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Adrift In An Airship

General Ideas

The collective confusions we’ve been exploring since I returned from January’s break form a tangled web, and no one loose end leads straight to the heart of it. It so happens that in recent months I’ve had the chance to explore it from yet another angle, by way of the research I’ve been doing for an unexpected project of mine.

Readers of my Dreamwidth journal will be aware of this, but those who simply follow this blog may not yet have heard that I’ve been asked by a game publisher to create a roleplaying game based on my fantasy series with tentacles, The Weird of Hali. I’m pleased to report that the game’s squamous and rugose bulk is slithering toward you—yes, you!—with uncanny speed, reaching out hungry pseudopods…well, you get the idea. The working draft is already in the hands of the publisher; editorial feedback, playtesting to destruction, and frantic editing will follow, and with any luck it’ll be unleashed on a world trembling with dread in early 2020.

One of the things I’ve been doing to try to make the game as good as possible is to read a bunch of current RPGs, in the hopes of getting a sense of where roleplaying games have gone in the years since I played regularly, admiring (and drawing inspiration from) the things that work, and wincing at (and being warned by) the things that don’t. I’ve had plenty of both experiences, though by and large the admiration has been the more common of the two—there are a lot of really good games out there these days.

I didn’t expect any of this research to cast light on the cultural politics of our era, much less to explain at long last why the Left can’t meme and why Hollywood has churned out so many politically correct flops since Donald Trump’s election. Still, that’s what happened, courtesy of one of the RPGs I picked up in the course of my research. I have no desire whatsoever to upset the designer or the publisher of the game in question, nor to do anything that might deprive it of so much as a single sale, so I’ll call it Airship Heroes (not its real name), pretend that it’s a steampunk-themed game (which it isn’t), and swap out other details as needed to provide everyone involved with as much plausible deniability as they could wish. The points I hope to make ought to be just as clear that way as any other.

What makes Airship Heroes an unintentional commentary on the cultural politics of our era isn’t the game itself – it uses a good workmanlike set of game mechanics and stats – but the setting, which is discussed at great length in the rulebook. Like a lot of RPGs these days, it takes place in an alternative history; in this case, it’s one where the great European and transatlantic wars of the late 18th and early 19th centuries didn’t happen, because those sinister arachnids, the Spider Lords of Shambhala, burst out of their warrens deep under Central Asia’s mountains in 1751 and attempted to conquer the world. Fortunately, Colonel George Washington ambushed a Spider Lord detachment in the forests of western Pennsylvania, capturing their weapons and gear, and Benjamin Franklin was able to reverse-engineer the Spider Lords’ lightning guns. Once human warriors were equipped with high-tech weapons, the war turned in humanity’s favor, and by 1786 the Spider Lords had been driven back into their Central Asian refuges.

In the aftermath of the war, access to captured Spider Lord technology drove a rapid expansion of human scientific and technical knowledge, leading to your common or boiler-room variety steampunk setting:  airships cruising the skies, Victorian technology going for baroque all over the place, and so on. That much is pretty straightforward. In the aftermath of the war, though, the rulebook has it that people in all the good countries—we’ll get to the others in a bit—up and discarded all their ethnic and gender prejudices, freed the slaves, gave women equal rights, and embraced liberal socially progressive democracy.  Not only that, the good countries all stopped fighting each other and sent delegates to the League of Good Countries, based in Lisbon, which settled all disputes peacefully. Not only that, but nearly everyone in the good countries have adopted all the values of early 21st century upper middle class European liberal culture. So by 1845, the year in which the game is set, there are happy, peaceful, socially progressive industrial democracies in all the good countries of the world.

The bad countries? Well, the number one bad country is the Russian Empire, and the Russian Empire in 1845 is an evil capitalist plutocracy. And why has the deeply religious, agrarian, and still largely medieval Russia of 1845 up and morphed into a capitalist plutocracy? Because the rulebook says so, that’s why. (My guess is that what’s behind it is the sort of thinking that Alfred Korzybski used to critique so trenchantly:  if capitalist plutocrats are all evil people, then all evil people must be capitalist plutocrats. QED!) The Russians fought alongside the good countries in the war against the Spider Lords, to be sure, but since they’re evil capitalist plutocrats we can assume that when Colonel Sodoff of the Imperial Russian Guard shows up in happy, peaceful, socially progressive industrial democracies like Ruritania and Paphlagonia and South Absurdistan, he’s Up To No Good.

So there are the Russians. There are the Spider Lords, who are still down there in their caverns under the mountains of central Asia, plotting Conquest of the World 2.0. There are dinosaurs—Baron Cuvier’s famous airship expedition to the Matto Grosso in 1832 discovered a whole ecosystem of big saurians there, and since then they’ve been exported to various other tropical regions because diplodocus steaks are just too good to pass up. And there are the captains and crews of classic steampunk-style airships, who go toddling around the planet looking for wrongs to right, nations that haven’t quite gotten around to joining the League of Good Countries yet, dinosaurs to lunch on, the sinister machinations of Colonel Sodoff to foil, or the even more sinister machinations of the Spider Lords of Shambhala to contend with. These captains and crews are the Airship Heroes of the game, and you get to play one of them.

And this is where the net draws tight. The Airship Heroes rulebook has some highly specific suggestions about how adventures ought to be handled. The game, it says, is based on the kind of lighthearted Victorian adventure novels in which the protagonists single-handedly liberate whole nations, defeat sinister conspiracies, solve insoluble problems while you wait, achieve the impossible and unscrew the inscrutable. That’s the way the game is designed to be played:  the tone positive, the characters triumphant, complex moral issues and gritty realities banished from sight so that the good people can go their merry way saving the world from the bad people.

If that’s the kind of thing you want from a roleplaying game, dear reader, then Airship Heroes will probably be right up your alley. Even if that’s not the kind of thing you want, it’s a good solid game, and you won’t have to work too hard to tweak things to your liking. I suspect, in fact, that a lot of people who pick up Airship Heroes will either tinker with the setting or replace it with one that provides opportunities for more interesting play. The difficulty with the kind of upbeat, triumphant, morally-one-dimensional-to-the-point-of-cartoonishness setting that Airship Heroes provides, after all, can be summed up easily: it doesn’t take too many games before “Oh, look, there’s Colonel Sodoff again, how will we triumph heroically over him this time?” gives way to “Ho hum, there’s Colonel Sodoff again, I’m not sure I care how we will triumph heroically over him this time.”

That is to say, for most people, that sort of thing very soon becomes dull.

In an important sense, it’s not Victorian adventure fiction that Airship Heroes resembles most, but a different branch of the literature of that era:  the vast profusion of improving stories of virtue rewarded and vice rebuked, which were churned out in such profusion while Victoria sat on Britain’s throne and fell into such richly deserved oblivion thereafter. By page five or so, you know which characters are good people and which are bad people, and from there on the story unfolds mechanically; the incidents may vary but the plot never does.  The fine details of the moral preachments have changed from that time to this, but the basic tone—upbeat, triumphant, morally one-dimensional, and rather dreary—is the same as you’ll get when you climb aboard with Captain Goody Twoshoes and her stereotypically diverse crew to become an Airship Hero.

It’s also the same tone you’ll get from a flurry of recent Hollywood movies that were supposed to be blockbusters and turned into world-class flops. All of them have the same basic structure as Airship Heroes, or for that matter of any improving Victorian tale of virtue rewarded and vice rebuked.  You’ve got the good people being good because they’re good people, you’ve got the bad people being bad because they’re bad people, the bad people try to do something bad to the good people, and the good people win because they’re the good people, that’s why.

Throw in lavish cinematography and way too many special effects, get the paid reviewers to cough up the usual fulsome praise, and (ahem) you’re good – well, except that you may just find out that you had everyone on board but the audience, who yawned and stayed home. This is why the phrase “get woke, go broke” has become so well known among moviegoers and the less politically correct critics.  It’s also why I expect any day now to hear that a group of young, brash, politically conservative venture capitalists have funded a new moviemaking studio which will be located just outside Branson, Missouri, which will produce films that won’t be subject to the rigid social-justice dogmatism that rules Hollywood these days, and which in ten years or so will be where all the hot young talent is headed because the Hollywood studios just keep doubling down on a series of failed formulae.

This is basically what happened, after all, to the presidential ambitions of Hillary Clinton. For that matter, there’s something eerily appropriate in the image of Clinton as the captain of a dirigible in Airship Heroes, chugging through the skies high above one flyover state after another, in a state of serene and almost schizophrenic detachment from the gritty, morally complex realities down there on the ground, with her stereotypically diverse crew striking suitably triumphant poses around her and the clouds drifting lazily by. Her campaign was all about the good people being good because they’re good people, and the deplorables being deplorable because they’re deplorable—and there, too, the audience yawned and stayed home.

At this point, let’s fire up the engines on our own airship and head for the grim mountains of Central Asia where the Spider Lords lurk, because there’s a lesson to be learned from their really rather impressive dullness. Our pilot on this journey will be Arthur Koestler, a brilliant Hungarian writer who died in 1983. Among Koestler’s most influential books was The Act of Creation, which presented a theory of creativity that casts an important ray of light on the odd psychology we’ve been exploring for the last several months.

We can begin making sense of Koestler’s insights by considering jokes. The basic structure of humor is a collision between incompatible meanings; the setup prepares the listener to take what’s happening in one way, and then the punch line redefines it in a different way. The shock of the sudden change is what makes it funny. Puns show this in a particularly clear form, but it’s present in every kind of humor. Think of the confrontation between King Arthur and the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Arthur approaches the fight with one set of meanings in mind, the Black Knight does so with a completely different set, and the collision between them generates the high absurdity and hilarity of the scene.

The same thing on a more serious plane is the underlying structure of scientific discovery. At the heart of Isaac Newton’s magisterial work on gravity was a simple insight born of just such a collision. Throw a stone and it arcs downward until it hits the ground. What if the stone is the size of the Moon, and it’s high enough and moving fast enough that as it falls toward the ground, the ground falls away just as quickly due to the curvature of the Earth? That’s an orbit. The moon is a falling rock:  that’s the insight, a dizzying realization that connected two worlds of meaning and made new sense of both of them.

The same thing, finally, is also what makes good literature. Let’s take Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice as an example. You’ve got Elizabeth Bennett, the female lead, and Fitzwilliam Darcy, the male lead. They meet, he behaves rudely, she takes an understandable dislike to him; they keep on running into each other, he notices that she’s considerably more than the dull country girl he thought she was and he starts to fall for her, but by then her opinion of him is set and she won’t give him the time of day; around we go, until eventually his pride and her prejudice break down in the face of their mutual attraction, and they live happily ever after.

Notice what’s going on here: each of the main characters is contending with a collision between meanings. Is Mr. Darcy a conceited snob, or is he the man she’s been waiting for?  That’s what Elizabeth has to figure out. Is Elizabeth just one more dull country girl, or is she the woman he’s been waiting for? That’s what Darcy has to figure out—and those aren’t the only meanings that collide, of course, or the only two characters who are caught up in their complexities, because Austen is far too good a writer to leave it at that. In her books, contending meanings dance and flirt and talk and snub one another like characters at the assembly ball in Meryton.

In order to have a collision between meanings, though, you’ve got to have more than one possible meaning. That’s where Airship Heroes, and those recent Hollywood flops, and the presidential ambitions of Hillary Clinton all land with an audible thud, because none of them permit more than a single meaning for anything in their world. In Airship Heroes, the good people are good people, full stop, end of sentence; they all share the same attitudes and values because those are the right attitudes and values, full stop, end of sentence; the member states of the League of Good Countries all get along, despite occasional misunderstandings and the sinister machinations of Russian capitalist plutocrats and the Spider Lords of Shambhala, because they’re good countries, full stop, end of sentence.

And the problem with Colonel Sodoff and the Spider Lords—well, besides the fact that they sound like a British acid rock band from the Seventies—is that they don’t even have their own meanings. They exist solely because the good people and the good countries and the good Airship Heroes need someone to triumph heroically over, again and again and again. The Russian Empire isn’t a capitalist plutocracy for any reason rooted in Russia’s long and rich history; no, it’s a capitalist plutocracy because that’s the horns and tail and red long johns in which this game tricks out some of its devils. For their part, the Spider Lords of Shambhala don’t even achieve the two-dimensionality of a cardboard cutout. They lurch mindlessly through their mechanical conquer-the-world routine because that’s the meaning they’ve been assigned.

And that, my children, is why the words “That’s not funny!” in an angry and censorious tone have been the punch line of any number of jokes at the expense of the far left since before I was born. It’s why, as the merry pranksters of the alt-Right like to say, the Left can’t meme, and why the alt-Right itself seems to be turning into the nucleus of the next radical youth counterculture just now. It’s why Hollywood keeps on throwing away tens of millions of dollars on dreary little morality plays, because the studios have lost track of the fact that effective storytelling depends on moral complexity and the collision of equally potent meanings, and they thought they could make up for it by larding the product with enough special effects and admiring themselves for parading their social-justice wokeness.

It’s also why Hillary Clinton isn’t President of the United States right now, and why her former supporters are gearing up to make all the same mistakes in 2020 that she and they made in 2016. One of the reasons I was able to predict in January of 2016 that Donald Trump would win the upcoming election was that the Clinton campaign, then just beginning to hit its stride, was very nearly a carbon copy of the campaign she’d run so unsuccessfully in 2008. Learning from your mistakes is perhaps the most basic form of the collision of meanings Arthur Koestler talked about: here’s the meaning you thought your actions had, here’s the meaning your failure has just revealed to you, and by comparing them you might be able to do better next time. That doesn’t seem to be something Hillary Clinton knows how to do, and a great many people on her side of the political landscape apparently don’t know how to do it either.

There’s good reason for that.  If your worldview only allows things to have a single meaning, then the shock that comes from the collision between incompatible meanings isn’t something you will ever get to experience – and it’s out of that shock, as Koestler showed, that creativity and insight are born. Every time some member of the liberal establishment insists at the top of her well-exercised lungs that anyone who disagrees with [insert liberal establishment dogma here] is a [insert insult here], rather than listening to the people who disagree with it and finding out why, a chance for that collision of meanings goes away, and takes another electoral vote with it. We’ll see a little over a year and a half from now just how much that matters.

Ecosophia by John Michael Greer



44 Comments on "Adrift In An Airship"

  1. makati1 on Thu, 4th Apr 2019 6:24 pm 

    Change, even contemplating it, is difficult, if not impossible, for the brainwashed American sheeple. The circus sideshow of freaks and clowns called “the US government” just keeps getting more insane every day. We can only hope that the US melts down before it can start a nuclear war. Fingers crossed! Buckle up! LOL

  2. Davy on Thu, 4th Apr 2019 6:34 pm 

    “Zombified Economy: What Will The Next Recession Look Like?”
    http://tinyurl.com/y5xhzlb9 monymavin

    “Conditions are radically different than in 2007 and 2000. The Fed re-blew a housing price bubble but the number of jobs tied to construction, sales, CDOs, agents and even the impact on banks is a shell of what happened then. Technology is bubbly, but not like 2000. This is how I see things. We will not have bank failures in the US. There will be major bank failures or bail-ins in Europe. Housing will not have a major role but will strengthen the recession. Millennials simply cannot afford houses so housing will not lead a Fed attempt at a recovery even if interest rates plunge. Low interest rates will keep zombie companies alive for a while longer . Proliferation of retail stores, Walmart, Target, everything requires minimum staffing levels no matter how poor sales become. Unemployment will not rise much like last time. Instead, expect to see hours cut.Also expect for many of those currently working two jobs to lose one of them. Retail sales will plunge with the reduction in work. The impact of the above is very weak profits but not massive labor disruption Stocks will get clobbered as earnings take a huge hit. Junk bonds also get clobbered on fears of rolling over debt. This malaise can potentially last for years.”

    “Zombified Economy Japan is in a state of zombification and Europe is on the verge. The US may not and likely will not go through Japanese-like extremes just yet. However, the demography setup is poor, the student debt problem is a huge overhang, boomers unprepared for retirement is a huge overhang, and pensions are a huge overhang. Democrats may win the next election and massively hike taxes. That will not help either. Finally, the Fed only has room to cut by 240 basis points or so. Negative interest rates don’t help as proven by the ECB and the Bank of Japan.”

  3. Peak Oil Ombudsman on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 12:56 am 

    The moment my eyes glazed over about two paragraphs in to this meandering sack of shit, I knew this must be a Greer production, and I was right.

    Greer tries oh so hard to convince us of his superior and sophisticated intelligence, instead he comes off as a freakish clown.

    Greer and Kunt are working hard to pry money out of the Trumptardian conspiracy theory crowd. Just one problem, they don’t got the $$$$$. They need to parade their newly found bona fides before The Heritage Foundation or one of their many conservatard incarnations for a regular paycheck

  4. Cloggie on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 1:21 am 

    “The Russians fought alongside the good countries in the war against the Spider Lords”

    The druid-loon at it again. Why don’t you flush yourself through the toilet of history, Greer.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Michael_Greer

  5. Cloggie on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 1:28 am 

    The last days of the West.

    The Brexit idiocy in its last death throws

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6888031/Attorney-General-defends-inviting-Jeremy-Corbyn-Brexit-talks.html

    “May to ask EU for Brexit delay TODAY: PM requests ‘long’ extension to Article 50 to prevent No Deal next week in letter to Tusk – but wants get-out clause to go on May 22 if she can do deal with Corbyn”

    Oh, not again one of these trips to Brussels, the kiss with Juncker. Brussels has made clear all along: you will only get an extension if you can show us a deal.

    It is not impossible that she will reach agreement with “The Marxist”, but it is not likely. The Tories are more divided than Labour. Corbin is a Brexiteer himself, more so than May. He wants the head of May, the Tories falling apart and use the classical Marxist Verelendungstheory

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immiseration_thesis

    …to overthrow Europe’s last class society and create his economic (but nor racial!) Marxist Valhalla. And destroy J-power. Nationalism from the Left. British white nationalists could be better off with Corbin than with BoJo. A U-turn from Blairite New Labour:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/30/labour-immigration-u-turn-corbyn

  6. Cloggie on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 1:48 am 

    Even the BBC could not help but interpreting the event as a bad omen for British politics and parliament in particular:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6886495/MPs-forced-halt-debates-water-floods-Commons-chamber.html

    “Next, the locusts? The Commons is FLOODED by a leak forcing MPs to abandon debate as deluge pours into chamber amidst Brexit chaos”

    Britain has completely lost its mojo. Brexit is a farce, it is a desperate nostalgia for an era that is long history and Britain mattered. If a no-deal Brexit occurs, Britain could become the next Venezuela, especially if they refuse to pay the 39B divorce bill, giving the EU the excuse for an economic blockade.

    The most likely way to prevent a no-deal Brexit is a 2nd referendum, where the British electorate can be expected to vote for the May-deal. It is the only way out, since Britain no longer has a government worth mentioning.

    Together with the political drama unfolding in the US, we can safely predict the demise of Anglosphere as the dominant geopolitical club since Waterloo-1815, not coincidentally going hand-in-hand with the fossil fuel era. Britain-coal, USA-oil.

    WW1 was born out of the British desire for the Project of the New British Century (PNBC). It left Europe in ruins and the NBC didn’t happen.

    WW2 was the (((US))) exploitation of the Versailles situation in Europe, in order to setup the kosher-run empire known as the West, dedicated to the destruction of the white biosphere, because the enemies of said biosphere have taken over the house. They succeeded because they were able to interject a half-American Trojan Horse Winston Churchill, willing to do the bidding of the US, rather than of the British Empire.

    WW3 will be the complete erasure of the Anglo phenomenon from history, at the hands of Eurasia and Anglo white nationalism. Anglos either become European or mongrelize themselves out of existence.

    Expect Britain to lose 1/3 of its territory from a seceding Scotland, thanks to no-deal Brexit, that was an independent country since the Roman era until the 18th century.

    Expect Down-Under to change hands for a fourth time (Holland-Britain-US) and become Chinese, with resident Anglos fleeing to the planetary North… Canada, Britain, Heartland-USA.

    Expect North-America to balkanize after CW2, when the white North-American biosphere will seek secession and team up with PBM, this time as a de facto junior partner.

  7. makati1 on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 2:13 am 

    “In the U.S. we are literally on life support, plugged into the electric grid. If somebody unplugs us, everything necessary to sustain life stops: food, water, fuel, transportation, medical care, communications, financial – everything.

    The grid is vulnerable to numerous threats. The U.S. Senate said that in a long-term nation-wide blackout, millions of citizens could die. After a few weeks, we would die in droves from waterborne diseases, starvation, and societal collapse. What if the grid went down for longer than a few weeks?”

    https://www.theorganicprepper.com/michael-mabee-grid-threats/

    “…the reason the U.S. electric grid is such a fat juicy target to Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea is precisely because they know we are not prepared.”

    The US will NEVER be prepared for any catastrophe. Too much corruption and greed. So be it.

  8. Davy on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 2:59 am 

    “In the U.S. we are literally on life support, plugged into the electric grid. If somebody unplugs us, everything necessary to sustain life stops: food, water, fuel, transportation, medical care, communications, financial – everything.”

    Pretty much the case in most places makato and where it is not the unplugging would flood the countryside with desperate urbanites like in your P’s. This is just more anti-American extremism from makato

  9. Davy on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 3:24 am 

    Looks like Asia has a food problem:

    “Food Crisis 2019: African Swine Fever Outbreak Devastates Global Pig Population, Pork Prices Skyrocket” http://tinyurl.com/y4lh5ghy
    Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog

    “An absolutely devastating disease is wiping out herds of pigs all over Asia, and most people in the western world don’t even realize what is happening. Since it was first detected last August, there have been 116 officially reported outbreaks of African Swine Fever in China, and since that time it has rapidly spread to surrounding nations such as Cambodia and Vietnam. African Swine Fever is not harmful to humans, but the vast majority of the pigs that catch it end up dead. It spreads very quickly and there is no cure, and this outbreak has already driven global pork prices through the roof. If this crisis continues to escalate, we are potentially talking about a crippling blow to global food production.”

  10. makati1 on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 4:02 am 

    “Looks like America has a food problem:”

    “A Looming Crisis on American Farms”
    https://www.farmaid.org/issues/farm-economy-in-crisis/looming-crisis-american-farms/
    “America’s Dairy Farms Are in Crisis and the Farm Bill Won’t Help”
    https://talkpoverty.org/2018/06/07/americas-dairy-farms-crisis-farm-bill-wont-help/
    “Debt, Default Put US Farms, Farmers in Trouble”
    https://financialtribune.com/articles/world-economy/36912/debt-default-put-us-farms-farmers-in-trouble
    “As more US farmers near retirement, who will replace them?”
    https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2019/0401/As-more-US-farmers-near-retirement-who-will-replace-them
    “The Midwest flooding has killed livestock, ruined harvests and has farmers worried for their future”
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/21/us/floods-nebraska-iowa-agriculture-farm-loss/index.html
    “The Midwest’s floods are catastrophic. What happens once catastrophe is commonplace?”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-midwests-floods-are-catastrophic-what-happens-once-catastrophe-is-commonplace/
    “US weather: Midwest braces for further floods after deadly storms hit Nebraska and Iowa”
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/midwest-flooding-nebraska-iowa-missouri-river-us-weather-a8840046.html

    Mother Nature just bombed the US and is loading up for another run. Finger pointing Davy? Mike Snyder is a politician, not a good source of unbiased facts. Funny, Swine fever is not in any ASIAN countries except China.

    BTW: when this breakout occurred in 2009, the US was heavily infected. Best not throw stones. You live in a thin glass house. LOL

  11. makati1 on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 4:13 am 

    BTW Davy, you keep telling us how bad it will be here in the Philippines when the SHTF, but you never give any references, just bullshit.

    You want it to be worse than the shithole you live in, but it will be much better. The electric grids here are new, not antiques like in the US. They are constantly building new ones all over the country. When has the US built a new power grid? Not for decades. American electric companies only do minimum maintenance, not upgrades.

    WIKI:
    US kWh per capita in 2015 = 12,071 per year. 1,377 watts per person.
    Ps kWh per capita in 2016 = 885 per year. 101 watts per person.

    Now, tell me again who is going to suffer most without electric? LMAO

  12. Cloggie on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 6:23 am 

    Swedish populists no longer want a Swexit, after observing the Brexit drama over the past three:

    http://m.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/schweden-wie-der-brexit-den-swexit-verhindert-hat-a-1260972.html

    Like most other rightwingers in Europe they now want a rightwing EU instead. And they will get it.

  13. Davy on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:00 am 

    “Looks like America has a food problem:”

    Not yet makato but we are heading that way. Your links are lame in regards to making your point. Rain makes grain and we have silos full all over the country. Grain prices will go up to contribute to your food inflation in Asia is probably the immediate point

  14. Davy on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:05 am 

    makato, the US will take a grid down hard but your P’s will be as bad or worse. Get out of your dream world. You are food importers of the basics and of the inputs. You are incredibly overpopulated. There is no need for references on these topics. We have played this point 100 times over several years so I get tired of digging up references. You are stuck in denial

  15. More Davy Delusional BS on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:43 am 

    Davy on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:00 am

    Davy on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:05 am

  16. Davy on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 8:22 am 

    Well, looks like the board moderators will have to stop the show again because JuanP cannot play by the rules.

    Here is today’s JuanP identity theft and socks:
    Not JuanP on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:36 am
    Davy on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:38 am
    More Davy Delusional BS on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:43 am
    Davy on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:46 am

  17. Cloggie on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 11:07 am 

    French, Germans and Dutch overrule tolerant Tusk: give us a deal or you British are out:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6889671/Tusk-tells-EU-UK-12-month-Brexit-flextension-Mays-talks-Corbyn-fail.html

    If Corbyn (likely) axes May, the only way out to avoid no deal is a binding referendum, the EU itself said would be a solution. The lady has no choice. A referendum could be (likely) torpedoed by the ERG, who could topple the government.

    Conclusion: no deal almost certain.

  18. Cloggie on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 12:35 pm 

    As expected:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6890167/Labours-deputy-leader-Tom-Watson-heaps-pressure-Corbyn-demand-second-referendum.html

    “May’s talks with Corbyn break down: Labour accuse PM of failing to offer ‘real change or compromise’ as three days of negotiations that have sparked fury from both parties become locked in stalemate”

    Expect the EU leaders (which happens not to be Tusk but national government leaders, headed by Macron) to refuse an extension without sound reason. These people are correctly afraid that the British, if “forced” to stay, will sabotage the EU from within.

    The only sound reason in the current context is NOT a snap elections, which will solve nothing, but a binding referendum. But it is unlikely that the ERG will allow May to announce one.

    I think the “fun” could begin this month and will signal the beginning of the end of the West.

    Britain = next Venezuela.

  19. Cloggie on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 1:35 pm 

    The Brexit farce near the end, France, Spain and Belgium ready to push the British out:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/05/france-spain-and-belgium-ready-for-no-deal-brexit-next-week

    “France, Spain and Belgium ‘ready for no-deal Brexit next week’”

  20. Cloggie on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 1:58 pm 

    Vassal no more:

    https://www.rt.com/news/455653-salvini-le-pen-elections/

    “Salvini meets Le Pen in Paris, teases a ‘major’ right-wing event in Italy ahead of EU elections”

    Unthinkable, even in Trump-USA.

  21. Duncan Idaho on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:09 pm 

    Future Trump employee?

    ——the guy who had overall responsibility for the 737 MAX desaster holds a “degree” in “Business Administration”. James McNerney, B.A. from Yale, MBA from Harvard, member of Delta Kappa Epsilon – Chairman, President and CEO of The Boeing Company 2005-2016. I have a strong feeling that gender studies wouldn’t exactly be his cup of tea. Just an ordinary, boring, utterly predictable, Pavlovian, run-of-the-mill business tosser.

  22. Duncan Idaho on Fri, 5th Apr 2019 7:12 pm 

    Britain = next Venezuela.

    Actually not—
    Venezuela has the largest reserves of oil.
    And they are not getting any less valuable.

  23. Cloggie on Sat, 6th Apr 2019 12:13 am 

    I was obviously talking about major economic disruption, caused by an incompetent leadership.

    The UK btw has far larger fossil fuel reserves than Venezuela:

    https://deepresource.wordpress.com/2015/04/07/fracking-is-for-amateurs/

  24. Cloggie on Sat, 6th Apr 2019 8:18 am 

    Yellow Vests week #21

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGskud63Egc

    White insurrection still going strong, just like Pegida in Germany.

  25. Cloggie on Sat, 6th Apr 2019 8:40 am 

    Oxford Union Brexit discussion, 4 pro and 4 con:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzz-qLspRqo&list=PLOAFgXcJkZ2zItGGXg065rTpD-bqb190J&index=1

  26. joe on Sat, 6th Apr 2019 10:36 am 

    I hope Teresa May watches it, it might help her decide….

  27. joe on Sat, 6th Apr 2019 10:38 am 

    “Britain = next Venezuela”
    GREAT Britain =next Venezuela, I believe you’ll find

  28. Davy on Sat, 6th Apr 2019 12:08 pm 

    GREAT Britain =next Venezuela

    Rubbish, Idaho is confused. He does not even know What is going on in California which is his own backyard.

  29. JuanP on Sat, 6th Apr 2019 6:12 pm 

    What does California have to do with Venezuela and Great Britain?

    Nothing except it’s an opportunity for DavySkum to make an irrelevant cheap shot at someone who dares oppose his narrow minded worldview.

    Bottom line: Shut the fuck-up already, DavyTurd.

  30. Davy on Sat, 6th Apr 2019 6:35 pm 

    JuanP, I neutered you good with the california thing. You came to Idaho’s assistance like a dumbass and I made you pay. LOL

  31. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 3:00 am 

    Peter Hitchins making the case that there isn’t that much difference between Labour and Tories:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6894849/PETER-HITCHENS-TRUE-problem-Corbyn-Theyre-far-closer-think.html

    “PETER HITCHENS: The TRUE problem with May and Corbyn? They’re far closer than you think”

    The latter are just as PC as the former, if not worse. And in 2019, the Tories (and UKIP) might be even worse with colored immigration than Labour, the latter having made a U-turn away from New Labour of Tony Blair, who gave away half of London to Islam. The little guy in the street doesn’t like colored immigration, much in contrast to the purely economically motivated “higher ups”, who couldn’t care less about a British Britain. Alan B’Stards wherever you look:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeiGLSy-1zU

    The only immigration these Brexiteers really oppose is white immigration from Europe. Next they fool the commoner that they are against “immigration” in general, while in reality they are preparing to flood the country further with cheap colored labor from the Commonwealth:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3630847/More-black-people-allowed-Britain-leave-EU-immigration-non-issue-says-Nigel-Farage.html

    “More black people will be allowed into Britain if we leave the EU and immigration will become a ‘non-issue’, says Nigel Farage”

    Only fools ignore the signals.

    The irony is that those British who support white Britain, like our Antius, would have probably been better off by staying in the EU, where the populists are gaining ground rapidly. Yes, the EU is a Marxist club (because they were pushed in that direction by f* Anglo conquerors after 1945), but that by no means mean has to stay that way. In the thirties entire Europe was right-wing, as opposed to globalist American, Soviets and Churchill-Britain. The latter won the war the globalists were desiring, unfortunately.

    But now in 2019, we have a total new situation, with the Anglo-Zionist globalists looking old and they know it:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-09-27/america-s-new-world-order-is-officially-dead

    We have a sort of “national-socialist-without-swastika” China, preparing to become the next #1, we have very identitarian Muslims, about to dump white colonialism once and for all, we now have a unified continental Europe and we have a reborn Russia, that taught the US a lesson in Syria, impatient waiting to be accepted as a member of the European club.

    Still having trouble understanding why I am so upbeat?

    We are going to have at least the world map of Orwell (bottom map):

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/26/which-future-world/

    And if Doug Casey is wrong about “Americans being too lame and too fat to revolt”, we might even have Samuel Huntington+, the map on top.

    But that’s for Anglos to worry about, the very same Anglos we continental Europeans are about to dump geopolitically, because Britain volunteers to retreat in Anglosphere, because they know the global US empire is almost history and they don’t want to be stuck with “the Huns”. The globalist thinking British elite prefers darkies over white Europeans.

  32. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 3:39 am 

    “Shouldn’t have said that”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6894471/Liam-Fox-joked-Emmanuel-Macron-sleeping-grandmother-Brexit-extension-block.html

    “Liam Fox ‘joked that Emmanuel Macron, 41, was sleeping with his grandmother’ in jibe at the French President’s older wife, 65, after he tried to scupper Theresa May’s Brexit ‘flextension'”

    Why did Fox say that? Probably because he wants to provoke Macron into obstructing an extension of article 50 and deliver the ERG the no-deal Brexit, they themselves are unable to deliver.

    My hierarchy of wishful thinking used to be:

    1. May deal
    2. No-deal Brexit
    3. Remain

    The reason behind that was that in the inevitable upcoming WW3, initiated in the South China Sea, Eurasia merely has to deal with the US, with Britain as an economic vassal of Europe, could remain neutral, rather than side militarily with Anglosphere.

    Currently I don’t care that much about the difference between 1 and 2, triggered by the developments of the last few weeks, with the anti-semitic rumblings in the Labour party. A no-deal Brexit could cause the breakup of the Tory party, trigger an election and bring about a closet-anti-semitic anti-oligarch Corbyn government, that would volunteer to remain neutral anyway in WW3.

    As a result I hope that Brexit will commence next week, after the EU has refused to give an extension and the real geopolitical drama will begin: the dismemberment of empire.

  33. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 4:35 am 

    Plane flying upper class British public intervening against their own law-enforcement, so Muslims rapist can’t be expelled, cauze he is a holy darkie:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6894425/Yaqub-Ahmed-rape-victim-speaks-seeing-attacker-saved-deportation.html

    If he had been Polish, they wouldn’t have done it.

    These people are their own worst enemy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP6U6Hhy_2M

    That’s why Brexit is such a God-sent. We get rid of the globalist Anglos without war.

  34. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 6:36 am 

    ERG begging Europe to throw the UK out by threatening they will sabotage the EU from within if forced to participate in the upcoming election:

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/brexit-jacob-rees-mogg-warnt-vor-verbleib-in-europaeischer-union-a-1261682.html

    “We are going to be the most difficult EU member”

    I believe them and we should do the ERG a “favor” and kick them into a no-deal Brexit abyss, anticipate a Corbin government as a result and set up some EU-UK Norway deal “after the break”, rather than before and get this farce over with.

    “The Next Churchill-in-waiting”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6895535/Jacob-Rees-Mogg-says-Boris-Johnson-unite-Conservative-party-win-election.html

    Most people consider Churchill as the “hero of WW2”, bringing the “UK to victory”, such is the power of propaganda over clear thinking.

    A few simple observations can refute that idea immediately.

    Up until this half-American traitor and the world’s first neocon became wartime PM, Britain was the most important country in the geopolitical pecking order and presiding over the world’s largest empire in history.

    After the war, Britain was a miserable, poor country, stripped of its empire (by their American “allies”) and until the seventies “Europe’s sick man”, when it entered the EEC and only as a EU-member had some short-lived revival as “cool Britannia”. Forget about “cool Britannia” after a no-deal Brexit.

    Conclusion: Britain had been used by the US as its useful idiot, by letting itself being sicked by the force of American diplomacy into a war that only served American (and Soviet) interests.

    In private, Chamberlain confirmed this view:

    https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/25/chamberlain-and-the-forrestal-diaries/

    In 2019, Britain no longer has an empire to p*ss away, on American request. But wait! Britain can still p*ss itself away! That’s where BoJo, this globalist British-Russian-Muslim-Jewish mystery meat comes in!

    A BoJo-PM will no doubt bring Britain back into the 1940-Dunkerque-mode, this time not directed against Germany, but entire continental Europe. Breaking off all economic relations with Europe (provided the take-over from May takes place without an election) will automatically drive the Scottish into the welcoming European arms. And while we’re at it, Northern Ireland could finally reunify with Ireland as well, if necessary backed by EU-peace-keeping troops.

  35. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 6:47 am 

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/brexit-jacob-rees-mogg-warnt-vor-verbleib-in-europaeischer-union-a-1261682.html

    Both the French and Germans seem to be ready to pull the plug on Britain this week:

    Die Bundesregierung verliert langsam die Geduld mit Großbritannien: Berlin knüpft eine erneute Verschiebung des Brexit-Termins über den 12. April hinaus auf den 30. Juni an Bedingungen.

    “Eine kurze Verlängerung kommt nur dann in Betracht, wenn es eine neue Entscheidungssituation gibt – dafür müsste bis zum 12. April eine Mehrheit für das Austrittsabkommen in London stehen”, sagte der Staatsminister im Auswärtigen Amt, Michael Roth, der “Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung”. “Frau May hat bisher nicht ausreichend dargelegt, wie sie dahin kommen will.”

    Premierministerin Theresa May hatte am Freitag um einen Aufschub des Austrittstermins Großbritanniens aus der EU bis zum 30. Juni gebeten. Roth bereitet mit seinen Kollegen aus den anderen Mitgliedstaaten die Entscheidung der Staats- und Regierungschefs am Mittwoch vor.

    Er wies Berichte zurück, dass es wegen der Verlängerung strategische Differenzen unter den Mitgliedstaaten gebe. “Ich verfolge wie meine französische Kollegin mit wachsendem Frust, wie Großbritannien einen Termin nach dem anderen verstreichen lässt, um zu einem geordneten Austritt zu kommen.”

    Expect anti-European resentment in the UK to flare up if the consequences become apparent. And of course their American “friends” will be standing by, thrilled by the opportunity to increase their grip on the UK even more than is already the case and turn the hapless islands into a dollar-country, a total subsidiary of the Americans, its 51st state.

    The only way out from this scenario is if either:

    – parliament decides to a 2nd binding referendum (EU will agree to an extension, if the referendum takes place very quickly)
    – May and Corbyn agree on a deal in the last minute (IF the EU would go along)

    I bet no deal will prevail.

  36. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 6:49 am 

    Cartoon of the week: “learn to swim!”

    http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/cartoons-der-woche-von-montag-bis-sonntag-fotostrecke-167960-5.html

  37. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 8:06 am 

    Realism sinking in in the UK about the near-inevitable no-deal Brexit:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/07/andrea-leadsom-no-deal-brexit-next-week-would-not-be-so-grim

    “Andrea Leadsom: no-deal Brexit next week would not be so grim”

    Britain tried to become European for half a century… and failed.

    Anglos after all.

    That’s OK. Say hello to George Soros from me.

  38. joe on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 8:15 am 

    “A no-deal Brexit could cause the breakup of the Tory party, trigger an election and bring about a closet-anti-semitic anti-oligarch Corbyn government”,
    You mean a Labour party with backing by the muslim community of the UK. Lets be straight here. ‘Antisemitic’ is code for muslims who are critical of Jews. This problem is not unique to Britian, rather its Europe wide as the customers of the Bataclan, Munich, and Riviera know too well. The enormous difference of course between Europe and the UK is that muslim opinion is at least heard and challanged. The European media are afraid to even mention terrorism when it happens. The latest obvious cover up of the tram shooting in Holland…..

  39. joe on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 8:22 am 

    Watch out for the ‘nuclear’ option.
    1. Withdraw/Revoke Art 50
    2. Have elections, both EU/UK
    3. Reinvoke Art 50 if there is any appatite for Brexit using the election as a compass for the people will.
    4. With years of life in a new EUSSR Parliament there would be allot of time to make a deal.

    However, with the EUSSR Parliament about to be filled up with Euro versions of UKIP don’t look for a future of nicey hippy commie eurotards greenos.

  40. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 8:32 am 

    Distribution of gold around the world’s central banks in tons:

    https://www.rt.com/business/455762-countries-largest-gold-reserves/

    0. EU total – 12,000 (quick estimate by me)
    1. USA – 8407
    2. Germany – 3483
    3. Italy – 2534
    4. France – 2518
    5. Russia – 2149
    6. China – 1864
    7. Switzerland – 1040
    8. Japan 765
    9. Netherlands 612
    10. India 607
    11. ECB – 504
    12. Taiwan – 424
    13. Portugal – 383
    14. Kazakhstan
    15. Uzbekistan
    16. KSA
    17. UK (!)
    18. Lebanon
    19. Spain
    20. Austria
    21. Belgium

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserve

    Note that the US deep state always has refused to grant an audit of its gold reserves, by total outsiders, like two-time presidential candidate Ron Paul.lol

    Some “conspiracy theorists” believe that the US gold reserves are much smaller.

    Interesting figures, especially for those who are in doubt about the true potential of Europe, “after the break”, especially if heavily armed Russia is included to the mix.

    https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/

    Meet the new master, it’s the old one.

    #BoreasRising

  41. Davy on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 8:58 am 

    “Some “conspiracy theorists” believe that the US gold reserves are much smaller. Interesting figures, especially for those who are in doubt about the true potential of Europe”

    Cloggo, your Eurotard gold is being looted as we speak. Who knows how long it will last with the way your economy is going into the shitter.

    “It Belongs To The People, Not The Bankers” – Italy Moves To Seize Gold From Central Bank”
    http://tinyurl.com/y3e89rrp zero hedge

    “Two weeks ago, somewhat out of the blue, ECB President Mario Draghi issued an odd statement confirming that the European Central Bank needs to approve any operation in the foreign reserves of euro zone countries, including gold and large foreign currency holdings. “The ECB shall approve both the operations in foreign reserve assets remaining with the NCBs (national central banks)…and Member States’ transactions with their foreign exchange working balances above a certain threshold,” “The purpose of this competence is to ensure consistency with the exchange rate and monetary policy of the Union.” Specifically, Draghi made this statement to two Italian members of the European Parliament. At the time it did not seem notable for any reason other than its peculiar timing, but now things are starting to make more sense as The Wall Street Journal reports that Italy’s ruling populists pushed ahead this week with efforts to seize control of the central bank and its gold reserves. Complaining that hundreds of thousands of small individual investors lost billions of dollars after several Italian banks failed in recent years, the anti-establishment ‘5 Star Movement’ and the nationalist ‘League’, depict the central bank as a symbol of a technocratic elite aloof from the needs of ordinary Italians. “We need a change of course at the Bank of Italy if we think about what happened in the last years,” said Deputy Prime Minister Luigi Di Maio, leader of the 5 Star Movement.”

  42. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 11:01 am 

    your Eurotard gold is being looted as we speak.

    That’s serious shit, empire dave! Can you elaborate a lite about how European gold is “looted”, because it is not immediately becoming apparent how pushing gold around between the ECB and the Italian central bank counts as “looting of European gold”.

    Who knows how long it will last with the way your economy is going into the shitter.

    Indeed, who knows. Keep hoping that Europe will collapse, empire dave, while overlooking the real shit developing in your own backyard.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw

    “Seattle is Dying”

  43. Cloggie on Sun, 7th Apr 2019 11:44 am 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-antisemitism-jewish-movement-corbyn-no-confidence-motion-a8858866.html

    “Labour Jewish members declare party’s leadership ‘antisemitic’ in damning vote”

    Labour withdrawing from ZOG-UK, what a development!

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/30/labour-immigration-u-turn-corbyn

    “Labour’s immigration U-turn is a wake-up call for Corbyn supporters”

    puts a £30,000 salary threshold on skilled worker visas for EU citizens – making it unattainable for skilled workers in key areas such as the NHS, social care and beyond. In this context, Labour’s approach to this bad bill really is staggering.

    Labour quietly moving away from mass immigration, as promoted by the Jewish Labour members.

    Nationalism on the left, a little bit like the famous Austrian.

    #GoToIsrael

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