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Unread postby dohboi » Sat 12 Sep 2020, 17:07:23

Oregon sheriff’s deputy placed on leave for falsely blaming Antifa for starting forest fires


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/oregon ... est-fires/

I don't suppose there is any possibility of putting any posters 'on leave' for propogating similar dangerous lies??? :roll:
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Re: Wildfires 2020 Thread

Unread postby dohboi » Sat 12 Sep 2020, 17:11:21

It's important, of course, to note that Global Warming is the real cause of these fires.

And it's not just California burning.

Even more important to the global system are the fires raging in the Amazon, on its way to being lost to us forever, and the Arctic (same):

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/10/americas ... index.html

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02568-y
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 12 Sep 2020, 17:26:12

Suspect arrested for arson in southern Oregon. At the time he was arrested he had drugs in his possession.

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This loon was seen setting a fire near the road and then apprehended and arrested before that fire could burn into some nearby houses. At the time he was caught committing arson the Alameda fire was already burning through nearby Ashland/Talent/Medford, where many people are still missing and where an arson investigation is currently underway to determine the cause of the deadly Alameda fire.

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Unread postby jedrider » Sat 12 Sep 2020, 17:41:03

The Anthropocene seemed to have been very short lived as now we are already in the Pyrocene climatic era.

Becoming Arizona: How climate change is transforming California thru fire
https://thecottonwoodpost.net/2020/09/12/becoming-arizona-how-climate-change-is-transforming-california-thru-fire/
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 12 Sep 2020, 17:53:36

jedrider wrote:The Anthropocene seemed to have been very short lived as now we are already in the Pyrocene climatic era.

Becoming Arizona: How climate change is transforming California thru fire
https://thecottonwoodpost.net/2020/09/12/becoming-arizona-how-climate-change-is-transforming-california-thru-fire/


California isn't becoming Arizona.....there are no oceans in Arizona.

Whats happening in California is that its becoming Baja.

Global warming doesn't make California more continental like Arizona....what global warming does in many places is effectively to shift climate zones and ecotones hundred of miles northward.

Thats one reason I went to Baja last February.....right before the China virus hit.

I wanted to see what California would look like in the future as the climate warmed.

Baja is spectacular....the deserts go right down to the ocean edge.

The mountains in baja are rocky and bare, with few or no trees.

Its hyper arid and hot.

There aren't many people because there isn't much water available.

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This is the future of California ---- its going to look like Baja looks today.

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Unread postby jedrider » Sat 12 Sep 2020, 19:13:12

The cactus looks the same to me, whether in Baja or Arizona.
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 12 Sep 2020, 20:35:56

Yes the cactus looks the same, but the geographic and climatic setting of the desert in Arizona and the desert in Baja is totally different.

Desert conditions in Arizona are caused by the fact that it is in the interior of the continent, cut off from the ocean by the Sierra Nevada and other mountains, and the mountains block most rainstorms so that rainfall mostly only penetrates into Arizona during certain times of the year when storms come up from the Gulf of California.

The desert in Baja is right next to the ocean. There are no mountains between Baja and the ocean to stop precipitation..... The desert conditions in Baja are caused by perennial high pressure associated with global scale Hadley cell circulation in the atmosphere.

As the equatorial Hadley cell expands and strengthens in response to global warming, it is tending to cause more aridity and the deserts in a broad band around the planet and low latitude deserts are expanding. This process is known as desertification, and in California it is causing the climate in the state of California to transmogrify into a very hot and arid climate more like that seen across northern Mexico and Baja today.

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Hadley cells are expanding around the globe in response to global warming....this is causing more aridity and the expansion of low latitude deserts around the planet, including the increase in aridity in California.

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