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Do Civilisations Collapse?

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l breakdown and civilisational collapse run deep in our culture, from Sodom and Gomorrah, destroyed by a wrathful god, to the destruction of Atlantis, submerged under the sea after a massive earthquake. No matter whether literally true or not, these remain two of the most well-known stories in our society – dramatic and vivid, easy to imagine and see. The destruction of Pompeii has captivated audiences for centuries, spawning theatrical reconstructions known as ‘volcano entertainments’, replete with dancers, fireworks and an erupting volcano, novels such as Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton’s bestselling novel The Last Days of Pompeii (1834), and feature films and documentaries, in addition to the many popular and scholarly books.

In literature and film, too, there have been so many contributions that have shaped and continue to shape the ongoing discourse of collapse – in apocalyptic fiction we can trace a line from Mary Shelley’s The Last Man (1826) and Jack London’s The Scarlet Plague (1912) to the more recent contributions of Margaret Atwood’s Oryx and Crake (2003), Cormac McCarthy’s The Road (2006) and Sarah Hall’s The Carhullan Army (2007), among many others. In film, apocalyptic, post-apocalyptic and general disaster movies are a favourite genre – often dwelling on current concerns such as cometary impact or climate change – Armageddon (1998), 2012 (2009), The Day After Tomorrow (2004), Contagion (2011), and San Andreas (2015) to mention a few. Such stories can have serious staying power: Richard Matheson’s novel I Am Legend (1954) has been made into three films across the decades. We are fascinated by the ‘what ifs’ of the end of our wider society, our institutions and way of life, about what would happen if some ‘mega-event’ took place – how would we act, what values would we have?

They appropriate the histories of past and indigenous peoples, and construct them as Western-focused parable

So we are primed by our cultural inheritance to see past collapses as apocalyptic events. As storytelling animals, tales of civilisational collapse are attractive – they have an internal consistency that gives them narrative logic. But there is also a psychological aspect to thinking about collapse past and present. Looking at past collapses, we can feel superior, technologically and morally, to earlier peoples and societies – we know why they failed and how we can succeed, our sense of progress is reinforced. There might be a tinge of schadenfreude even. Turning that to the possibility of near-future collapse, by imagining ourselves standing on the precipice of some epochal change, we make ourselves feel more important – we are living at a key time and we have the power to affect global civilisation, either positively or negatively.

The stories of the Maya and climate change, and the Easter Islanders’ ecocidal self-destruction, suit those who want to make a dramatic argument about our own mistreatment of the environment in modern times, and the possible fate of our own civilisation. They are dramatic, media-friendly, soundbite stories that convey moral and practical lessons, hence they are commonly found in environmental literature and the mass media. There has been a trend to explain other collapses in the same way. But such stories appropriate the histories of past and indigenous peoples, and construct them as modern Western-focused parables. They dwell on the supposed failures of pre-modern and non-Western societies rather than stressing their resilience in the face of difficulties or recalling the Western role in their eventual cultural destruction.

States collapsed, civilisations or cultures transformed; people lived through these times and employed their coping strategies – they selectively preserved aspects of their culture and rejected others. Archaeologists, historians and others have a duty to tell the stories of these people, even though the media might find them less satisfactory. And writers who appropriate history for moral purposes need to think carefully about what they are doing and what they are saying – they need to make an effort to get the history as right as possible, rather than dumbing it down to silver-bullet theories.

In The Travels of Persiles and Sigismund (1617), Miguel de Cervantes wrote: ‘Prudent men should judge of future events by what has taken place in the past and what is taking place in the present …’ Looking around us, we can see the trouble we are in, we can see the threats to our overpopulated world, to our overly complex and thus increasingly vulnerable society and way of life. We do not need to make other peoples’ histories into lessons for ourselves. When the evidence for environmentally driven collapses in the past is so weak, and the evidence for contact-era atrocities so strong, it is a wonder that the former is the focus and the lesson, rather than the latter. Perhaps we should be asking ourselves what exactly we should be learning from history.

Guy D Middleton is a visiting fellow at Newcastle University in the school of history, classics and archaeology. His latest book is Understanding Collapse: Ancient History and Modern Myths (2017).

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197 Comments on "Do Civilisations Collapse?"

  1. joe on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:15 am 

    “What you need is right-wingers, with an Antifa-like cut-throat activism”

    You mean the brownshirts? Yeah, you eurotrash tried that already. Didnt end well.

  2. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:17 am 

    “When a nation’s billionaires control not only its mega-corporations but its government, that small group — who do business with one-another”

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/12/11/will-democratic-presidential-nomination-be-bought-oligarchs

    “Will the Democratic Presidential Nomination Be Bought by the Oligarchs?”

    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/02/04/pro-israel-buttigieg-seth-klarman-iowas-voting-app/

    “Billionaire pro-Israel Buttigieg backer Seth Klarman funds group behind Iowa’s disastrous voting app”

    https://www.businessinsider.nl/pete-buttigieg-billionaire-donations-are-getting-called-out-by-bernie-2020-2?international=true&r=US

    “Mayor Pete has taken donations from 40 billionaires — and Bernie Twitter is burying him for it”

  3. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:21 am 

    “You mean the brownshirts? Yeah, you eurotrash tried that already. Didnt end well.”

    History doesn’t repeat. This time it is the Anglos vs Eurasia, rather then Germany against the entire world. Globalism is over. You better lie under the bed until it is all over because with anti-white white traitors like you we have a lot scores to settle.

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2020/02/02/gibraltar-the-danzig-of-ww3/

    Brexit idiot joe seriously thinks that he can go to war again against Germany with Trump-America and Putin-Russia and Macron-France.

    Total delusional.

  4. Cloggie on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:33 am 

    The above is JuanPee. How do I know, Davy does not write in that style.

  5. Cloggie on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:35 am 

    “Davy said “In The Bubble: Trump’s Presidency Reveals 7…”

    OOps this is another JuanPee. Same reason

  6. Milton Friedman on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:41 am 

    “The real distribution of economic strength all over the planet, masked by the dollar reserve currency:”

    Abe, a surplus means little unless multiple other indicators are also relevant. IOW, you need to go back to school. Obviously, you are showing your chauvinism and Anglo derangement. This makes you basically irrelevant to the conversation. Go bark up a tree elsewhere

  7. Antius on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:42 am 

    “What you need is right-wingers, with an Antifa-like cut-throat activism”

    There was a group like that in the UK called National Action. The UK Home Secretary wasted no time declaring them a banned organisation and then proceeding to hunt down its members and throw them into prison.

    Never underestimate the duplicity of the British government and their ability to stamp on their own people. They will turn a blind eye to Islamic invaders raping young white girls, but will happily terrorise to the full extent of their corrupt laws, any native attempt to stand up to invasion. An Englishman’s greatest enemy has always been his own government.

    Any attempt by British people to form a right wing resistance group would have to be very clandestine. Something that functions as an underground, that is invisible to anyone on the outside.

  8. JuanP on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:45 am 

    I am very depressed and in hiding so my comments will be lite today. I am worried a cruise ship will bring the China virus to my Miami Beach. Since I have AIDS I am particularly vulnerable. My boyfriend will be taking care of me.

  9. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 12:49 pm 

    CDU-grand, former German defense minister and one time successor candidate to lead the CDU (and become chancellor), Volker Ruhe, has said that now is the time for Merkel to go.

    Here Ruhe during a EU-Russian conference (2nd from the right):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClVw6LmLZ0Y

    https://www.mmnews.de/politik/138600-ruehe-merkel

    “Merkel needs to go”

    Ruhe is in favor of a rapprochement between the EU and Russia.

    The right-wing undercurrent in the CDU (“Werte-union”, “Value-union”) is preparing to take back the CDU from Merkel. Won’t be long until a coalition CDU-AfD will become acceptable in the German political landscape.

    https://twitter.com/hgmaassen

    Things are really changing now in continental Europe.

  10. DerHundistLos on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 2:27 pm 

    “Trump Ordered to Pay $2 Million Fine for Misuse of Charitable Funds” ~~FOX News~~

    “A judge Thursday ordered President Donald Trump to pay $2 million to an array of charities as a fine for misusing his own charitable foundation to further his political and business interests.”

    Good God, just when I thought I had seen everything, Trump is convicted of embezzling charitable funds for his personal benefit.

    Nice going Trump, you slime, stealing from charities for your own benefit. DISGUSTING

  11. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 2:46 pm 

    Davy smelled the coffee of what will happen to America and acted upon that insight, although he doesn’t want to openly admit it and prefers to hide behind “peak-oil”:

    https://www.infowars.com/charles-murray-were-living-in-post-america-move-to-a-small-town-to-survive-the-collapse/

    “CHARLES MURRAY: WE’RE LIVING IN ‘POST-AMERICA,’ MOVE TO A SMALL TOWN TO SURVIVE THE COLLAPSE”

  12. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 2:58 pm 

    Watched this movie yesterday on German for 30 minutes; Missouri-Ozarks, Davy country:

    https://youtu.be/5O8F8JtSVmI

    https://www.daserste.de/unterhaltung/film/filme-im-ersten/sendung/winters-bone-132.html

  13. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 3:05 pm 

    “Good God, just when I thought I had seen everything, Trump is convicted of embezzling charitable funds for his personal benefit.”

    DerHund “forgot” to mention the source, here it is:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/07/trump-charity-foundation-misuse-067411

    There is no way Trump embezelled two million.

    “In a defiant statement issued Thursday evening, though, Trump suggested he was neither sorry nor in the wrong. “I am the only person I know, perhaps the only person in history, who can give major money to charity (19M), charge no expense, and be attacked by the political hacks in New York State,” he wrote.

    He assailed a series of Democratic attorneys general of New York who were involved with the suit, saying they should have spent their time investigating the Clinton Foundation.

    “It has been 4 years of politically motivated harassment,” Trump said.

    Trump’s foundation will be dissolved and its $1.7 million in remaining funds will be given to other nonprofits, under agreements reached by Trump’s lawyers and the attorney general’s office.

    The president admitted, among other things, to arranging for the charity to pay $10,000 for a 6-foot portrait of him. He also agreed to pay back $11,525 in foundation funds that he spent on sports memorabilia and champagne at a charity gala.“

    Peanuts, political motivated haressment from a Democrat judge and deceptively presented by DerHund.

  14. REAL Green on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 3:26 pm 

    “I am very depressed and in hiding so my comments will be lite today.”

    That why we need to see the docter Juanpee. REAL Bad like.

  15. makati1 on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 4:57 pm 

    Der, and you think Killary didn’t use millions for her personal wants when she was running? How did she become a millionaire in a few years? Not honestly, I am sure. All the Clintons are crooks and liars. Ditto politicians in general. All on the take one way or another. Ref: $125,000. to give a talk at some dinner. LMAO!

    The stupid Dems are getting very desperate. Bernie is moving up. Trump vs Bernie? A good race, IF they let him run. I might even switch to Bernie…if I were to vote, which I will not. The US will be destroyed either way, but he is less likely to start a new war. At least not one outside the 50 states. Pass the popcorn…

  16. Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 5:00 pm 

    “CHARLES MURRAY: WE’RE LIVING IN ‘POST-AMERICA,’ MOVE TO A SMALL TOWN TO SURVIVE THE COLLAPSE”

    too bad there are no small towns in Holland, cloggo. You are stuck in an overpopulated postage stamp country. Only one worse here is makato who is on an island with 100MIL and 3rd world.

  17. Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 5:04 pm 

    “Watched this movie yesterday on German for 30 minutes; Missouri-Ozarks, Davy country:”

    Great movie, cloggo, and yea it is like that in places around the Ozarks. The movie was actually closer to the ARK border. I am here because it is a great green prepping place not because it is Napa Valley

  18. Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 5:07 pm 

    “In a defiant statement issued Thursday evening, though, Trump suggested he was neither sorry nor in the wrong. “I am the only person I know, perhaps the only person in history, who can give major money to charity (19M), charge no expense, and be attacked by the political hacks in New York State,” he wrote. He assailed a series of Democratic attorneys general of New York who were involved with the suit, saying they should have spent their time investigating the Clinton Foundation.”

    No shit, the real evil is the Clinton political machine that has trashed the Democratic party. Delusional people like der hund still believe in that corruption. Mix Obama Chicago slime with Clinton crime and you get a real nasty outcome.

  19. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 5:29 pm 

    Old news, again confirmed:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2019/12/21/here-are-the-billionaires-backing-pete-buttigiegs-presidential-campaign/

    “Here Are The Billionaires Backing Pete Buttigieg’s Presidential Campaign”

    Most of them jews.

    US politics is for sale to the highest bidder and that means the (((owners))) of the Fed.

  20. Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 5:54 pm 

    “Great movie, cloggo, and yea it is like that in the Ozarks.”

    BTW cloggo. I wasn’t just talkin bout the shacks. The violence and mental health troubles are REAL to. Obv. Now you no why i’m the way I am.

  21. The REAL Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 5:54 pm 

    Sorry for that post above.

    Actually, I live where I do because it is all I can afford. But it is also because I am an extremely embittered and hostile individual with no friends, family, or redeeming qualities of any kind. I am not really welcome anywhere, except here, and that is only because like cloggo, they wont ban anyone, even mental cases like him and I.

    The only prepping I do, is for a full day of stalking, ID theft, and making stupid comments using anyone’s name that has ever posted here.

    Just wanted to clear the air on that since I believe in being fair and balanced.

  22. JuanP on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 5:59 pm 

    The above is JuanP because I am JuanP and I know when I am stealing ID’s.

  23. JuanP on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:04 pm 

    The above is Davy because I am Davy and I no when I am stealing ID’s.

  24. Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:07 pm 

    I like goats cus they smell better then most folk hear. Includin me.

  25. DerHundistLos on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:10 pm 

    The above is not Davy so it must be the board troll, JuanP

  26. makati1 on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:13 pm 

    Der, get used to it juanP has been trolling daily for 3 years now or have you just figured that out???

  27. More Davy ID theft on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:22 pm 

    davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:13 pm

  28. Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:26 pm 

    “The Nikola Motor Badger Will Have 600 Mile Range & Arrive As A Battery Electric & Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle”
    https://tinyurl.com/yx58cf9s clean technica

    “Today, Nikola Motors unveiled a new electric truck, the Badger. The vehicle is still in the early stages of development, but the company is working on a battery electric version and a hydrogen fuel cell electric configuration that can also recharge its onboard battery from the grid. The Badger will hit the market with a 600 mile (965 km) range and a 0–60 mph time of 2.9 seconds…The Badger’s expected 600 mile (965 km) range is more than enough for just about any workday, and with fast recharging times overnight or from any one of a number of public DC fast charging networks, range is no longer an issue. In fact, the massive 160 kWh battery in the Badger brings new functionality to workers with a 15 kW power export outlet that will allow owners to use their truck to provide electricity to power their workday. That’s more than enough juice to run power tools, job lights, compressors, and the like. A High-Performance Beast Of A Work Truck The performance of the Badger promises to blow the socks off of internal combustion-powered trucks with a staggering 906 peak horsepower (455 HP continuous) and 980 ft·lb of torque. The current list of specs, while only preliminary at this point, are about as impressive as it gets for a truck. The FCEV configuration will be able to operate on grades up to 40% thanks to a unique blend of power from the batteries and the fuel cell.”

  29. JuanP on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:28 pm 

    I wish I could do a real comment like Davy but I am addicted to trolling

  30. Not Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:31 pm 

    Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:26 pm

    I make REAL comments. I don’t just mindlessly copy and paste shit from all over the internets. Or write endless word salads. Only schizophrenics do that.

  31. JuanP on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:36 pm 

    Nothing is true & everything Is possible: the surreal heart of the new Russia by Peter Pomerantsev
    Posted on February 10, 2020 by energyskeptic
    Preface. In light of how greatly Russia influenced the election of Trump, it’s worth reading this book to see how Russia has used propaganda to control their own people, keep Putin in office, and in general how the rule of law has vanished and corruption increased. Since the state controls the media, Russians hear nothing but “FOX news”.

    This is an amazing look at what it is like in Russia these days. There are schools that teach golddiggers how to win the hearts of the new billionaires, Scientology-like religious scams, how any wealthy business owner can be sent to jail until huge bribes are paid, and much more. The most important point is about how the media is controlled by Putin for propaganda purposes in a very clever, sophisticated and surreal way. I have been amused over the years by Putin’s endless photo ops as a strong, macho, James Bond figure, but I’m less amused after reading this book.

    I thought the U.S. was just as corrupt as Russia’s when you consider all the fraud in America and no executives in jail (mortgage bubble, credit card scams, etc.). But we have much further to fall and just because we haven’t reached the depths of Russia’s corruption yet, doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. In fact, this book makes a good case that this is where we are headed.

    In fact this book and my review were written long before Trump was elected. It seems prophetic now in 2020.

  32. Anonymouse on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:38 pm 

    JuanP please stop your plagiarism. If you are going to reference an article properly show a link, dumbass

  33. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:40 pm 

    Turkey and the USA:

    “Erdogan and Trump have at least one thing in common: a voter base that consists largely of hysterical morons, motivated by a melange of irrational chauvinism and retarded religious fundamentalism.”

  34. Davy on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:45 pm 

    “Fitch: Solar Projects Much More Reliable Performers Than Wind Farms”
    https://tinyurl.com/rvj8bzs green tech media

    “It might be obvious to anyone in the renewable energy business, but a growing body of data collected by Fitch Ratings backs it up: Solar projects are a safer bet than wind farms when it comes to kicking out the expected amount of power. Many wind farms significantly underperform expectations, according to a recent Fitch analysis. On the other hand, solar arrays are proving so reliable over time that developers are finding themselves able to secure financing on more favorable terms — an important long-term tailwind for the market.

  35. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:54 pm 

    Daffy as a Groundhog on LSD: Lindsey Graham “Forgets” GOP Entrapment of Clinton and Benghazi Brigade as He Urges Jail for Those Who Investigated Trump
    https://buzzflash.com/articles/daffy-as-a-groundhog-on-lsd-lindsey-graham-forgets-gop-entrapment-of-clinton-and-benghazi-brigade-as-he-urges-jail-for-those-who-investigated-trump

    Hint:
    The groundhog is smarter

  36. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 7:07 pm 

    Fat Boy analysis:
    “He is weak, he isn’t strong. On the other hand, he cheats. No one can afford to go to sleep on him and his henchman.”

    The Fat Boy lies and cheats— it will be hard to get him out of office.

  37. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 7:17 pm 

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America, told New York magazine, “In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party, but in America, we are.”

  38. DerHundistLos on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 8:29 pm 

    Someone stealing my identity:

    DerHundistLos on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 6:10 pm

  39. DerHundistLos on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 8:43 pm 

    Abraham van Helsing AKA Cloggie:

    “President Pays Gigantic Fine for Stealing From Charity”

    What’s your favorite act of misusing and/or stealing funds from a charity in this list of violations to which the president of the United States of America, Donald Trump, just admitted in the course of paying $2 million in court-ordered damages to resolve a lawsuit filed against him by the New York attorney general’s office?

    6. When he used $10,000 of the Trump Foundation’s money to buy a painting of himself (Donald Trump) that he hung inside his Doral resort in Miami.

    1. When he had the Trump 2020 campaign put the Trump Foundation’s name on promotional materials and ceremonial checks related to a fundraiser that he, as a candidate, held for military veterans in January 2016. (The Trump Foundation was ostensibly a charity, and charities can’t participate in political campaigns.)

    2. When he used $100,000 of the Trump Foundation’s money—which was raised almost entirely from other people—to settle an ordinance dispute that his Mar-a-Lago club/vacation home was having with the city of Palm Beach, Florida. (He had violated the ordinance in question by flying an enormous American flag on an 80-foot flagpole, which, admittedly, is a funny way to get sued by the city of Palm Beach.)

    3. When he used $157,820 of the Trump Foundation’s money to settle a legal dispute with a man who’d won a $1 million hole-in-one prize during an event held by another charity at a Trump golf course in New York. (The resolution agreement released by New York state says that a company from which the outside charity had purchased “ ‘hole in one’ insurance” was responsible for denying the man his prize. Per reporting by the Washington Post’s David Fahrenthold, who uncovered a great deal of the activity covered in New York’s suit, the question at issue was whether Trump’s golf course had made the relevant hole too short.)

    4. When he used $25,000 of the charity’s money to make a donation to a political group that supported then–Florida attorney general Pam Bondi at the same time that Bondi was considering whether to sue “Trump University” for defrauding its “students.” (Bondi did not, but New York’s attorney general did, which led in part to the other multimillion-dollar fraud settlement that Trump paid since taking office.) (Bondi now works for the White House as a special adviser to Trump on matters related to impeachment.)

    5. When he used the Trump Foundation to pay $5,000 to put an advertisement for the Trump International Hotel in D.C. into a program distributed at another charity’s fundraising event.

    7. When he used $32,000 of the Trump Foundation’s money to pay “stewardship” costs for a piece of property in Westchester County, New York, that he’d donated to a land preservation group (but only after attempting unsuccessfully to build a golf course and luxury housing on it).

    Trump may assail the attorneys general, but he was found GUILTY by a judge.

    You may try to spin the news, however, the fact of the matter is Trump misused charitable funds for his personal purposes. Trump used “Charitable gifts” as a means of elevating his public persona when in fact he could give a flying fuck for those less fortunate.

    He should be in jail.

  40. DerHundistLos on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 8:45 pm 

    Trump’s First 3 Years Created 1.5 Million Fewer Jobs Than Obama’s Last 3

    New Labor Department statistics show that despite Trump’s repeated boasts, job creation was a lot higher during Barack Obama’s final years.

    MANCHESTER, N.H. – As President Donald Trump takes the stage at his reelection rally here Monday and boasts of his economic record, there is one statistic he is likely to omit: He created 1.5 million fewer jobs in his first three years in office than predecessor Barack Obama did in his final three.

    Newly revised figures from Trump’s own Department of Labor show that 6.6 million new jobs were created in the first 36 months of Trump’s tenure, compared with 8.1 million in the final 36 months of Obama’s ― a decline of 19% under Trump.

  41. world supremacist muzzies lover all the way on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 8:49 pm 

    supertard der, i wish your new year is still full of happiness and muzzie free
    i’m all about peace love bro. i’m not here to cause u mental anguish

    but please could u tell me who brought all the lib urns? i can’t find any and i’ve been tryina buy for months now
    this sucks

    world supremacist muzzie bag day feb12021
    world grater nedertardland day 42 days away

  42. world supremacist muzzies lover all the way on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 10:12 pm 

    muzzie in uk practically begs for amputation
    posts video on youtube to kill kufar
    youtube responses with love muzzie 1000x

    this muzzie is budy of andy choudary

    i buy this muzzie $.10 unamputated, $.15 amputated. I’ll turn a profit

  43. world supremacist muzzies lover all the way on Mon, 10th Feb 2020 10:15 pm 

    muzzie akbar sayeed used low english devastating on students. muzzie employed command by muzzies to humiliate infidels, making them know their inferior dhimmi status.
    whitey supertard john brady died as a result, he committed suicide.

    muzzie akbar is pioneer in introducing low english (dogs, monkey, donkeys) into higher learning institution in the west

    students are very angry. they will become supertards and kill more muzzies.

  44. makati1 on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 12:35 am 

    Living wage jobs or dog walking jobs? You cannot rely on ANY numbers coming out of DC. The only real increase in wages is to the top 1%. Inflation and lies make up any GDP increases. Ditto, real unemployment(21), inflation (6%),GDP (-2%), etc. Yes, that is a MINUS 2% GDP. Obvious to anyone not brainwashed.

    http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/gross-domestic-product-charts

    Doesn’t matter who sleeps in the White House, the game is the same. The leveling of Amerika to 3rd world levels. A police state oligarchy.

  45. makati1 on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 12:37 am 

    “… real unemployment(21)…” should read:

    “… real unemployment(21%…”)

  46. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 3:20 am 

    You’re sure you want to marry that foreigner? You also marry her identity, that ticking time-bomb under your marriage.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7988769/Queens-eldest-grandson-Peter-Phillips-SPLITS-wife-Autumn-12-years-marriage.html

    “Queen is ‘upset’ as eldest grandson Peter Phillips ‘separates from his wife Autumn’ after 12 years of marriage – amid rumours she wants to return home to Canada following Megxit”

  47. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 3:51 am 

    “He should be in jail.”

    Well, OK, but shouldn’t Clintons and Obama? My God, Bill is a pedo. Hillary is a gangster. Trump’s largess are dwarfed by Clinton Foundation political machine. Obama’s last months in office are now coming under scrutiny for spying on a candidate and later the attempt to remove a sitting president by fraudulent means. There is no telling all of what happened in Ukraine. Biden needs to be in jail. John Kerry was likely in on something with Iran. There is the Uranium One sleaze deal. Yea, now we see the DNC and its political machine as snakes. Obama should be impeached. Yes, I heard a President does not have to be in office to be impeached. So, throw Trump in Jail but don’t do the usual double standard shit you extremist liberal practice. Put your beloved in jail too.

  48. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 3:53 am 

    More signs that BoJo doesn’t plan to pivot to the US after all:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/politics-explained/boris-johnson-brexit-cabinet-reshuffle-rees-mogg-leadsom-a9327426.html

    “Are the Brexiteers about to be kicked out of Boris Johnson’s cabinet?“

    Does the May deal have a second lease to life?

  49. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 3:54 am 

    “Doesn’t matter who sleeps in the White House, the game is the same. The leveling of Amerika to 3rd world levels. A police state oligarchy.”

    Another double standard hypocrite. Makato, loves to talk down the US and Up Asia. His Asia is falling apart before our eyes and not a peep out of the dumbass. The unreliability of Chinese data is in a whole other class but not a peep out of makato! lol.

  50. Davy on Tue, 11th Feb 2020 4:25 am 

    “You’re sure you want to marry that foreigner? You also marry her identity, that ticking time-bomb under your marriage.”

    More cloggo bullshit! Marriage is more than identity politics cloggo. You turn everything into Anglo derangement. It never stops with you. You move on to topic after topic and “Anglo derange” it. This problem with derangement shows a true weakness with your intellect.

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