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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 13:19:31

asg70 wrote:
JuanP wrote:Another day has passed and nothing has changed; same as it ever was. I will make a prediction. Tomorrow both China and the USA will still be around, as will President Xi and President Trump.
Trump 2020! Trump Jr. 2024! Trump Jr. 2028!


And Armageddon will still be spamming this board.




And you’ll pretend the economy is booming
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby shortonoil » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 13:23:21

And Armageddon will still be spamming this board.


Still trying to climb out from under your rock? Just slither out like you usually do.

Another day has passed and nothing has changed; same as it ever was.


Was your bain damage the result of a Boeing 737 MAX plane crash? There is a good class action suit going on for that.

By our numbers 670,000 have been exposed to the virus, and 14,000 have died today. Same as ever; at least for the last week.

WHO Turns On China, Demands To Know How Nearly 2,000 Doctors Were Infected With COVID-19
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... es-persist

The WHO has just wrapped up its now-daily presser for Friday, and it appeared to focus on imminent plans to send a group of a dozen scientists and researchers to Beijing to figure out exactly what the hell is going on.


China has finally relented, and they are going to allow the WHO to send 12 viral experts to China; but absolutely no Americans; even though they have the best specialists in this field in the world. No doubt about it, something is very sick in China. The CCP needs a few more pills. It is nothing that a long length of piano wire, and a few telephone poles can't cure.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Sys1 » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 14:01:48

Something interesting both far and closely related to the virus.
I've read on this thread or another article on peak oil or zerohedge, I don't remember, that China's economy collapsed something between 20% and 50% of its normal production since the beginning of the sanitary crisis.
Since China is the biggest CO2 producer, all of it mainly coming from coal, I remember about Guy McPherson arguing that in case of global economic collapse, it would trigger a massive increase of world temperature in the matter of weeks/months because the lack of particles sent in the atmosphere by industry. Another way to say global dimming would cease...
Did we notice yet something regarding climate around China beside the "normal" rate of global warming?
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby shortonoil » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 14:21:59

PS:
The Americans have the best bio-warfare specialists in the world because the Pentagon spends a $100 billion a year on it. The US sure got its money's worth?

Anyone, can wipe out the human race for a mere (and growing ever worthless) $100 billion a year. Thanks to technology crazy is getting cheaper every year. There may be a flaw in the underlying design? China's contagion rate is over 4,000 times faster than it is in the US. Until that changes it missed the US. In the last 19 days, US confirmed cases have increased by 4. That could be handled by 2 hospitals with the CDC there to hold their hands. (until the doctors kick them out). The US has more than adequate medical facilities to handle this epidemic, unless it produces a silent super spreader who could run around for years. If that happens the US will be in lockdown like most of Asia.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 15:35:48

shortonoil wrote:PS:
The Americans have the best bio-warfare specialists in the world because the Pentagon spends a $100 billion a year on it. The US sure got its money's worth?

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BS!
as usual from shorty.
Actual spending on Bio warfare and defense from it is through the Department of Homeland security and the CDC with an annual budget of around eight billion dollars.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby shortonoil » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 16:48:00

China Is Disintegrating: Steel Demand, Property Sales, Traffic All Approaching Zero
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/chi ... ching-zero
there is no economic activity taking place whatsoever.


What we once knew of as China is gone. Famine will finish off what remains. Massive supply shortages will appear in the US during the next few days. Pharmaceuticals will be the most apparent. China supplied 80% of US stock components to produce drugs.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 17:21:08

shortonoil wrote:The US has more than adequate medical facilities to handle this epidemic, unless it produces a silent super spreader who could run around for years. If that happens the US will be in lockdown like most of Asia.

This remains to be seen but I am sceptical about it.
This disease gives rather large proportion of mild and asymptomatic infections.
Such people will easily spread disease further.
There are plenty of unknowing spreaders, some of them getting sick later and other do not.
There is no medical service on the world (and American one even if most expensive is rather not the best) which can handle thousands and then hundreds of thousands of highly contagious cases.
And if quarantines and Chinese styled persecution of those infected will begin then substantial proportion of sick people will avoid doctors at any cost... and spread disease by the same.
So you better hope that your president is right and virus will go once weather got warmer and that on autumn vaccine is ready (possible but not very likely).
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 17:26:35

Sys1 wrote:Something interesting both far and closely related to the virus.
I've read on this thread or another article on peak oil or zerohedge, I don't remember, that China's economy collapsed something between 20% and 50% of its normal production since the beginning of the sanitary crisis.
Since China is the biggest CO2 producer, all of it mainly coming from coal, I remember about Guy McPherson arguing that in case of global economic collapse, it would trigger a massive increase of world temperature in the matter of weeks/months because the lack of particles sent in the atmosphere by industry. Another way to say global dimming would cease...
Did we notice yet something regarding climate around China beside the "normal" rate of global warming?

You may be onto something.
I was also thinking along these lines.
Shut down of most of air travel would make a trick.
Then we will get an experimental evidence to find out how powerful global dimming in reality is.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby wildbourgman » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 17:39:20

I'm not sure this has been alluded to earlier. I think that China is getting ready to blame the Wuhan Lab and its employees near the Wet market for the virus escaping into the public.

This probably coincides with now allowing the WHO into the country and with the updated virus numbers that they will release. That data set will reflect something that explains their strong quarantine actions. It will be much bigger. See there will no longer be a necessity to try to hide what can't be hidden.

I think they have hit the wall, the charade is up and they know it. They also must have recognized growing distrust and even rage of the populace against the communist leadership. So by coming clean about the "incompetent" lab employees the people can refocus their rage in another direction and the leadership can give the people the pound of flesh they desire. They will also be able to reclaim that the government is competent and that they were all hit by something unnatural and no one could have handled a lab born mutant virus release. Heck they might even blame it on some form of terrorism if need be.

That's my prediction. Oh and I also thinks this should put the world on notice of what's coming.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 17:48:47

wildbourgman wrote:I'm not sure this has been alluded to earlier. I think that China is getting ready to blame the Wuhan Lab and its employees near the Wet market for the virus escaping into the public.

This probably coincides with now allowing the WHO into the country and with the updated virus numbers that they will release. That data set will reflect something that explains their strong quarantine actions. It will be much bigger. See there will no longer be a necessity to try to hide what can't be hidden.

I think they have hit the wall, the charade is up and they know it. They also must have recognized growing distrust and even rage of the populace against the communist leadership. So by coming clean about the "incompetent" lab employees the people can refocus their rage in another direction and the leadership can give the people the pound of flesh they desire. They will also be able to reclaim that the government is competent and that they were all hit by something unnatural and no one could have handled a lab born mutant virus release. Heck they might even blame it on some form of terrorism if need be.

That's my prediction. Oh and I also thinks this should put the world on notice of what's coming.

You are wrong.
Even if it was the case (which I think is unlikely), they will *never ever* admit it.
That would leave them with arbitrary large liabilities once global pandemic is established.
It could easily bankrupt China as a country so they will never admit it, even if true.

Charade is over for other reason.
Numbers of sick and dead people are so large that lies are self evident, even for a moron there.
Communist party is concerned about continuation of *heavenly mandate to govern*, which is an important concept in Chinese society.
Once mob at large have concluded that it is no longer there, whoever rules is overthrown, often in a sequence of very bloody rebellions, mutinies in army etc.
Such disasters are happening in China statistically once per ~250 years.
Commies are most concerned about such turn of events so they are perhaps winding down charades of lies in hope to retain critical support.
They are getting genuinely worried about their asses.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby wildbourgman » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 18:00:36

EnergyUnlimited wrote:You are wrong.
Even if it was the case (which I think is unlikely), they will *never ever* admit it.
That would leave them with arbitrary large liabilities once global pandemic is established.
It could easily bankrupt China as a country so they will never admit it, even if true.



I think they see the entire party or at least the current leadership on the line. Things like this turn into well lubricated guillotines. Also do you really think they would pay a lawsuit? Seriously? They would not be admitting anything, they would be the ones that did the heroic detective work and found the culprit. That would enhance the claim of the parties "*heavenly mandate to govern*".

But any possible legal issues would be a good reason to blame terrorism. Maybe the lab worker was a Uyghur ? Although they would never really be concerned about a lawsuit. Who would try to make them pay?
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 21:40:21

CDC is stating 42 states with cases under investigation now.


I have a friend who went to the super Bowl in Miami and now he’s sick as hell. Could it be?
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby JuanP » Fri 14 Feb 2020, 22:46:00

China continues benefitting from the epidemic in unforeseen ways.
https://www.globaltimes.cn//content/1177737.shtml
I am concerned that this may lead to a natality spike, though, from all the people having more sex than usual. The extra sex is a benefit, but the extra babies are not!
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 03:00:15

wildbourgman wrote:I think they see the entire party or at least the current leadership on the line. Things like this turn into well lubricated guillotines. Also do you really think they would pay a lawsuit? Seriously? They would not be admitting anything, they would be the ones that did the heroic detective work and found the culprit. That would enhance the claim of the parties "*heavenly mandate to govern*".

But any possible legal issues would be a good reason to blame terrorism. Maybe the lab worker was a Uyghur ? Although they would never really be concerned about a lawsuit. Who would try to make them pay?

Finding a culprit would still leave them opened to blames for inadequate security procedures etc.
These are serious matters.
They could refuse to pay but it would legitimize any American and not American sanctions, trade restrictions, foreign asset forfeiture etc. Could be devastating, particularly for country like China which is still relying on mercantilist policies to a large degree.
I am not sure that blaming terrorism would be an out prison card either.
So no, they will never ever admit it if true.
These are not the type of things you are admitting.

It is far more likely that many top heads in CCP will roll.
Job of President Xi Jinping and top echelons is now not secure at all.

There is one tacit hint that Chinese government is in trouble.
PLA is not keen at all to assist with clearing this mess. Top brass have even indicated that they are not responsible for unfolding events and they are distancing themselves from problems on the ground.
These are really bad news for governments, provincial and central.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby Yoshua » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 09:16:30

"I talked to Clemens Wendtner, who has been treating some of the German patients. He told me Monday evening that of four #COVID19 patients he had been treating for two weeks, three were still PCR-positive even though based on symptoms they would have been sent home by now."
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby shortonoil » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 10:12:55

BS!
as usual from shorty.
Actual spending on Bio warfare and defense from it is through the Department of Homeland security and the CDC with an annual budget of around eight billion dollars.


Another attempted snow job from the orcs at PO News. You forgot the Pentagon's expenditures that don't come under DHLS, or the CDC. The US military has been very active in bio-warfare since the end of WWII The Pentagon also lost $6.3 trillion; they didn't spend it on toilet seats! Your usual attempted subterfuge during a world wide pandemic could get people killed.

It is far more likely that many top heads in CCP will roll.
Job of President Xi Jinping and top echelons is now not secure at all.


When the Chinese Military realizes that the incessant bungling of the CCP is threatening their own existence, the CCP will go. To appease what remains of China, after this creature disembarks, Xi's fate will most likely be met in front of a firing squad.

China's infection rate is still over 4,000 times as fast in China as it is in the US. Unless that changes China will see a plague of biblical proportions, and the US will see the last great Mother of all Depressions. The end of the oil age is being marked by a string of luck so bad that if it weren't bad luck there won't be any luck at all.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby JuanP » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 10:36:40

President Xi is the second most popular politician on the planet, behind President Putin. People who think his government is in danger don't have a clue about what is going on in China. The Chinese government is the most efficient and effective in the world. The Chinese government has done more to improve the lives of the Chinese than any other government has done for its people, particularly in the West where governments have been screwing the people since before I WAS BORN! Do you think the Chinese are so stupid and brainwashed that they don't know this? They are Chinese, NOT Americans, guys; they are no fools!
Meanwhile, China and Xi survived another day, just like I said they would. Anybody believing ZH and "short's" Sinophobic propaganda is completely disconnected from reality. Now that Davy is posting shit here with stolen identities this side of the website will be ruined just like the news side was.
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby shortonoil » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 11:18:11

The Chinese government is the most efficient and effective in the world.


"is" - don't you mean "was". 80% of its economy is shutdown because it was so efficient it couldn't build a Bio4-Level Weapons Lab that didn't leak. My "made in China" rubber ducky has the same problem.

So, to get real here; China's economy is shut down, it population is on the verge of starvation, they are dying so fast they can't keep the bodies burned, and Western companies are looking at writing off $trillions in lost, and stranded assets.

So when exactly does the efficient, and effective start working?
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby JuanP » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 11:30:19

China goes all out to restart businesses.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1179648.shtml
Meanwhile, Sinophobic Exceptionalists continue spewing nonsense about China on PO. You should use your real name, Davy, why hide like a coward behind other identities? Be a man! ROFLMFAO!
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Re: Coronavirus is biowar to decouple US-China as prelude to

Unread postby dissident » Sat 15 Feb 2020, 12:15:13

The ham fisted bureaucratic response to the information flow around this epidemic in China cannot be excused. But the thesis that the "regime" could have done a better job of controlling this outbreak is BS. Too many people who are way too mobile. Qurantine is not working anywhere. And you have this BS from the BBC:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51488861

Oh my the "oppression" and "human rights abuse". This bitch needs to be shot on sight and she will be guilt of first degree murder if anyone dies from her spreading the disease. These are the "heroes" of the west.
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