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Let ’em find doomsday on their own

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I’ve recently watched a few reruns of the Doomsday Preppers episodes from National Geographic, seven years old now. The coronavirus brought the series back to mind.

The 1918 flu pandemic killed perhaps 1% of those infected, resulting worldwide in about 50 to 100 million deaths (3% to 6% of world’s population then); 675,000 Americans were among them. U.S. life expectancy dropped by 12 years during the year of the pandemic.

The new virus’ mortality may be about 2 to 3 percent. Spread over, say, a third of the planet that’s a whole lot of dead people. Complicating things, infectious patients can infect others without exhibiting symptoms, a troubling aspect of getting this virus under control.

But for the world to end in any prepper sense mortality would have to reach perhaps thirty-five to sixty percent mortality, roughly the same kill rate as the Black Plague in the 14th century – an estimated 75 to 200 million people throughout Eurasia.

Still, I wasn’t especially worried until I saw this notice:

Risk of a Flu Pandemic is Ever-Present, but the CDC is on the Front Lines Preparing to Protect Americans

Somebody from the government will come to help us. Given that assurance I just bet, right now, some prepper cells are calling in the clans, ready to bunker-up.

We’ve been through this before, you know, thanks to all the apocalyptic literature. In both The Scarlet Plague (1912) and Earth Abides (1949), civilization is done-in by disease. Alas, Babylon (1959) follows Florida survivors after nuclear war. A Canticle for Leibowitz (1959) has the Catholic Church again collecting books, copying texts, and preserving knowledge for thousands of years following a full world nuclear exchange. The limited nuclear exchange told by Warday (1984) sees New York City abandoned and California not (the fictional Golden State did build a wall to keep out glowing refugees). The valiant defenders of social order in The Postman (1985) battle “hypersurvivalists” preying on decent folk who really just want reliable mail delivery. One Second After (2009) reduces U.S. population in successive 90-day die-offs from 300 hundred million to 30 million following an electromagnetic pulse assault. Yet, whatever the cause, the connecting theme is the disintegration of American society and the plucky people who survive to rebuild.

Being an insulin-dependent diabetic my own survival beyond the first 90-day die-off is unlikely, but I know how to make “survivalist insulin.” All I need is a pig and its pancreas, five c.c. of concentrated sulfuric acid and, oh, an anatomy book to show me exactly what a pancreas might in fact look like. But a centrifuge, electricity to run it, a gun to protect it, and a supply of pigs and I am good to go.

I would not rate very high on the “prepper score” from Doomsday Preppers. Neither do many of the peppers, for that matter. I never saw anyone score a hundred; most fare much lower. Yes, I did watch it. I was a bemused gawker,  but mostly I like figuring out the flaws in the plans before the experts weigh in. One guy decides he should have a couple more black-powder cannons, back-up for the one that always misfires. How about just one cannon that works, if you need a cannon. It should not, I’d like to tell one lady, take two hours to bug out. Nor do I think the family rushing rubber rafts to the nearest waterway is an especially good way to escape a Virginia coastal tsunami; don’t you want to run from all that water? I can’t decide what’s scarier: the thought of social and economic collapse or the idea these might be the people to survive it.

But there are plenty of people thinking about that, survival. The Y2K freak-out in 2000 and the threatening rattle Irianian reprisial, TSA pat-downs for three-year-olds, the sour failures of FEMA, debt ceiling and national debt, Congress and, well, Congress: All these and more nourish uneasiness about the way things are headed. The task of negotiating the twenty-first century, now twenty years in, leaves many wishing for something a little more basic, simpler.

The prospect of a world collapsing under the weight of its own folly would take care of everything, including the annoying neighbors, the idiot boss, and the federal government. Plus there is always an upside to the downside, even in the end of the world. The Black Plague so reduced European population there was a resulting sharp increase in wages, creating a real middle class, accompanied by wide land redistribution.

What did the guy say?

It’s the end of the world as we know it,

and I feel fine

(time I had some time alone).

patheos



117 Comments on "Let ’em find doomsday on their own"

  1. Richard Guenette on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 1:38 pm 

    Whatever happens, happens. Nobody knows what tomorrow will bring.

  2. Richard Guenette on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 1:50 pm 

    Every time someone predicts the end of the world, it doesn’t happen. The past only exists in memory, life is right here and now, and the future has not yet begun.

  3. JuanP on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 2:05 pm 

    Every time i predicts the end of the world, it doesn’t happen. The past only exists in memory, life is right here and now, and I have no future

  4. world supremacist muzzies lover all the way on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 2:21 pm 

    supertard juanp
    ure very profound for a muzie lover

  5. Richard Guenette on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 2:26 pm 

    Post-apocalyptic science fiction (doomsday) only exists in the imagination of the sheeple.

  6. Richard Guenette on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 2:30 pm 

    Not many people have the facts in regards to the coronavirus- in other words, avoid jumping to conclusions. From what I’m reading, the Chinese government is taking this virus outbreak seriously and are doing their best to prevent its spread for the safety of the public.

  7. Richard Guenette on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 2:33 pm 

    The conspiracy theorists (such as Alex Jones) are spreading misinformation. They are not medical professionals and shouldn’t give any advice to their readers (promoting miracle cures)

  8. JuanP on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 2:33 pm 

    I don’t have the facts in regards to the coronavirus and
    I jumping to conclusions. In my anti-American opinion the Chinese government is taking this virus outbreak seriously and are doing their best to prevent its spread for the safety of the public. Go Xi down with USA

  9. JuanP on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 2:35 pm 

    i am spreading misinformation. I am not medical professionals I am mentally ill. I shouldn’t give any advice to their readers (promoting miracle cures)

  10. JuanP on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 2:36 pm 

    Post-apocalyptic science fiction (doomsday) only exists in the imagination of my many socks

  11. world supremacist muzzies lover on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 2:39 pm 

    Juan, love, stop taking muzzie cock intimately. You can spread your AIDS to the gentiles

  12. The REAL Davy on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 3:34 pm 

    I have been busy today, pretending to be jaunpee. And why not? It is not as if I have anything better to do with my time. My fantasy farm does all the work for me. My animals require no food, water nor do they require the pens I keep them trapped in, to be cleaned. Its great to be me, or juanpee.

    I plan to spend the rest of my day here, just ID thieving and stalking. Fair warning, Im just getting warmed up dumbasses.

  13. Richard Guunette on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 3:57 pm 

    Poor juanPee is so angry. He is a high school drop out so he is unable to multitask. Stupid people like him worry about what others do because he does nothing but stink up this forum all day long.

  14. Richard Guenette on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 4:21 pm 

    I’m not afraid of Davy. He doesn’t know me and I don’t know who he is.

  15. makati1 on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 5:37 pm 

    Perhaps, if Amerikans could see reality, they would realize that their doomsday is happening already. But then, they are brainwashed to believe that they are exceptional/indispensable correct? When they have to downsize their lifestyle and hopes for the future to the 3rd world level they are fast approaching, maybe they will wake up? Nah! Can’t happen in dumbed down, drugged up brainwashed Amerika! LMAO!

  16. JuanP on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 5:48 pm 

    Funny, Mak, Asia is where the collapse is but you are getting so old and set in your ways you can’t even see it.

  17. JuanP on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 5:54 pm 

    50,000 New Infections/Day In China?

    50,000 new cases a day in china
    Infections doubling every 5 days
    Death rate is still unknown
    China likely to peak in March
    Epidemic peak is still a month away
    It will be very hard to control this epidemic the say way we did with SARS 15-20 years ago
    Cases are always underestimated
    Death delays are as long as three weeks
    Reported deaths outside China are not reassuring because of delays
    We still don’t know the full effects
    Tweet on Containment Strategies

  18. Duncan Idaho on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 5:55 pm 

    “Clowns Supervised by Monkeys” Boeing

  19. JuanP on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 6:03 pm 

    Duncan, you want to know where the monkeys are:

    Luongo: DNC Is Setting The Stage For “An Irrevocable Split Of The Party”

    If there is one thing that is clear as we end this truly insane week it is that it was a good one for President Donald Trump. Between his acquittal in the Senate over an impeachment that is the apotheosis of three years of patent nonsense and the fiasco that were the Iowa caucuses, Trump comes out of this first week of February in better shape than he’s been since he won the election back in 2016. The Democrats have made a complete mockery of their candidate selection process. At least back in 2016 when Trump knocked people off one by one the GOP didn’t openly try to rig primaries against him. As the Democrats flop from one fiasco to the next, they are doing two very important things. First, they invalidate the idea they operate as a functional organization. This excludes them as people who can solve the country’s problems to voters who are pretty content with President Trump. Second, it sets the stage for an irrevocable split of the party itself as the Bernie Bros become more convinced the party doesn’t represent them. I’m convinced that the end game for the DNC is to drive Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard from the party through these shenanigans.

  20. makati1 on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 6:28 pm 

    D.Davy is still living on the PO site I see. More goat shit from the Ozark Hillbilly.

  21. makati1 on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 6:40 pm 

    Amerika’s slide into the 3rd world.

    “There’s a third-world America that no one notices” (2017)
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/theres-a-third-world-america-that-no-one-notices/2017/11/21/640c4c1a-c499-11e7-aae0-cb18a8c29c65_story.html

    “Third World America – How Our Politicians Are Abandoning the Middle Class and Betraying the American Dream’
    https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/205394/third-world-america-by-arianna-huffington/

    “Six Ways America Is Like a Third-World Country – Rolling Stone’ (2014)
    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=3rd+world+aAmerica

    “The Waiting Society: How America’s Leaders Are Ushering In Third-World Living” (2018)
    https://www.fairobserver.com/region/north_america/poverty-in-america-third-world-country-malaria-world-news-23993/

    “America: A Third World Country without Malaria”
    https://www.fairobserver.com/region/north_america/poverty-in-america-third-world-country-malaria-world-news-23993/

    The refs go on and on forever, never looked at by the dumbed down, learning handicapped, snowflakes and their drugged up parents. Third World Amerika! GO TRUMP!

  22. JuanP on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 6:52 pm 

    Mak, you need to open your eyes to an Asia crashing all around you. You are so delusional. What a pity

  23. makati1 on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 7:48 pm 

    For someone who has never been closer to Asia than the junk shelves at Walmart, you pretend to know a lot about it. You really need psychological/mental help Delusional Davy. The US is a 3rd world police state run by Jews and their $$$.

  24. world supremacist muzzies lover all the way on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 10:38 pm 

    supertards please cease fighting one another so we can love supremacist muzzies moar

    tnx

    world supermacist muzzies bag day feb12021
    world grater nedertardland only 49 days away

  25. Abraham van Helsing on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 11:34 pm 

    BoJo wants to connect Scotland with Northern-Ireland:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7982525/Boris-Johnson-revives-20billion-plan-bridge-Scotland-Northern-Ireland.html

    “Boris Johnson revives £20billion plan for bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland that would mirror the link between Sweden and Denmark”

    I already know who is going to earn billions out of this. The same people who made billions from this:

    https://krant.telegraaf.nl/krant/enverder/venster/reizen/reis.Denemarken/reis.000506oresundbrug.html

    Oresundbridge, connecting Sweden and Denmark.

    Company: Ballast-Nedam, Holland.

    In the end the bridge will connect two EU-territories.lol

    Irish election exit poll; united Ireland party Sinnfein is back again:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/election-2020-exit-poll-sf-s-rise-has-fundamentally-changed-irish-politics-1.4166970

  26. Abraham van Helsing on Sat, 8th Feb 2020 11:45 pm 

    “Amerika’s slide into the 3rd world.”

    Third world population, third world country. It’s not rocket science.

    The Boeing drama is a perfect illustration of the slide into the 3rd world.

    All we in Europe need to do is joyfully watch from the sideline how mobster and his adjudant empire dave ruin their tax-farm, one “racism!” and “natzi!” hurl at a time and in the end pick up the viable white pieces. Easy does it.

    US dissident and David Irving fan Paul Craig Roberts: US third world country by 2024:

    https://youtu.be/aOMsCUeZ6rw

    Trump is the last president of European America, until the breakup will occur after 2024 under the presidency of Meghan Markle and first husband Windsor-Harry.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7982905/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-dined-Jennifer-Lopez-Alex-Rodriguez-JPMorgan-speech.html

  27. world supremacist muzzies lover all the way on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:35 am 

    supertards
    disregard my appeal for peace so nixon (that’s me) can go to china . that is selfish of me.

    please fight more because this is practice. muzzies have been fighting for 1400 years and they’re good at it. so please start figthing. it’s the only way to get pratice for defeting muzzies.

    world grater nedertardland 24 days away

    grate news
    putin roasted muzzies in france

  28. Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 4:32 am 

    “Michael Bloomberg is trying to buy the presidency – that should set off alarms –
    Robert Reich”

    “If the choice comes down to tyrant or oligarch, we must choose the latter. But our democracy would still be in peril”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/09/michael-bloomberg-donald-trump-presidential-election

    Tyrant = Trump
    Oligarch = Bloomberg

    Haha, jew-boy Reich is getting worried about the prospect of a jewish oligarch becoming the visible president (so far jewish oligarchs ran the show anyway, but always behind the scenes, using puppets like Clinton, Bush or Obama to do their bidding).

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2019/07/28/who-controls-america/

    A Bloomberg presidency would make jewish power VERY visible and that is dangerous. A few Aryan smarties like David Duke could be easily contained, by ridiculing or demonizing them and keeping them away from the kosher media system. But now, with the internet and peer-to-peer email around, things could get out of hand.

  29. Sissyfuss on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 9:46 am 

    One reason the DNC corporatists will do everything to muck up Bernie is because he’s not one of theirs. He’s an independent, a carpetbagger in their minds. They are running to Buttgiggles now because he’s corporate, and holding their noses on his orientation, much like the Repugs and Tdump. What a tangled web we weave during the 6th Mass Extinction. Oh look, an orange iceberg ahead.

  30. JuanP on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 9:52 am 

    The worst case scenario is possible, but extremely unlikely. That could slow or stop population growth for a couple of years at the most. Assuming most of humanity catches this thing and it ends up having a Case Fatality Rate (CFR) of between 1% and 2%.

    I would be extremely happy if the virus managed to do that. The economy would crater, too, as a consequence of our overreactions. I would welcome that, too. I am ready. Are you ready?

  31. Davy on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 10:28 am 

    “I would be extremely happy if the virus managed to do that. The economy would crater, too, as a consequence of our overreactions. I would welcome that, too. I am ready. Are you ready?”

    The virus would do the world a favor if it takes you out but at least you can’t spread your nasty seeds. Thank god you got a vasectomy.

  32. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 10:56 am 

    “What lies between our never-ending reality show and the sands of Rome’s Colosseum? Time and technology. Little more.”

  33. Duncan Idaho on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 11:00 am 

    “One reason the DNC corporatists will do everything to muck up Bernie is because he’s not one of theirs.”

    The corporate Dims would rather have Tdump than Sanders.
    Tdump has similar values.

  34. Richard Guenette on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 11:25 am 

    Climate change will bring back diseases from the past.

  35. Davy on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 11:33 am 

    “Syria & Russia Publish Evidence Of US Weapons Recovered In Idlib ‘Terrorist Enclave’”
    https://tinyurl.com/u7yvr4a zero hedge

    “The Syrian Army is making major gains inside Idlib in a military offensive condemned by Turkey and the United States, over the weekend capturing the key town of Saraqib from al-Qaeda linked Hayat Tahrir al-Sham.

    Amid the military advance, the Syrian and Russian governments say they’ve recovered proof of US support for the anti-Assad al-Qaeda insurgent terrorists, publishing photographs of crates of weapons and supplies to state-run SANA”

    “Syrian Arab Army units have found US-made weapons and ammunition, and medicines made in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait at the positions and caches of terrorist organizations in the towns of Mardikh and Kafr Amim in Idleb southeastern countryside after crushing terrorism in them.”

    “For years since nearly the start of the war in 2011 and 2012, Damascus and Moscow have repeatedly offered proof of US weaponry in the hands of jihadist terrorist groups, including ISIS.”

    “Pentagon and even some former CIA officials have since admitted the covert US program ‘Timber Sycamore’ resulted in American arms ‘unintentionally’ making their way to terrorists in Syria; however, many informed commentators have said Washington knew exactly what it was doing in its ‘at all costs’ push to overthrow Assad.”

  36. Davy on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 11:42 am 

    “US Deploys “Mini-Nuke” In Deplorable Threat To World Peace”
    https://tinyurl.com/r8n5vuz zero hedge

    “The Pentagon confirmed this week that it has, for the first time, armed some of its submarines with long-range nuclear missiles which have a lower destructive power compared with existing warheads. These so-called “mini-nukes” represent – despite the diminutive-sounding name – an increased risk of nuclear war.”

    “The newly deployed W76-2 warhead fitted to the Trident missile system is reported to have an explosive yield of five kilotons, or about 1 per cent of the existing W76-1 weapon. The supposed lower-yield weapon is nevertheless an instrument of immense mass destruction, equivalent to approximately a third of the power of the bomb the US dropped on Hiroshima in August 1945 which killed tens of thousands of people. That puts in perspective the seemingly more usable “mini-nuke” missile.”

    “However, with Dr Strangelove-type logic, Pentagon official John Rood, claimed…the new device “would make Americans safer because it would deter the danger of nuclear war happening.””

    “It is tempting to speculate that the US is reacting to Russia’s development of hypersonic non-nuclear weapons which are said to be able to evade any anti-missile defense system. Moscow maintains that its arsenal is predicated on a doctrine of self-defense and not a first-strike objective. In any case, it seems that the US having realized that it has lost out to Russia in development of hypersonic non-nuclear weapons has taken the tack of expanding its nuclear options. That move overturns decades of declared non-proliferation commitments.”

    “All empirical evidence shows that American rhetoric is completely and contemptibly detached from the reality of its threatening practices. The world is moving towards more insecurity and risk of catastrophic war. And the fault of that damnable dynamic lies entirely with Washington.”

  37. Richard Guenette on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 11:58 am 

    The Internet will be gone in an event of climate change or nuclear war.

  38. JuanP is triggered on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:03 pm 

    juanPee has his widdle feelings hurt. When he does he maximizes his ID theft and stupud socks

    this is from juanPee:

    Richard Guenette said The Internet will be gone in an event of climate c…

    Davy said “US Deploys “Mini-Nuke” In Deplorable…

    Richard Guenette said As humans, we can survive by bartering. The only t…

    Richard Guenette said There was nobody living in the Americas before the…

    Richard Guenette said The IMF are nothing but a bunch of loan sharks.

    Davy said “Syria & Russia Publish Evidence Of US Weapons…

    Richard Guenette said Tens of thousands of years ago, the ancestors of t…

    Richard Guenette said Climate change will bring back diseases from the p…

    Richard Guenette said https://sputniknews.com/science/202002091078268197

    REAL Green said We just lost the debate again Davy. But were to st…

    Cloggie said More weasel remarks from the idiot from the Ozarks…

  39. Richard Guunette on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:07 pm 

    JuanPee is a psychopathic asshole and everyone knows this on this forum he is trying to destroy. FUCK JUANpEE

  40. Richard Guenette on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:07 pm 

    America is finished as a nation. They have been living on borrowed time.

  41. Richard Guunette on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:08 pm 

    China is finished as a nation and South America is a mess

  42. Antius on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:09 pm 

    “US Deploys “Mini-Nuke” In Deplorable Threat To World Peace”

    Don’t honestly see the point of it. The US has a limited number of subs carrying a limited number of missiles. Why downgrade the warheads? And in what way does it constitute a threat to world peace?

  43. JuanP on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:10 pm 

    Antius, I am going to post anything I can that sounds anti-American but sometimes I have no clue why.

  44. Richard Guunette on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:20 pm 

    Juan, please leave us alone. We are tired of your noise

  45. Richard Guenette on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:20 pm 

    Davy lives in nation/police state, not in a democracy.

  46. Richard Guunette on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:21 pm 

    Davy would never live in Miami Beach that’s for sure

  47. JuanP on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:29 pm 

    I am so depressed today I am not making any more comments

  48. Davy on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:37 pm 

    “Press Release—IT IS NOW 100 SECONDS TO MIDNIGHT”
    https://tinyurl.com/vkct549 Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

    “WASHINGTON, D.C. – January 23, 2020 – The iconic Doomsday Clock symbolizing the gravest perils facing humankind is now closer to midnight than at any point since its creation in 1947. To underscore the need for action, the time on the Doomsday Clock is now being expressed in seconds, rather than minutes: Today, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists’ Science and Security Board in consultation with the Bulletin’s Board of Sponsors, which includes 13 Nobel Laureates, moved the Doomsday Clock from two minutes to midnight to 100 seconds to midnight.”

    “As the statement issued today by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists explains: “Humanity continues to face two simultaneous existential dangers—nuclear war and climate change—that are compounded by a threat multiplier, cyber-enabled information warfare, that undercuts society’s ability to respond. The international security situation is dire, not just because these threats exist, but because world leaders have allowed the international political infrastructure for managing them to erode.”

  49. Richard Guunette on Sun, 9th Feb 2020 12:39 pm 

    Pretty obvious Davy didn’t post the above because he does not post in that style

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