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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 24 Jan 2024, 00:23:09

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theluckycountry wrote:Increasing Psychopathic Behavior Is A Sign That Society Is On The Verge Of Breaking Down



The United States has always been a country of simps, suckers, sellouts, and sycophants. The only reason things have been so good here is a wild abundance of food, energy, desirable land, and navigable waterways. There are weak countries on both borders and protective waters on both coasts. Everyone in America should have enough for a comfortable, peaceful, and abundant life. Yet, there is this need to attack rather than help fellow Americans, to feel better about yourself. Without a natural enemy, the United States government constantly has to create "the enemy" to keep everyone else in line...

The only thing holding everything together is an abundance of food. There has never been famine in America nor starvation. America's problems are ones of plenty. How do people behave when their basic needs are met? Do they become peaceful and cooperative. Or, do they become selfish, conceited, raging assholes that thinks the whole world revolves around them and what they want?

That is American exceptionalism.


Well I stand corrected, Indeed a lot the "peaceful society" I attribute to that nation was during a short period after the second WW when the male population was a lot lower and there was abundant jobs and money for all. So what you're saying is that the US is basically a society similar to that of Mexico and that it hasn't collapsed to those levels yet?

I was reading and watching vids about hurricane Otis that recently destroyed Acapulco. It was a fascinating story since there was little warning, it was simply a tropical storm offshore but it strengthened to a category 5 hurricane in less that 12 hours. Acapulco, the jewel of the 1960's movie stars no longer exists. The Mexican government sent in 25,000 troops to quell the violence but could not. Total lawlessness, a failed state certainly. Of course it wasn't always that way, but it is now. From your comments I presume America will follow the self-same path to lawlessness. What good are police in armored vehicles when they are outnumbered 1000:1?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/vi ... -105175704
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby noobtube » Wed 24 Jan 2024, 01:44:15

theluckycountry wrote:Indeed a lot the "peaceful society" I attribute to that nation was during a short period after the second WW when the male population was a lot lower and there was abundant jobs and money for all.


That's it exactly.

theluckycountry wrote:So what you're saying is that the US is basically a society similar to that of Mexico and that it hasn't collapsed to those levels yet?


Mexico HATES immigrants. They are the polar opposite of the United States, on that matter. They tolerate Americans in their country, because of the dollar and US jobs. The geography of Mexico is so inferior to America that they almost cannot be compared. Mexico has no navigable waterway. Its mail system is primitive by American standards. Its sewer systems and water treatment are inferior. As the saying goes, don't drink the water (unless it's bottled). It has limited arable land. The bulk of the population lives in a belt around the middle of the country, that is very mountainous. Very hostile to its southern neighbors, Belize and Central America.

The conditions just cannot exist for the United States to become Mexico. The immigrant invasion is entirely one way.

theluckycountry wrote:I was reading and watching vids about hurricane Otis that recently destroyed Acapulco. It was a fascinating story since there was little warning, it was simply a tropical storm offshore but it strengthened to a category 5 hurricane in less that 12 hours. Acapulco, the jewel of the 1960's movie stars no longer exists. The Mexican government sent in 25,000 troops to quell the violence but could not. Total lawlessness, a failed state certainly. Of course it wasn't always that way, but it is now. From your comments I presume America will follow the self-same path to lawlessness. What good are police in armored vehicles when they are outnumbered 1000:1?

https://abcnews.go.com/International/vi ... -105175704


Americans, as a group, are too docile, fat, and drugged-up to launch any kind of sustained attack anywhere in the country. You may have a Jan. 6th, or a kidnap plot, but they fizzle out quickly because there is too much to lose for the average citizen.

As bad as the news makes it out to be in America, it is still an amazing place to live. It's just that the United States government decided to declare war on the population. With their militarized police, sensationalized state-run media, massive prison system, price-gouging medical system, usurious banks, bloated Big Pharma, lotteries, and casinos, it feels as if the government wants to destroy the population.

I blame it on the end of the gold standard in 1965 and the removal of money from circulation. It seems, that was the year when the United States government just decided to liquidate the population to pay its bills (see Vietnam War, feminism, abortion, etc.).
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 24 Jan 2024, 16:51:56

noobtube wrote:As bad as the news makes it out to be in America, it is still an amazing place to live. It's just that the United States government decided to declare war on the population.

I blame it on the end of the gold standard in 1965 and the removal of money from circulation. It seems, that was the year when the United States government just decided to liquidate the population to pay its bills (see Vietnam War, feminism, abortion, etc.).


An amazing place as long as you have one of the good jobs, and are the right color for your neighborhood I suspect. The switch off the gold standard was indeed a disaster, internationally, internally though the currency had been fully paper since the 1930's though the debt levels associated with it had been kept under control. There was a 100 year period of American history I researched long ago, back in the 1800's, where there was basically very little paper money employed and the nation experienced mild deflation over the period due to innovation basically. Money supply was in balance with mine production but of course that couldn't work today with the much higher population.

Large populations are needed (were needed) to fight wars but they are inherently bad for a nation with limited natural resources. The US now has limited resources relative to it's population. Personally I think falling population is a good thing, China, Russia, they have been declining now and the western pundits point to that as a disaster but it's really only a disaster if you have a bloated social security ponzi scheme running. To my mind the mass replacement level immigration works in two ways, it helps keep the ponzi going and it destroys national cohesion.

But change is coming, the 4th turning, call it what you like, I think the populations of the planet will be a lot lower in 50 years, food if nothing else dictates that. The reason I compared America in the future to Mexico is because of the immigration, of Mexicans. I doubt it's just all the happy law abiding ones coming up and they bring their culture with them don't they.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby noobtube » Thu 25 Jan 2024, 01:51:35

theluckycountry wrote:An amazing place as long as you have one of the good jobs, and are the right color for your neighborhood I suspect. The switch off the gold standard was indeed a disaster, internationally, internally though the currency had been fully paper since the 1930's though the debt levels associated with it had been kept under control. There was a 100 year period of American history I researched long ago, back in the 1800's, where there was basically very little paper money employed and the nation experienced mild deflation over the period due to innovation basically. Money supply was in balance with mine production but of course that couldn't work today with the much higher population.

Large populations are needed (were needed) to fight wars but they are inherently bad for a nation with limited natural resources. The US now has limited resources relative to it's population. Personally I think falling population is a good thing, China, Russia, they have been declining now and the western pundits point to that as a disaster but it's really only a disaster if you have a bloated social security ponzi scheme running. To my mind the mass replacement level immigration works in two ways, it helps keep the ponzi going and it destroys national cohesion.

But change is coming, the 4th turning, call it what you like, I think the populations of the planet will be a lot lower in 50 years, food if nothing else dictates that. The reason I compared America in the future to Mexico is because of the immigration, of Mexicans. I doubt it's just all the happy law abiding ones coming up and they bring their culture with them don't they.


The older I get, the more inevitable this seems. By the time the bill comes due for all this, I may be too old to care (either demented or dead). It was fun while it lasted.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 27 Jan 2024, 21:09:33

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I remember a comment made after 9/11, for a few weeks men stopped sodomizing their wives and girlfriends. They got a little spiritual in other words.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 21 Feb 2024, 20:13:35

Jackpot: NYC Mayor To Give Migrants Pre-loaded Debit Cards Worth Up To $10,000

A shocking ten million illegals have crossed the southern border into the US under President Biden's watch so far. Thousands of lucky migrants who end up in the progressive hellhole of New York City could soon receive pre-loaded debit cards with amounts as much as $10,000 under a new controversial program launched by Democrat Mayor Eric Adams.

The New York Post reports Adam's genius plan to give unvetted illegals taxpayer funds is set to begin with 500 families staying at the luxurious Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby yellowcanoe » Wed 21 Feb 2024, 21:30:32

theluckycountry wrote:Jackpot: NYC Mayor To Give Migrants Pre-loaded Debit Cards Worth Up To $10,000

A shocking ten million illegals have crossed the southern border into the US under President Biden's watch so far. Thousands of lucky migrants who end up in the progressive hellhole of New York City could soon receive pre-loaded debit cards with amounts as much as $10,000 under a new controversial program launched by Democrat Mayor Eric Adams.

The New York Post reports Adam's genius plan to give unvetted illegals taxpayer funds is set to begin with 500 families staying at the luxurious Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan.
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A New York Post article I read indicated that the cards can only be utilized at supermarkets and small convenience stores as the intention is for the funds to be used to purchase food. This a limitation that the credit card companies can readily apply to a card. The corporate Visa card I used to have from my employer had restrictions on what kind of businesses I could use it at.

The more important question is why do governments feel they are obligated to spend taxpayers money to support uninvited migrants? It's certainly an issue in Canada where the Federal government doesn't do much to discourage migrants from coming while most of the cost of supporting migrants is footed by provincial and municipal governments.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 22 Feb 2024, 19:14:07

Australia has been encouraging refugees since the end of the second world war, and in a sense they were needed to build out the country as it was not very populated. We welcomed Poles and Italians, Greeks and other white immigrants displaced by the war. After the Vietnam war we dropped the "White Australia policy" and lot of southern Vietnamese were brought in as they feared persecution from the northern government. Then Central European immigrants and Lebanese, more recently a smattering of Sudanese from that war zone. Always people from warzones.

There is no group larger than about 1% once you exclude the Chinese and Indian immigrants and this is good because while they migrate to the cities and cluster into their cheap suburbs, they cause no major disruption to society as a whole. The Chinese and Indians work hard, they are a big tax base and a lot of them came out under special visas, they had to be millionaires and start a business basically. Immigrants do cause trouble though, crime, but just as much and more is committed by the natural born Aussies and I doubt things would be much different had we never allowed the immigration. We had plenty of organized crime here before they came, my father told me of the straight razor gangs of the 1930's, youths who ran riot during the depression years.

All cities turn into hell holes eventually but the people born in them can't see this because they have known nothing else. You really have to move to a quiet rural community to discover what life can be like without a million people living around you. It's like going back in time, at least that was my experience. Like going back to the 1960's and early 70's where in the city I grew up in you could stand by a main road at 2am and not see a car pass for 30 minutes. Where the neighbors all talked to each other, where they smiled in the street at each other.

Cities are a necessary element of society, I just feel sorry for those who have to live in them in these later years of insanity.
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 29 Feb 2024, 02:02:47

"Who Could Be Next": Top Canadian Pension Fund Sells Manhattan Office Tower For $1, Sparking Firesale Panic https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ime-buyers
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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 29 Feb 2024, 02:18:08

Food. Many years back the populace was priced out of steak and into chicken and ground beef, now the CEO of Kelloggs has a better idea for cash strapped families, GMO Cereal for dinner. Bon Appétit my American friends.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 03484.html

Cereal, it's, Surreal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Dw1bjRxY0&t=15s

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Re: The Death of Cities

Unread postby careinke » Thu 29 Feb 2024, 03:59:55

theluckycountry wrote:Food. Many years back the populace was priced out of steak and into chicken and ground beef, now the CEO of Kelloggs has a better idea for cash strapped families, GMO Cereal for dinner. Bon Appétit my American friends.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 03484.html

Cereal, it's, Surreal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Dw1bjRxY0&t=15s

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I saw that interview with the CEO and was completely disappointed, but not surprised. It's a win/win/win/win situation.

First, the customer gets some calories cheaper than real food at least for an hour or so until they get hungry again.

Second, Kellog gets to take all the money from the poor to make the rich even richer, especially if you take shrink inflation into consideration.

Third, the American Diabetes Association gets to obtain even more donations to help with this crises.

Finally, we can't forget the health care system which captures individuals for life, overpaying for medications until type three diabetes sets in where they drain the rest of your estate performing "Lifesaving procedures" on people who really are not even the same person anymore.

I prefer real food.

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