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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 27 Jun 2019, 16:21:46



Yang is certainly pandering more then any of the other Ds. While the other Ds merely offer to repay people's student loans or give them reparations for being black or reparations for being gay, Yang is offering everybody $1000 a month for life.

The only question I have is why not promise $10,000 per month? Or even promise $100,000 per month for everybody. Why stop at promising everybody a measly $1000 per month?

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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby gollum » Fri 28 Jun 2019, 01:13:28

Gabbard struck me as doing really well last night but the few democrats I know aren't interested.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Cog » Fri 28 Jun 2019, 03:50:22

Holy smokes. The Democrat party has gone full on socialist. Every single one of them embraced free health care for illegals as official US policy.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 28 Jun 2019, 05:36:46

It’s a Russian conspiracy to rig the election so Trump wins.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Cog » Fri 28 Jun 2019, 05:39:56

I watched the Democrat debates in full both nights. Here is what I've gleaned from what they said:

1) Most of them support defacto decriminalization of anyone crossing the border illegally.
2) They all support free medical care for illegals
3) All of them want to ban what they call assault rifles. Some of them want to confiscate existing ones using a mandatory buyback which is nothing more that confiscation with compensation
4) All of them except Hickenlooper and Biden want some form of universal health care system
5) Some are for a universal basic income Wang with his $1000 per month income and that would include illegals. Which wouldn't be illegals anymore. Castro falls into the everyone is welcome here camp.
6) Booker and Harris are playing race politics by calling Biden a racist and support reparation along with Warren. Warren is as socialist at Bernie and perhaps even more so
6) All of them think we need to tax corporations and rich people more to pay for all of these programs and want to reverse the Trump tax cuts.

7) Most of them support some sort of program to erase $1.2 trillion in student loans. The plan is to forgive all this debt and have the taxpayers pay for this.

The party has shifted far left even from 2016. What is developing is a disaster if we elect any of them. The flood of illegals coming here if we have open borders and free stuff will turn into a tsunami. The country that we know as the USA would cease to exist. Couple that with the confiscation of guns and its a recipe for Civil War.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 28 Jun 2019, 15:53:33

Cog,

Thanks for the run down. Saves wading through a lot of BS.

But remember what the SAY they will do and what they WILL do are vastly different. In both of the recent administrations we have had times when one party held the House, Senate, and Presidency. Did either of those sessions result in the ruling party passing significant immigration reform? No. Why? Because BOTH parties want the status quo for one reason or another.

The President doesn’t make the laws, he runs the operation, a chief executive kind of thing. Sure he has a sphere of influence but it’s FAR more limited than any of the candidates would have you believe by their rhetoric.

Jessie Ventura understood this when he said that as Governor he didn’t make the laws, he didn’t like the laws, but he was elected to UPHOLD the laws any by God he would do that.

Maybe i’ll do a write in for Jessie.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 28 Jun 2019, 16:20:42

Kamala Harris did a historic slap down of Biden in the debate. There's a good chance she destroyed his entire candidacy in three minutes.

Harris claimed that she was bused in to desegregates the schools in Berkeley California, and she deeply resented Old White Joe saying nice things about segregationists and racists. And she also resented Biden's opposition to busing.

Biden protested, but Kamala pretty much pinned the label "racist fellow traveler" on him.

Of course, what most surprised me is Kamala's claim that the public schools in Berkeley California were segregated. I've lived in Berkely California. There is no more liberal anti-racist place in the United States. There never were racially segregated schools in Berkeley. But why do the facts matter when Kamala is giving a good bashing to that evil racist sympathizer Joe Biden.

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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby asg70 » Fri 28 Jun 2019, 19:47:44

If there's anything that gets Plant fired up it's election season. I bet he'd have a heart attack if Sarah Palin actually ran for president.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 28 Jun 2019, 20:59:35

BIden's poll numbers dropped 10 points the day after the D debate

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And to make it even worse, one of Biden's big donors said he would no longer back Biden. Apparently the donor didn't know that Biden had colluded with segregationists and racists until Kamala outed him in the first D debate.

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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Fri 28 Jun 2019, 22:41:17

EVERY Southern Democrat colluded with segregationists and racists right up until the JFK/RFK "Camelot" reforms, where they signed up millions of minorities, and changed the ultra right wing D party, until then mostly unchanged since the Civil War Reconstruction.

Biden's problem is he's that old - he was a D member before Camelot.

By the way, when asked at the debate, every D potential candidate held up their hand and said they favored free healthcare for the "undocumented".

That is gonna lose the election. In a recent poll, 35% self-identified as "Conservative", 35% self-identified as "Moderate", and 24% self-identified as "Liberal". The 35% Conservative AND the 35% Moderates will both vote for Trump because of that "free healthcare" pledge. The D's cannot win with 24%.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Cog » Sat 29 Jun 2019, 04:17:33

I'm not surprised by that poll KJ. We Americans struggle with copays, premiums, and deductibles. Even those on Medicare have to pay for Part B supplemental and Part D drug coverage. To raise your hand and say free health care to illegals, while us Americans struggle with the system we have is an appalling lack of concern for American citizens. The left really does love illegals more than they do you.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Cog » Sat 29 Jun 2019, 07:33:32

I would like to share some insights gained by watching the two nights of debates with my lady friend. She is older than me and is a Democrat raised by Democrats. The thought of her voting Republican has never entered her mind. Now while we are watching I'm holding my tongue even though she knows I'm fully in as a Trump supporter and Republican conservative. I wanted to see her reactions.

She does not like this young breed of Democrats at all. She finds them rude and pretty far out there politically. She likes Biden since he represents what she still thinks the Democrat party still represents. She is particularly hostile to Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren. She does like Buttgieg since he is thoughtful and has a quiet demeanor.

We discussed the debates in depth afterwards and she is scared about this field of candidates. She doesn't want anything to do with socialism and wants a candidate that is more old school like Biden. She believes if one of the others gets the nod, then Trump wins again.

I would imagine the older Democrats like her were sort of shocked by what they saw during the debates. I wonder if she will vote for the Democrat nominee no matter who it is but I would not count on it. Doesn't mean she will vote for Trump though since she absolutely despises the man.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 29 Jun 2019, 20:12:48

Black people are tired of forgiving white people for their racism, and they aren't going to forgive Biden for his history of colluding with racists and segregationists to block busing.

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Harris destroyed the Biden candidacy by exposing his history of colluding with racists and segregationists. Biden will never recover from this in the black community, and no one can win the D nomination without support from the black community.

It will take a while for blacks to shift away from Biden, just as it took a while for blacks to shift from Hillary to supporting Obama in 2008. But there is no way blacks can ever forgive Biden for his racist past now. Those days are over.

So who will the black vote shift to? Kamala Harris? Corey Booker? Elizabeth Warren? Thats what the rest of this campaign will be about.

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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 05 Jul 2019, 11:13:29

OK---its official now. Joe Biden is a moron.

Everyone knows that Joe says dumb thing after dumb thing, described as "gaffes". Well...what if Joe is saying dumb thing after dumb thing because he is really dumb......

Joe's latest gaffe has convinced me that he makes so many gaffes because he is really really stupid.

Joe said the Russians wouldn't have messed with the elections if he and Obama were in charge.

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The man is a total idiot. The Russian interference happened in 2016 when he and obama actually were in charge. And whats more, there was also Russian interference in 2014 when Joe and Barack were in charge. How can you even talk to someone who doesn't even know he first thing about whats going on in the world.

I've had it with old white Joe. His stupid "gaffes" are just the kind of stupid talk you get from a stupid person who doesn't even comprehend what is going on around him.

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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby gollum » Fri 05 Jul 2019, 18:36:02

Even if he’s still the nominee I think he’s going to have a very hard time turning out black voters in their traditional numbers. Trumps prospects for a second term seem to be getting better by the week.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Cog » Fri 05 Jul 2019, 20:18:03

ralfy wrote:Could Andrew Yang be the Dark Horse of 2020?

If you hard up for that $1000 a month Yang is promising you might try a second job.

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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 05 Jul 2019, 20:27:03

Biden just said he's got dirt on the other D candidates and he'll start burning them if they don't stop attacking his past

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Biden is such a moron. Kamala Harris and Corey Booker are already attacking him for his past collusion with D segregationists and his opposition to school busing. Its too late for Biden to threaten the other Ds. Harris and Booker have already pretty much destroyed Biden's credibility in the black community. No self-respecting black person is going to support a man who spent years colluding with racists and segregationists.

Biden's only hope is to start attacking them right back. No doubt Biden has learned from Hillary and Obama and his detectives have found some good dirt on the other Ds. For instance, Biden must know that Kamala slept her way tot the top, Corey Booker has been accused of sexually assaulting someone in a men's bathroom, etc. etc.

But is Biden too much of a moron to even fight back? My guess is Biden is too much of a moron to fight back, until its too late.

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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby Cog » Sat 06 Jul 2019, 04:23:45

Maybe Biden can get a FISA warrant and put all of them under surveillance. That worked so well the first time.
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Re: Who will be the Democratic Party nominee in 2020?

Unread postby gollum » Sat 06 Jul 2019, 08:57:05

Cog wrote:Maybe Biden can get a FISA warrant and put all of them under surveillance. That worked so well the first time.



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