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Deluge Thread 2020

Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby EdwinSm » Thu 02 Jan 2020, 02:01:30

Jakarta, Indonesia

At least 16 people have died in flooding in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, after the city had its most intense rainfall for at least 24 years.

The Meteorology, Climatology and Geophysics Agency (BMKG) measured 377 millimetres of rainfall in a day at an airport in East Jakarta.

That's the most most rain in a single day since at least 1996, when records supplied by the agency began.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50969418

Record amount of rain, but also made much worse by subsidence due to too high a rate of ground water extraction.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 02 Jan 2020, 11:17:01

Thanks for starting the new thread, Ed.

I heard this report on the radio. Pretty much the definition of insanity.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby EdwinSm » Fri 03 Jan 2020, 07:19:31

Now major (panic???) attempts to divert the rain from Jakarta by cloud seeding. The death toll has risen since the last report to 43.

Indonesian authorities are turning to the technique of cloud seeding to try to stop more rain falling in the flood-hit capital Jakarta.

Planes have been sent to inject chemicals into clouds in an effort to alter precipitation.

Jakarta and surrounding districts have struggled to cope since a storm on New Year's Eve left large areas underwater.

At least 43 people are known to have died, with some 192,000 evacuated, and more rain is expected.

According to Reuters news agency, two planes have been sent up to shoot salt flares into the clouds, which will hopefully make them break before they reach the Jakarta region.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50981453
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby crunchlive990 » Sat 13 Jun 2020, 08:19:12

EdwinSm wrote:Jakarta, Indonesia

At least 16 people have died in flooding in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta, after the city had its most intense rainfall for at least 24 years.

The Meteorology, Climatology and Geophysics Agency (BMKG) measured 377 millimetres of rainfall in a day at an airport in East Jakarta.

That's the most most rain in a single day since at least 1996, when records supplied by the agency began. I'll manage to make really wow essay about it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50969418

Record amount of rain, but also made much worse by subsidence due to too high a rate of ground water extraction.


Want to see this rain in reality! Feel it! Sounds really interesting!
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby Tuike » Sat 04 Jul 2020, 09:51:13

IN PHOTOS: Torrential rain floods southwestern Japan -kyodonews
Torrential rain in the southwestern Japan prefecture of Kumamoto triggered massive flooding Saturday, leaving 15 people feared dead and nine others missing, the prefectural government said, as the weather agency warned of downpours to continue.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby dohboi » Fri 31 Jul 2020, 05:23:32

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/clim ... loods.html

A Quarter of Bangladesh Is Flooded. Millions Have Lost Everything.


The country’s latest calamity illustrates a striking inequity of our time: The people least responsible for climate change are among those most hurt by its consequences.

Torrential rains have submerged at least a quarter of Bangladesh, washing away the few things that count as assets for some of the world’s poorest people — their goats and chickens, houses of mud and tin, sacks of rice stored for the lean season.

It is the latest calamity to strike the delta nation of 165 million people. Only two months ago, a cyclone pummeled the country’s southwest. Along the coast, a rising sea has swallowed entire villages. And while it’s too soon to ascertain what role climate change has played in these latest floods, Bangladesh is already witnessing a pattern of more severe and more frequent river flooding than in the past along the mighty Brahmaputra River, scientists say, and that is projected to worsen in the years ahead as climate change intensifies the rains...
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby dohboi » Sun 09 Aug 2020, 13:35:52

Flooding wiping out lots of the rice harvest in China

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/08/economy/ ... index.html
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby jedrider » Wed 26 Aug 2020, 20:43:57

The Biblical Flood That Will Drown California
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2020/08/california-flood-arkstorm-farmland-climate-change/

I didn't know that this was also something to worry about, basically, too much rainfall in too short a time span. It has happened before.

I'm thinking that we have been getting less rainfall rather than too much, so I don't know what to make of this. I don't live in a flood zone,

but this could also be problematic for living on hillsides that give in after the rain saturates the hillside. Rain plus earthquake, now that would be devastating.

So much fun stuff to worry about, maybe, too much. We're all here by chance anyway and we can go anytime by chance, too.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 26 Aug 2020, 21:30:30

jedrider wrote:The Biblical Flood That Will Drown California
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2020/08/california-flood-arkstorm-farmland-climate-change/

I didn't know that this was also something to worry about, basically, too much rainfall in too short a time span. It has happened before.

I'm thinking that we have been getting less rainfall rather than too much, so I don't know what to make of this. I don't live in a flood zone,

but this could also be problematic for living on hillsides that give in after the rain saturates the hillside. Rain plus earthquake, now that would be devastating.

So much fun stuff to worry about, maybe, too much. We're all here by chance anyway and we can go anytime by chance, too.


The thing about an "arkstorm" in a place like California so many folks forget is the massive weight it loads on all the tectonic slip zones state wide. A lot of these zones are already primed for small quakes that relieve stress gradually and in a relatively un-damaging manner, but such a sudden shift in mass loading can tip off a much bigger event like the 1989 Oakland quake or the 1906 San Fransisco quake. Note I am not saying those two events were caused by an arkstorm, just that in the event of an arkstorm the consequences could include a major series of large energy earthquakes going off in a relatively short period of time.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby dohboi » Thu 01 Oct 2020, 17:58:21

Two million tons of rice gone, in Nigeria. That's like 10 kilos of rice for every person in Nigeria.

https://watchers.news/2020/10/01/jigawa ... loss-2020/
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 03 Oct 2020, 22:58:09

Two Dead and 24 Missing After Floods in France and Italy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ecord-rain

Record rain in mountainous region destroys bridges, blocks roads and cuts off communities

... In northern Italy’s Piedmont region, overnight rainfall reached levels not recorded since 1958. As much as 630mm (24.8in) of rain fell in a 24-hour period, according to the Italian civil protection agency.

In south-east France, almost a year’s average rainfall fell in less than 12 hours in the mountainous area surrounding the city of Nice.
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Re: Deluge Thread 2020

Unread postby REAL Green » Sun 04 Oct 2020, 05:38:56

dohboi wrote:Two Dead and 24 Missing After Floods in France and Italy

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ecord-rain

Record rain in mountainous region destroys bridges, blocks roads and cuts off communities

... In northern Italy’s Piedmont region, overnight rainfall reached levels not recorded since 1958. As much as 630mm (24.8in) of rain fell in a 24-hour period, according to the Italian civil protection agency.

In south-east France, almost a year’s average rainfall fell in less than 12 hours in the mountainous area surrounding the city of Nice.


My wife spoke to her mom yesterday. It is bad in their Alpine village. Two years ago they had a bad wind storm that downed trees through a large swath of the mountains. It seems extremes are the new norm in the Alps.
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