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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby Cog » Sat 06 Apr 2019, 03:36:01

Doom twenty years from now isn't near as exciting as impending doom or doom that the infamous "they" don't want you to know about.
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby Yoshua » Sat 06 Apr 2019, 10:28:21

Algeria with a population of 40 million and post peak oil seems to be next nation to collapse.

The protests in Algeria starts after the Friday prayers, which indicates that the Islamists will take power in Algeria when the current regime falls.

Syria and Yemen have collapsed. Venezuela is on the brink of collapse. The world will perhaps not collapse together at the same time...but nation after nation.

https://www.france24.com/en/20190405-al ... employment
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby yportne » Sat 06 Apr 2019, 11:58:55

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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby Yoshua » Sun 07 Apr 2019, 11:35:54

War in Libya. The eastern government backed by Russia, Egypt, UAE and France has launched an attack against the capitol Tripoli and the western government backed by the U.S, Turkey and Italy.

The aim seems to to control the entire Libyan nation and its oil.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... olitics-vp
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby asg70 » Mon 08 Apr 2019, 02:02:20



Where's the obituary?
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby yportne » Mon 08 Apr 2019, 16:36:39

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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby Yoshua » Mon 15 Apr 2019, 10:44:30

Chris Clugston’s book “Scarcity”? Here is a summary/review:

https://www.ecologise.in/wp-content/upl ... ugston.pdf

“Clugston argues that our modern industrialized civilization and improving standards of
living are made possible by an indispensable use of fossil fuels, metals, and non-metallic
minerals that are never replenished in any relevant time span. There are 89 of these nonrenewable minerals and Clugston meticulously analyses each. Those that are viable
economically are becoming scarcer and more costly. When their extraction/ production
ceases to rise, as is now happening, it is inevitable that a sharp decline in global societal
wellbeing must follow. Indeed, he shows that the Great Recession of 2008 was
precipitated by the rising costs of non-renewable natural resources NNRs.”
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby KaiserJeep » Mon 15 Apr 2019, 14:13:19

"Peak Rare Earths" was kicked around and ultimately discredited about three years back. All such substances can be recovered fron the oceans, if only you have the available energy....
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby asg70 » Mon 15 Apr 2019, 14:40:52

yportne wrote:https://candobetter.net/node/5739?fbclid=IwAR2jGX1LYjlh-tQO-d3inQPdIxjV7vGWLx4FSOgurIQLc9QSiVNoSuMHZUA


He looks about how I expected him to look. He joins a growing number of other doomers who are, ahem, dying off before the fabled die-off occurs. All doom is ultimately personal and usually mundane.

Also rather strange that he chose to bugout in Hawaii of all places. Hardly a sustainable location despite a growing amount of solar being used.

We'll see how long his site stays up. It's been an anachronistic museum-piece for some time now.
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby Revi » Wed 01 May 2019, 14:19:16

Will shale oil make money? Not according to this article:

https://srsroccoreport.com/shale-stock- ... -industry/
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 05 May 2019, 22:24:22

Revi wrote:Will shale oil make money? Not according to this article:

https://srsroccoreport.com/shale-stock- ... -industry/


References matter. Steve St. Angelo's experience in the oil industry might be....?
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby Yoshua » Sun 12 May 2019, 12:15:43

Another U.S coal company files for bankruptcy. U.S coal production peaked a decade ago. The EROEI of coal is deteriorating as well.

https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject. ... bankruptcy
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 12 May 2019, 13:17:54

Coal use hits new record in India, with both India's domestic coal production AND coal imports hitting record levels.

[url=economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/69286279.cms]Coal use continues to grow in India[/url]

India was the world’s second largest producer of coal in 2017, the latest year for which data is available, according to the International Energy Agency (IEA). The country produced a tenth of the world’s coal, while China topped the list with 45% of global production. India was also the second largest coal importer, with a 16% share. China accounts for nearly half of global coal consumption, with India’s share at 13%.

India's economy is growing rapidly, and their use of coal is set to increase as well.
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby Revi » Wed 15 May 2019, 07:28:35

Here is the latest from Peak Oil Barrel. Will the US production be enough to hold global peak oil off until 2020? If it does it will be getting interesting very soon. We'll see...

http://peakoilbarrel.com/opec-april-production-data-3/
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Re: Peak oil debate

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 15 May 2019, 08:30:47

Revi wrote:Here is the latest from Peak Oil Barrel. Will the US production be enough to hold global peak oil off until 2020? If it does it will be getting interesting very soon. We'll see...

http://peakoilbarrel.com/opec-april-production-data-3/


With OPEC production curtailed because of issues in Libya and Venezuela, as well as a feeling of Saudi price supports, what will get interesting is that lesser demand (slightly slowing global economy appears to be happening) combined with US increasing output as long as the price remains higher brings 2 things into direct conflict.

The price needs to drop to balance supply and demand.
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