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THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

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Unread postby Tanada » Tue 07 Apr 2020, 09:50:23


April 06: 415.72 ppm
April 05: 416.03 ppm
April 04: 416.03 ppm
April 03: Unavailable
April 02: 415.60 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 07 Apr 2020, 09:51:28


March 2020: 414.50 ppm
March 2019: 411.97 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby forbin » Tue 07 Apr 2020, 11:26:54

so thats 2.53 yoy - slightly higher than the expected 2.4 x ,

any ideas why anyone ?
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 07 Apr 2020, 14:51:19

forbin wrote:so thats 2.53 yoy - slightly higher than the expected 2.4 x ,

any ideas why anyone ?


That is well within the natural range of variability. Spring weather across the Northern Hemisphere is the biggest factor. A widely distributed early spring drives the numbers down while a delayed spring elevates rates. An average is just the result of decade of different spring seasons combined.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby sparky » Sun 12 Apr 2020, 04:19:45

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I'm waiting for the results of the virus , all countires report great decreases in energy consumtion , this better show up in CO2 number or else there is a fraud ongoing
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby nocar » Sun 12 Apr 2020, 04:46:23

Sparky, in my understanding there is a lot going on in the biosphere. This time of the year, with spring in the northern hemisphere, lots of plants start absorbing CO2. Also less heating of houses is required. So there should be a seasonal decrease anyway. But if large forest or peat fires start, this may cancel any extra decrease due to less cars and aeroplanes burning fuel. If the restrictions ease in a month or so I doubt we will see an effect. But if they keep for a year - hopefully the effect will be measurable.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Sun 12 Apr 2020, 07:19:04

sparky wrote:.
I'm waiting for the results of the virus , all countires report great decreases in energy consumtion , this better show up in CO2 number or else there is a fraud ongoing


Greatly reduced compared to 2019, but not really reduced from say 2009. You have to remember that in the last 20 years the Chinese coal power sector has been growing at rates between one and two new coal burning power stations a week. Cutting down on road traffic doesn't do squat to reduce electricity usage.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 19 Apr 2020, 12:16:41

stephen at asif just pointed out that there was a new April record set this week:

This week had a lot of intra-day and inter-day variations, including the second highest ever recorded daily value on April 16 (417.08 ppm).


It's seems like yesterday that we passed 400ppm. I'd say that it seems like the sky is the limit, but we are literally exceeding pretty much constantly the limits of how much CO2 the sky has held, at least for millions of years, as we speak.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 22 Apr 2020, 14:51:01


April 21: 416.28 ppm
April 20: 416.29 ppm
April 19: 416.05 ppm
April 18: 416.76 ppm
April 17: 416.80 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 22 Apr 2020, 14:52:01


Week beginning on April 12, 2020: 416.27 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 413.63 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 392.85 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Wed 22 Apr 2020, 19:03:55

Chinese coal burning considered I would still not be surprised to see a drop in world CO2 by August or September.
The Wests' appetite for Chinese products has taken a hit both from the ability to pay for them being reduced and the anger aimed at the duplicity of the Chinese government in allowing Covid-19 to spread un announced. So many of their coal plants will have no factory to feed and most Western industry will probably still be at half speed hence half CO2 emissions.
Perhaps the only good thing that will come from Covid-19.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Daphne64 » Wed 22 Apr 2020, 22:03:15

"April 22 (UPI) -- As carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere continue to increase, scientists expect humans to struggle with strategic thinking and complex decision making.

New models suggest CO2 levels in indoor environs, whether at work or at home, will reach 1,400 parts per million -- three times the current amounts of carbon dioxide found indoors. As a result, the human brain will struggle to get the amount of oxygen necessary for high-level thinking."


Straight line extrapolation of 3 ppm per year indicates we will get to the 900 or so ppm in about 160 years. At that point it would be hard to think clearly in classrooms that are not adequately ventilated. It shouldn't be too hard to ventilate. But add another 160 years, and only those who can afford to breathe specially filtered air will be able to think clearly. That's pretty sobering.


https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2020/0 ... AZjXa6OveQ
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Azothius » Tue 28 Apr 2020, 08:42:35

The Economy Is at a Standstill, and Yet Carbon Emissions Have Only Dipped Slightly. Why?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... us-990675/

Pedestrians have taken over city streets, people have almost entirely stopped flying, skies are blue (even in Los Angeles!) for the first time in decades, and global CO2 emissions are on-track to drop by … about 5.5 percent.

Transportation makes up a little over 20 percent of global carbon dioxide emissions, according to the International Energy Agency. (In the United States, it makes up around 28 percent.) That’s a significant chunk, but it also means that even if all travel were completely carbon-free (imagine a renewable-powered, electrified train system, combined with personal EVs and battery-powered airplanes), there’d still be another 80 percent of fossil fuel emissions billowing into the skies.

So where are all those emissions coming from? For one thing, utilities are still generating roughly the same amount of electricity — even if more of it’s going to houses instead of workplaces. Electricity and heating combined account for over 40 percent of global emissions. Many people around the world rely on wood, coal, and natural gas to keep their homes warm and cook their food — and in most places, electricity isn’t so green either.

Even with a bigger proportion of the world working from home, people still need the grid to keep the lights on and connect to the internet. “There’s a shift from offices to homes, but the power hasn’t been turned off, and that power is still being generated largely by fossil fuels,” Schmidt said. In the United States, 60 percent of electricity generation still comes from coal, oil, and natural gas. (There is evidence, however, that the lockdown is shifting when people use electricity, which has some consequences for renewables.)

Manufacturing, construction, and other types of industry account for approximately 20 percent of CO2 emissions. Certain industrial processes like steel production and aluminum smelting use huge amounts of fossil fuels — and so far, Schmidt says, that type of production has mostly continued despite the pandemic.

The reality is that emissions need to be cut by 7.6 percent every year to keep global warming from surpassing 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels — the threshold associated with the most dangerous climate threats — according to an analysis by the United Nations Environment Program. Even if the global lockdown and economic slump reduce emissions by 7.6 percent this year, emissions would have to fall even more the year after that. And the year after that. And so on.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby REAL Green » Tue 28 Apr 2020, 10:39:57

It is possible a stalling of emission growth may occur over a longer period of time if the global system goes into a hard recession or maybe even a depression. I personally do not see a recovery to globalism1 that was characteristic of the last decade. I feel we hit peak economic output post Covid and trade cold war. That said I doubt emissions will fall much until affluence falls over time and the yearly addition of 80MIL people levels off.
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 28 Apr 2020, 21:07:25


Week beginning on April 19, 2020: 415.88 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 413.71 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 393.25 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby Tanada » Tue 28 Apr 2020, 21:08:02


April 27: 416.12 ppm
April 26: 416.12 ppm
April 25: Unavailable
April 24: 415.46 ppm
April 23: 415.62 ppm
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 06 Jun 2020, 05:34:39

417.1 parts per million in May, the highest monthly reading ever recorded


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/earth- ... on-record/
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Re: THE Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Thread Pt. 7

Unread postby REAL Green » Sat 06 Jun 2020, 05:49:01

dohboi wrote:
417.1 parts per million in May, the highest monthly reading ever recorded


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/earth- ... on-record/



Damn, I thought the global covid decline would have bumped that down.
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Unread postby Tanada » Sat 06 Jun 2020, 14:56:16


April 2020: 416.21 ppm
April 2019: 413.33 ppm
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