“For all the plans, climate change does not seem to function in the Democratic Party the way that, say, abortion does within the Republican Party: There isn’t a well-organized contingent of voters waiting to glom onto a climate champion. There is a large, addressable set of voters who care about climate change—but they mostly seem to be activated Democrats, and as activated Democrats they care about a wide range of issues and as such retain a wide range of candidate loyalties. Thanks to years of careful organizing, the banner of climate action can unite the U.S. left’s many constituencies. But they come together as constituencies, and that means that even if they want climate action, it remains only one in a list of demands.
In other words, climate change may occupy a position in the party much like Elizabeth Warren does in the primary: Both are just about every Democrat’s second-best friend.”
Why the Democratic National Committee Must Change the Rules and Hold a Climate Debate
Having a habitable Earth is not a "single issue"; it is the single precondition for every other issue’s existence.
byNaomi KLEIN
Dear Members of the DNC:
Your meeting in San Francisco this weekend takes place against a backdrop that is literally on fire. You are gathering one month after the hottest month ever recorded in human history. You are meeting on the same week that smoke from a record number of wildfires in the Amazon rainforest turned day into night in the Brazilian megapolis of São Paulo. And you are meeting just days after Iceland’s prime minister led her country in its first funeral service for a major glacier lost to climate change.
This is the terrifying context in which you will vote on a series of resolutions to determine whether the presidential primaries will include a dedicated debate about the climate emergency. Not the already scheduled climate “forum” or climate “town hall,” which will surely be fascinating for those who seek them out — but a formal televised debate among the top candidates vying to lead your party and the country.
I am writing to add my voice to the hundreds of thousands of others who have called on you to use your power to turn that debate into a reality.
Many of you are already on board, including the chairs of several state parties, but you are up against some powerful opponents. Let’s take on their two main counterarguments in turn.
Newfie wrote:Having a habitable Earth is not a "single issue"; it is the single precondition for every other issue’s existence.
Newfie wrote:I’m gonna make a prediction. Toning out on a limb here, y’all keep track of this and call me out if I’m wrong, which is usually the case. Here goes.
BIDEN will be the Democrat nominee. He will keep trudging along through the primaries, he will likely have a lead going into the convention but won’t win on the first ballot. On the second ballot nearly 100% of super delegates will vote for him making it clear he has a commanding lead. If he doesn’t make it on the second ballot it will be shortly thereafter.
Monmouth University's polling unit, in a highly unusual statement, indicated Wednesday they do not have confidence in their jaw-dropping survey released earlier this week showing former Vice President Joe Biden plunging in the Democratic presidential primary.
Newfie wrote:Monmouth University's polling unit, in a highly unusual statement, indicated Wednesday they do not have confidence in their jaw-dropping survey released earlier this week showing former Vice President Joe Biden plunging in the Democratic presidential primary.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/monmou ... an-outlier
Plantagenet wrote:Newfie wrote:Monmouth University's polling unit, in a highly unusual statement, indicated Wednesday they do not have confidence in their jaw-dropping survey released earlier this week showing former Vice President Joe Biden plunging in the Democratic presidential primary.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/monmou ... an-outlier
Monmouth Univ. said their poll was an "outlier."
Thats just gibberish.
We won't know if the Monmouth poll is an "outlier" or if it is another data point showing a systematic decline in Biden's poll numbers until we get more polls in the coming weeks. Polling numbers aren't static---they are changing constantly. If you knew what the correct answer was then you could discard this poll as an outlier. But we don't know what the actual support is for Biden, and we don't know how Biden's support is changing on a week to week basis. Thats why we do multiple polls....to collect data on changes in polling numbers through time.
Cheers!
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Outliers are outliers, no matter what part of the political spectrum the poll happens to be about. They're not saying it's wrong -- just that they don't know yet -- just like YOU are saying we don't know yet.
Cog wrote:From my Republican perspective, Trump can beat any of the more radical candidates rather easily, so I'd rather one of them is the nominee. Biden comes across as a more old style Dem that would have a good shot at beating Trump. Biden has lost a lot of his mental sharpness from earlier years, but I do believe he will muddle through and get the nomination.
Cog wrote:Biden has lost a lot of his mental sharpness from earlier years, but I do believe he will muddle through and get the nomination.
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