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“150 Strong” with Dmitry Orlov

Dmitry Orlov, the author of Reinventing Collapse and many other books, has become a publisher lately and, in his capacity as publisher and publicist, Dmitry and I will be chatting about the new book he just brought out, 150 Strong; A Pathway to a Different Future by Rob O’Grady. 150 Strong is a valuable handbook for understanding the proper scale to successfully manage human affairs in the political scene of the coming decades, when the economies of everyday life contract to a far more local level. Rob O’Grady is an engineer and father of three who has been stirred to action by his reflections on environmental issues and his everyday encounters with the perversity of our current system. Trained in the discipline of “sustainability engineering,” he discerned early in his career that to talk of sustainability in the world of business and politics was “to pour from the empty into the void,” because the underlying context is subversive of such efforts.

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5 Comments on "“150 Strong” with Dmitry Orlov"

  1. Davy on Tue, 30th Aug 2016 7:15 am 

    It has been refreshing to not hear much from Orlov lately. His agenda of US “bad” and the rest of the world “GOOD” was way off the mark. The US is bad but so is the rest of the nasty world we live in. The US is the worst of the bad but that does not make the rest of the world good. I guess he was busy writing this book so he had no time to be rabid.

    If Orlov has written a fair and balanced book on details of survival in a collapsing world without all the drama I may buy it to add to my doom and prep library. The guy is smart and funny but fails as mean and serious. Somehow I think this will be a disguised version of his traditional agenda of anti-Americanism and pro anything non-American with the a little spice of survival technics for individuals. You know the camouflaged stuff like the bible thumpers put out. What we need now is less “blame and complain agenda” and more nuts and bolts of “how to”. Not that blame and complain is bad it is the degree of it today that is a waste. What we need is a plan B at least for the individual. It is easy to bitch and moan it is much harder to do something about it.

  2. Cloggie on Tue, 30th Aug 2016 7:44 am 

    Dmitri Orlov never really got over the collapse of the USSR and made a living since from claiming that at least post-WW2 adversary US is going to collapse as well, nana-nanana!

  3. Cloggie on Tue, 30th Aug 2016 7:51 am 

    Dmitri Orlov is a closest marxist who will say that the USSR got it wrong with its implementation of Marxism, but that its intentions were good. At the same time he will accuse the US of being “racist” and ignore that the only real reason why the US will collapse eventually is not because of some oily peak, but because of its insane immigration policies since 1965.

    James Howard Kunstler is more realistic here, when he ackowledges the real possibility of secession.

  4. Cloud9 on Tue, 30th Aug 2016 9:26 am 

    The societal building blocks of immediate family, clan and the tribe will no doubt be the way things get reorganized should there be a total breakdown of social order. There is pretty good evidence to support the 100 to 150 group numbers. When numbers get larger than that, splinter groups develop.

  5. JuanP on Wed, 31st Aug 2016 7:28 am 

    Right now my preps include a tribe of 27 people, but I expect that number to more than double when the SHTF. I would be happy with 50 or 60 people for the short and medium term. The fact that we have already been educated and have stores of industrial tools and supplies allows us to reduce the number of people needed for a while, IMO. After I am dead maybe the group will need to grow as it will have to provide for more of its needs, assuming human civilization lasts that long.

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