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MAJOR BREAKTHOUGH IN GEOTHERMAL ENERGY!

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 28 Nov 2020, 02:10:44

There's been a major breakthrough in Geothermal Energy. Tranditionally geothermal energy was exploited in very localized areas where heat flow was very high and the rocks were unusually hot......mostly near volcanoes and subsurface magma chambers, or along fault zones.

But now, in a major new development, a deep horizontal well in Saskatchewan was able to produce signifiant amounts of hot water from typical sedimentary rock buried deep in a typical sedimentary basin......with no volcanic heat source or fault zone involved.

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The amazing thing about this new discovery is the huge huge potential for geothermal power development that this opens up. Rather then having to target small subsurface steam reservoirs near volcanoes or along faults, geothermal drillers can now produce electricity using geothermal energy from the hot water found in deep sedimentary rock formations in many new places......formations that typically extend laterally for tens and even hundreds of miles underground.

WOW!

WHEEEEE!

THIS IS GOING TO BE BIG!!!

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Coming soon to a sedimentary basin near you......GEOTHERMAL ENERGY!!!
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Re: MAJOR BREAKTHOUGH IN GEOTHERMAL ENERGY!

Unread postby mustang19 » Sat 28 Nov 2020, 02:39:24

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Re: MAJOR BREAKTHOUGH IN GEOTHERMAL ENERGY!

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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby EduardoP » Thu 29 Jul 2021, 17:23:51

HDR geothermal energy relies on existing technologies and engineering processes such as drilling and hydraulic fracturing, techniques established by the oil and gas industry.
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Unread postby Subjectivist » Sat 31 Jul 2021, 19:47:31

EduardoP wrote:HDR geothermal energy relies on existing technologies and engineering processes such as drilling and hydraulic fracturing, techniques established by the oil and gas industry.


I have always wondered why so little effort is made exploiting hot dry rock as was proposed in the 1980's.
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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby Gmark » Mon 02 Aug 2021, 06:38:15

Subjectivist wrote:I have always wondered why so little effort is made exploiting hot dry rock as was proposed in the 1980's.


I'm not sure how significant these are:

DEEP is a Saskatchewan privately held corporation with a mission to develop Saskatchewan’s geothermal resources for power generation. DEEP’s vision is to be a producer of secure, stable and sustainable energy.DEEP is developing a unique geothermal (or earth heat) power facility in southern Saskatchewan. This project will establish the first geothermal power facility in Canada.DEEP will harness high-quality geothermal resources with existing drilling and power generation technologies to establish a long-term renewable baseload (24 hours a day, 365 days a year) power supply. DEEP’s long-term goal is to develop 100s of megawatts (MW) of baseload power facilities from small, scalable and repeatable 5-20 MW power plants, each which could power up to 5,000 households.


... and a test project underway in Alberta...
https://eavor.com/
Eavor-Loop is a fully integrated prototype closed-loop geothermal system with a novel well design and thermodynamic efficiency.

This demonstration project involves drilling, connecting, and sealing a closed loop geothermal system that consists of two vertical wells that are connected laterally at a depth of approximately 2400m. The intent of this project is to demonstrate the technical feasibility of creating a closed-loop system for geothermal systems. This project will take place utilizing sites that would not normally be viable for conventional geothermal power and/or heat production.
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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby Gmark » Wed 11 Aug 2021, 08:51:49

Emerging geothermal technology.

This is a description of the Eavor-loop project which has a little better explanation than other sources.
From https://www.bdplaw.com/publications/hot ... t-hot-air/

Eavor-Loop

Eavor Technologies Inc. (Eavor), an Alberta company, is the developer of the Eavor-Loop, a closed loop system, which consists of two vertical wells several kilometers apart connected by many horizontal multilateral wellbores. The expertise of Alberta’s drilling industry is highly applicable to projects like the Eavor-Loop that require precise drilling. The Eavor-Loop uses these horizontal wellbores as an underground “radiator” and does not require a porous and permeable formation (whether naturally occurring or enhanced through hydraulic fracturing). Due to the unique nature of the working fluids Eavor uses as a medium, it does not employ conventional completion methods, but has invented a proprietary completion technology to isolate the working fluid from surrounding rock (without loss of circulation).

The configuration of the Eavor-Loop allows the fluids to circulate naturally, thus saving the “parasitic” energy costs normally expended to pump the fluids in and out of the formation. The process is called thermosiphoning – the hot fluids in the wellbores tend to rise to the surface and the cooler fluids from which the heat energy has been extracted at the surface tend to sink. The heat energy brought to the surface is used to generate electricity in a specialized generator that operates using lower temperature fluids than conventional generators. Although the temperature of the heat source will decline over time, the decline is slow, allowing for a significant productive term. Eavor Technologies Inc. currently has a demonstration project near Rocky Mountain House, Alberta. The project was designed to prove the critical elements of the Eavor-Loop technology, not its commerciality at this stage.

Eavor-Loop technology is theoretically capable of operating at scale almost anywhere on Earth.
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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 15 Aug 2022, 17:07:46

Western governors launch bid to spur geothermal energy development

Western state governors have launched an initiative that they said could spur the development of additional geothermal energy resources.

The Heat Beneath Our Feet initiative was announced by Gov. Jared Polis (D-CO), the incoming chair of the Western Governors’ Association.

The initiative is intended to examine market, technology and policy factors that affect the development and deployment of geothermal technologies. It also will evaluate strategies to scale geothermal technologies across the West. It also will aim to develop key findings on geothermal energy applications, land use planning, and market barriers, as well as assess opportunities to improve federal mapping of and access to geothermal energy reserves and project permitting procedures on federal public lands.

Initiative findings are expected to be included in a report to be released at the WGA 2023 Annual Meeting in Boulder, Colorado.

Geothermal resources are reservoirs of hot water that exist at varying temperatures and depths below the Earth’s surface. Mile-or-more-deep wells can be drilled into underground reservoirs to tap steam and hot water that can be brought to the surface for use in a variety of applications, including electricity generation, direct use, and heating and cooling.

The U.S. holds around 25% of the world’s installed geothermal energy capacity, and 95% of that is in the Western States. California generates the most electricity from geothermal energy. The Geysers dry steam reservoir in Northern California is the largest known dry steam field in the world and has been producing electricity since 1960.

Growth in the U.S. geothermal sector has been slow over the past three decades. “If we are serious about decarbonizing energy in the Western U.S., we need to start taking advantage of the heat beneath our feet,” said Dr. Amanda Kolker, Laboratory Program Manager for Geothermal at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory.

Through the newly launched initiative, WGA intends to evaluate geothermal energy technology development in the Western states and assess the potential benefits it would offer.

There are three basic types of geothermal power plants. Dry steam plants use steam directly from a geothermal reservoir to turn generator turbines. The first geothermal power plant was built in 1904 in Tuscany, Italy, where natural steam erupted from the earth.

Flash steam plants take high-pressure hot water from deep inside the earth and convert it to steam to drive generator turbines. When the steam cools, it condenses to water and is injected back into the ground to be used again. Most geothermal power plants are flash steam plants.

Binary cycle power plants transfer the heat from geothermal hot water to another liquid. The heat causes the second liquid to turn to steam, which is used to drive a generator turbine.


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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 03 Jun 2025, 03:16:34

Wow that was lucky, just in the nick of time.

$100 Billion ‘Ghost Field’ Discovery Could Power America for 30,000 Years

Something strange is happening in America’s deserts. Massive plots of land in Utah and Nevada are being quietly snapped up in government auctions—and the buyers aren’t who you'd expect.

Backed by Gates money and Big Oil veterans, a little-known startup is turning barren land into powerhouses using Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS)—a fracking-inspired tech that could power L.A. or Chicago without carbon. One site is already feeding Google's AI data centers. Is this the next energy revolution? Or just another engineered land rush for insiders? Follow the steam trail. It might just lead to the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA5LWeLqkBs&t=313s

Sounds almost too good to be true.
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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 03 Jun 2025, 23:12:29

theluckycountry wrote:$100 Billion ‘Ghost Field’ Discovery Could Power America for 30,000 Years

Something strange is happening in America’s deserts. Massive plots of land in Utah and Nevada are being quietly snapped up in government auctions—and the buyers aren’t who you'd expect.

Backed by Gates money and Big Oil veterans, a little-known startup is turning barren land into powerhouses using Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS)—a fracking-inspired tech that could power L.A. or Chicago without carbon. One site is already feeding Google's AI data centers. Is this the next energy revolution? Or just another engineered land rush for insiders? Follow the steam trail. It might just lead to the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA5LWeLqkBs&t=313s


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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 04 Jun 2025, 08:50:59

Go on adam, invest some money in it. How much did you lose in the EV collapse? In the solar thermal debacle? It's no surprise you buy cheap used EVs. that are now actually worthless :lol:
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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 04 Jun 2025, 18:13:07

theluckycountry wrote:Go on adam, invest some money in it.


I'm not certain you are qualified to offer investment advice.

Didn't you say buy gold because, you know, it is easy and is safe and Doom is coming?

Careinke and VtSnowedin always seemed to have their investing ideas well sorted out. I don't necessarily agree with them, me being unimaginative when it comes to investing.

But they demonstrate the ability to think, apply logic and critical thinking to their decisions, and then place their bets.

You lack all of these abilities, and are ignorant to boot. I'll pass on your offer.
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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 05 Jun 2025, 21:36:39

Did you track the company down? Is it listed yet? Not many new listings these days in the energy sector I suspect. It's all going back to coal soon I suspect. Coal and perhaps nuclear, if they can convince those jittery Americans to accept them. We don't need them here as we have lots of coal but we're happy to export the uranium.
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Unread postby AdamB » Fri 06 Jun 2025, 11:09:15

theluckycountry wrote:Did you track the company down? Is it listed yet?

What company?

theluckycountry wrote:Not many new listings these days in the energy sector I suspect.

I don't invest in sectors, energy or otherwise. I don't invest in individual companies either. I'm happy to let the overall direction of markets dictate my returns, with only occasional forays into market timing. 2008 was a good one for me. 2011 a bad one. And only me 3rd of this century was to bail on the market in February of this year.

Sure has beaten investing in gold.

theluckycountry wrote: It's all going back to coal soon I suspect.

The suspicions of a uneducated fool are irrelevant. You can't even pick your favorite oil off a list.

theluckycountry wrote: Coal and perhaps nuclear, if they can convince those jittery Americans to accept them. We don't need them here as we have lots of coal but we're happy to export the uranium.


Yes...be proud of being a Chinese mining colony. First the Crown makes sure its old prison colony is disarmed because you can't trust the mentally challenged with firearms, and then the Chinese get to profit from it. Be proud of Australians finest.

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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Jun 2025, 17:17:30

Geothermal energy is a form of renewable energy that uses the constant temperatures below Earth's surface to generate power and directly heat and cool spaces. It's been around since the early 1900s and represents an enormous opportunity to accelerate the United States’ clean energy growth.

So, why does only 0.4% of the country’s total energy generation come from geothermal energy sources? To understand its potential and why it hasn’t been tapped yet, you first need to know the pros and cons of geothermal energy.
https://www.solarreviews.com/blog/geoth ... s-and-cons

Why 0.4%? Because it's a gimmick that's why. The simple fact is it's expensive both to setup and maintain and is only really practical in a very limited number of geographic locations.

It's all part of mankind's obsession with "keeping the lights on." Like most of what we have achieved over the past 100 years our electricity obsession was built on cheap fossil fuels, free dense and portable easily got energy basically. Now those cheap energy sources are going away we are scrabbling to replace them with expensive energy sources. But the system we have built, which is paid for at all endpoints by the working classes of the planet, can only function up a set price point for electricity. You go past that and people turn off their lights, factories turn off their machines because "working classes" can't afford the product.

The vast majority of people on the planet don't want these new systems. They certainly don't want to pay for them. They don't want to pay for AI server farms or BTC or huge stadiums and city-scapes burning lights all night. Corporate media etc has fooled many into thinking they want them, but then the bill arrives. For 400 years and more we have been building ever more complex, and many would argue, fragile systems, to basically give us a better more comfortable lifestyle. Great! But nearly all of it has been built on the exploitation of one or another cheap fossil fuel.

Humans being humans extrapolate these comforts forward and now assume we'll all be served breakfast by robots soon, have bases on mars (a 60 year old dream that) and until recently, enjoy abundant cheap forever-electricity from the sun and wind. As for geothermal power, be it electricity or merely water to heat our homes, is a total fringe technology and for all intents and purposes can be dismissed as such. I don't see us heading for an AI singularity at all. I see us heading for a Power-Down of monumental proportions, the beginning of which has already been made in many third world nations and is now sweeping Europe.

Energy poverty basically, the limits to growth re-balancing consumption by pushing prices beyond what people can afford as they once did. For all of my life in the 20th century I never once considered an electricity bill to be of any consequence. We used what we liked, we never thought of it. Now electricity consumption occupies the thoughts of nearly all but the wealthy classes. It's not the master resource, not a resource at all in fact, but it is the master energy source, the driver of our day to day activities. It's why all these alternatives to coal and gas are no-shows. If they were of any benefit to society we'd not be concerned by our consumption would we? We'd be burning lights and airconditioners like in the good ol days, without a thought.
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Re: Geothermal Power Technology

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 08 Jun 2025, 20:13:17

theluckycountry wrote:
Geothermal energy is a form of renewable energy that uses the constant temperatures below Earth's surface to generate power and directly heat and cool spaces. It's been around since the early 1900s and represents an enormous opportunity to accelerate the United States’ clean energy growth.

So, why does only 0.4% of the country’s total energy generation come from geothermal energy sources? To understand its potential and why it hasn’t been tapped yet, you first need to know the pros and cons of geothermal energy.
https://www.solarreviews.com/blog/geoth ... s-and-cons
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 09 Jun 2025, 07:49:05

You're lonely aren't you adam :cry:
I wish I could say something to make you feel better but that's not my function here. I'm here to report on the collapse of Western Civ, and of America specifically since it is Western Civ. Perhaps kub will pop back in and throw you a bone, anythings possible...
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Unread postby AdamB » Mon 09 Jun 2025, 07:56:34

theluckycountry wrote:You're lonely aren't you adam :cry:

Now that's a good one. How do you get along with your kids Lucky? Do they visit? Are they accomplished in their own right?

Or has your uneducated nature and native ignorance and prejudice been too hard to hide from prospective females and they see an asshat like you a mile away?
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 10 Jun 2025, 21:39:54

Did you say something adam?

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theluckycountry wrote:Did you say something adam?


Yes. Were the words I used too big to fit into your pinhead?
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