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Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 19 Aug 2021, 11:48:33

Baduila wrote:You can see the 2nd law of thermodynamics working.


You know, I thought I was going to be able to resist responding to this, one of the silliest threads in the history of a long discredited idea, but then you just had to write this.

Baduila wrote:Has any one of the trolls ever succeeded to understand the steady state entropy rate balance for control volumes ? And the consequences for oil production exergy ?


No more need to understand what you claim is important as it is to ponder how Santa Claus flies. Keep up the good work, giving peak oilers a reputation for operational and theoretical ignorance.
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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 19 Aug 2021, 18:41:32

Baduila wrote:The price trend gets very volatile, but i assume the production trend gets more stabile.

Says the clown who knows nothing about actual math or science, and can't spell "stable" as well.

But no doubt, what YOU say is credible, even given your track record re ETP. :roll:
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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby suxs » Sun 22 Aug 2021, 00:05:24

@ Outcast Searcher

Since my comment is not appearing in the other section, I am repeating for the sake of clarification.

If you don't know that burning fossil fuels produce CO2, do you know anything re climate change?


No, you fail entirely in reading comprehension. Natural gas produces greenhouse gasses - CO2, CH4, N2O - only when combusted!! I responded to the statement that NG is a more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. CO2 is one of the greenhouse gasses emitted from burning NG. This comment makes no fucking sense and is the very definition of a FALSE EQUIVALENCY. Good grief.

Wow. I can't believe it's necessary to provide further clarification to the obvious.
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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sun 22 Aug 2021, 16:15:36

suxs wrote:@ Outcast Searcher

Since my comment is not appearing in the other section, I am repeating for the sake of clarification.

If you don't know that burning fossil fuels produce CO2, do you know anything re climate change?


No, you fail entirely in reading comprehension. Natural gas produces greenhouse gasses - CO2, CH4, N2O - only when combusted!! I responded to the statement that NG is a more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. CO2 is one of the greenhouse gasses emitted from burning NG. This comment makes no fucking sense and is the very definition of a FALSE EQUIVALENCY. Good grief.

Wow. I can't believe it's necessary to provide further clarification to the obvious.

And yet, you back your opinions with nothing.

Should I be impressed? I don't think so.

If NG is no issue unless combusted, then WHY, REAL WORLD, all the concern about NG leakage into the atmosphere from broken pipes etc?
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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby Roxy » Tue 07 Sep 2021, 09:31:57

Hey Baudilla,

What do you expect to happen in the next 1-3 years with our economy?
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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby AdamB » Thu 09 Sep 2021, 09:36:42

Roxy wrote:Hey Baudilla,

What do you expect to happen in the next 1-3 years with our economy?


Well, it is going to crash obviously. Find me a peak oiler who thought it wasn't (let alone an ETP halfwit) and it will be an amazing day.

Just don't ask the logic next question...why do they keep claiming the same thing, for the same reason, and why aren't they ever right? You ask and answer that question, and any thinking person then instantly realizes that bobble heads always nod because that is all they can do.
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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 09 Sep 2021, 10:33:47

Roxy wrote:Hey Baudilla,

What do you expect to happen in the next 1-3 years with our economy?

Since I didn't notice a response from Baudilla, I'll opine with one thing that appears predictable -- Covid-19 impact.

What's disappointing is that as long as Covid-19 isn't brought under fairly good control (like the way things seemed to be going in June), economic growth will certainly be less than it could be. Articles I've seen are talking about a couple points of lost economic growth or so, which is of course MASSIVELY significant.

And the anti-mask, anti-vaxx, conspiracy spreading, "freedom" folks which only make it worse, are screwing up their OWN freedom, re the ability to live life relatively normally, re their behavior toward Covid-19, science, and rationality.

So they're messing up their OWN freedom, and of course, re various conspiracy theories, will continue to claim that other groups, "i.e. collectively 'they'" are "in it together" and "causing it".

If it weren't so pathetic, and Covid weren't killing millions, and the deaths and hospitalizations and long Covid cases march on in huge numbers.

We can hope that delta is the last big wave, but there's no assurance of that and HOPING doesn't actually do much to solve problems of fact, requiring science and technology to be dealt with effectively.
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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby Baduila » Wed 15 Sep 2021, 11:12:17

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@roxy:

Define "our". This depends on the country where you live.
Some countries have collapsed: Venezuela, Haiti, Syria, Irak, Libanon, Libya....
Others will follow: India....
Puerto Rico will be the first part of the USA collapsing.

The more oil the economy uses and needs, the sooner the downturn.
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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 15 Sep 2021, 15:52:47

Baduila wrote:Some countries have collapsed: Venezuela, Haiti, Syria, Irak, Libanon, Libya....
Others will follow: India....
Puerto Rico will be the first part of the USA collapsing.

The more oil the economy uses and needs, the sooner the downturn.


What does the ebb and flow of third world countries have to do with your meaningless graphs?
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Re: Mid-Year ETP MAP Update Pt. 2

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 16 Sep 2021, 10:14:45

Baduila wrote:The more oil the economy uses and needs, the sooner the downturn.

There's the real world, and then there's ETP blowhards.

In the real world WTI is solidly back above 70 on continued US drawdowns.

ETP scammers claimed WTI would be $2 at the end of 2020. How likely is THAT? ETp scammers claimed crude oil would be "unaffordable" at any price it could be pumped for, since the global economy would be so bad.

And that was when we knew nothing of Covid-19, and its drag on the global economy.

In the real world, plug in electric vehicles are projected to be at about 7% of light vehicle sales for 2021, and that's continued to escalate at an accelerating pace. That's over 6 million plug in electric vehicles. First world laws and financial incentives (like lots of credits) will support that.

https://insideevs.com/news/530428/globa ... -july2021/

The less oil is needed to be burned for fuel for running ICE cars, the better for the availability of global crude supplies for things like global petrochemical needs.

Your notions though many, are not worth a penny.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Mika ... ed_Yum-Yum

But keep posting utter nonsense, as I know you will. Maybe you should branch out into other areas of your deep knowledge. Flat earth proofs, perhaps?
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