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Re: Degrowth Thread

Unread postby onlooker » Fri 29 Mar 2019, 19:22:02

Nothing we have tried has worked. Wonder if we really tried
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Re: Degrowth Thread

Unread postby Ibon » Fri 29 Mar 2019, 20:01:12

onlooker wrote:Nothing we have tried has worked. Wonder if we really tried
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/03/28 ... ied-works/


We are not hurling ourselves toward extinction. Just toward an inflection point that will hurt.
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Re: Degrowth Thread

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Sat 30 Mar 2019, 02:30:16

There are those among us who would blame economic systems, government theories/practices, politics, or any number of other "things that we do" for the fatal conumdrum we find ourselves in. There really is no point to further debate on such topics, none of which have been, are, or will be helpfull to resolve our fate, human condition, or however you want to express it.

Humans are the biggest success story that Nature ever concocted. We reproduced to the limits, consumed to the limits, took every resource to 100%, and did not stop, are not stopping, and will not stop doing what comes "natural", not ever.

You got some kind of problem with success, do you, Bubba?
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Re: Degrowth Thread

Unread postby Newfie » Wed 24 Apr 2019, 06:34:01

Columbia town rejects gold mine. My DIL is from central Columbia.

Around 98 percent of the residents in Cajamarca said no to the mine due to concerns over the environment and water pollution – and Colombian Mining Minister German Arce doesn’t seem too happy with the results.

South African company AngloGold Ashanti aimed to build the gold mine, called La Colosa, in Central Colombia, and it could have been the biggest gold mine in South America. The national government was in favor of La Colosa, saying mining is vital as they recover from war with Marxist rebels. But residents of Cajamarca, where the mine would be located, overwhelmingly rejected the project in a recent referendum. According to the BBC, 19,000 people live in the town, and only 76 locals voted in favor of the gold mine while 6,100 voted against.


http://www.whitewolfpack.com/2017/04/co ... MlJzU8&m=1

The referendum throws into doubt South African miner AngloGold Ashanti ’s proposal for one of the world’s largest open-pit excavations—more than twice the size of Central Park—along with Colombia’s embrace of the role of multinationals to advance remote regions once torn by decades of violence.

Three other towns rich in minerals now say they will replicate Cajamarca’s anti-mining campaign and referendum. The national government is playing down the impact of Sunday’s vote, but the stage is set for legal battles that will likely play out across Colombia’s multiple, competing courts.


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Re: Degrowth Thread

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 20 May 2019, 14:27:10

Vtsnowedin came up with the idea of taxing robots some time ago. I’m starting to think that’s a great idea. What really got me considering it was hearing how Japan is trying to deal with a shrinking population. Shrinking population shrinks the taxable working base.

However if we shift the tax from being in the PERSON as the base of production to the DEVICE that is creating the production then we can still have an expanding tax base in the face of a decreasing population.

Strikes me that this would go a long way to stabilizing our population, putting an end to immigration, plus creating a more fair economy.

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