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Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Thu 28 Apr 2022, 18:36:54

theluckycountry wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:Exxon made a profit of $5.12 per share last year. With 4,225,673,726 shares outstanding that is a tidy little profit. :)



April 21, 2020
President Donald Trump on Tuesday promised the $181 billion oil and gas industry a federal bailout, after the price of oil suffered historic drops... Trump met with Big Oil executives earlier this month in the White House. In the foreground is Darren Woods, Chief Executive Officer of ExxonMobil.


Their profits are guaranteed.


https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/big-oi ... e-promise/

Actually during the Trump years Exxon had such bad results they were removed from the Dow 30 where they had sat for decades. They have come back a lot with the rise in oil prices under Biden policies but their profits were never guaranteed.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby Doly » Fri 29 Apr 2022, 15:32:56

Tell millions of people about the relentless rise in energy, the collapsing state of the power grid and how in 20 years it might not be functional? No way. Tell them a pack of lies instead and send them deeper into a state of cognitive dissonance.


I think there has to be a little bit more to it than that. After all, people can handle pretty horrible things like wars when they happen. So why couldn't they handle the notion that a war might happen before it happens, for example? (I'm thinking about what happened in Ukraine right before the invasion.)

I have a theory that maybe cognitive dissonance can make people sick, not just psychologically uncomfortable, but that it can make some people very sick, and that brings all sorts of other difficult consequences. It might explain the odd attitude of some doctors with the coronavirus. Once a war comes, with people getting killed all over the place, some people getting really sick doesn't look like such a big deal any more. But in peacetime it does. Well, it's the best theory I have right now for a lot of the weirdness that has been going on.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sat 30 Apr 2022, 04:44:21

This is a very well thought out presentation on renewables vs. nuclear power and climate change and environmental impacts.
Most logical thing I have seen in quite some time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-yALPEpV4w
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 30 Apr 2022, 06:58:54

India is roasting again, early in the season too. Well that's what happens when you're born in the wrong part of the wrong hemisphere.

Life-threatening heat waves arrived in India a month earlier than normal, shattering temperature records, with highs reaching over 100 degrees Fahrenheit (38 degrees Celsius) -- and it will only get hotter.
The worst of the heat wave is expected late this week into this weekend with high temperatures approaching 10-15 degrees Fahrenheit (5-8 degrees Celsius) above normal across northern and northwestern India as well as parts of Pakistan.
Over one billion people will be subjected to excessive heat -- 10% of the world's population, according to Scott Duncan, an extreme climate expert.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/weather/ ... index.html

Nighttime 'lows' more dangerous than highs 01:07
Little to no relief will come during the overnight hours as minimum temperatures will not dip below 86 degrees Fahrenheit (30 Celsius) in many areas.

Prolonged periods of warm nights can prove deadly as they limit the body's ability to recover from daytime heat
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This can be the killer alright, no recovery, day after day, poor bastards. I wonder how it can be blamed on Biden :razz:
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 30 Apr 2022, 07:38:19

vtsnowedin wrote:This is a very well thought out presentation on renewables vs. nuclear power and climate change and environmental impacts.
Your reaction and comments?


He could have dressed up a bit considering his audience, but I guess the 'image' of the activist has to be maintained. I wonder what his net worth is? How much his foundation is worth and how much big nuclear donate to it? Greenpeace is pretty well funded by the natural gas industry I believe.
Very scary that image of two power workers burning to death on a wind turbine, thank God nothing dangerous ever happens at nuclear plants. At least nothing that can't be hushed up, burred under a rug or otherwise downplayed.

Cleaning the flight deck of the USS Ronald Reagan after it was contaminated of Sendai due to Fukishima.

Photos taken by Navy personnel aboard the ship show the crew decontaminating the flight deck with brooms and foamy cleanser – clad in fatigues, hoodies and ski caps, many with their faces exposed.

In the three years since, dozens have developed cancers, at least one has borne a child with birth defects, and all “must now endure a lifetime of radiation poisoning and suffering which could have and should have been avoided,” the lawsuit says.


https://www.ocregister.com/2014/04/07/l ... s-sailors/


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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sat 30 Apr 2022, 08:10:26

So you think the losses on the Ronald Reagan outweigh the thousands if not millions of deaths from other air pollution and climate change?. Poor thinking on your part.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby Doly » Mon 02 May 2022, 16:07:32

So you think the losses on the Ronald Reagan outweigh the thousands if not millions of deaths from other air pollution and climate change?. Poor thinking on your part.


Not sure if that's what was implied, but anyway, if that was the idea, it's very common. I worked for an NGO for a while, and we knew quite well that statistics of thousands or millions of people don't move people. Stories about small numbers of people (and literally, they're best if they're about just one person, or one family) are what moves most people. Most people look at graphs or charts or stats and feel nothing, and those who feel something, often feel the wrong things (like "economic growth - yeah!!").
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 02 May 2022, 19:27:35

Doly wrote:
So you think the losses on the Ronald Reagan outweigh the thousands if not millions of deaths from other air pollution and climate change?. Poor thinking on your part.


Not sure if that's what was implied, but anyway, if that was the idea, it's very common. I worked for an NGO for a while, and we knew quite well that statistics of thousands or millions of people don't move people. Stories about small numbers of people (and literally, they're best if they're about just one person, or one family) are what moves most people. Most people look at graphs or charts or stats and feel nothing, and those who feel something, often feel the wrong things (like "economic growth - yeah!!").
Well I prefer to look at total deaths of the population over decades not the very few accidental deaths from mishaps. Looking through that lens Nuclear electric generation is by far the safest course we can take both from a public safety view and the impacts on the environment AKA climate change.
That is not a popular position, I realize, but these same people today have said we need to move away from commercial fertilizer to "Green " alternatives like dung and compost. These same people want to get rid of all the cows emitting methane from belches from one end and the other end. If they get rid of all those polluting cows just where do they think they can get the dung for fertilizer from.
And if truth be known most of the "dung" is already being utilized on the farmlands of the world to good effect so there is very little unused dung to be used as a replacement for millions of tons of commercial fertilizer.
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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby Subjectivist » Fri 27 May 2022, 17:32:22

Forecasting Change: How global warming, rising sea levels impact future hurricane seasons

Samantha Dunne, Tom Sorrells

NHC Director Ken Graham addresses what’s in store for storm season

‘Little wiggles matter:’ Here’s why Central Florida has gotten ‘lucky’ in recent hurricane seasons
‘Little wiggles matter:’ Here’s why Central Florida has gotten ‘lucky’ in recent hurricane seasons

These last few years in the Atlantic have proven more active than usual when it comes to the number of powerful hurricanes making landfall, according to storm experts.

News 6 chief meteorologist Tom Sorrells sat down with Ken Graham, director of the National Hurricane Center, to kick off the conversation about how the changing climate and the planet’s recent storm streak might impact future hurricane seasons.

TS:

We’re coming up on seven straight seasons of above average production of hurricanes by the atmosphere in the Earth. So are we ever going to get back to normal?

KG:

Take this in. We’ve had more (Category) 4 and 5 landfalls in the United States from 2017 to 2021 that we did from 1963 to 2016.

TS:

Wow.

KG:

It’s been busy. It’s been incredibly active. So if you look at it, eventually we’ll have some season that that gets averaged or maybe below with time, but right now we’re just (in) an incredibly active period of time.

TS:

What do you think about when it comes to the changing climate we’re all living through?

KG:

90% of fatalities in these tropical systems (come) from the water. So what’s going to happen in the future with it, with a, a warmer climate? Well, one, your sea level is going to come up. So, you know, you’ve talked about these hurricanes that produce storm surge, you can see not just higher amounts of storm surge, but further inland, so further in your rivers and further inland, associated with that, that storm surge. The other part is the rainfall. It’s pure physics. A warmer atmosphere can hold more moisture. So the rainfall rates, we’re seeing an increase in some of those rainfall rates. You’re gonna see heavy rain, not just on the coast, but well inland.

TS:

So in your opinion, it’s not necessarily about an increase in wind speed, or like, stronger storms?

KG:

It’s not even... a factor of the number of storms. We’re naming more, we see more, we got better tools, we got satellites, we got aircraft that, you know, see things that we would (not) have seen 20 or 30 years ago.

Other storm experts also contributed to the conversation.

“There’s some question about... storms are slowing down. That’s, I think, still an open question. Obviously, if storms were to slow down, that would tend to mean generally more rainfall (too) because the storm is moving slower over your particular area,” said Dr. Phil Klotzbach, Ph.D., a tropical weather and climate research scientist at Colorado State University. “While the Atlantic has hurricane numbers (that) have gone up since 1990, globally, they’ve actually gone down because the Pacific has gone down quite a bit. And the Pacific generally... generates many more storms in an average year.”

But Jamie Rome, deputy director with the National Hurricane Center, argued that people often get hung up on numbers and arguments revolving around what causes the storm without focusing on its impact.

“If the globe is warming, and it is, it’s going to retain more moisture, right? It’s going to hold it better. And then a hurricane is going to come and extract it all. So it means it’s going to rain. It’s going to rain harder in future hurricanes. You also don’t need me to tell you that the sea level is rising. You can see it, we can all see it,” Rome said. “We go to the coast, the coastline’s changing, sea levels rising—that is a higher base or foundation upon which future hurricanes will have to push storm surge. So the storm surge will be deeper and go farther inland. So whether the numbers are increasing or not, the storms that are forming are packing a bigger punch.”

John Cangialosi, NHC senior hurricane specialist, said as hurricane impacts grow worse, cities along the coastline should prepare.

“And many cities are (preparing), you know, I’m from New York, they’re preparing especially after Sandy, they’re building better sea walls. Houston is doing it, Miami is doing it. So you know, there’s a lot occurring in a lot of the major metropolitan areas that are vulnerable to this, which is great to see,” Cangialosi said.

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Re: Global Warming / Climate Changes Pt. 23

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 11 Jun 2022, 00:04:49

India and China have both announced they will increase their domestic coal production by about 700 million tons.

That's a HUGE increase.

For comparison, total coal production in the USA is about 600 million tons.....so CHINDIA is adding the equivalent of another USA in coal production.

india-and-china-coal-production-surging-700m-tons-year-thats-greater-all-us-coal-output

Curiously, they will both still be in good standing in the Paris Climate Accords.

Thats because the Paris Climate Accords are an utter farce that require ZERO CO2 emissions cuts. The Paris Climate Accords don't even require stable CO2 emissions. All they required is a country willing to sign the Accord. Thats how utterly nonsensical the Paris Climate Accords are.

The Paris Climate accords are TOTAL BS. TOTALLY WORTHLESS. TOTAL GREENWASHING. TOTALLY NOTHING.

The Paris Climate Accords are why global warming will continue and even accelerate as move ahead. Because our politicians lied to us and our media lied to us and all we got was meaningless and worthless and fraudulent climate accords from the like of Obama and the rest of the frauds who signed it.

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Obama and Chairman Xi committed a fraud on the world at the Paris Climate Accords.

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