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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby dissident » Fri 16 Oct 2020, 15:09:51

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bochen787 wrote:China has now displaced the U.S. to become the largest economy in the world.


Wow. With 4.3x the population of the USA they barely beat the US.
China sucks pretty bad.

How many chinamen does it take to screw in a lightbulp?


Nobody invaded America like America and its Europeon pals invaded China. America got massive GDP boosts from both WWI and WWII. That is why it is always mongering for war since it thinks that it will always benefit from it.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby mousepad » Fri 16 Oct 2020, 15:24:35

dissident wrote:
mousepad wrote:
bochen787 wrote:China has now displaced the U.S. to become the largest economy in the world.


Wow. With 4.3x the population of the USA they barely beat the US.
China sucks pretty bad.

How many chinamen does it take to screw in a lightbulp?


Nobody invaded America like America and its Europeon pals invaded China. America got massive GDP boosts from both WWI and WWII. That is why it is always mongering for war since it thinks that it will always benefit from it.


What a logic ! Was that an ass-pull?
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby dissident » Fri 16 Oct 2020, 16:26:32

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi ... -influence

America's paranoia over Russia is due to its own brazen meddling in Russian politics. The crook always thinks that someone is out to get him.

It is a total joke to think that Russia would be trying to install one of the two parties that run the USA into power. How would that work?
Enabling US elites is undermining them?
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby REAL Green » Fri 16 Oct 2020, 16:58:29

Gawd, the stench is bad!

“The Clocks Struck Thirteen”
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“Was it just me, or did you also notice that NBC’s Savannah Guthrie decided to play Special Prosecutor in Thursday night’s “town hall” gotcha-fest with Mr. Trump, whom they had perched on some Modernista stool-of-punishment? The hectoring interrogation started from the get-go — the “townies” distributed around the set apparently just props — while Ms. Guthrie barked over the President with various renderings of the old shyster’s retort, but do you still beat your wife? Over on ABC, Ol’ White Joe Biden lounged comfortably in low light and cushy seating with his therapist, George Stephanopoulos, free associating on the wonders and marvels he will bring about in the Kingdom Come of his presidency. Strangely, the subject of his family’s lucrative business dealings in Ukraine, China, and Russia a few years back never came up in the confab, a therapeutic omission that seemed to amount to malpractice. I speak of the evidence found on a laptop computer apparently belonging to R. Hunter Biden, Ol’ White Joe’s crackhead son, outlining the many services Biden & Co. rendered to bigwigs in foreign lands for millions of dollars when Pop, “the big guy,” was vice-president. The Democrats’ new Ministry of Truth played a DEFCON-3 defense on these matters when it all broke in The New York Post at midweek. Twitter labeled it “unsafe” and banned all transmission of the news. Facebook’s Communications Director Andy Stone, a former Democratic Party employee (House Majority Political Action Committee Director; Press Secretary to Sen. Barbara Boxer), likewise squashed any links to the story on FB’s social network. The New York Times rolled out the latest Ministry of Truth strategy Friday morning, in a tortured front-page story resorting to the tried-and-true claim that the laptop evidence was “Russian disinformation.” Sh’yeah…. The laptop had languished in the possession of Christopher Wray’s FBI since December 2019. The evidence contained in its some-40,000 emails pertained exactly to the matters at issue in the impeachment of President Trump at that time, i.e. Ukraine favor-seeking. The Delaware repair shop owner who handed over the machine burned a copy of its hard-drive, and when the FBI just sat on all that, he turned the drive over to Rudy Giuliani, one of the President’s attorneys. One would have to suppose a number of things about these explosive revelations: For instance, that the FBI conducted some kind of forensic study of the laptop and its contents, and that it would not be too difficult to ascertain that the email trove was authentically the “work product” of R. Hunter Biden. If so, Mr. Wray has an awful lot to answer for. Likewise, one might suppose that Rudy Giuliani, working on an extremely consequential case for a sitting president, and being a former distinguished federal attorney experienced with, and fastidious about, the handling of evidence, took some pains to ascertain the authenticity of the documents he received. Having done so, one might also suppose that Mr. Giuliani had handed off this material to the Attorney General, Mr. Barr — along with documentation he’s known to have collected about the Biden family’s money-laundering trail through the Baltic states to process additional payments for services rendered above and beyond the millions paid to R. Hunter Biden by Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company whose board of directors he was installed on in 2014. What all that evidence speaks of is a Biden & Co. foreign influence-peddling scheme that amounts to selling out the USA while Ol’ White Joe was vice-president carrying out official tasks in the countries that paid his son enormous sums of money. The evidence clearly contradicts Mr. Biden’s basic claim that he never spoke with his son, Hunter, about his business dealings. The evidence also indicates clearly that Mr. Biden, then vice-president, received a cut of the collected lucre distributed among the family members. In a normal America, these issues would prompt some sort of official inquiry possibly leading to indictments. But these are the most abnormal times, and the final weeks of a vicious national election that is an existential threat to that coterie of Deep State seditionists whose careers, reputations, and livelihoods are at stake in the outcome. So, of course, their Ministry of Truth is pulling out all the stops to squash the story. But their hubris is showing. Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook and Jack Dorsey of Twitter, being mega-billionaires, probably think that they have the resources to hire every attorney in the known universe to guard their empires. One important lesson for the nation might come out of this: that lawyers and lawfare do not amount to a supernatural protection force. The truth has a mighty power of its own and there are moments in history when it manages to overcome organized evil.”
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby bochen787 » Fri 16 Oct 2020, 20:45:06

Losing trade, tech war means end of US imperialism
A pending Chinese ban of exports of strategic materials and technology foreshadows an end to the US-dominated world order


https://asiatimes.com/2020/10/losing-tr ... perialism/

China on Tuesday announced intent to move forward on a legislative initiative to ban the export of strategic substances and technology to foreign companies that could pose a “national security threat.”

The legislation is expected to be ratified early next year after China’s law-making body, the National People’s Congress, green-lights it.

This legislation may be the first of its kind in China’s commercial history.

The law could ban the export of strategically essential supplies such as rare-earth materials and technology to US companies and their foreign subsidiary entities.

Earlier, in late August, China’s ministries of Commerce and of Science and Technology jointly announced an update on the catalog of “technologies prohibited or restricted from export.” It was the catalog’s first update since 2008.

These decisions look like tit-for-tat to the “Entity List” issued by the US targeting Chinese tech giant Huawei and the Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation (SMIC).

Beijing also adopted the “dual circulation” policy in late June. This is aimed at preparing the economy for self-sufficiency if the US decouples economically from China completely.

Similarly, at the 75th United Nations General Assembly in September, Chinese President Xi Jinping surprised observers by pledging that his country’s economy would be made carbon-neutral by 2060 or earlier.

At first glance, it seems that Beijing has retaliated against the US tariffs on Chinese exports and sanctions against its tech companies. However, its latest legal initiative, if it comes into force, will profoundly affect global geopolitics and geo-economics in the future.

History tells that the world order changes at a time of crisis. The World War II crisis brought a wave of de-colonialism in the world. National liberation movements against European colonialism swept across many Asian, African and Latin American countries.

Similarly, the ongoing Covid-19 crisis has set the stage for a new China-influenced world order. China will play a crucial role as a starting point for the end of another phenomenon, imperialism, something the US has been practicing as part of the post-World War II world order.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US believed it enjoyed unchallenged global supremacy. But in the post-pandemic world, the geopolitical map will change drastically. And China will be central to that change.

China wants to send a message to the US that it cannot set international trade rules unilaterally on the strength of its military capability and strategic and military alliances.

It is difficult to predict the exact date of the complete culmination of US imperialism’s decay. Still, that process has now begun. It is similar to the wane of British colonial dominance after World War II. It is widely believed that the complete end of British dominance coincided with the 1956 Suez crisis.

Although imperialism is an old concept in social science, the British political economist A J Hobson systematically discussed it in 1902 for the first time. Later on, in 1916, Russian revolutionary leader Vladimir Lenin wrote a book titled Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism.

Lenin successfully applied Hobson’s notion to Marxian analysis in Europe’s emerging geopolitical circumstances that led to World War I. Fierce competition among the European capitalist states had provoked a world-scale war over the control of resources and trade.

The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy recognizes the contribution made by Lenin on imperialism. It says, “The lasting impact of the Marxist approach is apparent in contemporary debates about American imperialism, a term which usually means American economic hegemony, regardless of whether such power is exercised directly or indirectly.”

In his US presidential inaugural address on January 20, 1949, Harry S Truman declared, “The old imperialism – exploitation for foreign profit – has no place in our plans. What we envisage is a program of development based on the concepts of democratic fair-dealing.”

But despite Truman’s vow, the US has continuously practiced imperialism all over the postwar world.

In contrast to colonialism, the direct rule and economic exploitation of colonies by great powers, imperialism directly or indirectly imposes international trade rules by way of military power and strategic arms. These rules then ensure that the economic surplus flows toward the imperialist power. The US has maintained its economic and political domination in the world by adopting imperialism.

For example, the Plaza Accord destroyed the Japanese economy in the 1990s. The rate of expansion of the Japanese economy had been much higher than that of the US. Japan’s manufacturing was leading exports internationally, and the country was now the second-largest economy.

To remain an uncontested superpower, the US needed to halt Japan’s economic growth. Washington initiated the Plaza Accord negotiations, and the US, Germany, France, the UK, and Japan signed the accord. Tokyo was cowed into compliance by the US military presence in Japan.

The Plaza Accord was highly influential in the Japanese economy. It led to the Japanese asset price bubble of the late 1980s and ultimately to the lost decade starting from the early 1990s. Many Japanese feel that they have still not recovered from that effect fully.

China has reaped unprecedented benefits from globalization over the past 40 years. Its advancements in manufacturing and technological development are similar to Japan’s in the 1980s. The US now sees itself as the loser from economic globalization. Should the US fail to achieve something like the Plaza Accord in the case of China, it will lose its superpower crown.

That’s why the US has been waging a trade and tech war against China since March 2018.

The US believes it can cow China into accepting its trade conditions with its military forces and strategic alliances. It also believes it can impede China’s economic and technological advancement as it did in Japan’s case by resetting trade rules and banning Chinese tech companies.

By announcing the new legislation to enforce export bans, China wants to send a clear message that the US cannot set international trade rules unilaterally through military power and military and strategic alliances. China will not be intimidated by any such threats, and it will not repeat the mistake Japan committed.

The US has intensified widespread pressure on China during the Covid-19 pandemic. It has also tried to use its allies to mount pressure on China to reset its trade relations.

US strategists reckoned that China would collapse economically because of the pandemic crisis. However, the reality was the reverse. China has successfully contained the coronavirus since the first quarter of 2020, while the US has been badly hit economically and in terms of fatalities from the disease.

China now has started retaliating against US adventurism. Thus the new Chinese export legislation will kick-start the termination of US imperialism.

Social scientists and historians will find the Covid-19 crisis played a crucial role in ending US imperialism, and that the turning point was China’s ban on the export of strategic material and technology to foreign companies that could pose a threat to its “national security.”
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby bochen787 » Sat 17 Oct 2020, 18:30:33

Biden’s plan to handle China

BALDING, THE FULBRIGHT PROFESSOR, pointed to several problems with Biden’s plan to rely on allies to pressure China.

For one thing, there are no allies waiting for the United States to reach out to them. “Many countries have interests that cause them not to directly confront China,” he said. Some would avoid publicly admitting to being part of a U.S. alliance in order not to upset China, but would quietly shift their policy to align with the United States. For instance, countries like France or Romania do not have a formal ban on Huawei, but their telecommunication regulations effectively block the company.

Another concern is that even if Biden were able to gather allies, it is uncertain what new, tangible policies these countries could implement against China. Each country faces its own domestic issues and has its own foreign relations ideology, Balding noted. Germany, for example, the largest economy in Europe, has avoided criticizing China: Its leaders say it is not their place to lecture other countries on how to act. Rather German Chancellor Angela Merkel believes closer trade ties with China would push the Communist country toward a freer political system.

German companies have large investments in China: Volkswagen invested $2.4 billion in two Chinese electric vehicle companies. The carmaker also opened a factory in Xinjiang, the area of the Uighur reeducation camps. When asked, Volkswagen CEO Herbert Diess claimed he was unaware of repression in the region. German manufacturing company Siemens and chemical producer BASF also have factories in Xinjiang.

The European Union has done little more than publish strongly worded statements against China’s human rights abuses. With China as its second-largest trading partner, the EU has not enacted sanctions against the country. In a March 2019 EU Commission document, it called China both a “cooperation partner” and a “systemic rival promoting alternative models of governance.”

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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby bochen787 » Sat 17 Oct 2020, 18:37:40

Everyone vote for Biden please! He is the lesser of two evils
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sun 18 Oct 2020, 08:01:26

bochen787 wrote:Everyone vote for Biden please! He is the lesser of two evils

Voting for "lesser evil" is just legitimizing obsolete system. Have decided not to do it and facing such choice I would not vote at all.

Personally i see it like this:
If you are American patriot in traditional sense then vote for Trump but if you want crash America and West general by means of spreading perversion, decadence and degeneracy then vote for Biden and his 4 horsewomen.

I am by most standards seen as right wing, yet I want for the system to crash into chaos so I would vote for Biden.
West is no longer reformable and it need to be converted into chaos and its dysfunctional societal fabric destroyed in its entirety.
Biden is the best man for this job so I would vote for him.
Only once there is a total ruin corporations will be terminated, their bosses jailed or summarily executed, debts cancelled and banks dissolved, perversions quashed and patriarchate restored.
So Biden is my man in this contest.
He is my "Demolition Man".
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby JuanP » Sun 18 Oct 2020, 15:44:33

EU, the way I feel now is that it really doesn't matter who the next US President is. The US course is set in stone; inertia and momentum guarantee that things will keep deteriorating in the world in general, and the USA, in particular for the rest of our lives. I am not saying anyone should give up hope, but we should ALL be preparing for the absolute worst, particularly in the USA.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby careinke » Sun 18 Oct 2020, 16:04:47

EnergyUnlimited wrote:
bochen787 wrote:Everyone vote for Biden please! He is the lesser of two evils

Voting for "lesser evil" is just legitimizing obsolete system. Have decided not to do it and facing such choice I would not vote at all.

Personally i see it like this:
If you are American patriot in traditional sense then vote for Trump but if you want crash America and West general by means of spreading perversion, decadence and degeneracy then vote for Biden and his 4 horsewomen.

I am by most standards seen as right wing, yet I want for the system to crash into chaos so I would vote for Biden.
West is no longer reformable and it need to be converted into chaos and its dysfunctional societal fabric destroyed in its entirety.
Biden is the best man for this job so I would vote for him.
Only once there is a total ruin corporations will be terminated, their bosses jailed or summarily executed, debts cancelled and banks dissolved, perversions quashed and patriarchate restored.
So Biden is my man in this contest.
He is my "Demolition Man".


Interesting point, I can certainly understand your logic. If Biden wins, there will probably be a cleansing of most of the "Unwoke." But it will be very costly in both blood and treasure. Of course it will be reported by the MSN as a glorious victory over the old white men. Still, it will mark the end of the US as we thought we knew it.

Of course my state will cast all of their electorate votes to Kami...I mean Biden no matter how I vote, and normally I would not choose a president in this particular election. But, IBON said it wasn't fair if I didn't make a Sophie's Choice. So, I chose freedom over the Pedophile senile old man who sells his influence through his crack smoking, also pedophile, stupid loser son.

I wonder how they will suppress Biden's sons emails, videos, pictures and pornography on his hard drives? I wonder how long the FBI and CIA have had them without taking action?
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby REAL Green » Sun 18 Oct 2020, 17:19:00

Sit back and watch the fireworks:

“Steve Bannon Behind 'Roll-Out Plan' For Hunter Biden Emails, Says 'Multiple Stories From Multiple Media Sources' About To Hit”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ste ... s-multiple

“In a recent interview with Revolver, former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon admitted that he's the architect of a coordinated roll-out of the Hunter Biden laptop contents, and that there's much, much more to come. To review, last month the New York Post set off a nuclear bomb when they released evidence from the younger Biden's hard drive obtained by Rudy Giuliani, after a computer repair shop owner initially approached the FBI, which appears to have concealed evidence of Biden family corruption in Ukraine and elsewhere while President Trump was being impeached for asking Ukraine to investigate exactly that. And Steve Bannon is master of ceremonies for this October surprise. As former Breitbart journalist Lee Stranahan - who's not exactly Bannon's biggest fan - puts it, "I can't think of a single example of him saying he had the goods on the story that didn't pan out," adding "If he says a lot more is coming he's not shooting blanks." I have many criticisms of Bannon, like ignoring my warnings in 2017 the Ukraine story was going to be a big deal. but… I can't think of a single example of him saying he had the goods on the story that didn't pan out. If he says a lot more is coming he's not shooting blanks. Interview with Steve Bannon via Revolver.com (emphasis ours) Last week the NY Post took the political world by storm with its release of shocking material from Hunter Biden’s hard drive indicating corruption, sexual depravity, and more. The Post reported that a lawyer for former NY Mayor Rudy Giuliani obtained the hard drive from a computer repairman and that former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon had alerted the Post to the existence of the hard drive in July. But before turning over the gear, the shop owner says, he made a copy of the hard drive and later gave it to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert Costello. Steve Bannon, former adviser to President Trump, told The Post about the existence of the hard drive in late September and Giuliani provided The Post with a copy of it on Sunday. [NY Post] Steve Bannon has since clarified to Revolver News that he was brought into the project based on familiarity with corruption in corporate America, on Wall Street, and within the Chinese Communist Party and America’s political class. Mr. Bannon revealed that he “worked up and executed the roll out plan” of the information contained in the Hunter hard drives. Given his close knowledge and familiarity with an issue of such explosive importance to the election, Revolver asked Mr. Bannon a few questions pertaining to the contents of Hunter’s hard drive and the political implications of their release. Revolver: What is the most incriminating thing on the hard drive? Rudy has suggested illegal things, and as Revolver reported, the FBI person tasked with the hard drive is associated with the child pornography division. Could you give more insight into how bad it is we’re talking about? Mr. Bannon: Joe Biden is a liar, a fraud, and compromised by Chinese cash. In short, he is a national security crisis. The hard drive combines emails and text messages that show a massive involvement with companies controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. Also, there are 25,000 images that show a drug-addled, depraved lifestyle — one that decent hardworking Americans will not want near the White House. Revolver: The FBI has been holding onto the hard drive for almost a year? Any sense of why? Was there any indication that they were seriously interested in a criminal case, assuming that there is, in fact, illegal material on there? If not, why would the FBI simply hold onto information like that? Mr. Bannon: The President must confront the director of the FBI on why the information housed on this hard drive was not moved on immediately. If the content of the hard drive had been released when received in November 2019, there would have been no impeachment of Trump, and Bernie Sanders would be the Democratic Party nominee. This confrontation should take place this weekend in the Oval Office. If Wray doesn’t have a bulletproof reason he should be fired in the room. Revolver: What are your best estimates on how many foreign entities may have obtained possession of the hard drive? Chinese intel? Mr. Bannon: It’s the actions represented on the hard drive that the American people must understand our enemies know about. The cash and equity given for access to Biden, the favors done for that cash, the drugs, the depravity. The CCP, Russian Intel, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Intel Services — they know the Bidens are for sale. Revolver: Is there any reason to expect that the contents of the hard drive will be revealed before the election? If yes, will people actually care enough for it to substantially affect the outcome? Mr. Bannon: The Bidens are about to be hit with multiple stories from multiple media sources based off evidence beyond the hard drive. Fox and Peter Schweitzer have already started but bigger more mainstream companies are going to weigh in. We already have set in motion the various apparatuses that will release everything. Revolver: What are your thoughts on the efforts to discredit the hard drive as “Russian disinformation?” Is there any evidence this is Russian disinformation at all? At any rate, what matters is not whether Biden-supporting media calls it “disinformation” — what matters is whether it’s true. Has the Biden camp explicitly denied the factual accusations pertaining to the hard drives? Mr. Bannon: Rupert Murdoch’s team at the NY Post is as sophisticated and tough as there is in all media. They had the metadata and they signed off to go forward. The Russia excuse — and it is an excuse — collapsed when Fox verified the information with someone on the email chain. The Biden campaign has yet to say these emails or photos are not real. The reason? Hunter’s lawyer sent emails trying to recover the hard drive. These are real — the Bidens know they are real — and they are going to have to deal with that reality.”
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Mon 19 Oct 2020, 02:48:58

careinke wrote:Interesting point, I can certainly understand your logic. If Biden wins, there will probably be a cleansing of most of the "Unwoke." But it will be very costly in both blood and treasure. Of course it will be reported by the MSN as a glorious victory over the old white men. Still, it will mark the end of the US as we thought we knew it.

Objection is to change attitude of white men to society.
Pushed, mocked and discredited enough they will cease to maintain social fabric and infrastructure and more proactively start working to disassemble it.
Also - they will lose loyalty to the state on many if not all levels.

I see it critical for those in charge of infrastructure to abandon their duties and others to either fail to educate themselves or alternatively leave defunct cultural setup which West have become and work for someone else.
Weaker men may well paint their hair pink, join LGBT and spread further degeneration. Devoid of useful skills (and in all probabilities an offspring) they are irrelevant.
As I have written on one occasion we need to get to a point where civil engineers no longer care about bridges, electricians and plumbers not giving a toss about grid and plumbing infrastructure, IT people sabotaging data transmission and processing system and men in general refusing to report or react to crime of another man against a woman (unless she is someone's loyal wife). This should leave loose women to be a sort of game, free to be abused by whoever please (already Arabs are doing good job in this respect in Europe and few seem to care).
Also we need to push situations where men no longer wish to provide military service and if forced to do so would take a lukewarm approach, surrender at first occasion and release military assets to enemy.
Once there is a large scale change of attitude of men the way I have described decadent West will cease to exist an after due period of chaos will get replaced with something more useful.
At the moment it is culturally dead setup and need disposing off in its entirety.
Biden & co would accelerate sought after trends which I have described and for this very reason he is my favourite candidate for American presidency.

REAL_Green wrote:last month the New York Post set off a nuclear bomb when they released evidence from the younger Biden's hard drive obtained by Rudy Giuliani, after a computer repair shop owner initially approached the FBI, which appears to have concealed evidence of Biden family corruption in Ukraine and elsewhere while President Trump was being impeached for asking Ukraine to investigate exactly that.

Bold italic my.
Low IQ leaders who are billionaires and yet are submitting few bucks worth of computers full of incriminating evidence to public service shop are exactly the people who are going to help to disassemble decadent system.
The worst - the better.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby REAL Green » Mon 19 Oct 2020, 06:39:33

EnergyUnlimited wrote:Objection is to change attitude of white men to society.
Pushed, mocked and discredited enough they will cease to maintain social fabric and infrastructure and more proactively start working to disassemble it. Also - they will lose loyalty to the state on many if not all levels.


I realize here in my Missouri Ozarks there is not a lot of population but I do feel it characterizes much of rural America. White men around here do not take shit. We have been quiet about all this woke nonsense becuase it has been far off in the other American world of big urban. Not much has changed around here over the last several years but it will if the woke movement starts to try to change things at the basic levels of the lives of these people. White men around here are tough. There are pussies like everywhere but for the most part any successful white man has a backbone or he would not be successful. These rural areas are not easy to make it in. There is an undercurrent of white men who are useless and on drugs but not that many. Generally they serve as workers doing the lowest levels of work. As long as they have their drugs and alcohol they are ok with it. They die young but their importance is low. Some are criminals but the worst of these get swept up into the many prisons in America. These woke bastards do not realize what is coming if they awaken these people in anger. So far it has been the pussy coastal intellectuals and their wanna be tough acting antifa f*cks being powerful over weak people. They are in for a rude awakening on how mean these so called deplorables can be. We are not talking white supremist either. There are a few of them but for the most part they are nutter. These are normal people who struggle to make a living in a tough place. Wake these people up at your own risk. Disturb their tough lives with nonsense and get ready for a response.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby mousepad » Mon 19 Oct 2020, 08:36:56

REAL Green wrote:Wake these people up at your own risk. Disturb their tough lives with nonsense and get ready for a response.

I don't think so. They act tough leaned against their F350, beer can in hand. Talking how the liberals will pry their guns from their dead cold hands.
Meanwhile wokeness creeps in, slowly, steadily, subversive. In schools, in institutions, in media, in government. And the tough guys don't even realize what happened. Practically 0 resistance against vilifying Confederate heroes, 0 resistance against removing flags, 0 resistance against changing mississippi state flag. Where are all the tough guys? Where's their pride?
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby Ibon » Mon 19 Oct 2020, 08:48:13

mousepad wrote: Where are all the tough guys? Where's their pride?


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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby REAL Green » Mon 19 Oct 2020, 09:03:48

mousepad wrote:I don't think so. They act tough leaned against their F350, beer can in hand. Talking how the liberals will pry their guns from their dead cold hands.


Typical prejudiced view of the people in rural America. Rich urban liberals squander more resources than a deplorable in general plus they drink more. This is a product of affluence. If you don't have the money you don't have the luxuries. The above is typical gun nonsense too. A few are gun fanatics but most are not. That does not mean we don't have guns. Guns are part of the culture of security and hunting around here.

mousepad wrote:Meanwhile wokeness creeps in, slowly, steadily, subversive. In schools, in institutions, in media, in government. And the tough guys don't even realize what happened. Practically 0 resistance against vilifying Confederate heroes, 0 resistance against removing flags, 0 resistance against changing mississippi state flag. Where are all the tough guys? Where's their pride?


The wokeness is taking over the educated liberal class and the brainwashed young urbanite not the so called deplorables. We reject it outright as stupidity. Plus, the deplorables have their own stupidities to deal with. Using the confederate heroes status as an example is lame. How important are statues to the real of life? These fanatics that tear them down have little else to do and in many cases are supported and enabled by the radical woke politicians. They are brainwashed snowflakes and anarchist who love destruction. The tough and the pride will come out when these woke F*cks start trampling those things which really matter. I might add we are already seeing the deplorable reject the celebs in sports who want to shove their shit down our throat. Ratings are the lowest in history.

I am an old fashion liberal that has been alienated by woke and SJW. I now consider myself an anti-woke. If I side with the deplorables it is because it is time to make a stand. I will support my people who live around me. I have lived many different lives and would say that in my early years I was ahead of the trend on many of the issues that are being discussed these days among liberals. I am an egalitarian and an environmentalist but realistic. If the wokesters want to come and screw with me do it at your own risk. I am not afraid of them at all.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby mousepad » Mon 19 Oct 2020, 09:21:34

REAL Green wrote:
mousepad wrote:I don't think so. They act tough leaned against their F350, beer can in hand. Talking how the liberals will pry their guns from their dead cold hands.


Typical prejudiced view of the people in rural America.

I don't think so.
I live in rural America. I'm a deplorable. I have many deplorable friends. Most are law-abiding citizens. They abide by the law made by lefty city slicks. They might grumble a bit, but then they do nothing but suck it up. Dreaming that when the red line is crossed, they will pull out their guns and show them fucking liberals. But when the red line is crossed, they don't do nothing. They simply set a new red line.

The wokeness is taking over the educated liberal class and the brainwashed young urbanite not the so called deplorables. We reject it outright as stupidity.

Give it some time, and it will become the new normal.

The tough and the pride will come out when these woke F*cks start trampling those things which really matter.

Like what? They trample over their history, their ancestry, their values, their identity, their religion. Yet they suck it all up.


If the wokesters want to come and screw with me do it at your own risk. I am not afraid of them at all.

They are already there, screwing with you.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby REAL Green » Mon 19 Oct 2020, 10:08:52

don't think so. I live in rural America. I'm a deplorable. I have many deplorable friends. Most are law-abiding citizens. They abide by the law made by lefty city slicks. They might grumble a bit, but then they do nothing but suck it up. Dreaming that when the red line is crossed, they will pull out their guns and show them fucking liberals. But when the red line is crossed, they don't do nothing. They simply set a new red line.


The above is not true around here so where do you live and what is your age? Maybe that will shed light on our discussion

Give it some time, and it will become the new normal.


I disagree, woke is being rejected now that the woksters are screaming it with madness in their eyes. In fact, blacks and Hispanics are starting to reject this nonsense that basically is a narrow elite liberal disguised class war. Normal people are now seeing some of the truth behind it and rejecting it. It may be too late for the election but over time this nonsense will smother itself because it is nonsense and has little relevance to life getting much tougher. Woke is for pussies and pussies will fail. When the going gets tough these woksters retreat to safetyism and cancel as their remedy. That explains woke in a nutshell it is a movement of cowards.

Like what? They trample over their history, their ancestry, their values, their identity, their religion. Yet they suck it all up.


They have trampled that in a very short time and it is only statues for the most part. History, ancestry, values, and religion has not been attacked head on. That will take many months and I guarantee it will get nowhere. Sure, in the liberal woke enclaves of blue where the SJW own the turf it will stick but all that is doing is causing a migration. So, in effect these SJW woksters are causing segregation under the banner of fighting racism. There is no substance to their doctrine. It is nebulous. The fascist liberal Dems, MSM, Big Tech, Hollywood F*cks, university vested do nothing professors and spoiled sports millionaires are just using the movement to gain power. Power is everything to a maxist/fascist and that is what the modern SJW woke Liberal has become. This is a class war for power in a time of decline.

They are already there, screwing with you.


Not yet but I am gearing up. REAL Green is a local based lifestyle of mine. The woke are starting to impact the edges of my life and I am smart enough to sound the alarm. Keep in mind Trump nor Biden are going to save this country. It is going down in decline like the rest of the world, China included. Yet, we are talking about the social narrative and who gets the lifeboats on the sinking ship. Woke is not going to come into my local and take ours without a fight.
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby REAL Green » Mon 19 Oct 2020, 10:51:30

I think they are saving the worst for last knowing the shock of what remains is so damning!

“Hold on to your hat: Hunter’s hard drive rollout this week is going to unleash a whirlwind”
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... z6bKQVYP1B

“As for the “drug-addled, depraved lifestyle” that Bannon mentions, perhaps the most explosive element of the entire hard drive databank will be what is claimed to be pictures of Hunter engaging in sex with underage minors, taken during a visit to China, and providing the Chinese Communist Party the ability to blackmail and control the Biden family with the specter of long prison terms for Hunter. Wayne Allen Root is tweeting on it, claiming he has a highest level source…To be sure, this is still not confirmed to be true. But it does appear that the FBI first turned to hard drive over to Joshua Wilson, a specialist in child pornography, whose signature on the subpoena to the repair store owner is faintly visible. And then, the hard drive disappeared into the bowels of the FBI. If the social media and MSM grandees think they can keep this bottled up, they are mistaken. “
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Re: Pat Buchanan: America in worst decline since Soviet Unio

Unread postby noobtube » Mon 19 Oct 2020, 21:58:34

careinke wrote:Interesting point, I can certainly understand your logic. If Biden wins, there will probably be a cleansing of most of the "Unwoke." But it will be very costly in both blood and treasure. Of course it will be reported by the MSN as a glorious victory over the old white men. Still, it will mark the end of the US as we thought we knew it.


From my standpoint, Biden vs. Trump is a win-win, if you despise the America they represent.

Either choice leads to complete disaster for the status quo. But, really, America died in March, 2020.

The terms are being negotiated for a new America, as I type this.

mousepad wrote:Practically 0 resistance against vilifying Confederate heroes, 0 resistance against removing flags, 0 resistance against changing mississippi state flag. Where are all the tough guys? Where's their pride?


The Confederacy was a failure the moment it was created. It never existed in peace. It was violent and hostile, unstable, and primitive. Its participants were traitors, selfish, and brutal. After the war, the leaders should have been executed and the soldiers imprisoned, indebted, and scandalized.

Because the United States failed to do this, the Confederate stain has sabotaged the country for more than 150 years. Finally, this Confederate garbage can be cleansed from the land so an America with a future has a chance to be born.

America actually has monuments to human traffickers, slave traders, and flesh peddlers, with these Confederate monuments. That is insane! But, America is full of lunatics and why it was doomed in the end.
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