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Fourth Turning – Social & Cultural Distress Dividing The Nation

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I wrote the first three parts of this article back in September and planned to finish it in early October, but life intervened and truthfully I don’t think I was ready to confront how bad things will likely get as this Fourth Turning moves into the violent, chaotic war stage just over the horizon.

The developments in the Middle East, Europe, U.S., China and across the globe in the last months have confirmed my belief war drums are beating louder, global war beckons, and much bloodshed will be the result. Fourth Turnings proceed at their own pace within the 20 to 25 year crisis framework, but there is one guarantee – they never de-intensify as they progress. Just as Winter gets colder, stormier and more bitter as you proceed from December through February, Fourth Turnings get nastier, grimmer, more perilous, with our way of life hanging in the balance.

In Part 1 of this article I discussed the catalyst spark which ignited this Fourth Turning and the seemingly delayed regeneracy. In Part 2 I pondered possible Grey Champion prophet generation leaders who could arise during the regeneracy. In Part 3 I focused on the economic channel of distress which is likely to be the primary driving force in the next phase of this Crisis. In Part 4 I will assess the social and cultural channels of distress dividing the nation, Part 5 the technological, ecological, political, military channels of distress likely to burst forth with the molten ingredients of this Fourth Turning, and finally in Part 6 our rendezvous with destiny, with potential climaxes to this Winter of our discontent.

The road ahead will be distressful for everyone living in the U.S., as we experience the horrors of war, economic collapse, civil chaos, political upheaval, and the tearing of society’s social fabric. The pain and suffering being experienced across the globe today will not bypass the people of the United States. Winter has arrived and lethal storms are gathering in the distance. Don’t think you can escape. You can prepare, but this Crisis will reshape our society for better or worse, and you cannot sidestep the consequences or cruel environment we must survive.

“Reflect on what happens when a terrible winter blizzard strikes. You hear the weather warning but probably fail to act on it. The sky darkens. Then the storm hits with full fury, and the air is a howling whiteness. One by one, your links to the machine age break down. Electricity flickers out, cutting off the TV. Batteries fade, cutting off the radio. Phones go dead. Roads become impossible, and cars get stuck. Food supplies dwindle. Day to day vestiges of modern civilization – bank machines, mutual funds, mass retailers, computers, satellites, airplanes, governments – all recede into irrelevance. Picture yourself and your loved ones in the midst of a howling blizzard that lasts several years. Think about what you would need, who could help you, and why your fate might matter to anybody other than yourself. That is how to plan for a saecular winter. Don’t think you can escape the Fourth Turning. History warns that a Crisis will reshape the basic social and economic environment that you now take for granted.” – Strauss & Howe The Fourth Turning

Social Distress

The vast and growing Grand Canyon sized gap between the haves and have nots, and the societal implications of an elitist uber-wealthy minority capturing the levers of our economic, financial, and political systems, using that control to further enrich themselves at the expense of the isolated working class, can be clearly understood by following the dialogue between three billionaires chatting on stage at a conference thrown by a convicted Wall Street criminal.

Sheryl Sandberg: “Yeah, so let’s follow up on a bunch of the things we were talking about. Let’s start with income inequality.”

Hank Paulson: “Ok, well.. income inequality. I think this is something we’ve all thought about. You know I was working on that topic when I was still at Goldman Sachs..”

Robert Rubin: “In which direction? You were working on increasing it.”

Hank Paulson then bursts out laughing: “Yeah! We were making it wider!”

Paulson and Rubin spent vast portions of their lives working for the vampire squid on the face of America – Goldman Sachs. This firm represents everything wrong with our social order, as they use all means (legal or illegal) to enrich themselves, whether it be back stabbing clients, double crossing partners, eviscerating vulnerable competitors, robbing the poor, rigging markets, buying influence, placing executives in the highest levels of government, or screwing the taxpayer when their risky gambles blow up the world. Paulson and Rubin are the perfect representatives of the .1% ruling class who protect their interests and the interests of their crony capitalist colleagues at all costs. They truly believe they are shrewder, more astute, cleverer, deserving of the billions they have absconded through rigging the markets, should be running the country behind the scenes, and merit the worship of the lowly peasantry.

The gap between the richest 1% and the bottom 90% has never been wider in history. The previous largest gap occurred in 1929, at the start of the last Fourth Turning. When the real median household income hasn’t advanced in the last 26 years and men’s real wages are where they were in 1971, while CEOs of S&P 500 companies make 331 times their workers and Wall Street hedge fund managers make billions while paying no taxes, you have building anger, disillusionment and calls for retribution.

Some people are waking up to the fact the Ben Bernanke led Federal Reserve and the Hank Paulson/Tim Geithner led Treasury saved their buddies on Wall Street while throwing the people on Main Street under the bus. When Wall Street’s leveraged risk bets pay off, they reap all the riches – as is happening today. When their colossal wagers go bad, the propaganda about systematic failure is rolled out and the American people are stuck with the losses. The goal has always been to revive the stock market and make sure the Wall Street banks continue to generate billions in profits, while leaving the taxpayer on the hook for their failed bets.

The OWS and Tea Party were both grass roots initiated movements as a societal response to the distress created by Wall Street and their government crony cohorts. The Wall Street banks colluded with DHS and captured politicians of both parties to crush OWS and subvert the Tea Party. The Deep State’s success in squashing dissent from what they considered the lowly peasants has only been temporarily papered over by the $10 trillion of debt issued to keep the masses sedated, deluded and ignorant about the true nature of the ongoing crisis. The storyline about the 1% is misleading, as many people in the 1% are small business owners, doctors, and professional workers. The true story is the exponential wealth increase of the .1% over the last 35 years as the financialization of the economy has enriched psychopathic, highly educated men who produce nothing but misery, debt, and ultimately social unrest.

Decomposing the 1% reveals the top .1% increasing their share of the national wealth from less than 9% in 1980 to over 21% today. These are the corporate CEO’s buying back their company stock at all-time highs in order to boost their stock based compensation, Wall Street executives who committed the largest control fraud in world history while unabashedly flaunting laws & regulations, hedge fund managers who manipulate and rig the markets while paying no taxes on their billion dollar profits, and billionaire cronies who profit from the military industrial complex and sick care complex by paying off politicians to write laws in their favor and funnel government contracts to them. The sacking and pillaging of the nation’s wealth by psychopaths who are never satisfied with their current vast level of riches, power and control, exposes itself in the tremendous recovery on Wall Street and the ongoing depression on Main Street.

A simmering rage is bubbling below the surface as 20% of American households rely on food stamps to survive, the percentage of Americans in the labor force stands at a four decade low, real household income remains stagnant at 1988 levels, corporate profits have reached record levels while corporations continue to fire Americans – shipping their jobs overseas, and the six mega-corporations representing the mainstream media cover up the truth, mislead the public with propaganda, while celebrating the .1% as saviors of our economy. There is nothing more volatile to societal stability than millions of unemployed men, growing angry and resentful towards the ruling class for their lot in life.

The vast gulf between the haves and have nots will fuel further violence between the classes, as our fraying society is already seething with anger between races, religions, political parties, and genders. The increasingly brutal police state, militarization of local police forces, shaking down of citizens through fines, and unlawful surveillance of our electronic communications, will lead to a backlash against police.

The Black Lives Matter movement, begun after a number of police brutality incidents against black men, has been hijacked by politically motived race baiters and is exacerbating tensions between blacks and whites. The false storyline perpetuated by the media disregards the fact blacks, who represent 13% of the population, commit 22% of all violent crimes and 93% of black shooting victims are shot by other blacks. The white population, abiding by laws, is getting sick of being blamed for the gun violence and lawlessness in liberal ghetto bastions like Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis and Philadelphia.

Cultural Distress

Even though the vast majority of gun related crimes happen in urban ghettos and the much publicized mass shootings are committed by mentally deranged young men on psychotropic drugs, liberal control freak politicians use scare tactics and misinformation in their effort to grab the guns of law abiding Americans living in rural regions. It is the elitist hypocrite politicians living on the coasts, protected by armed guards, who want to eviscerate the 2nd Amendment, and think it is fine for the 4th Amendment to be disregarded by police thugs across the land. Disarming the citizenry is essential to implementing a dictatorial regime. The race wars have intensified, as the Black Lives Matter meme has spread to college campuses in Missouri and in the hallowed Ivy League at Yale and Princeton.

The bullying tactics of the pampered participation trophy generation of entitled millennials, being misled by social justice warrior ideologues, is fueling a backlash by older generations who studied, worked hard, obtained useful college degrees, repaid their student loans, and didn’t use race, gender, or micro-aggressions as excuses when they failed. College campuses, which once championed free speech and free thought, have now become bastions of censorship, left wing ideology, suppression of opinion, shouting down of dissent, thought control, and subduing the rights of the majority for the benefit of an outraged minority who resort to violent rhetoric to achieve their outcomes.

Institutions of higher education have become nothing more than glorified daycare centers for kids who never grew up, learned personal responsibility, or developed critical thinking skills. The feckless college faculty and administrators have allowed financial considerations to override learning, as the curriculum has been dumbed down to meet the degraded capabilities of their high self-esteem/low intelligence students. The reality of an increasingly brutal economic environment and high likelihood of war is about to crash headlong into the coddled, pampered, parent protected, iGadget, facebook worlds of millions of millennials.

They will be nothing but cannon fodder for the Deep State unless they develop a backbone, start thinking critically about what is happening in this world, start dealing with reality, stop trusting the government to save them, and make a stand against the corporate fascist tyranny consuming our nation. The Peter Pan Syndrome, where people with the body of an adult but the mind of a child, increasingly dominate the landscape, as a larger number of supposed adults exhibit emotionally immature behaviors. The self-neutering of young men is the result of twelve years of feminist social engineering in government controlled public schools. The wussificiation is complete.

The combination of social justice warriors, pushing agendas completely out of step with mainstream Americans, and a dying legacy media providing infotainment disguised as news, fuels further cultural distress from coast to coast. With liberalism rampant and dominant on the coasts and conservatism governing the heartland, the cultural divide in the country is a gaping chasm. Average Americans trying to live their lives, pay their bills, and raise families have no strong opinions about gay marriage, men dressing like women, or other deviant behavior performed by consenting adults in the privacy of their own households. But when the liberal media, social justice warriors, and Hollywood elites shove the “right” to gay marriage, the crucifying of people for their religious beliefs, the “courage” of a man pretending to be a woman, and the glorification of abhorrent behavior, down the throats of Americans trying to mind their own business, an unforeseen backlash is inevitable.

The war on the traditional family unit, white males, societal norms, common decency, and community standards has gone too far and the pushback from common decent middle class folks has begun. It is a proven fact that households with married parents are on average wealthier, raise kids who do better in school, can withstand economic setbacks better, and have been the backbone of this country since its inception. The feminist belief that women can raise children without men has proven to be a disaster.

With the percentage of married households plunging from over 70% in 1970 to under 50% today, an ominous tipping point has been reached. Rather than address this truly disastrous problem, the radical feminists and race baiters carry on their culture wars. The social justice warriors, prodded by the liberal media and agenda driven ideologues, are offended by free speech, white people, men, married couples, religious freedom, having to repay loans, gun owners, capitalism, carbon dioxide, meat, yoga and anyone who dares to disagree with their antagonistic, bombastic, vacuous nonsense.

Shockingly, they aren’t offended by the tattooed, pierced freaks roaming the streets, angry because no one will hire them. They aren’t offended by the millions of willfully ignorant, low class army of lazy Obama voters who feel entitled to free housing, free medical care, free food, free phones, and free education at the expense of the working middle class. They aren’t offended by the 70% of black babies born out of wedlock and black men shirking their responsibilities as fathers. They aren’t offended by the rampant criminality and murder rates in the Democrat controlled urban ghettos, created by the welfare policies implemented over the last 50 years.

They aren’t offended by 93% of black murders being committed by blacks. They aren’t offended by a president droning wedding parties and bombing hospitals, while fighting undeclared wars in foreign lands. They aren’t offended by the widespread Medicare, SSDI, and food stamp fraud, costing taxpayers billions per year. Normal people living normal lives are sick and tired of the hypocritical, hollow horseshit rubbed in their faces by a dying legacy media and agenda driven social networks on a daily basis. The foolishness and lunacy of these feckless feeble minded warriors against normalcy will be exposed when confronted by the harsh reality of a Fourth Turning.

The rise of Donald Trump and Ben Carson in the early polls for Republican presidential candidate is being fueled by a rising anger and discontent with the corporate media promoting offensive social agendas, the flaunting of the Constitution by a president ruling by executive order, a GOP establishment corrupted by power and unanswerable to their constituents, the disinterest of politicians in both parties in securing our porous southern borders from foreign invasion by illegal hordes. Now the repercussions of Obama ignoring the threats of Islamic extremism and allowing tens of thousands of undocumented Syrian refugees to flood into the country immediately overwhelming our insolvent welfare system and refusing to assimilate into our culture as they worship at mosques where they are taught to hate everything about American culture, is further fueling a political backlash.

As Aldous Huxley realized six decades ago, the truth is unimportant to those controlling the “free” press and shallow distractions will keep the masses occupied while the controllers achieve their goals.

“In regard to propaganda the early advocates of universal literacy and a free press envisaged only two possibilities: the propaganda might be true, or it might be false. They did not foresee what in fact has happened, above all in our Western capitalist democracies — the development of a vast mass communications industry, concerned in the main neither with the true nor the false, but with the unreal, the more or less totally irrelevant. In a word, they failed to take into account man’s almost infinite appetite for distractions.” Aldous Huxley, 1958, in the article The Capitalist Free Press

The media will use their standard propaganda techniques of showing crying women and children to tug at the heartstrings of a naïve, unaware populace to allow refugees from a conflict created by the U.S. in Syria to come into our country. You know the tired rhetoric – give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. But this is a Fourth Turning where the harsh reality crashes headlong into rhetoric, memes, and storylines.

Whether the U.S. government is responsible or not for creating the wave of Islamic radicals practicing their warped religious beliefs across the globe by committing murder against innocent people, the fact remains that only Muslims are waging this war against non-believers. There are no Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans, Jews, Buddhists, or atheists spreading their religious beliefs by committing acts of terror or waging war. A religious war is brewing and the consequences will be far reaching and bloody for those practicing Islam. There may be only a small minority of radical jihadists, but the silence of the majority speaks volumes to non-Muslims around the world.

As this Fourth Turning continues to intensify, the bowing down to political correctness and agendas of social justice warrior bigots by traditional minded Americans is going to stop. The pushback may be violent, as the aggressive tactics of these free speech hating fascists is met with armed confrontation they aren’t anticipating. These “warriors” aren’t exactly the Hero generation who did the heavy lifting during the last Fourth Turning. Privileged, entitled, ignorant millennials bullying weak kneed college professors and milquetoast administrators on the campuses of liberal arts colleges isn’t exactly storming the beaches of Normandy or battling through the jungles on Guadalcanal.

When confronted with Americans who have seen their standard of living falling for the last twenty five years and are sick and tired of hearing drivel about white privilege, black lives matter, safe spaces, gay and transgender “rights”, micro-aggressions, rape culture, misogyny, $15 minimum wage, and a myriad of other offenses against feminism, these easily offended “warriors” will piss their pants. These trivialities will seem so quaint when they are confronted with an angry guy with a gun on the streets or when they are told to report for duty as we wage war with Russia and China. The foolishness of the culture wars will become strikingly apparent when economic collapse and life or death choices confront our special snowflake generation.

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19 Comments on "Fourth Turning – Social & Cultural Distress Dividing The Nation"

  1. apneaman on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 11:24 am 

    It reads like a typical conservatard, angry, blaming (everyone else) paranoid rant. Too error riddled to break down, but the one group they got right was
    “the .1% ruling class”, who will continue to use their propaganda machine to direct the conservatards (angry loser white men) rage towards minority groups who have no real power and thus are a waste of energy. I would do the same if I was in power. Knock yourself out screaming at each other and killing each other while I (.1% master) sit back, get richer and laugh my ass of at your wasted efforts. Divide and rule. Winning points in the US cultural war may feel emotionally satisfying for five minutes, but it don’t pay the mortgage or feed the kids. While conservatards delude themselves that bringing back a golden age that never existed will fix everything and libtards pretend that conservative politicians are the only reason AGW is getting worse (not their high carbon lifestyles) power and wealth continue to concentrate in the hands of people who do not give a shit about politics, religion or the future.

    Thus, what is of supreme importance in war is to attack the enemy’s strategy – Sun Tzu

  2. penury on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 12:30 pm 

    apneaman, IMHO you are absolutely correct. The U.S. has become a fractured and possibly broken society, It appears that the cure for the situation will be very bad. I greatly fear that the U.S. is about to experience their “Let them eat cake” moment, (i do realize that many other important moments must occur first)

  3. onlooker on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 1:46 pm 

    “power and wealth continue to concentrate in the hands of people who do not give a shit about politics, religion or the future.” And I may add only care about more power and wealth. They are true psychopaths.

  4. Peak Oil Prognosticator on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 2:58 pm 

    I only have one God, and it’s name is Peak Oil. To talk about decline without talking about energy resources is like talking about a flood without talking about water. All of these sociologists, anthropologists, psychologists, or whatever idiot-term they call themselves miss the ball entirely. Whether they are on the Left or Right is irrelevant, they both spew hatred and don’t look at peak oil.

    Peak oil is the permanent end of industrial civilization, a luxury afforded only by the very few for a very short time period in human history. You should simply be glad you get to live in this era because comparatively speaking, even the best empires in world history before industrialization lived more like the poorest do today. Count your blessings that you’re here to enjoy such a wonderful time. And stop wasting time with politics, it is an even bigger and dumber distraction than the Kardashians.

    “Enjoy the decline” is a bit sophomoric but it is probably the best advice you can follow. Eat what you can, drive when you can, fuck when you can, travel while you can, and enjoy life while you can. That way if the oil age finishes you off (which there’s a good chance of it) or reduces your state to abysmal poverty at least you’ll have had the best life you could have had.

  5. apneaman on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 3:33 pm 

    Peak Oil Prognosticator is 100% certain that anyone born outside of industrialization life sucked. 100%. Why did the declaration of independance mention the pursuit of happiness when happiness was obviously not possible then since it predates industrial civilization? Apparently, the founding fathers and colonials did not know how bad they had it. We don’t need no anthropologists or historians or even personal writings from people who lived anytime predating industrial civilization telling us they were happy, healthy and glad to be alive. They lying obviously. No car, no smartphone, no TV, no internet = no happiness or life contentment – not possible. I’m surprised that all humans prior to 1900 did not hang themselves in the womb with their umbilical cord so as not to have to live without all the goodies of industrial civ. And if your not happy living in industrial civilization? No worries, they get a pill or 12 for that. You might lose your hardon – another pill.

  6. onlooker on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 3:45 pm 

    Yes what bull, Non Industrial man was living an uncomplicated life, grateful for what they had, as opposed to homo consumer who always wants more. They lived relatively healthy, were secure and general harmonious with each other as they depended on each other to some degree and thus this strengthen their bonds. They felt alive and at peace in their communion with Nature and the Unknown. As opposed to modern man who is too busy working for the Man and worrying about bills to find much peace or to really feel alive. They meaning pre-industrial man was not terrified of death but saw it as something natural and inevitable and many believed in something afterwards. Contrast that with modern man who is general terrified of death. So this is bull that only via modernity can a human find fulfillment.

  7. bug on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 4:03 pm 

    The two above posts by Ape and Onlooker
    are in my opinion true. Life is more enjoyable if you give up some modern trappings. Personally, I try as hard as I can to lead a simple life and not get so involved involved involved technology I find draining. Doing this makes me happy, and that is what I strive for. Again, this is my opinion.

  8. penury on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 4:11 pm 

    As I was told by a friend from Miss. I am older than dirt, so in a way I lived the first ten years of my life in a pre-industrial setting. In my memory no one ever discussed happiness, And yes we worked together for the times of need, butchering live stock, harvesting and threshing the legumes and grains. No one I knew at the time cared about money, we did not have any and neither did the neighbors. As far as I am concerned most of modernitity is concerned with making life easier and work less time consuming. With all their free time and lack of connection to nature or other people all people have left to do is complain of being bored and how everyone else is screwing up their country.

  9. AeonX on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 7:45 pm 

    THis will all come to pass. Helter skelter.

  10. makati1 on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 7:55 pm 

    I posted this on my facebook page today:

    “How in the hell can a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially, you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” Charles Bukowski 1975

    Do we ever think about “work” in that way? I never did, until I no longer had to do those things.

  11. Plantagenet on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 8:49 pm 

    Has anybody seen the new Star Wars advert? Looks like it will be a cool flic.


  12. Bloomer on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 9:04 pm 

    The majority of the manufacturing base in the U.S. and Canada has been outsourced overseas (since morning in America). Folks from other countries now make the goods and provide a lot of the services we consume.

    Our new service and retail jobs pay a lot lower then the old manufacturing jobs, so our consumption is subsidize with borrowing. Falling interest rates has create a huge debt bubble and now we reach a point where interest rates can not go lower to stimulate the economy.

    However, lower oil prices will stimulate the global economy in the short term. But in the long run, the America restless consumer is dead.

  13. Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 10:06 pm 

    That’s a stupid fucking piece of shit article. I’m gonna print it off and use it to house train the dog. What fucking drivel.

  14. Peak Oil Prognosticator on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 10:46 pm 


    “We don’t need no anthropologists or historians or even personal writings from people who lived anytime predating industrial civilization telling us they were happy, healthy and glad to be alive.”

    As opposed to what, we’ve yet to see an industrial civilization go back from that point. Perhaps there is one small country somewhere, but almost everyone chooses industry when given a choice. They were happy? I’m sure but they also lived extremely parochial and limited lives.

    “I’m surprised that all humans prior to 1900 did not hang themselves in the womb with their umbilical cord so as not to have to live without all the goodies of industrial civ.”

    Yes and dying from disease, war, or any other manner just “added to the experience”. Even though comparatively we are the safest era of human history and have hit an industrial apex. I’m not saying people back then were never happy, I’m saying we should be much more grateful then we actually are. If not you could always mail me your computer and smart phone.


    “Non Industrial man was living an uncomplicated life, grateful for what they had, as opposed to homo consumer who always wants more.”

    Actually it was far more complicated with a far greater set of tasks and challenges. Oh no, the great evil, CONSUMERISM! That bastard that keeps struggling along because people want stuff.

    “They lived relatively healthy, were secure and general harmonious with each other as they depended on each other to some degree and thus this strengthen their bonds.”

    Life expectancy before and after industrialization. Generally harmonious? Safest time in world history is now. Depend entirely on each other? Was that out of want? Or need? You tell me.

    “As opposed to modern man who is too busy working for the Man and worrying about bills to find much peace or to really feel alive”

    Which is exactly my enjoy the decline and seek to find peace at the end of the industrial era. You can sit here and lie to me, pretend you would even last two weeks in 1900’s. Or you can be like me, enjoy what we have until it is gone.

    “So this is bull that only via modernity can a human find fulfillment.”

    Agree but take time to appreciate the now and not stay drenched in “what-if” historical pasts. Fulfillment can come in many forms, but how would you rather be fulfilled: Finding yourself in a modern world, ending up with dozens of possibilities. Or living in 1850, where every day is a fucking struggle just to survive, not get a disease, one-quarter to half of all children dying. Then maybe through religion you “find yourself” and farm for 50 years. Yes, we see.

  15. apneaman on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 11:32 pm 

    Peak, I don’t own a smartphone or any phone for that matter or a TV and my computer is 10 years old – the shipping would be more than it’s worth. I’m certainly grateful for the anti-biotics when I was a child. If you were more studious you would know that good nutrition, uninterrupted, is the biggest factor in health and longevity. There are non industrialized peoples who were fortunate enough to experience that, just like they never had to experience being carpet bombed like big parts of 20th century industrialized Europe did. I doubt they were marveling at the technological advances in Dresden on the night we turned it into a fucking fire storm. I guess it depends on ones perspective. There are millions toiling away in brutal economic slavery, like child coltan miners, so fat white fucks and ever more Chinese fat fucks can have new smart phones and tablets every year. If only they read your cheerleading they might be more grateful to be a part of the industrial progress project. A minority of the apes got to live in comfort for a few generations and all it is going to cost is the end of the species and millions of others. Good deal! The trifecta of AGW + ocean acidification + the 6th mass extinction guarantees it. So we definitely should enjoy the eating while we can.

    Humans could be among the victims of sixth ‘mass extinction’, scientists warn

    “And the study, which was published in the journal Science Advances on Friday and described by its authors as “conservative”, said humans were likely to be among the species lost.

    “If it is allowed to continue, life would take many millions of years to recover and our species itself would likely disappear early on,” lead author Gerardo Ceballos of the Universidad Autonoma de Mexico said.”

  16. onlooker on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 11:45 pm 

    Prognosticator, you barely refuted any of my points. Except maybe to say that many children did not make it. That does not impress me. Oh yes farming was hard labor, so what. When i talks pre-industrial, I mean something like how the American Indians lived, not how Victorian English lived as they were already suffering from civilization’s maladies, such as overcrowding, bad food, stress, crime, etc. Yes their were wars in the past but theirs wars now as well. Yes we have antibiotics but we also have a very fucking contaminated world. Again, I know I would have had much more peace of mind living as an American Indian let us say in the 1300’s then I have had in my 53 years of life as a modern human. As for worried, not really. I have faced my demons, I would hope everyone does.

  17. onlooker on Sun, 29th Nov 2015 11:47 pm 

    Oh i forgot bad sanitation in Victorian England and concomitant disease. Unlike pre-historic times when waste was used as fertilizer and such.

  18. Davy on Mon, 30th Nov 2015 6:04 am 

    PO Pro, I have done extensive historical studies of pre-industrial cultures especially of Native Americans. Their lives were full of fulfillment. At various times when times were good these peoples lived healthy and long lives. We all know the horrors of early industrialization and slavery as short examples. Just look around at many among the 90% of our 7BIL people and see suffering.

    I would argue parochial and limited lives is just what we need currently. This is exactly our problem but it is likely too late to go back to our roots as a species of small and communal and semi-nomadic hunter gathers.

    Globalism is an abject failure that is leading to an earth size mass extinction. Within our human social system we see psychological drift and individual existential mental illness. Anywhere I look I see “unhealthy”. I see unhealthy at every level from within to outside.

    I am not grateful for computers and smart phones. They have destroyed what was left of our communities in the flesh and made us slaves. We have become mechanized like the machines we play with. “Dying, disease, and war are fully part of our modern diet. Overpopulation and overconsumption are destroying our civilization and ecosystem. We are a brittle global system in an irreversible trend smacking up against the wall of limits. These limits are at all levels hard and soft.

    We are playing Russian roulette daily with any of a number of earth killing trends. The same is true of our civilization. Which will strike first and in what kind of cocktail is what many of us research daily here on this board. I can see little reason to be grateful other than we are not dead yet by our own hands. That is a sad way to be thankful.

  19. efarmer on Mon, 30th Nov 2015 5:08 pm 

    Who authored this piece? No attribution that I could see. Looks like a spin of the generational cycles of 4 type about 20 years long each of Howe from the late 1990’s.

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