual quantity of energy. The US military eats up 100 million barrels of oil each year. By itself, America’s Department of Defense is the 34th largest consumer of oil in the world.

In total, the US consumes over 7 billion barrels of oil each year. And that represents only 37% of the nearly 100 quadrillion of BTUs of America’s annual energy consumption (the rest coming from natural gas, coal, and other sources). For comparisons sake, the rest of the world consumes another 450 quadrillion BTUs.

And world energy demand just keeps on insatiably growing year over year. The (notoriously conservative) EIA predicts it will jump by 28% over the next two decades.

Will our energy production be able to keep up? As I’ve been warning for years, it will be very challenged to do so — or, to do so at prices anywhere near as low as today’s.

Putting Our Plight Into Concrete Terms

Putting those staggering figures aside for a moment, let’s focus on one — just one! — of the crises ahead of us when it comes to our future energy needs.

The nations of the world have made the truly regrettable decision to build so much of their infrastructure using concrete reinforced with steel (re-bar, mesh, etc.). As I’ve explained in detail in previous articles, because the steel rusts over time, the concrete is busy being destroyed from the inside out — something we can detect easily enough by the cracks and spalling (sheets flaking off) so readily apparent on every bridge that’s more than a couple of decades old.

This has created a ticking time bomb. The world’s crumbling concrete buildings, bridges and roadways will have to be entirely replaced in just 40 to 100 years of their original construction dates. Where will all of the energy come from for that?

Also, note that China has poured more steel-reinforced concrete over just the past few years than the US did in the entire 20th century(!). All of this, too, will need to be replaced later this century.

Given that the sand required for all of the world’s *current* concrete projects is now in very short supply, where all the sand will come from for all that future concrete and cement work? Who ever thought we could run out of sand?

But such are the unpleasant surprises that crop up during the late stages when running an exponential economic paradigm (i.e., “Growth forever!”).

Fooling Ourselves

And it certainly doesn’t help that we’re remaining willfully blind to our situation.

It’s probably safe to say that the majority of the population in the US is confident that the “shale revolution” has assured America’s energy security for a long time to come. Heck, the governor of Texas recently tweeted this to the world:

This is wrong on so many levels.

Yes, Texas produces oil and natural gas. But the US is still a net oil importer to the tune of about 3 million barrels per day. The US is not independent with respect to oil. And it won’t be until it produces another 3 million barrels per day (and that’s making the generous assumption that consumption remains flat).

Further, to claim that the US will NEVER AGAIN depend on foreign oil is beyond bizarre. As I’ve been explaining for years, shale fields deplete and decline ferociously. Even the hyper-bullish EIA thinks that the shale fields will peak out in 2025 (I think earlier) and then go into permanent decline.

In my world, NEVER AGAIN is a lot farther out into the future than 2025. But Mr. Abbott has apparently ingested one too many petroleum sales pitches and received a terribly inaccurate impression about the true state of the US’ energy predicament.

Much more likely is that US shale production does not EVER exceed US consumption before peaking out. So it would be more accurate to tweet the US is now and will ALWAYS AND FOREVER be dependent on foreign oil.

Finally, even if the US were a net oil exporter (highly unlikely), we’d still be tied to the world price for oil. Should foreign cartels decided to limit production and spike the price, that would still effect the US. So we still wouldn’t be “independent” of their influence.

But sadly, Mr. Abbott speaks for the nation in that tweet. We’re “swimming in energy” and need not have any worries. The drum of our chest-thumping will scare them away.

In other word:, there’s no strategy beyond BAU.

There’s no acknowledgement of the challenges we face in the coming decades, of declining net energy per capita. Of greater competition between the developed and developing nations for the remaining BTUs.

There’s no compelling Vision to marshall the public towards that fits the realities of the future. We could, and should, be working on solutions for entering a “post-growth” era with grace. Or at a minimum, aggressively using today’s Resources to create a new energy infrastructure that plans for the inevitable decline of fossil fuels.

We could be doing so much better than this.

Getting Our Priorities Straight

What if we started by embracing these three facts?

  1. Fossil fuels have provided a supernova of surplus energy. One that has enabled literally everything and everyone you see around you to spring into existence.
  2. Fossil fuels are a very recent discovery for humans (barely 150-years-old). Half of our consumption of them has happened in just the last 25 years alone (due to exponentially increasing use).
  3. Fossil fuels will not last forever. They are finite and will someday peak and then decline, representing a once-in-a-species bonanza never to be repeated.

It’s beyond dispute that fossil fuels are 4/5ths of the current total global energy mix, that our use and dependence on them has grown exponentially over time, and that they are a non-rewable resource.

Among the fossil fuels, oil is, by far, the most critically-important to sustaining both our current level of technology and the human population. It’s how we move virtually everything from point A to point B and it’s a critical element for food production and distribution. It also remains absolutely essential to the manufacture and installation of alt-energy systems, like wind and solar.

Given the three facts above, it only makes sense that a responsible global society should have a credible and very publicly-stated energy strategy providing a road map for weaning itself from fossil fuels before they become prohibitively expensive/scarce.

But since we don’t have one, the alternative path we’re taking is to sleepwalk into the future with no plan for feeding 9 billion people or re-building a crumbled global infrastructure — let alone facing the additional challenges of running out of critical minerals, dealing with destroyed ecosystems, and being unable to field the necessary fuel and economic complexity to install a brand-new energy infrastructure measuring in the hundreds of quadrillions of BTUs. This BAU path will be marked by the three D’s: despair, demoralization, and death. (Is it any wonder that young people aren’t as inspired by BAU as their parents’ generation?)

So if instead we want a future that’s prosperous, regenerative and abundant, then we have to begin doing things very differently from BAU. And fast. (The best time to have started on this was decades ago.)

For example, if we decide we want electric transportation powered by wind and solar to be anything more than a meaningless tiny percentage of the total BTU mix, then we’re going to have to use a lot of fossil fuels to make that happen. It takes an enormous amount of fossil fuels to manufacture, install, maintain and repair/replace every single alt-energy component.

The question then becomes: Where do we want to be when that future arrives? If we want to have livable cities and towns with nearby greenbelts and an alt-energy infrastructure delivering clean energy sustainably forever into the future, then an enormous amount of planning and building is going to be required to get anywhere near close to that.

It all comes back to strategy. We need a compelling Vision of this future to inspire society, and then dedicate the appropriate Resources to make it happen.

With an appropriate energy strategy that matches reality, we can engineer a reasonably bright future. Without one, we’ll just pursue BAU until it literally destroys us as well as the ecosystems we depend on.

An New Energy Strategy

So here’s one way to go about doing that.

First, identify all the energy demands that absolutely have to happen just to maintain systemic integrity. The DoD has needs, the current fleets of emergency vehicles and school busses have needs, as does maintaining the existing stock of bridges, roads, and buildings. This exercise will reveal to all that simply maintaining ‘the way things are’ is extraordinarily energy-expensive. But it has to be done if we want to avoid economic collapse and massive joblessness. It also bears mentioning that the energy required to keep things going is energy that cannot be dedicated to building the new future. It’s a sunk-cost of prior decisions.

Second, make a credible list of energy needs for building the future we want. How many solar panels will that be? How many wind farms? How many miles of electrified train track? How many fully-electric vehicles will have to be built? How many charging stations with the nationwide road system need? What sorts of improvements and modifications to existing cities and towns will have to be made? This is the Vision. It answers the question Where are we going?

Of course, these sorts of new activities and building projects will be very energy expensive. If we want them to happen, then we have to consciously budget an appropriate amount of energy to accomplish the Vision.

Next, develop the very best possible estimate of total economically recoverable fossil fuels. Do this by finally measuring the full-cycle energy returned on energy invested (EROEI) for the remaining deposits. After all, we’re going to build out the future with the surplus energy extraced, not the gross (surplus = Total BTUs extracted – BTUs expended during extraction). This estimate will represent the total principal balance of our national energy bank account.

Last, calculate if there will be any energy left over. If so, save it for future generations. They’ll have their own sets of needs and desires that we can’t possible know today. (Sadly, I’m willing to wager that there won’t be any excess fossil energy to pass along).

A Sample Scenario

By way of example, suppose that the US undergoes a thorough, exhaustive, peer-reviewed and thoroughly debated examination of all known remaining fossil fuel resources – coal, natural gas and oil – using the very best and well-funded EROEI methodologies (yet to be developed, by the way). If we arbitrarily say that there are “100 units” of net energy left, we might discover this:

  • 25 units will be required to simply maintain the economic system so it doesn’t crash and can support the build-out of the new Vision for the future.
  • 60 units will be required to build that future out.
  • 15 units are not yet assigned. We might decide to leave those to future generations because that would be conscientious and prudent. Or perhaps we discover that they shouldn’t be burned because of the environmental impact.

Results such as these yield important insights.

First, we’d understand that if we accidentally burned through, say, 45 units blindly pursuing BAU, that would steal 25 units from building out the future we want.

Next, we’d realize better that our chances of manifesting the Vision are improved by limiting the amount we spend on maintenance. That insight would help to spur better decisions around conservation and efficiencies — such as not driving 6,000 pound private SUV/Truck vehicles to transport a single passenger to a desk job, or building homes with inadequate insulation to save a few thousand dollars on the front end of a 100-year capital investment.

Finally, we’d appreciate how our energy resources are finite and limited, and that how we choose to utilize them is quite possibly the single most important decision society can possibly make. Leaving the fate of our precious energy resources to the short-term interests of the markets and politicians would suddenly look too risky and nonsensical. We’d agitate for greater stewardship of them.

Were I in charge, the most well-funded institution in the land would be the Energy Institute. Our very best and brightest minds would be heavily incentivized to work there, applying their considerable gifts at science and mathematics towards matching our energy resources with our shared national goals. Gone would be the days of our top talent working for Wall Street and private money funds to move electronic abstractions of wealth hither and yon, skimming money while creating absolutely nothing of lasting value for their country or the world.

The Coming Oil Crunch Will Shock The World

However, we both know that no such strategic energy plan is forthcoming. There’s no strategy in the US (or Japan or Europe or China, or anywhere) that aligns finite resources with a well-defined, sustainable vision of the future.

BAU rules the roost.

It’s so powerfully embedded that Ford Motor Company recently decided to scrap selling sedans and small cars in America. It will only manufacture SUVs, trucks and commercial vehicles. You know when Ford will no longer make cars, you’ve got to have really chugged the shale oil Kool-Aid to make that decision.

Concrete is still poured with steel rebar every day. New homes and commercial buildings are built with expected lifetimes of only several decades and little attention to insulation. And the Federal Reserve focuses with manic precision on assuring that the credit markets continue to grow exponentially.

Each of these and a million other activities consumes finite, irreplaceable energy at the expense of a sustainable future. At some point, perhaps already passed us, that goal becomes no longer possible.

My point is we don’t know where that line in the sand is. We haven’t done the work, made the plans, and performed the necessary visioning to know one way or the other.

But what we can be sure of is that BAU is headed in the wrong direction and it has no long term future. One way or the other, endless growth on a finite planet will run its course and end. The only remaining question left to answer is: How painful will the reckoning be?

None of us know what will finally break the largest and most destructive credit cycle ever unleashed on the world (thanks central banks!) but we all know that The Everything Bubble has a bitter end. All self-destructive delusions do.

Our analysis concludes that the hard-stop for this credit bubble is resource-based. And I predict it will be a sudden spike in the price of oil that will be the pin that the central bank enabled bubbles absolutely cannot grow beyond.

They will encounter this pin and burst.

There will be plenty of time for tears and regrets then. But right now? You need to get ready.

In Part 2: How The Coming Oil Shock Will Impact Absolutely Everything we go deep into the data showing why a global oil supply shortfall is unavoidable by or before 2020. That’s less than two years away.

If gas prices at today’s $70/barrel price bother you, you ain’t seen nothing yet. The spike in oil’s price that will result from the coming crunch will shock the world.

As an increase in the price of oil feeds into the cost of everything, it acts like an interest rate increase in terms of depressing economic growth. If we haven’t already entered one yet, this coming shock will absolutely throw the global economy into recession. And if we’re already in one when it hits, heaven help us.

Chris Martenson

96 Comments on "Why The Coming Oil Crunch Will Shock The World"

  1. Cloggie on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 5:21 pm 

    If you want to create a new world, you need chaos in order to destroy the old order.

    Let’s have the shock.

  2. dave thompson on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 5:46 pm 

    This is a well written and thought out article. The problem is that all will be fine until it is not. Then it will be to late to do anything.

  3. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 5:54 pm 

    “If you want to create a new world, you need chaos in order to destroy the old order”

    It is not at all clear there will be a new order as we know it once the old order is gone.

  4. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 6:16 pm 

    “It is not at all clear there will be a new order as we know it once the old order is gone.”

    If a new order was the same ‘as we know it’, that would imply that the new order would be the same as the old order. Which wouldn’t exactly make it a new order, now would it.

  5. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 6:26 pm 

    Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists

    Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

  6. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 6:30 pm 

    “It is not at all clear there will be a new order as we know it once the old order is gone.”

    If a new order was the same ‘as we know it’, that would imply that the new order would be the same as the old order. Which wouldn’t exactly make it a new order, now would it Davy?

  7. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 6:36 pm 

    And please explain to everyone Davy, myself included, as to which part of my above comment was a lie, an exaggeration, or in any way offensive.

  8. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 6:40 pm 

    greggie, you are just doing your usual pricking. Like I ask you routinely, “say something please”

  9. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 7:04 pm 

    As usual, when Davy cannot rebut a comment, he changes the topic or reverts to his nine year old personality.

  10. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 7:12 pm 

    “greggie, you are just doing your usual pricking. Like I ask you routinely, “say something please””

    I asked you two very simple questions Davy, and my username is not ‘greggie’. That would be ‘pricking’.

  11. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 7:14 pm 

    greggie, I asked you to say something that can be debated. Just whining about grammar does not cut it. Debating the idea is something you are unable to do so you resort to pricking

  12. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 7:18 pm 

    How do you propose that a new order ‘as we know it’, is different from the one we now know?

  13. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 7:22 pm 


    You will get a shock when you see me and home boys gang banging your sister..And if she won’t swallow we will put it on a spoon for that hoe..and feed it to her like a baby..


  14. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 7:24 pm 

    “as we know it” refers to the status quo of being civilized and modern” My comment was meant to imply the possibility of a collapse to a different reality of something not as we know it, becoming the new order. But you know that…

  15. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 7:27 pm 

    America’s first minority white generation is here

    The white devil’s reign of terror is over..

    Hey hey hey goodbye!

    Can’t run, can’t jump, can’t sing, can’t dance..etc..

  16. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 7:30 pm 


    Financial catastrophe resulting from resource depletion and a debasement of value of fiat currencies. Then a 12-month window of tyranny and government lockdown on citizens, followed by a 6-month window of absolute carnage and death. Then, a period of about 6 months of slow die-off and that’s pretty much that. Oh, and starting sometime within the next 5 years or so..

  17. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 7:42 pm 

    “My comment was meant to imply the possibility of a collapse to a different reality of something not as we know it, becoming the new order.”

    If it was the same as we know it now, it wouldn’t be new. It would be the same old order.

  18. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:25 pm 

    And IMHO Davy,

    The new order is going to be unrecognizable, especially here in North America. Eurasia, not nearly as much.

  19. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:28 pm 


    Don’t you think people will find your location or hide out for the same reasons you selected it? I mean if stores start running out of food..People are going to go online and look for prepper hide outs and try to steal your supplies and locations..

  20. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:38 pm 


    BC is massive, with a very small population density. Anyone who wishes to expend the time and energy to forage for food, will find plenty to keep them going.

  21. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:45 pm 

    “The new order is going to be unrecognizable, especially here in North America. Eurasia, not nearly as much.”

    Biased opinion, grehgie. An objective opinion would highlight alternative possibilities that could go either way for both locations. Your bias immediately turned it into a Eurasian/North America discussion instead of a global phenomenon.

  22. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:45 pm 


    I am sure its huge..But with modern technology large areas can be searched very quickly.. Just saying..

  23. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:48 pm 

    “Anyone who wishes to expend the time and energy to forage for food, will find plenty to keep them going.”

    It will be depleted of food quickly in certain circumstances.

  24. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:49 pm 

    Searching an area on Google Earth, is a little bit different than travelling to a location found searching on Google Earth.

    Just saying..

  25. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:52 pm 

    just saying..large amounts of people can easily move into BC and overwhelm it quickly if motivated.

  26. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:52 pm 

    “It will be depleted of food quickly in certain circumstances.”

    I would be willing to bet, that the amount of people in all of North America, that have the slightest clue as to what indigenous plants are even edible, would be minuscule.

  27. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:57 pm 

    who said indigenous plants. We are talking your supplies and your edible wildlife. I am pretty sure BC would be left bare in the right circumstances.

  28. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:57 pm 

    “just saying..large amounts of people can easily move into BC and overwhelm it quickly if motivated.”

    And what would motivate large amounts of people to spend weeks hiking through vast expanses of wilderness Davy? Certainly not a meal or two.

  29. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:58 pm 

    certainly a meal or two would motivate them grehggie if that is where there is food left.

  30. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 8:59 pm 

    Greg, some here are so thickheaded and set in their thinking that new thoughts and revelations are impossible for them. They want to believe that their view is the only one and the correct one. It comes from their conditioning and lack of education of the real world today.

    They are either scared shitless and are in deep denial or so Amerocentric that they cannot envision that the rest of the world will go on after the Us is gone.

    I could give the exact coordinates of our farm and they still could not find it on the ground because GPS does not work well in the area where we live. Not to mention the jungle they would have to travel thru and the cobras and boa constrictors they will likely stumble across. Some up to 15 feet long. lol

  31. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:01 pm 

    3rd world translation: basically he said next to nothing or more like he is just making noise

  32. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:04 pm 

    People die in the bush here on a regular basis Makati. Unless a person is experienced in back country travel, most wouldn’t last longer than a few days.

  33. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:07 pm 

    The US today:

    “The State Of New Jersey Just Signed Its Own Death Warrant”
    “”Get The F*ck Out”: Watch Trump Supporters Kick White Supremacists Out Of “Occupy ICE” Counterprotest”
    “Growing Echo Chambers and Proliferating Propaganda Lead to Fears of a Second American Civil War”
    “”We Have A Rogue Radio” – Hitler Speech Blasted Over Chicago Cops’ Airwaves”
    “We Are All Hostages Of Corporate Profits”
    “This Is What Modern War Propaganda Looks Like”
    “A Record Number Of 85-Year-Old Americans Are Still Working”
    “Russell Napier: “Trade War Is The Beginning Of A New Global Monetary System””

    Slip slidin’…

  34. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:11 pm 

    Who says they will be in the bush. They may be on your doorstep.

  35. GregT on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:13 pm 

    “certainly a meal or two would motivate them grehggie if that is where there is food left.”

    I can guarantee you Davy, that without an experienced outfitter, you would not survive the trip.

  36. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:13 pm 

    FYI, 3rd world’s empty references are all found on zerohedge

  37. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:13 pm 

    True, Greg. I learned that lesson 50 years ago when I worked for the US Forest Service in West Yellowstone. After seeing the claw marks of a grizzly about 15 feet up the trunk of a huge tree, I was more careful. The sap was still running so I knew it was in the neighborhood.

    One summer in the 60s I checked trees sprayed for the pine bark beetle and was alone, miles from a road and armed with a small axe and a notebook. I learned a lot that year. It was a beautiful experience seeing all of the wild animals from beavers to elk, to moose to…you name it. Unforgettable!

  38. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:14 pm 

    who said I would be there grehggie, that is your invention.

  39. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:15 pm 

    3rd world is telling stories again

  40. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:17 pm 

    FYI Davy, MOST of the ones I use come from other sources than Tyler D. They only reflect the conclusions of many other sources.

    Why do YOU use ZH if they are not “reputable”?

  41. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:18 pm 

    Davy, at least my “stories ” are true, unlike your delusions.

  42. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:21 pm 

    3rd world, why not make your comment a proper comment with titles, links and content? I think we know why…intellectual laziness. This comes with old age.

  43. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:21 pm 

    “Davy, at least my “stories ” are true, unlike your delusions.”


  44. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:22 pm 

    An example of your use of ZH Davy:

    “I agree 3rd world, they need more gold to be ready to pay for the cleanup of a busted financial system.
    “China Threatened By “Vicious Circle Of Panic Selling” From Marketwide Margin Call”

    Look familiar? Hypocrite!

  45. MASTERMIND on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:22 pm 

    Why does Trump have rallies after he is president? Obama never did that..

  46. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:24 pm 

    You are slipping even deeper into insanity, Davy. Get help before you harm someone.

    Here’s a ‘reference’ for you to use… LMAO

  47. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:28 pm 

    Well Davy? Answer my question. Why do YOU use Zero Hedge if it is not a good source? I’m waiting… Hypocrite!

  48. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:30 pm 

    “Look familiar? Hypocrite!”

    Did you notice I put title, link, and content? intellectually lazy 3rd world

  49. Makati1 on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:30 pm 

    Since Day disappeared and MM appeared…I will give another reference for MM.

  50. Davy on Sat, 7th Jul 2018 9:31 pm 

    where did I say Zero Hedge is not a good source??? waiting

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