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Collapse, you say?

Most of the writing I have done for this blog assumes that my readers are at the very least open to thinking about the collapse of our civilization, and more likely that they have already accepted it as probable and are interested in discussing the details of how it might happen and how to cope with it. But it is pretty clear to me that the general public, even in the midst of a global pandemic, are not ready to entertain the idea that civilization could collapse. If I bring up the idea, the response is most likely to be, “Collapse, you say? Surely not.”

There are a number of reasons for that attitude, the simplest being a cognitive bias against change—the feeling that tomorrow is likely to be pretty much like today. This is aided and abetted by a lot of propaganda about how great BAU (Business as Usual) really is and the progress it promises for the future. Indeed, we are told that there simply isn’t any better way of running the world than neo-liberal capitalism, no real alternatives at all. We’ve been told this for so long (at least the 30 years or so since the USSR fell) and so forcefully that most of the world’s population is experiencing an almost complete failure of imagination. And that is both a failure to imagine any better way of running things, and a failure to conceive what the consequences might be if we continue as we are.

Along with this, when the subject of collapse does come up, it is almost always discussed in terms of a hard and fast collapse—more of an apocalypse, really—which understandably stirs up such feelings of fear that people retreat into denial. But even minor suggestions of things like “degrowth” are not well received—we’ve been promised on-going progress, and any suggestion that a reduction in our consumption level, a little less comfort and convenience, might be in order, is met with consternation. You hear people saying that, if that’s what’s ahead of us, they’d rather be dead.

On the other hand, there are people like me who are convinced that the collapse of our civilization is either already happening or soon will be. Why do we think that?

It might be wise at this point to dig a little deeper into what I mean by “the collapse of our civilization”. Well, one characteristic of all civilizations is that their individual members are not entirely self sufficient—they rely at least to some extent on the mechanisms of production and distribution built into their civilization for the necessities of life. What those necessities might be varies with who you ask. My list includes air, water, food, housing, health care, education and meaningful work, all provided in a context where people feel that they belong, where help is available when you need it and where you have a role to play in helping others when they need it. Of course, there are many approaches to how these necessities are to be acquired, and various ideas about what constitutes enough.

In our “industrial” society, since the invention of heat engines powered by fossil fuels, the production and distribution of what is needed has largely been mechanized. Our population is hardly self sufficient at all—only very rarely do we make anything we need with our own hands. And only a very few people, living in the remotest locations are independent of this system. We have filled up essentially the whole world, and converted it to our uses, so that a return to subsistence agriculture or hunting and gathering would not be possible for most of us even if we wanted it, and most of us don’t.

When a civilization starts to collapse, its mechanisms of production and distribution begin to work less and less well. A decline in both population and complexity ensues. In our industrial society, where human and animal muscles have been largely replaced by machines powered by various forms of energy, there will also be a significant reduction in energy use and consumption of manufactured goods.

All this continues until the collapsing civilization either falls apart completely or overcomes its difficulties and recovers in a different form. In the past it often took hundreds of years for a civilization to collapse. My opinion is that our society started to collapse about 50 years ago and has a few decades, or at least years, left to go. But however long it may take to get to the end of the process, it is important to realize that, nowadays, collapse is going on around us all the time.

A scholarly expert on collapse might now offer some numerical measures to help us judge when a society has actually collapsed. I like to look at that a little differently, to turn it on its head, so to speak. I would say that if you, as an individual, are no longer being supplied with the necessities of life then for you collapse has already occurred, even though everything is going along quite normally for the people driving over the bridge that you are living under.

I seems to me that collapsing civilizations share some characteristics, and I can see those characteristics in events today:

  • One, collapse progresses slowly, so that if you’re viewing it from inside and it hasn’t hit you with any great force as yet, you may be hard pressed to recognize what is happening.
  • Two, collapse progresses uneven geographically—some places continue to do just fine while others fall apart disastrously. If you live in an area that is not yet affected, you may wonder what all the fuss is about, or at least think that while it’s tough for those other folks, it can’t happen to you.
  • Three, collapse progresses unsteadily in the chronological sense, with long periods where nothing much changes, separated by sudden steps downward. During those long quiet periods, you could be excused for thinking that everything is just fine because, at least on the surface, it is.
  • And four, collapse progresses unequally across social classes. The upper, ruling classes are in control (as much as anyone is) and have the wherewithal to direct resources to their own benefit, and away from the lower classes. And because they can get by just fine without knowing much at all about how things are going in the rest of society, they are often unaware that there is any sort of problem. Of course, when collapse finally does hit them, it is felt all the harder because they have never experienced hard times. For those at the bottom of the social ladder, collapse is just more of the same shit they’ve been putting up with all along.

Ideally, as an individual, family, or community in a collapsing civilization, you would like to be aware of what’s coming, prepare for it and eventually succeed in adapting to it. But as you can see from the four points I’ve just listed, this is difficult because it’s hard to tell what’s going on until it’s too late.

This started out as a simple, “one post topic”, but now it looks like it is going to take about five posts to clearly get across why I think collapse is happening and to have a look at what options we have and where this process is likely to take us:

  • This post, in which I’ve introduced the subject.
  • Two, in which I’ll look at the inputs and output of our civilization and what is wrong with the way they are being handled.
  • Three, in which I’ll look inside our civilization at its fundamental, structural weaknesses.
  • Four, in which we’ll look at how all this has been and continues to contribute to collapse.
  • And five, in which, we’ll look at several possibilities for our future—what the rest of this collapse may look like.

Irv Mills doomstead diner



206 Comments on "Collapse, you say?"

  1. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 3:18 am 

    Outside the Trump tower: MAGA bots vs BLM clowns

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7WH9V2pZWg

    “Fly over country 2.0”

    From here in Eurasia, smokey, feet on the table, leaning backwards, contemplating the enormous geopolitical opportunities that are about to arise for Eurasia.

    Life is good. God loves Euros after all.

  2. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:59 am 

    The old pre-1939 order is being restored:

    https://www.ed.nl/eindhoven/zuidoost-brabant-in-wereldtop-3d-printen-tno-philips-en-signify-vragen-veel-patenten-aan~a1afb3b0/

    European Patent Agency in Munich (I worked for them): between 2010-2019, Europe was ahead of the US and Asia in terms of # of patents.

    The pecking order in Europe is:

    1. München
    2. Barcelona
    3. Zürich
    4. Berlijn
    5. Eindhoven (my home town)

    Country patent ranking:

    1. Duitsland
    2. Frankrijk
    3. Verenigd Koninkrijk
    4. Nederland

  3. Davy on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 7:21 am 

    “GM Cutting Third Shift At Missouri Plant After Workers Fail To Show Up Due To COVID Fears”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gm-cutting-third-shift-missouri-plant-after-workers-fail-show-due-covid-fears

    “GM is on the verge of cutting its third shift at its mid-size truck assembly plant in Wentzville, Missouri after coronavirus fears have caused employees to stay home. Missouri reported its third largest daily increase in new cases of the virus and on Saturday, GM sent its plant workers an “urgent” notification informing them of the change to a two-shift operation.”

  4. makati1 on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 7:37 am 

    “GM Cutting Third Shift At Missouri Plant After Workers Fail To Show Up Due To COVID Fears”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gm-cutting-third-shift-missouri-plant-after-workers-fail-show-due-covid-fears

    “GM is on the verge of cutting its third shift at its mid-size truck assembly plant in Wentzville, Missouri after coronavirus fears have caused employees to stay home. Missouri reported its third largest daily increase in new cases of the virus and on Saturday, GM sent its plant workers an “urgent” notification informing them of the change to a two-shift operation.”

  5. SocialRevolutionComing on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 7:57 am 

    LOL

    Covid-19 : reconfinement dans plusieurs communes en Algérie
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfCfB_bBbac

  6. zero juan on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 9:36 am 

    “LOL Covid-19 : reconfinement dans plusieurs communes en Algérie
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfCfB_bBbac

    I don’t speak French. This is my personality that thinks he is in French Canada. Wait a minute since I hate the US so much why not move to Quebec? OH, I forgot I am a pussy and have issues with weather. Being in Miami Beach in a Condo with A/C most of the time means I like it here with the pusies.

  7. SocialRevolutionComing on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 10:08 am 

    Masks to become mandatory in Quebec
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV3aAU5yWNQ

    Fucking hilarious. This will happen through all of Canada. They are sending some subliminal message there is no hope, no future that it is time to abandon society and let is rot and burn down. They are also sending the message the Western civilization is dead forever. They are also seeding deep hatred toward governmental official making social revolution more likely and more violent. I love these stupid politicians, always making everything worse.

    These stupid dumb mother fucker think you can manage the world energy equations with COVID hoax. You cannot dumb mother fucker. More you keep this hoax going more people will abandon the system and less chances there will be a new civilization built.

    Continue dumb mother fucker, you make me laugh and entertain me.

    LLOOOOOOLLL

  8. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 10:51 am 

    “The Woke Revolution”

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/07/paul-craig-roberts/the-woke-revolution/

    The revolution is over unless the guillotine is next. Academic freedom no longer exists. Free speech no longer exists. The media is a propaganda ministry. Without free speech there can be no answer to denunciation. White people are guilty. Period.

    Liberal society is about to hit the iceberg. Reason: decades of sustained demographic transition kicking in. Non-whites feel now strong enough to revolt and pose abstract demands against “racism”, “oppression”, eventually to be compensated for financially.

    Expect a white counter revolt, just like the Trump already presidency was a “white lash”.

    When it comes to armed violence, I tip on the whites (“you go left, I go right, we’ll cut them off at the pass”).

    Trump could be the last president of the US, just like Gorbachev was the last president of the USSR. Splitting up in 15 pieces was next. The US probably less than 15. I bet: Alaska, SW, Heartland, SE, Upstate NY, New England. That’s 6. Perhaps a few more, like Seattle, Chicago.

  9. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 10:58 am 

    Boost for Trump:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/13/europe/poland-presidential-election-duda-result-intl/index.html

    “Trump ally Duda declared winner of Poland’s closely-run presidential race”

    “Duda, backed by the nationalist ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party, won with 51.21% of the vote, the country’s election committee said Monday. The more liberal Warsaw mayor Rafal Trzaskowski, of the center-right opposition Civic Platform party (PO), garnered 48.79%.”

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  11. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 11:16 am 

    New model from Georgia Tech. What’s the Covid risk from a crowd? If you’re in a group of 50 you have a:

    84% chance of being with someone infected if you’re in Atlanta

    98% chance if in Phoenix

    94% chance if in Austin

    Essentially 100% if in Charleston

    I guess the message is:
    Stay away from wingnuts

  12. Davy on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 12:20 pm 

    “Cat That’s Been Dead For 12 Years Gets A Voter Registration Application In The Mail”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cat-thats-been-dead-12-years-gets-voter-registration-application-mail

    “The family found the form addressed to their cat – who they say is a Democrat – in their mailbox mid-week last week. Cody was a “great cat, indoor and outdoor” who “loved his family, loved his neighborhood” and lived to the age of 18, according to its owner. But as it comes to his ability to vote and his voting record, even Tims had to admit: “He’s a cat and he’s been dead for a long time.”

  13. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 12:25 pm 

    “Cat That’s Been Dead For 12 Years Gets A Voter Registration Application In The Mail”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cat-thats-been-dead-12-years-gets-voter-registration-application-mail

    “The family found the form addressed to their cat – who they say is a Democrat – in their mailbox mid-week last week. Cody was a “great cat, indoor and outdoor” who “loved his family, loved his neighborhood” and lived to the age of 18, according to its owner. But as it comes to his ability to vote and his voting record, even Tims had to admit: “He’s a cat and he’s been dead for a long time.”

  14. JuanP on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 12:26 pm 

    so true Duncan so true

  15. JuanP on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 12:28 pm 

    “Boost for Trump: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/13/europe/poland-presidential-election-duda-result-intl/index.html

    So true Abraham van Helsing, so true

  16. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 3:15 pm 

    Roger Stone dancing his victory dance:

    https://twitter.com/bigangrylaw/status/1281789019152670720

    Expect him to play a prominent role in the reelection of the God-Emperor, just like the last-time.

  17. JuanP on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 3:48 pm 

    “US Rejects Chinese Claim To South China Sea In Major Reversal Of Obama-Era Appeasement”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-plans-reject-chinese-claims-south-china-sea-major-reversal-obama-era-appeasement

    “With the 4th anniversary of a landmark ruling by a UN tribunal fast approaching, the State Department is planning a major policy change that could swiftly lead to even more heightened military tensions between Washington and Beijing in one of the world’s most dangerous geopolitical powder kegs: the South China Sea. Since Trump’s inauguration, the Pentagon has stepped up Naval operations in the contested territory, and sent dozens, if not hundreds, of destroyer-class ships and others to engage in “Freedom of Navigation” operations – or “Freeops”, for short. Most recently, the US sent two aircraft carriers to the area to hold military exercises…while Chinese ships held exercises of their own nearby. In a copy of the draft statement reviewed by WSJ, the administration claims that China’s refusal to acknowledge the landmark ruling and continue with its claims of supremacy over the area poses “the single greatest threat to freedom of the seas in modern history.” “China’s maritime claims pose the single greatest threat to the freedom of the seas in modern history,” according to a draft seen by Journal. “We cannot afford to re-enter an era where states like China attempt to assert sovereignty over the seas,” the draft said. China’s territorial claims fall within what’s known as the nine-dash line, or the “Cow’s Tongue”, named for its peculiar shape. At the time of the 2016 ruling, the Obama Administration decided not to get involved, and official set America on a course of non-interference in the area. That changed almost as soon as Trump was inaugurated, as the president promised to reverse the Obama Administration’s policy of cooperation and appeasement in favor of a more resolute stance. The Trump Administration has recently stepped up its criticism of the region’s maritime claims. Even the Philippines, which initially brought the case against China to the Hague back in 2013, is no longer pressuring Beijing to obey the ruling, after President Rodrigo Duterte was elected with a mandate to negotiate directly with Beijing. Since the ruling, China has continued efforts to build artificial islands and fortify them with weaponry, leading to the creation of what Steve Bannon has described as “mobile aircraft carriers”. Bannon has repeatedly warned that China is the most pressing threat to American security and economic interests. While Beijing mostly just whines and complains when the US sends navy ships within 12 miles of the Spratly islands, we suspect the Foreign Ministry’s response once Washington confirms the policy change will be even more aggressive. Perhaps the decision might even spur the People’s Liberation Army-Navy to speed up their plans for fortification and weaponization, just like the initial ruling appears to have done.”

  18. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 5:00 pm 

    Duncan, I got my voter registration card in the mail just last week and I have been brain-dead for the last 20 years myself.

  19. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 5:10 pm 

    BetsyDeVosED you have no plan. Teachers, kids and parents are fearing for their lives. You point to a private sector that has put profits over people and claimed the lives of thousands of essential workers. I wouldn’t trust you to care for a house plant let alone my child.

    Smells pretty bad– Dims need to hold their noses- Repugs can use two hands.

  20. Abraham van Helsing on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 5:19 pm 

    James Howard Kunstler U-turn:

    He is going to vote for Trump to keep the Dems out!

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/position-statement/

    I’ve gotten a lot of letters and comments lately condemning my failure to go all-out against Mr. Trump. So, I’ll state my current position plainly: I didn’t vote for him last time, but I would vote for him this time to keep the Democratic Party out of power… I’m for strict control of the nation’s borders and frankly for reduced immigration. Globalism is clearly winding down and Mr. Trump’s drive to produce more of what we need here in America is in step with that reality.

    Bravo!

  21. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 5:58 pm 

    Moreover, even with a new government in charge, the pandemic will rage on. The damage from a disastrously poor initial response has already been done. Erosion of America’s political standing worldwide may slow, as other world leaders will no longer be tempted to make fun of the (new) US President behind his back, but the nation’s economy will likely continue to unravel as repercussions of the pandemic roil.

    Will not have the Fat Boy to make fun of—
    All elections have a down side.

  22. Justice Trump Style on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:03 pm 

    Roger Stone was found guilty by a jury of his peers on all seven felony charges including lying under oath, witness tampering, and falsification of evidence.

    Not surprisingly, Fat Orange gave his longtime confidant a pardon in exchange for keeping his mouth shut.

  23. Abraham von Cloggie on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:06 pm 

    Lol- who cares what the Kunt does except for Abraham von Cloggie who can’t vote in US elections anyway.

    His writings thus far have made all the difference in causing Trump to lose support across the board so keep it up.

  24. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:07 pm 

    I’m for strict control of the nation’s borders and frankly for reduced immigration.

    Abbey said and did it better, but Kunstler has come around.

    But with 7.7 billion humans in a collapsing ecosystem, it is in the rear view mirror.

  25. Davy on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:09 pm 

    Perfect!

    ‘Position Statement”
    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/position-statement/

    “I don’t buy the polls that show Mr. Biden ten points up on Mr. Trump. I suspect many actual voters were not pleased by the June reign of terror unleashed by Democratic mayors and governors, and did not fail to notice exactly how all that went down. And it is well-known now, four years after the last election and its janky polling, that many voters won’t reveal their true intentions to pollsters — fearing the vilification they’d invite. I’ve gotten a lot of letters and comments lately condemning my failure to go all-out against Mr. Trump. So, I’ll state my current position plainly: I didn’t vote for him last time, but I would vote for him this time to keep the Democratic Party out of power. There’s a lot to not love about Mr. Trump in his persona and manner. There’s a great deal more to fear about the prospect of Democratic Party control of government. Their enmity to free speech cannot be doubted after a decade of promoting cancel culture. Their appetite for coercion is at odds with the Bill of Rights. Their bad faith and dishonesty have been on display through all the concocted melodramas of RussiaGate and its offshoots. Their economic program is a mashup of all the failed central planning regimes from the bygone 20th century and is wholly inconsistent with the new imperatives to downscale and re-localize the real productive activities of daily life in this country.”

  26. Politico.com on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:10 pm 

    CORONAVIRUS

    ‘Everyone is lying’: Trump undercuts public health officials in fresh attacks

    Sharing tweets from a former game show host, the president prolonged his feud with Dr. Anthony Fauci and the CDC.

    ‘He Is and Always Will Be a Terrified Little Boy’

    Mary Trump indicts not just her uncle but her whole “malignantly dysfunctional” family. And that could give her new book a “seismic imprint.”

    politico.com

  27. Politico.com on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:12 pm 

    REPUBLICAN FUNDRAISING EMERGENCY

    ‘Adapt immediately or find a new job’: Senate GOP confronts fundraising emergency

    Nobody wants to donate to a lost cause.

  28. zero juan on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:14 pm 

    Lunatic:

    Abraham von Cloggie said Lol- who cares what the Kunt does except for Abrah…

    Justice Trump Style said Roger Stone was found guilty by a jury of his peer…

  29. REAL Green Hypocrite on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:15 pm 

    “I don’t buy the polls that show Mr. Biden ten points up on Mr. Trump.”

    You will, Kunt, in less than four months.

    I recorded this statement from the DavyTurd to revisit in November.

  30. zero juan on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:15 pm 

    lunatic

    Politico.com said REPUBLICAN FUNDRAISING EMERGENCY ‘Adapt immediatel…

    Politico.com said CORONAVIRUS ‘Everyone is lying’: Trump undercuts p…

  31. Davy on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:17 pm 

    Roger Stone, Trump’s closest confidant of many years, was found guilty by a jury of his peers on all seven felony charges including lying under oath, witness tampering, and falsification of evidence.

    Not surprisingly, Fat Orange subverted the will of the People by giving Stone a pardon in exchange for Stone keeping his mouth shut.

  32. REAL Green Hypocrite on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:19 pm 

    All this work engaging in ID theft and socks is time-consuming. How do I ever find the time to manage my 500 acre “working” goat ranch?

    Easy. You’re a disgusting liar.

  33. REAL Green Hypocrite on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:22 pm 

    Dearest Davy,

    Thinking of you…

    I feel scummy
    Oh, so scummy
    I feel scummy, and ugly and gay
    And I pity
    Any troll who isn’t me today

    I feel scummy
    Oh, so scummy
    It’s alarming how scummy I feel
    And so scummy
    That I hardly can believe I’m real

    See the scummy troll in that mirror there:
    Who can that scummy troll be?
    Such a lying face
    Such an ugly dress
    Such a hypocritical smile
    Such a scummy me!

  34. Davy on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:29 pm 

    Save us from Idaho’s people:

    “Save America From Cancel Culture”
    https://www.aier.org/article/save-america-from-cancel-culture/

    “One of the new fashionable phrases has become “cancel culture,” the idea that ideas, institutions, and people of the present as well of the past must be overturned and dethroned from legitimacy and acceptance in society, so as to expunge the injustices, cruelties, and insensitivities existing in current life and lingering over from history. “Cancel Culture” Would Destroy America’s Memory and Hope The “cancel culture” radicals, made up of the “politically correct,” the “identity politics” warriors, and “democratic” socialists, who all are dreaming dreams of a new tribal collectivism of mind control, political planning, and the social engineering of their own versions of a “new person,” want to wipe out any knowledge, memory, or belief in that American ideal about which people like Justice David J. Brewer or historian Hans Kohn attempted to explain both what it was and to argue its importance for Americans and all of humankind. (See my articles, “The Meaning and Mind of an American” and “Ad Hominems Against Freedom” and “Liberty is the Theme of the American Spirit”.) If the cancel culture destroyers win, then America will be no different than the rest of the world; a world filled with racial genocides, religious bigotries and wars, plundering despotisms, and political paternalisms that reduce human beings to expendable pawns on a great chessboard manipulated by others who arrogantly believe they know how we all should live and what each of us “really” deserves.”

  35. zero juan on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 6:30 pm 

    lunatic is jealous

    REAL Green Hypocrite said Dearest Davy, Thinking of you… I feel scummy…

    REAL Green Hypocrite said All this work engaging in ID theft and socks is ti…

    Davy said Roger Stone, Trump’s closest confidant of ma…

    REAL Green Hypocrite said “I don’t buy the polls that show Mr. Biden t…

  36. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 7:12 pm 

    “Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based on five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, and county commissioners.”

    ― Edward Abbey

  37. Duncan Idaho on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 7:24 pm 

    “Texans may not like the libs very much, but this is so stupid and crazy even they are balking at letting this weirdo run the country anymore”
    https://digbysblog.net/2020/07/texas-in-play/

  38. FamousDrScanlon on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 7:54 pm 

    Davy, this is not Americas first cancel culture rodeo. They had one last century, but that one was a strictly conservatard lead hysterical witch hunt. Perhaps you’ve heard of it – McCarthyism?

    This libtard version ain’t exactly a recent development. Been building up for years.

    ” If the cancel culture destroyers win, then America will be no different than the rest of the world; a world filled with racial genocides, religious bigotries and wars, plundering despotisms, and political paternalisms that reduce human beings to expendable pawns on a great chessboard manipulated by others who arrogantly believe they know how we all should live and what each of us “really” deserves.”

    Inaccurate, hyperbolic & corny as fuck. What do they have 9 year old, leave it to beaver, boy scouts writing this trash?

    I don’t think there’s an American left who see’s shades of grey. Just black & white cartoon villains & heroes.

    An entire nation has regressed back to kindergarten.

    Two-Thirds of U.S. Christians Believe COVID-19 Is a Message From God

    “Ralph Drollinger — the pastor who leads a weekly bible study group for members of President Donald Trump’s Cabinet — has a few ideas. In a blog post entitled “Is God Judging America Today?” Drollinger appeared to blame the coronavirus pandemic on several groups, including those who have “a proclivity toward lesbianism and homosexuality,” environmentalists and those who deny the existence of God for igniting “God’s wrath.”

    Still, I can’t seem to shake this nagging suspicion that old Ralph might be using the Bible to reinforce his own ideas and prejudices. Lots of Christians boldly declare that the wrath of God has been completely satisfied through Jesus, but then they still like to whip out the “wrath” card when it suits them for the purpose of perpetuating their own fears and biases. Sure, it’s not like God will flood the whole world again to punish all the wicked sinners, as he did in the days of Noah, but hey… global pandemics are still on the cards for God — at least according to Pastor Ralph.”

    https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/two-thirds-of-u-s-christians-believe-covid-19-is-a-message-from-god/

  39. Davy on Mon, 13th Jul 2020 8:11 pm 

    I am not jealous. And stop stealing my sock puppets.

    fuckwak

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  41. Davy on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 12:03 am 

    Welcome back Apeman. We missed you a lot. We need fresh blood hear real bad.. So don’t go away sga this time.

    Old freind…

  42. GregT on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 1:47 am 

    Davy on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 12:03 am

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    Old freind…

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  43. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 3:07 am 

    I AM THE MOB = Duncan Idaho = FamousDrScanlon = Apneaman = Abraham van Cloggie

    Poisoner of the well.

  44. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 3:14 am 

    “US declares ‘most’ of China’s maritime claims in South China Sea illegal”

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/13/politics/south-china-sea-pompeo-announcement/index.html

    The US locking horns with China, the best thing that could happen from a European perspective. From an Australian not so much. May the best gorilla win.

  45. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 3:31 am 

    Corona instilled a Soviet mentality among the work force. Bye-bye yuppie-dom and the rat race and ambition! We want holiday forever!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8519469/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Fire-Quattro-Boris-lets-Britain-work.html

    “RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Britain’s cities will never recover while people are happier slobbing about at home than going back to work”

    It is not entirely clear who is going to pay for retirement at 35:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8520529/UK-rely-inflation-tackle-2trillion-debt-pile-decades.html

    “Britain will either have to raise taxes or cut spending to pay £2TRILLION covid bill: New head of the government’s OBR watchdog warns UK can’t rely on inflation to pay off debt over decades”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8520455/Start-recovery-UK-economy-grew-1-8-cent-May.html

    “So much for a quick recovery: Shares slump as figures show UK economy grew by just 1.8 per cent in May as lockdown eased after dropping 25%”

    All the ingredients are in place for a healthy, thorough collapse. Nothing to do with peak oil. Corona is the fuse that ignites the social time bomb of diversity and fights over distribution on wealth.

    Oh wait, the stumbling witch has arisen from her wheelchair throwing more oil onto the fire:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8520363/Hillary-Clinton-says-ready-possibility-Trump-not-quietly.html

    “Hillary Clinton says the United States must ‘be ready’ for the possibility that Donald Trump will not ‘go quietly’ from the White House if he loses in November and may blame mail-in votes”

    Nice opportunity to read up on old political theories in order to create, well, a new order.

  46. Cloggie on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 3:53 am 

    Global Britain latest:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8519621/HMS-Queen-Elizabeth-sent-Far-East-military-drills-Japan.html

    “Big Lizzie will confront China: £3bn aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth ‘will be deployed to the Far East to take part in military drills with US and Japan'”

    Britain matters again. Together with the preferred ally USA against the Red Dragon. Batman and Robin.

    The “right-wing” reader comments are not convinced, not that they wouldn’t like to see a “Britain ruling the waves”. But at least they have a sense of reality, much unlike the yanks:

    BillLoni2, LoniLand, United Kingdom, 8 hours ago

    The once great Royal Navy is now a joke, it is crippled with political correctness and cowardice and not fit for purpose.

    Pro: 474
    Con: 64

    Simon, South East, United Kingdom, 8 hours ago

    Probably loaded with Huawei equipment knowing our defence procurement people!

    Pro: 356
    Con: 62

    Moogabee, Cardiff, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago

    How would we and the US feel if China and Russia conducts military drills near our waters? – talk about escalating the situation.

    Pro: 151
    Con: 52

    The USSR couldn’t have Eastern Europe after 1945 without massive sacrifice. If China wants to have Australia and dominate the Pacific in the 21st century, it will need to stick its neck out and defeat the Anglo dragon on its doorstep.

    https://www.maritime-executive.com/index.php/article/australian-warship-joins-u-s-exercise-in-south-china-sea

    “Australian Warship Joins U.S. Exercise in South China Sea”

    Australia committing exactly the blunder, Australia’s most senior politician Malcolm Fraser had warned against:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/01/02/america-australias-dangerous-ally/

    “America: Australia’s Dangerous Ally”

  47. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 4:11 am 

    “South China Sea: US ships ready for war as China flexes muscles”

    “US aircraft carriers are practising war in the South China Sea. China’s navy is doing the same. What could possibly go wrong?”

    https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/south-china-sea-us-ships-ready-for-war-as-china-flexes-muscles/news-story/9ed1a4c49dfbca02b9a86db05843b27f

    “Beijing’s state-controlled Global Times news service declared: “Any US aircraft carrier movement in the region is at the pleasure of the PLA (People’s Liberation Army).””

    I’m launching here again a theory that sounds outlandish at first. What if Trump really is a closet white nationalist, whose only concern is to save US whitey from ZOG and diversity? If so he could think exactly like I do: take your losses and bring yourself in safety, mostly from Washington and its deep state. Bringing yourself into safety means secession from Washington and splitting the US up and create one or more white ethno-states.

    How would you do that?

    If you preach so openly, expect the US deep state elite to organize a coup against Trump in order to keep the US tax farm together for George Carlin’s “it’s a big club and you ain’t in it”. A far better strategy would be to maneuver the US into war with China, with the intention of LOSING THAT WAR. Bring a large part of the US army outside the US in the hope that whitey, faced between the risks of dying in East Asia or start that uprising at home, will do the latter.

  48. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 4:54 am 

    Massive rebounce Chinese exports, June 2020 was 0.5% higher than June 2019:

    https://www.manager-magazin.de/politik/weltwirtschaft/chinas-aussenhandel-staerker-als-vor-einem-jahr-a-2f9edd7a-bac6-4468-9d9f-b87ede97924d#ref=rss

    Imports too, which is good news for the EU and Germany in particular.

  49. Davy on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 5:25 am 

    Abraham van Helsing = Cloggo = cloggnatzi = Arthur.

    Poisoner of PO.com

  50. Abraham van Helsing on Tue, 14th Jul 2020 5:39 am 

    Go suck up to apneaman, your boss, you pathetic traitor of your own blood, children and general loser. You can’t even run to Italy as your former wife figured you out right in time.

    Enjoy the collapse you have been craving for since 2005 or longer. Say hello to the bros of St. Louis-East from me.

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