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Do Civilisations Collapse?

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l breakdown and civilisational collapse run deep in our culture, from Sodom and Gomorrah, destroyed by a wrathful god, to the destruction of Atlantis, submerged under the sea after a massive earthquake. No matter whether literally true or not, these remain two of the most well-known stories in our society – dramatic and vivid, easy to imagine and see. The destruction of Pompeii has captivated audiences for centuries, spawning theatrical reconstructions known as ‘volcano entertainments’, replete with dancers, fireworks and an erupting volcano, novels such as Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton’s bestselling novel The Last Days of Pompeii (1834), and feature films and documentaries, in addition to the many popular and scholarly books.

In literature and film, too, there have been so many contributions that have shaped and continue to shape the ongoing discourse of collapse – in apocalyptic fiction we can trace a line from Mary Shelley’s The Last Man (1826) and Jack London’s The Scarlet Plague (1912) to the more recent contributions of Margaret Atwood’s Oryx and Crake (2003), Cormac McCarthy’s The Road (2006) and Sarah Hall’s The Carhullan Army (2007), among many others. In film, apocalyptic, post-apocalyptic and general disaster movies are a favourite genre – often dwelling on current concerns such as cometary impact or climate change – Armageddon (1998), 2012 (2009), The Day After Tomorrow (2004), Contagion (2011), and San Andreas (2015) to mention a few. Such stories can have serious staying power: Richard Matheson’s novel I Am Legend (1954) has been made into three films across the decades. We are fascinated by the ‘what ifs’ of the end of our wider society, our institutions and way of life, about what would happen if some ‘mega-event’ took place – how would we act, what values would we have?

They appropriate the histories of past and indigenous peoples, and construct them as Western-focused parable

So we are primed by our cultural inheritance to see past collapses as apocalyptic events. As storytelling animals, tales of civilisational collapse are attractive – they have an internal consistency that gives them narrative logic. But there is also a psychological aspect to thinking about collapse past and present. Looking at past collapses, we can feel superior, technologically and morally, to earlier peoples and societies – we know why they failed and how we can succeed, our sense of progress is reinforced. There might be a tinge of schadenfreude even. Turning that to the possibility of near-future collapse, by imagining ourselves standing on the precipice of some epochal change, we make ourselves feel more important – we are living at a key time and we have the power to affect global civilisation, either positively or negatively.

The stories of the Maya and climate change, and the Easter Islanders’ ecocidal self-destruction, suit those who want to make a dramatic argument about our own mistreatment of the environment in modern times, and the possible fate of our own civilisation. They are dramatic, media-friendly, soundbite stories that convey moral and practical lessons, hence they are commonly found in environmental literature and the mass media. There has been a trend to explain other collapses in the same way. But such stories appropriate the histories of past and indigenous peoples, and construct them as modern Western-focused parables. They dwell on the supposed failures of pre-modern and non-Western societies rather than stressing their resilience in the face of difficulties or recalling the Western role in their eventual cultural destruction.

States collapsed, civilisations or cultures transformed; people lived through these times and employed their coping strategies – they selectively preserved aspects of their culture and rejected others. Archaeologists, historians and others have a duty to tell the stories of these people, even though the media might find them less satisfactory. And writers who appropriate history for moral purposes need to think carefully about what they are doing and what they are saying – they need to make an effort to get the history as right as possible, rather than dumbing it down to silver-bullet theories.

In The Travels of Persiles and Sigismund (1617), Miguel de Cervantes wrote: ‘Prudent men should judge of future events by what has taken place in the past and what is taking place in the present …’ Looking around us, we can see the trouble we are in, we can see the threats to our overpopulated world, to our overly complex and thus increasingly vulnerable society and way of life. We do not need to make other peoples’ histories into lessons for ourselves. When the evidence for environmentally driven collapses in the past is so weak, and the evidence for contact-era atrocities so strong, it is a wonder that the former is the focus and the lesson, rather than the latter. Perhaps we should be asking ourselves what exactly we should be learning from history.

Guy D Middleton is a visiting fellow at Newcastle University in the school of history, classics and archaeology. His latest book is Understanding Collapse: Ancient History and Modern Myths (2017).

AEON



197 Comments on "Do Civilisations Collapse?"

  1. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 4:37 am 

    “CHARLES MURRAY: WE’RE LIVING IN ‘POST-AMERICA,’ MOVE TO A SMALL TOWN TO SURVIVE THE COLLAPSE”

    too bad there are no small towns in Holland, cloggo. You are stuck in an overpopulated postage stamp country. Only one worse here is makato who is on an island with 100MIL and 3rd world.

    You purposely fail to take into account WHY Murray thinks the US is going to collapse. Hint: not peak-oil or climate change or “overpopulation”, but this:

    https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Apart-State-America-1960-2010/dp/030745343X/ref=sr_1_3

    “Charles Murray, Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3zy4NRzz4

    “Charles Murray on Coming Apart”

    Murray advises to move to a village in the Ozarks (away from the coasts) because there, there is no “diversity”, like in the big cities.

    Holland may be “overpopulated”, but we have a giant energy province on our doorstep, currently under development (North Sea) and we are still the 2nd largest agricultural exporter in the world. The decisive point to make is that our demographics are still far better than yours. Holland is still whiter than the US ever has been throughout its entire history. For these three points, we won’t run into trouble like you will.

    But you pretend to be race-blind (you are not, you quietly voted for Trump in 2016). Dream on about relative non-issues like peak-oil and financial stability, the real collapse will begin in the US and it will be over race-ethnicity. Significant parts of the US becoming one big Yugoslavia (but indeed not the Ozarks).

  2. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 5:02 am 

    “More cloggo bullshit! Marriage is more than identity politics cloggo.”

    Says the guy who married… and divorced a French and Spanish woman.

    Did your Italian wife, who could have been hospitalized in the US, already return from Northern Italy back to that backwater of yours? I doubt it.

    There is something deeply delusional about you.

  3. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 5:29 am 

    You purposely fail to take into account WHY Murray thinks the US is going to collapse. Hint: not peak-oil or climate change or “overpopulation”, but this:”

    Hint you purposely discount peak net energy, climate change, and systematic decline (plus the Murray thesis which is relevant to eurotardland too).

    “For these three points, we won’t run into trouble like you will.”

    Completely dellusional! LOL

  4. world supremacist muzzies lover all the way on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 5:38 am 

    supertard madcat please apologize to supertard

  5. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 5:40 am 

    “Says the guy who married… and divorced a French and Spanish woman. Did your Italian wife, who could have been hospitalized in the US, already return from Northern Italy back to that backwater of yours? I doubt it.”

    Cloggo, my Spanish/French first wife went home in 1989. Yea, she did not like the flyover Midwest but the problem was more homesickness for mom and her friends. She was in her early twenties then and lacked maturity. I moved over to Spain too when she went home but could not get a job in the corrupt close door Spanish economy so things fell apart. I went home but would have liked to stay in Europe. It is a great place to live especially back then when the EU was materializing. Now it is not so nice and very exposed to a world in decline.

    My wife is home and fully recovered. The hospitals over there are more primitive compared to ours here but I was amazed at the difference in the hospital bill. It was probably 1/3 what it would have been in the US. Some of the best hospitals in the world are in St Louis, cloggo…google thenm. You may call where I am (Ozarks) a backwater but this is now the type of place to be with systematic collapse everywhere. Just wait until the virus creeps into your overpopulated postage stamp region as an example of the dangers you face. I may have a hellish summer to worry about with climate change but you will be underwater living with the fishes. LMFAO

  6. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 5:46 am 

    Hint you purposely discount peak net energy, climate change, and systematic decline (plus the Murray thesis which is relevant to eurotardland too).

    “For these three points, we won’t run into trouble like you will.”

    Completely dellusional! LOL

    Net energy, climate change is not going to cause a Yugoslav-style collapse, nowhere, not even in the US. And we in Europe have a renewable energy alternative that is broadly accepted among the majority of the public, very much unlike the US and its “beautiful green coal”.lol

    The US, that is 60% overall white and 45% white between [0-20]

    Holland, that is 80% Dutch, 10% foreign white and 10% non-white.

    The US is a lost cause, please move to the Ozarks as per Charles Murray and survive the collapse there, Holland is NOT YET a lost cause, provided we get rid of Anglo-Zionism in time and turn to Russia. We are working on it. Trump and Brexit are a HUGE HELP. Merkel, that despicable extension of the European Jewish Congress, is almost gone.

    Murray’s story is not relevant for Holland in the immediate future.

  7. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 5:57 am 

    “Cloggo, my Spanish/French first wife went home in 1989. Yea, she did not like the flyover Midwest but the problem was more homesickness for mom and her friends.”

    That is what I meant!!!

    “I moved over to Spain too when she went home but could not get a job in the corrupt close door Spanish economy so things fell apart. I went home but would have liked to stay in Europe. It is a great place to live especially back then when the EU was materializing.”

    Of course you do! Every negro has that attitude, including white negroes like you.lol

    My own marriage broke down over a fight where to live: Germany or Holland. I refused to live in Germany, regardless of how much I respect and sympathize with that country.

    My first marriage proposal was to a lady from Canada, whome I met at the university in Holland. Thank God that didn’t work out, because she didn’t want to leave her family either and me being the filthy European Supremacist…lol

    “Love” (attraction) is the necessary original impulse for all modern relationships, but it blinds, just look at our Windsor-Harry, whose divorce is almost pre-programmed. Everything else needs to bow for that. But it is WRONG. Love does NOT conquer everything, except in very rare cases. After a year or 2-3 the original impulse evaporates, once the 2-3 children and the mortgage are there and the marriage should and does morph into a friendship and the family becomes an enterprise.

    The eventual purpose of a marriage is offspring and not the empty promise of a life-long exploitation of each others genitals.

    Oh, and there is nothing wrong with arranged marriages, provided the subjects like each other enough to get “The Transaction” happening, strongly supported by society (not this libtard NWO shithole we are stuck with now).

  8. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 5:58 am 

    “The US, that is 60% overall white and 45% white between [0-20]”
    Cloggo, Hispanic is white enough please. Get your number right. Get back to me with those numbers. Also, I believe a little diversity makes a country stronger. You live in an inbred place.

    “Holland, that is 80% Dutch, 10% foreign white and 10% non-white.”
    Yea with a teaming population of Muslims reproducing and an Africa with an exploding population finally with a Euro white population in decline. Do the math…LMFAO

    “The US is a lost cause, please move to the Ozarks as per Charles Murray and survive the collapse there”
    Globalism and modern life are a lost cause everywhere, cloggo, get a grip Mr. Delusional who can’t face the music. At least I am not in denial like you.

    “Holland is NOT YET a lost cause”

    LOL, the US is in better shape than your eurotardland on many levels especially economics.

    “provided we get rid of Anglo-Zionism in time and turn to Russia.”

    LOL, Anglo derangement PBM fantasy creeps into the clog comment!

    “We are working on it.”

    You ain’t doing shit cloggo. Your right wing is stalled just like your renewable green new deal you can’t afford. You are screwed dumbass but babble on daily with your self-admitted digital illness.

    “Trump and Brexit are a HUGE HELP. Merkel, that despicable extension of the European Jewish Congress, is almost gone.”

    LOL, here comes the ZOG stuff

    “Murray’s story is not relevant for Holland in the immediate future.”

    Sure cloggo, keep telling yourself everything is fine. LMFAO. You are so much fun!

  9. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 6:12 am 

    “Cloggo, my Spanish/French first wife went home in 1989. Yea, she did not like the flyover Midwest but the problem was more homesickness for mom and her friends.” “That is what I meant!!!”

    Cloggo, she was not a racist and had many friends from all over the world. No, you got it wrong.

    “Of course you do! Every negro has that attitude, including white negroes like you.lol”

    LOL, we have talked about this cloggo, I am more European than you and that is why you are afraid to do a DNA because your DNA is corrupted by all those years of colonialism not to mention I bet you have Ashkenazi Jew in you like many Euros do. ROTFLO! Too much fun

    “My own marriage broke down over a fight where to live: Germany or Holland. I refused to live in Germany, regardless of how much I respect and sympathize with that country.” “My first marriage proposal was to a lady from Canada, whome I met at the university in Holland.”

    Well on a serious note cloggo, we have a lot in common.

    “ Thank God that didn’t work out, because she didn’t want to leave her family either and me being the filthy European Supremacist…lol”

    Yea, we both have issues with Canadines. You are Anglo deranged and many Canadians are US deranged

    “Love” (attraction) is the necessary original impulse for all modern relationships, but it blinds”

    My God, clogo, what does not blind. Human nature is a blind man walking it just comes down to the relative of what is the worst. Racism has to be among worst

    “he eventual purpose of a marriage is offspring and not the empty promise of a life-long exploitation of each others genitals.”

    How boring and dull. Nothing like a fine piece of ass when you are young! Nothing wrong with a few marriages if you can afford it. I have had a rich life with a few different women.

    “Oh, and there is nothing wrong with arranged marriages, provided the subjects like each other enough to get “The Transaction” happening, strongly supported by society

    How boring and ibred!

    “(not this libtard NWO shithole we are stuck with now).”

    We are in agreement with that one.

  10. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 6:45 am 

    “Cloggo, she was not a racist and had many friends from all over the world. No, you got it wrong.”

    I have friends around the world too, doesn’t mean anything regarding judging immigration policies.

    “I am more European than you and that is why you are afraid to do a DNA because your DNA is corrupted by all those years of colonialism not to mention I bet you have Ashkenazi Jew in you like many Euros do. ROTFLO! Too much fun”

    You have nothing to support that idiocy. Before 1965 Holland was 100% white. I remember 1965 when I saw the first black person in my life, his name was Eddy and he was from Suriname and joined our school. He felt very uncomfortable between all these blond kids and I felt sorry for him. Today I feel sorry for these rare blond kids from poor families, forced to join a so-called “black school” in some quarters in Amsterdam.

    “Well on a serious note cloggo, we have a lot in common.”

    We don’t, you do not draw any conclusions from your life experiences. You learn nothing, you are totally controlled by the globalist ideology, your kosher owners pumped into your minute brain via their media.

    “Yea, we both have issues with Canadines. You are Anglo deranged and many Canadians are US deranged”

    God Bless Canadians!

    “Racism has to be among worst”

    Ethnocentrism/race is THE major explanatory factor behind world history and all its wars. But then again, what do you know about world history? You seriously think that the Roman empire was build on Christianity, where in reality Christianity implied its downfall.

    “How boring and dull. Nothing like a fine piece of ass when you are young! Nothing wrong with a few marriages if you can afford it. I have had a rich life with a few different women.”

    For you a woman is a piece of raw meat. You are a typical disloyal philanderer, who enjoyed the mess he left behind (“rich life”). As I said, you are in mentality a negro, who never takes responsibility for anything.

    “How boring and ibred!”

    You are too stupid to even understand the meaning of the word “inbred”. I never advocated arranged marriages between cousins, like is usance in the Ozarks.

    https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2621/are-there-inbred-families-in-the-ozarks-appalachians-like-in-em-deliverance/

  11. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 7:36 am 

    IOW, the cloggo is triggered and deranged. He can’t even lighten up and and have a fun conversation. He is so extreme and delusional he is actually fun to debate unlike the dirty and criminal juanPee who does endless mindless low IQ socks and obsessive stalking ID theft.

  12. DerHundistLos on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 8:35 am 

    “Well, OK, but shouldn’t Clintons and Obama? My God, Bill is a pedo. Hillary is a gangster.”

    News flash…. President Trump sits in the world’s most powerful position. From this position of authority, he controls the United States Department of Justice. Trump has had more than three years for his justice department to dig up evidence-anything-that might substantiate your rediculous accusations.

    No blaming the “deep state” or the “lying liberals”. As Harry Truman was fond of saying, “The buck stops here.”

    Bottom line: If any part of what you claim is true, what accounts for the total lack of enforcement action from the Trump Justice Department? Could it be because it’s all a bunch of trumped up nonsense used to try and level the corruption paying field for Republicans by asserting, “see, the Dems are just as bad as we are.”?

  13. JuanP on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 8:38 am 

    Delusional Davy “Hispanic is white enough please.”
    What a stupid, ignorant, and foolish thing to say, Exceptionalist! Just when I thought you couldn’t possibly get any worse. Hispanics can be 100% white, 100% black, 100% native Americans, Arab, Asians, etc., and any combination of those. Some Hispanics are, say, 100% Zulu blooded, but were born and raised in a Spanish speaking language, and are Hispanic. Spanish is the language spoken by the largest amount of people in the world as a native tongue, fool!

  14. JuanP on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 8:51 am 

    Cloggie, We all know that all of Davy’s women left him, including his own daughter who has refused to see him for years. It is very easy to understand why. Who knows what this pervert did to her when she was little? Would anyone want Davy to be a part of his life? Would you let him near your children, if you had any? Those were rhetorical questions, of course! ROFLMFAO! I think the twins’ mom may have taken them away, too, since he hasn’t mentioned them in a long time. Davy has openly admitted here that he has failed at everything in his life, and he still lives in a place owned by his parents in his 60s. Today he admitted to failing in Europe, too! Need I say more? Empire Davy is a very well rounded failure.

  15. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 9:55 am 

    “What a stupid, ignorant, and foolish thing to say, Exceptionalist! Just when I thought you couldn’t possibly get any worse. Hispanics can be 100% white, 100% black, 100% native Americans, Arab, Asians, etc., and any combination of those.”

    Wow, you are stupid and triggered. The definition of Hispanic is a very lose one, stupid. In any case I am not a white racist fool like cloggo or an uneducated lunatic like you that thinks he knows the definition of Hispanic when he doesn’t.

    “ Some Hispanics are, say, 100% Zulu blooded, but were born and raised in a Spanish speaking language, and are Hispanic.”

    Not true juanPee under certain definitions. You really ae stupid and emotional. That is a horrible combination

    “ Spanish is the language spoken by the largest amount of people in the world as a native tongue, fool!”

    Wrong again stupid, try Chinese. You really are a stupid fuck of the highest degree

  16. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 9:57 am 

    “Cloggie, We all know that all of Davy’s women left him, including his own daughter who has refused to see him for years. It is very easy to understand why. Who knows what this pervert did to her when she was little?”

    LMFAO, lunatic, nobody believes any of your lies and especially anything you say about me. We all know your are an obsessive cyber stalker triggered by me because I kicked your ass so bad 3 1/2 years ago you can’t get over it. How many people stalk someone for 3 1/2 years?!! LMFAO VICTORY

  17. Cloggie on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 9:59 am 

    Does BoJo even understand what he is talking about? Lately he said that he aspired for the UK the same trade regulations with the EU as Australia has. Turns out that there is no trade deal at all between Australia and the EU, they both trade at WTO terms:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7990567/EU-chief-Ursula-von-der-Leyen-takes-swipe-Boris-Johnsons-Brexit-plans.html

    “EU chief Ursula von der Leyen swipes that even Australia does not want an ‘Australia-style’ trading arrangement with Brussels as she blasts Boris Johnson’s fall back option and urges him not to ‘settle for less’ in Brexit talks”

  18. Cloggie on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 10:14 am 

    Airbus proposes Maveric plane concept that should save up to 20% fuel per passanger-kilometer:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2020/02/11/airbus-maveric-demonstrator-aircraft/

  19. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 10:16 am 

    Oops, sorry y’all. I was rong again.

    “The United States Census Bureau uses the ethnonyms “Hispanic or Latino” to refer to “a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race” and states that Hispanics or Latinos can be of any race, any ancestry, any ethnicity.”
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic

    And Chinese is not a language. It’s a nationality.

  20. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 11:47 am 

    What language does the Chinese speak stupid? Right. Man you are dumb as a box of rocks

  21. Cloggie on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 11:47 am 

    “And Chinese is not a language. It’s a nationality.”

    In Holland it is take away food:

    #39 with rice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F4rm3OUxWc

    The guy on the right (“Gordon”) is a jew.

  22. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 11:49 am 

    Stupid. Where did I define Hispanic. Lol. I didn’t but you did and your original definition is all wrong. More stupid juanPee low IQ high school drop our shit

  23. Cloggie on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 11:56 am 

    “Coronavirus ‘could infect 60% of global population if unchecked'”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/coronavirus-expert-warns-infection-could-reach-60-of-worlds-population

    With a fatality rate of 1% that would mean 50 million dead.

  24. supremacist muzzies jerk maximum low english on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 12:31 pm 

    supertard madcat please get beervirus
    please be respectful of supertard/goat

  25. Not Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 1:38 pm 

    I am always fair and balanced. This fuckwack is not:

    Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 11:47 am

    Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 11:49 am

  26. JuanP on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 2:04 pm 

    Davy kicks my ass so I am not able to be fair and balanced

  27. REAL Green on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 2:08 pm 

    We need to see the docter JuanP.

    REAL Bad like.

  28. Der Hund on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 2:52 pm 

    The above is JuanP obviously

  29. Der Dumbass on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 2:59 pm 

    The above is Davy obviously.

  30. Abraham van Helsing on Wed, 12th Feb 2020 11:39 am 

    Nice problem for a highschool math exam… what are the odds for this to happen randomly?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7981501/Hospital-named-Jewish-couple-suffers-light-malfunction-reads-NAZI.html

  31. Abraham van Helsing on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 2:26 am 

    BoJo power grab, after he pushed Javid out of his cabinet. Javid was the last one who opposed a no-deal Brexit, so we now know that BoJo is steering towards no-deal. Fine, the gloves are off:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8001847/Insulting-No-10-nickname-Sajid-Javid-helped-trigger-big-bust-JASON-GROVES-reveals.html

    “Revealed: How ‘CHINO*’ the insulting No.10 nickname for Sajid Javid helped trigger big bust-up that led to his shock exit as Chancellor – in a blow-by-blow account of meeting with Boris Johnson”

    BoJo is going to be the UK-strongman, after the example of Trump, Putin and Xi, no checks-and-balances.

    The UK Rasputin has stricken again:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8002067/SIMON-WALTERS-Cabinet-reshuffle-crushing-enemies-Dominic-Cummingss-masterplan.html

    “SIMON WALTERS: This Cabinet reshuffle was a ruthless crushing for enemies of henchman Dominic Cummings’s masterplan”

    I am counting the hours until open EU-UK hostility will flare up. Geopolitically we’re back at 1938. My hands are itching.

    Globalism latest: Corona has arrived at Westminster:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8003341/Coronavirus-Westminster-Chinese-woman-went-bus-conference.html

    “Coronavirus in Westminster: Chinese woman went to bus conference attended by 250 people including MPs and chief executives”

    Hilarious how the globalist-leftist UK overclass has become hostage of its own Open Society ideology, by warning against anti-Chinese xenophobia, thus enabling Chinese ticking time-bombs to infect the UK at its very heart. London aspires to become Singapore, they are magnificently en route to achieve that goal [cough, cough].

    Italy further destabilizing, paving the way for a return of Salvini:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/14/five-stars-luigi-di-maio-calls-on-italians-to-protest-against-his-government

    “Five Star’s Luigi Di Maio calls on Italians to protest against his government”

    The current government has prepared to throw Salvini in jail… for the “crime” of locking up 100 or so African illegal gate crashers, depriving them of their “freedom to move”, I’m not making this up. This will only backfire. Italians (who are blessed to never have had darkie colonies worth mentioning) are the strongest identitarians in entire Western Europe. Salvini in jail would only backfire.

  32. Abraham van Helsing on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 2:45 am 

    Leftist central the Guardian and hard-core Open Society mongers fear they are losing (hint: they are):

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/14/anti-populism-politics-why-champions-of-civility-keep-losing

    “The trouble with anti-populism: why the champions of civility keep losing”

    (note: “civility” as defined by pushing the autochtonous population into minority status)

    I’m currently more worried that the entire populist movement could become TOO successful rather than losing steam and I have already stopped voting populist. For Europe the goal must be a situation like in Austria: senior conservatives, junior populists in the same government, where the conservatives keep the populists from blowing up Europe through secession and deliver Europe on a silver platter to the Chinese, so the latter can take over Europe from the Americans (“Brexit”, “Frexit”, etc.) and the populists keep the conservatives from swamping Europe with invaders.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/14/welcome-to-the-quarantine-era-where-bored-lonely-and-trapped-indoors-may-be-the-new-normal

    “Welcome to the quarantine era, where bored, lonely and trapped indoors may be the new normal”

    I’m waiting for the first Corona case to pop up in Holland or my home town rather and then restock my giant freezer and will pick up gardening seriously this Spring, close the doors and curtains and sit it out, together with my “sterile buddies over the ocean”, as you can’t get Corona from your monitor.lol

  33. Abraham van Helsing on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 4:33 am 

    Dramatic U-turn in EU asylum-policies:

    https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2020-02/fluechtlingspolitik-migranten-spanien-marokko-pushbacks-egmr

    Spain is allowed by the EU human rights court to send illegal immigrants back to Africa directly. No need for lengthy asylum-procedures, exploited to the hilt by subsidized professional human rights lawyers with a George Soros picture on their desks.

    Human rights lawyers speak of a dramatic U-turn by European courts.

    Translation: European officialdom is sh*tting in its pants for the rising power of populism. The judges don’t want to end up in a concentration camp, can’t blame them.

    (No worries, we will quietly let them escape to Santiago de Chile, like their failed colleagues, these Eastern European commie lefties after 1989)

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/29/liebe-gruse-aus-santiago-de-chile/

  34. Cloggie on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 5:50 am 

    Turns out BoJo did NOT want to push out Javid, it happened “by accident”.

    “Not the Brexit I voted for”.lol

    Brexiteers now forced to wait for an hour in immigration office queues in Amsterdam Airport.lol

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-live-brexit-cabinet-reshuffle-dominic-cummings-javid-latest-a9335141.html

    A Brexit backer forced to wait in an immigration queue in Amsterdam has complained that “this isn’t the Brexit I voted for”.

    Colin Browning, who described himself as one of the 17.4 million people who voted for Brexit, said he was forced to wait for nearly an hour before his passport was checked.

    “Absolutely disgusting service at Schiphol airport. 55 minutes we have been stood in the immigration queue. This isn’t the Brexit I voted for,” he wrote on Twitter.

    Will be flying to the Black Sea myself next week (in a regular B737). Can’t wait to see that spectacle of continental Europeans passing all those sad Brits in a long queue, having to state they have nothing to declare.

    British leaving the white world. Even Africans are smarter than that:

    https://www.un.org/africarenewal/sites/www.un.org.africarenewal/files/styles/ar_main_story_big_picture/public/unhcrrra.jpg?itok=qjAjtcb-

    Brexit: that is a fat white bloke with blond hair, dressed in a swimming trousers and a towel under his arm, volunteering to leave the warm posh 5* EU hotel, heading for the guillotine, president Macron has installed for him outside the hotel, with 27 national amused onlookers looking through the windows of the hotel dining room, plus a Russian, no less amused.

  35. Cloggie on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 6:03 am 

    Moon of Alabama is the only internet outlet that is relatively optimistic about Corona:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/02/coronavirus-statistical-change-causes-confusion-while-the-new-case-count-continues-to-decline.html#more

    “Coronavirus – Statistical Change Causes Confusion – New Case Count Continues To Decline”

  36. Antius on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 6:30 am 

    “Will be flying to the Black Sea myself next week (in a regular B737). Can’t wait to see that spectacle of continental Europeans passing all those sad Brits in a long queue, having to state they have nothing to declare.”

    Standing in an immigration queue for an hour on a trip to Europe isn’t something that most people are going to care about. They are likely to simply go elsewhere.

    The real danger of Brexit is that it frees the neoliberal elites that run the UK from any sort of discipline from the European court. I know that it was never that good and it is run by very similar neo-liberal nitwits to the UK supreme court. But it was at least a court of appeal against the sort of undemocratic oppression that the Globalist backed Blairites are now free to hand out against the British people.

    The opportunity for Europe is to become a land of freedom, where restrictions on speech are removed. Unfortunately, the place appears to be heading towards the same sort of Orwellian hell as the UK.

    if Trump had any balls or any understanding of the situation, he would sanction the UK for the oppressive police-state that it is. He should not be offering a trade deal.

  37. Davy on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 8:48 am 

    “”It’s Coming”: CDC Director Warns Coronavirus To Become Widespread Throughout United States, ‘Probably Beyond 2020’”
    https://tinyurl.com/wa7kgm3 zero hedge

    “The extremely virulent coronavirus which is sweeping through China’s Hubei province like wildfire will eventually gain a foothold in the United States – becoming a ‘community virus’ this year or next, according to CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield.”

  38. Cloggie on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 8:58 am 

    The above is obviously Juan P ID theft. Juan, please grow up and be a normal human being instead of a troll.

  39. JuanP ID theft on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 9:00 am 

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  40. Abraham van Helsing on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 3:46 pm 

    Trump under attack.

    After the failed attempt by Adam Schiff and his impeachment debacle, the next batch of jews are lining up to get rid of the Aryan intruder. Bloomberg will attempt to defeat Trump during the presidential campaign.

    Now we have Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world, who will attempt to drag Trump before a court, because of a missed contract in the billions:

    https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/jeff-bezos-gegen-donald-trump-der-reichste-mann-der-welt-gegen-den-maechtigsten-a-2d65f85a-e4f6-4e8f-9f9c-8d756f95afde

    But that contract is only the pretext. Bezos real purpose is to humiliate Trump and prepare his downfall so the jews can take back their tax-farm and continue to threaten the world.

    The leftist liars of der Spiegel, who back global jewry and its One World program, pretend this battle is a matter of two egos, rather than what it really is: a power struggle between The Tribe and the endless amount of spineless white traitors (like empire dave, joe esquire, sissy and DerHund) vs European America.

  41. Abraham van Helsing on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 3:56 pm 

    Corona could postpone campaign-2020:

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/impure-thoughts/

    “The USA gets everything from car parts to pharmaceuticals from China. How long will it take for the manufacturing lock-down to show up in American daily life? What if it continues for some months going forward? You can easily draw your own conclusions.”

    Mobsters insane idea that Corona will only bring down the Chinese economy is absurd. If China goes down, every other major player will go down with it.

  42. Abraham van Helsing on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 4:19 pm 

    “Sinn Fein’s election victory is Ireland’s ‘Brexit moment’ when left-out voters turn on the elite“

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/sinn-fein-ireland-election-victory-brexit-politics-elite-a9336496.html

  43. Abraham van Helsing on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 4:37 pm 

    BBC Newsnight: schools might have to be closed down indefinately

  44. Abraham van Helsing on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 4:41 pm 

    The West is unable to implement the required draconian measures, like China is able to push through.

  45. makati1 on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 5:42 pm 

    “Mobsters insane idea that Corona will only bring down the Chinese economy is absurd. If China goes down, every other major player will go down with it.” YEP!

    The US could never even close for a day. The clowns in DC would take six months to decide what to decide on. Trump could call for a lock-down, but it wouldn’t happen. The Market Casino would have him shot. Better millions die than to cause a recession/depression.

    Such as it is in the fascist, socialist, oligarchy called “Amerika”. There are definitely advantages to having a WORKING government like China’s. No delays for debate and payoffs to the “elected”.

  46. makati1 on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 6:06 pm 

    Looks like Amerika’s JIT delivery system is going to be the poison that kill the US economy. Especially when it depends on China for its stuff. Or even for the materials to make stuff in the USA. Example: Apple stuff.

    Was a time when greed did not rule Amerika. When everything was made in the USA and the needed materials were located in the USA. When stores had real inventories in the warehouse. When everyone who wanted a living wage job had one, with real benefits. Then greed set in big time as more and more wanted more and more. So be it. Interesting to watch … from here.

  47. Dr. C. Everett Koop, III on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 6:13 pm 

    Davy,

    How about some practical advice?

    Instead of fingering your twat, try focusing on an intelligent reply and you might surprise yourself. Sadly, all that matters in your life is masterbatory satisfaction.

  48. ANAL REAPER on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 7:02 pm 

    Dr. C. Everett Koop, III if you talk to juanPee right he will suck your cock

  49. JuanP on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 7:05 pm 

    Mak, get real about your stupid China. It is going down but you were the delusional fool who said Asia is going up and the west going down. This is just another one of your failed stories.

  50. JuanP on Fri, 14th Feb 2020 7:06 pm 

    Koop, me loves the cock especially brown cock.

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