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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Tue 01 Nov 2016, 17:08:24

Revi - Mr. R may have had the big stick back in the 1800's. But anytime in the last 50 years the PA legislators could have put a severance tax on future oil/NG any time they chose to. Years ago I wrote to editorial pages in some local PA newspapers explaining in detail how their citizens were getting screwed by the oil companies. Never saw a single one printed.

So I give up. Now it's up to you to get them stirred up. LOL.
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Tue 01 Nov 2016, 22:57:19

Revi - And just so you have some ammo to use in PA: if they had the same severance tax as Texas the state would have received $120 million in just the last 10 years. And if like La: about $350 million. And given the latest surge in PA production they would be getting the value of 320,000 bbls per year (Texas) or 875,000 bbls per year (La).
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby Revi » Wed 02 Nov 2016, 08:34:32

Wow! I was amazed at how quickly Pennsylvania went for the whole fracking thing. There were old wells back in the woods when I used to live near there that would pump a few barrels a month into a wooden tank. They were still running since the early 1900's and late 1800's. I knew people who had farms with free natural gas. The old wells would still provide them with enough to heat their houses and barns. Then they brought in these big thumper trucks that were seismically testing for oil and gas, and the fracking boom began. Funny how PA never made much on the first oil boom, and they missed out on the second one also. Do you think there will be a third? The places with oil and gas are still some of the poorest in the state.

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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Wed 02 Nov 2016, 08:46:07

Revi - "Do you think there will be a third?" Based upon a big increase in oil prices perhaps. Based upon new trends or tech: very unlikely IMHO. PA has a somewhat unique problem: tens of thousands of very old wells that were not plugged properly. And most with unrecorded locations. So an unknown risk by pressuring up on new wells near those old ones. Just one more reason for the state to tap the oil patch for some $'s

Curious: have you wondered why an oil patch hand has been a whistle blower over PA severance taxes?
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby Zarquon » Wed 02 Nov 2016, 23:58:24

Leveling the playing field a little?
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Thu 03 Nov 2016, 09:46:02

z - "Leveling the playing field a little?" Exactly! LOL. Some folks here still thinks the oil patch is one big happy band of brothers. That we all support the efforts of each other. Such a childish inability to understand even the basic nature of competition.

For instance conventional oil/NG explorers, like the Rockman's company, would have been very happy had frac'ng been banned in the entire country. It would have allowed them to sell their production at higher prices. The NG boom in the Marcellus completely shut down the Rockman's S La drilling program. And shutting down all the segments of the Keystone pipeline system would have been great.

It really is that simple.
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby Revi » Thu 03 Nov 2016, 11:41:25

The film will be shown next on Weds. Nov. 16th at 6:30 in Diamond 153 at Colby College in Waterville, Maine. It's going to be uuuuuuge!
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby Revi » Sun 24 Oct 2021, 16:46:02

Still under 2000 hits. It's a very well made, watchable film, but I think the concept of peak oil fell off of most people's radar screen. It's on youtube now, so just type in Peak Oil: A Love Story. I'll try to link it here:
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby AdamB » Mon 01 Nov 2021, 14:53:06

Revi wrote:Still under 2000 hits. It's a very well made, watchable film, but I think the concept of peak oil fell off of most people's radar screen. It's on youtube now, so just type in Peak Oil: A Love Story. I'll try to link it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5efV-w8Ejk


Fell off most people's radar is one way of putting it. Another would be "OMG WE LOOK LIKE HAROLD CAMPING!!!" and folks decided to glom onto climate change instead. But I watched it Iver. Even gave a blow by blow review right here on peakoi.com. I liked your mom in it, standing up for the steadfast nature of her boy.
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby Revi » Wed 03 Nov 2021, 20:16:51

Thanks for your review Adam B! I am thinking of going on a "Told Ya So" tour of local places. What do you think?
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 03 Nov 2021, 22:39:14

Revi wrote:Thanks for your review Adam B! I am thinking of going on a "Told Ya So" tour of local places. What do you think?


Do it!! Just roll back any implications of falling for peak oils 2002,2005,2006, or 2008 and it'll come out a little more credible. No one will have heard from the amateur hour folks claiming the 2015 one, so you can skip that one, and just move right to pretending 2018 is the Rapture. Without..well...the rapture itself occuring if course, but you can gloss that over. Lead with mom, she was great.
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby Revi » Wed 10 Nov 2021, 18:46:34

Thanks. I think this time it's for real. It would have been nice if anything at all was done back in the early 2000s. It seems like the only thing that has slowed fossil fuel use was covid. Now it's back to full speed ahead.
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Re: Peak Oil Film on Kickstarter

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 10 Nov 2021, 22:18:13

Revi wrote:Thanks. I think this time it's for real.


Oh Revi, of COURSE you do. Your unshakeable faith in church teachings has never been questioned in any place I've bumped into you.

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It would have been nice if anything at all was done back in the early 2000s.


It was. Look at what you did, building your own EV. I'm lazy, I waited until the 2008 peak oil caused car manufacturers to build me a peak oil solution, but you Revi are OG when it comes to this stuff. Plenty was done by some, even more by folks like you. Creating movies, get mom and other family involved, pitching it to the local churches and neighbors, I mean those known for just blogging like Gail and some of the TOD retreads are lillyputian compared to you.

Revi wrote: It seems like the only thing that has slowed fossil fuel use was covid. Now it's back to full speed ahead.


Oh, the 2008 recession slowed crude oil growth. The global peak oil in 1979 lasted for what, 15 years before we began using and producing that much again? I think the world needs a good blood letting in the energy industry, zap the consumers hard, get more folks into EVs, solar panels for everyone, build some nukes, keep producing more natural gas than anyone else on the planet and exporting it willy nilly. Supply and demand will balance at some price or another, and folks will make their micro economic transportation decisions, and most likely when all is said and done, more people will be like you and me than those neanderthals burning a valuable chemical feedstock for nothing more than to take johnny to little league practice.
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