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THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Revi » Tue 28 May 2019, 13:35:57

demographics is destiny.

That's the reason that the Republicans can't get elected and have to resort to dirty tricks and redistricting.

If the Dems can read the writing on the wall they will have Julian Castro as at least the vice president.

Let's hope...
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 28 May 2019, 17:03:44

Revi wrote:demographics is destiny.

That's the reason that the Republicans can't get elected and have to resort to dirty tricks and redistricting.


Obviously Rs can get elected and obviously both the Ds and the Rs sometimes resort to dirty tricks and redistricting and gerrymandering. Dirty tricks are bi-partisan---both sides do it. Look at Russia-gate....its perhaps the greatest dirty political trick in history and full credit for it has to go to Obama and Hillary and the Ds.

Revi wrote:If the Dems can read the writing on the wall they will have Julian Castro as at least the vice president.

Let's hope...


It does appear that Julian Castro is essentially running in the "Hispanic Lane", hoping to get picked as VP based on his ethnic background.

But he's not the only playing that game......there are Ds running in the "black lane", the "woman lane," the "gay lane", even the "Asian lane." Whoever the eventual D nominee is will have pick a VP carefully, because if he picks a hispanic the blacks will be offended and may not turn out to vote as happened in 2016, if he picks a gay he may offend union members, etc. etc.

Picking people purely on the basis of identify politics is a two-edged sword.....the folks in that particular ethnic group will like the VP, but people in other groups will probably feel excluded and dissed and may not turn out to vote because their candidate was passed over.

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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 30 May 2019, 09:05:02

Hi-partisan humor

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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Thu 30 May 2019, 10:13:53

I have made this point before, and you are all ignoring it. The POTUS does not control the Federal purse, or make new law - the House and Senate do that. He can issue Executive Orders but the next POTUS can reverse them with another EO at any time.

What most people do in the office of POTUS is enrich themselves. The Clintons somehow became multi-millionaires during his 8 years at $435K/yr. We are expected to believe that scandals like Whitewater, which returned $1100 for every dollar invested, are because HRC is a good money manager.

Get over your naiveté. The rhetoric they spew during the campaign is to garner votes in the primaries and national elections. They don't actually DO anything about what they say. Trump is so profoundly disturbing to the R's and D's because he is not motivated by greed. He is also not figuratively sucking the teats of the national media, so they hate him too.
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Thu 30 May 2019, 13:10:35

Castro is big friend and supporter of La Raza. You need to educate yourself about what they stand for Revi, before you go all in on this guy. Castro loves identity politics and race pimping.
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby lpetrich » Thu 30 May 2019, 13:50:04

KaiserJeep wrote:What most people do in the office of POTUS is enrich themselves. ...

When Republicans do it, it's good, and when Democrats do it, it's bad, right?
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Thu 30 May 2019, 14:24:38

lpetrich wrote:
KaiserJeep wrote:What most people do in the office of POTUS is enrich themselves. ...

When Republicans do it, it's good, and when Democrats do it, it's bad, right?


Do you have any personal knowledge that Trump has enriched himself by being POTUS? If so, share it with the class. I'm sure the rest of us would be enraptured by your deep understanding of how that transpired and would be blessed by your post on such matters.
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 30 May 2019, 15:57:09

Right now Biden is the D front runner and supposedly he is looking at Pete Bootyjudge as his best bet for VP.

Biden doesn't need a black VP----he's already getting more black support then either Kamala Harris or Corey Booker, so they bring nothing.

Same thing with Julian Castro. Biden is running way AHEAD of Castro among Hispanics, so Castro brings nothing to a ticket.

But if Biden picks Bootyjudge, then he can simultaneously pull in the youth vote and the gay vote AND get all those people who want to break barriers and support something new just because its new....like a gay VP. ALSO, Biden isn't polling all that well among the young, and Bootyjudge is the youngest D in the race, so he's the best fit as VP.

Politics can all change in a flash, but right now it looks like a Biden + Bootyjudge ticket on the D side.

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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Thu 30 May 2019, 17:26:17

lpetrich wrote:
KaiserJeep wrote:What most people do in the office of POTUS is enrich themselves. ...

When Republicans do it, it's good, and when Democrats do it, it's bad, right?


It is fascinating how people project their strident partisanship onto other people. I have never been a Democrat or a Republican or for that matter a member of any other party. I criticize both major parties all the time, including especially Trump. Note how some are so blinded by partisanship that all they can do is accuse another of being with their opposition.

Blind ideology is what that is, and it's very bad for us all.
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Revi » Fri 31 May 2019, 07:17:36

Should we change the name of this forum to Summit of the Freedom Molecules? It would be more in keeping with Our Dear Leader's tastes.
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Cog » Fri 31 May 2019, 11:40:02

We could rename it the Party of Really Bad Ideas but that might seem partisan.
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Plantagenet » Fri 31 May 2019, 12:25:39

The Constitution says a President should be impeached if he is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.

But in 2019 the Ds have come up with a lower standard.

Gone is the presumption of innocence. We must instead assume people are guilty until they are exonerated.

And the Ds say Trump should be impeached because Mueller couldn't exonerate him.

Do you find the accused to be NOT EXONERATED?

We do so find.
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Revi » Fri 31 May 2019, 13:22:36

Cog wrote:We could rename it the Party of Really Bad Ideas but that might seem partisan.


Which party are you referring to?
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 31 May 2019, 13:32:44

OK guys, slow down a little on the excessive partisanship. Party affiliation either demonizes not exonerates.

Please try to keep it to specifics, Fred did this and Sally did that.
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Revi » Tue 04 Jun 2019, 11:09:45

I just started reading Siege and it's as funny as Fire and Fury. It's not as inside a view as the other book, but it has some great characters in it like Bannon who will make you laugh.

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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 04 Jun 2019, 15:57:09

I was disappointed to see Kamala Harris cringing in fear when an animal rights activist wearing a man-bun came up on stage and took the microphone away from her at the California D convention.

For heaven sakes, Kamala. Show some gumption. Don't cringe and kowtow to bullies like that. At least stand up and walk away---don't just surrender your microphone and sit there looking helpless.

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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby Revi » Wed 05 Jun 2019, 11:37:43

I think the figurehead of the other party is doing a nice job of wrecking things. I hope the democratic process works this time and we can have a peaceful transition of power. If this is still a reasonable place...
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Wed 05 Jun 2019, 11:50:24

Except we do not live in a simple Democracy, we have an Electoral College, designed to prevent the domination of rural communities by people living in cities. The system performed as designed this last election, as it has many times in the past, beginning with why it was designed, which was to prevent one colony (the great state of Virginia) from dominating the other twelve colonies. That is the definition of "works". If you want a simple Democracy, then there are defined ways of changing the government structure, involving Constitutional Amendments. The process of change was deliberately made difficult.
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby lpetrich » Thu 06 Jun 2019, 08:47:36

KaiserJeep wrote:Except we do not live in a simple Democracy, we have an Electoral College, designed to prevent the domination of rural communities by people living in cities.

At the price of effectively disenfranchising rural members of states with big cities. Or is that a price that is well worth paying?

I've read Federalist Paper #68, and you should have no trouble pointing out where it advocates anything close to "one acre one vote" or "one state one vote".
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Re: THE Democrat Thread Pt. 3

Unread postby lpetrich » Thu 06 Jun 2019, 09:36:01

Plantagenet wrote:For heaven sakes, Kamala. Show some gumption. Don't cringe and kowtow to bullies like that. At least stand up and walk away---don't just surrender your microphone and sit there looking helpless.

But that would make her look like a coward, right?
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