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THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 9 (merged)

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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 9 (merged)

Unread postby diemos » Tue 01 Jun 2021, 08:01:22

dissident wrote:Italy should get the credit for producing Fermi.


Fine, then let's also give Italy credit for the fascist racial laws that caused him to flee to the US in 1938 to protect his Jewish wife.
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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 9 (merged)

Unread postby dissident » Wed 02 Jun 2021, 09:31:42

diemos wrote:
dissident wrote:Italy should get the credit for producing Fermi.


Fine, then let's also give Italy credit for the fascist racial laws that caused him to flee to the US in 1938 to protect his Jewish wife.


Cute BS. You claim the achievements of the individual as your national achievement. Are you all closet collectivists?

If you are going to engage in who owns intelligence, then clearly in the case of Fermi, it is the place where he grew up, got an education and developed as a scientist. That was not the USA.

People who claim that they are number one in everything clearly have issues. They are insecure in their supremacy. And judging by the US school system that is indeed something to be insecure about.
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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 9 (merged)

Unread postby JuanP » Tue 15 Jun 2021, 02:43:31

"BREST Fast Neutron Reactor: Russia Offers a New Nuclear Paradigm for Sustainable Development"
https://sputniknews.com/russia/20210612 ... velopment/

"Although nuclear energy is regarded as nonrenewable, uranium-238 remains the most common isotope of the chemical element found in nature with a relative abundance of 99 percent. As of January 2019, identified uranium resources stand at around 8 million tons of uranium metal. After implementing fuel-recycling fast reactor technology, the estimated supplies will be enough to drive the nuclear industry for thousands of years, the magazine Scientific American forecast in 2009."

"The BREST-OD-300 reactor is projected to start operating in 2026: its fuel production facility is expected to be built by 2023, while the construction of an irradiated fuel reprocessing module is scheduled to start by 2024.

"The successful implementation of this project will allow [Russia] to become the world's first owner of nuclear power technology that fully meets the principles of sustainable development in terms of environment, accessibility, reliability, and efficient use of resources", Director General of Rosatom Alexey Likhachev, believes."
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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 9 (merged)

Unread postby dissident » Tue 15 Jun 2021, 10:10:21

A key feature of this reactor is that it is designed to burn actinide waste. Fast neutron breeder reactors did a good job of consuming so-called waste from conventional reactors, but still produced high radiation isotope waste that needed 300 years to fully decay. The BREST-300 will be the first fully integrated reactor and fuel reprocessing plant.
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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 9 (merged)

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 16 Jun 2021, 21:45:22

dissident wrote:A key feature of this reactor is that it is designed to burn actinide waste. Fast neutron breeder reactors did a good job of consuming so-called waste from conventional reactors, but still produced high radiation isotope waste that needed 300 years to fully decay. The BREST-300 will be the first fully integrated reactor and fuel reprocessing plant.


It is a bloody shame the NIMBY crowd of ignorant buffoons have delayed this day from its first opportunity for implementation over four decades ago when the IFR project was killed by John Kerry and President Clinton.
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Re: THE Nuclear Power Thread pt 9 (merged)

Unread postby dissident » Thu 17 Jun 2021, 00:07:21

Tanada wrote:
dissident wrote:A key feature of this reactor is that it is designed to burn actinide waste. Fast neutron breeder reactors did a good job of consuming so-called waste from conventional reactors, but still produced high radiation isotope waste that needed 300 years to fully decay. The BREST-300 will be the first fully integrated reactor and fuel reprocessing plant.


It is a bloody shame the NIMBY crowd of ignorant buffoons have delayed this day from its first opportunity for implementation over four decades ago when the IFR project was killed by John Kerry and President Clinton.


I cannot understand the political insanity in the USA. It looks like "nuclear" is a Pavolvian trigger term for millions of brainwashed lemmings who can't tell the difference between any nuclear technology. France is afflicted by the same sort of lemmings who succeeded in sabotaging the Superphenix program. Let's kill the nuclear tech that cleans up waste can be made not to have hydrogen explosion meltdowns, because we don't like nuclear waste and worry about nuclear meltdowns.

Chernobyl and Fukushima are impossible with lead cooling and have a vanishingly small risk with sodium cooling. But even a meltdown in a sodium cooled plant will not spread radiation since there is no hydrogen explosion. This blew the 2000 ton lid of the RBMK core at Chernobyl and blew out the containment structures at Fukushima. Lemmings think that the China Syndrome is physically plausible. They have no idea, and do not care to inform themselves, that any corium lava will dissolve concrete and soil into itself and naturally lose criticality. But one does not even need concrete and soil to contain the corium. The core catcher at the base of the unpressurized vat in fast neutron reactors is effective in this job since it is composed of boron nitride or similar.

In addition to total lack of awareness about what fast neutron breeder reactors are, we have the fear mongering about terrorists stealing plutonium from such reactors. How, by processing the core? GTFO. Here I have to admit that there is some risk of terrorists intercepting fuel bundles sent for reprocessing. These terrorists would have little chance of stashing them in some van to smuggle out of the country since they would get radiated to death first while trying to handle them. No van or tractor trailer can be easily adapted for such an operation and would have no chance of escaping interception. Any risk would have appropriate security measures in place. Much like all existing reactors have them, since terrorists can break in an cause meltdowns. I have not heard of a single such incident even if only attempted.

Meanwhile there is no hysteria about coal plants which spew mercury, thorium and uranium into the air. Even with the obsolete pressurized water reactor accidents the death toll is vanishingly small compared to the death toll from coal power.
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