Newfie wrote:Right, and I’m polar opposite, down in the lower left quadrant.
I’ve no one to pick from that reflects my inclinations.
Perhaps that’s why I’m less upset about Trump, I don’t see any substantial difference between him than Hillary/Obama.
Pops wrote:Wall street says they'll vote for trump if Warren is nominated...
Hooray!
We need a clear distinction between the parties, the R-Lite version of clinton/obama politics that embraces the entities whose entire reason for being is to profit and protection. Liz is a too redistribution-y for me but I'll take it in return for standing up to their money.
Pops wrote:Newfie wrote:Right, and I’m polar opposite, down in the lower left quadrant.
I’ve no one to pick from that reflects my inclinations.
Perhaps that’s why I’m less upset about Trump, I don’t see any substantial difference between him than Hillary/Obama.
Unfortunately for you and me the US is (or at least has been) a center-right and pretty authoritarian country, representatives reflect that to a lesser or outrageous extent. Clinton / obama/ biden / HRC are "Third Way" candidates who (a lot like outcast searcher) preface their every right-leaning policy remark with "I'm a moderate, but..."
I'll give trump one thing, he'll instigate a buttload of new laws regarding presidential power, DOJ independence, "businessmen" in government. Not to mention a big backlash to his gutting of science, state dept, EPA... I'd not be surprised if the next president doesn't call for all national candidates to have security clearance, release tax returns. divest business. Maybe a strange thing for a anti-authoritarian to say, but this guys multipe assertions of "absolute authority" scares the crap out of me. Has any other president even said those words?
Outcast_Searcher wrote:I'm all for her tackling things like the banking lobby. If the rich "should pay more", then it should be higher income tax rates, not a flat confiscation of wealth scheme, regardless of income. Over time, that's simply theft.
Naturally the masses love it because THEIR ox isn't being gored, but that doesn't make it right.
Newfie wrote:The Democrats are in the wrong side of the immigration issue.
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A truly Green Deal would strive to bring the USA towards being self sustaining. And that would mean to reduce consumption across the board and also to pull back in exporting our finite resources; principally water.
Making the USA self sustaining would mean reducing population down to about 150 million, or so I’ve been told. Sounds about right considering our footprint and that it does not include resource depletion.
Pops wrote:This makes me really happy. I'm sure joe is toast now.
Pops wrote:Biden's toast. Trump is toast too, he just called on both china and ukraine to do exactly what the Ds are impeaching him for, but at least he took down joe.
So the question is who'd the R lite candidate? I like Amy tho she's not my ideological match, I'd vote for her. I don't know what Kamala is about, Pete seems smart but he's too young for me, I dislike Beto, I don't really know the others.
Newfie wrote:You also noted how automation is putting folks out of work. So we are increasing immigration because?????
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